On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think agricultural use is necessary for track.
but the wiki does (for years if not since ever). Or alternatively similar
uses (forestry, fishing).
The wiki also admits that tracks can be paved which
Pieren wrote:
Perhaps in Germany, all tracks have limited access. But they all have
traffic signs indicating the restriction(s). If the tag access is
missing, we cannot assume that the mapper forgot the restriction !
What is true in Germany can be wrong in many other countries. Excepted
if we
2013/8/26 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
A highway=track + tracktype=grade1 can be
safely used by normal cars.
technically yes, legally it depends
Perhaps in Germany, all tracks have limited access.
no, it depends on the area. In some regions it is true (AFAIK only in
Baden-Württemberg =
On 2013-08-26 14:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
tracks are a type of road set up for agricultural
(i.e. local traffic of who works in the fields or forests or goes
fishing) traffic.
How do you know that without any signs next to the road?
Maarten
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
But I think this direction of discussion misses the point. The point was how to
classify certain types of roads (unpaved connection and residential roads).
tracks are a type of road set up for agricultural (i.e. local traffic of who
works in the fields or forests or
2013/8/26 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl
On 2013-08-26 14:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
tracks are a type of road set up for agricultural
(i.e. local traffic of who works in the fields or forests or goes
fishing) traffic.
How do you know that without any signs next to the road?
the
2013/8/26 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk
This was part of the discussion on tracks and paths at the time.
AFAIK that distinction was always made by width (or width for the
access-points, e.g. if they are blocked by boulders you won't be able to go
there by car anyway)
My own reason for
On 2013-08-26 15:50, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
2013/8/26 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl
On 2013-08-26 14:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
tracks are a type of road set up for agricultural
(i.e. local traffic of who works in the fields or forests or goes
fishing) traffic.
How do you know that
Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com writes:
Track is used more and more for unpaved roads. Mapnik and other renderers
are probably a big reason, because they don't render
Surfacehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Surfaceand
Smoothness http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness tags. I
Pieren pier...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW osrm.at is helping in this campaign, because it doesn't route through
tracks
BTW I just discover that some people are tagging for routing (after
tagging for the renderer). They add
John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com writes:
So, how would you classify a one-lane road leading through a former
field, now overgrown with 30 years or so of bushes and saplings,
leading to a billboard adjoining a motorway? The only improvements the
road receives is to be mowed periodically
2013/8/25 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com
I don't think agricultural use is necessary for track.
but the wiki does (for years if not since ever). Or alternatively similar
uses (forestry, fishing).
cheers,
Martin
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On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 02:05:51AM +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
No footpaths, lights, tarmac or road markings but freely available to drive
along.
I have been to African countrys where even primarys dont have lights,
tarmac or road markings - still they are primary roads, officially
on the maps.
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+1
The absence of a style for surface=unpaved leads to a very common
misunderstanding and large amounts of roads mistagged
Ross Scanlon wrote:
informationfreeway.org/?lat=-20.374lon=148.633zoom=15layers=00F000B0
You'll have to copy and paste the link.
Actually you will have to do more than that. the domain is incorrectly set up,
so only
On 24/08/13 17:46, Lester Caine wrote:
Notice the broken casing on the sides of some of the roads.
If what you are talking about is the change in style on the roads to the
right, then how were they generated as they do not appear on the main
database? It's nice to see I can just cut and paste
Ross Scanlon wrote:
Notice the broken casing on the sides of some of the roads.
If what you are talking about is the change in style on the roads to the
right, then how were they generated as they do not appear on the main
database? It's nice to see I can just cut and paste the old style
On 24/08/13 19:39, Lester Caine wrote:
Ross Scanlon wrote:
Notice the broken casing on the sides of some of the roads.
If what you are talking about is the change in style on the roads to the
right, then how were they generated as they do not appear on the main
database? It's nice to see I can
Ross Scanlon wrote:
Notice the broken casing on the sides of some of the roads.
If what you are talking about is the change in style on the roads to the
right, then how were they generated as they do not appear on the main
database? It's nice to see I can just cut and paste the old style
Am 24.08.2013 01:42, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
Il giorno 23/ago/2013, alle ore 16:52, Pieren pier...@gmail.com ha scritto:
BTW I just discover that some people are tagging for routing (after
tagging for the renderer). They add access=yes or
motor_vehicle=yes to open the routable track in
Il giorno 24/ago/2013, alle ore 15:11, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com ha
scritto:
Sorry, but how do you get the hint that it is a track and not an
unclassified highway and you are not allowed to use it without sign ?
yes, this remains a miracle for me as well, but it seems to be the legal
So, how would you classify a one-lane road leading through a former field,
now overgrown with 30 years or so of bushes and saplings, leading to a
billboard adjoining a motorway? The only improvements the road receives is to
be mowed periodically to keep it passable, and its only use is by crews
Il giorno 24/ago/2013, alle ore 16:04, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com
ha scritto:
So, how would you classify a one-lane road leading through a former field,
now overgrown with 30 years or so of bushes and saplings, leading to a
billboard adjoining a motorway?
service
cheers,
I have been trying to have dirt roads show up in the render for about a
year now. I see that that the Map legend has unsurfaced road. I have
looked around but can not find any roads that have the Map Legends use of
unsurfaced road(Road, but with dashes). I have looked in Europe and these
Il giorno 23/ago/2013, alle ore 15:22, Darren Biggs ou98dtbi...@gmail.com ha
scritto:
I have been trying to have dirt roads show up in the render for about a year
now. I see that that the Map legend has unsurfaced road. I have looked
around but can not find any roads that have the Map
On 2013-08-23 15:22, Darren Biggs wrote:
I have been trying to have dirt roads show up in the render for about
a year now. I see that that the Map legend has unsurfaced road. I
have looked around but can not find any roads that have the Map
Legends use of unsurfaced road(Road, but with
Can someone give me a place on the Map where I can see this road shown,
which I can repeat?
Specifically the Unsurfaced road dashed lines. I see many tracks, but not
one Unsurfaced road
[image: Secondary12] Secondary road[image: Unsurfaced] Unsurfaced road[image:
Track] Track[image: Byway]
Il giorno 23/ago/2013, alle ore 15:40, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl ha
scritto:
A track with tracktype=grade1 is could even be a proper road.
-1, a track is never a proper road, otherwise it won't be a track ;-)
but a track with tracktype=grade1 will always be paved (asphalt or concrete) or
Il giorno 23/ago/2013, alle ore 15:44, Darren Biggs ou98dtbi...@gmail.com ha
scritto:
Specifically the Unsurfaced road dashed lines. I see many tracks, but not
one Unsurfaced road
any road can be unsurfaced
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
cheers,
Track is used more and more for unpaved roads. Mapnik and other renderers
are probably a big reason, because they don't render
Surfacehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Surfaceand
Smoothness http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness tags. I
really don't know of any renderers that show
+1
The absence of a style for surface=unpaved leads to a very common
misunderstanding and large amounts of roads mistagged:
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/110
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Il giorno
On 23/08/2013 16:16, Alex Barth wrote:
The absence of a style for surface=unpaved leads to a very common
misunderstanding and large amounts of roads mistagged
That is overwhelmingly the case for Africa - while there are some actual
tracks there, there is a large number of unclassified unpaved
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
BTW osrm.at is helping in this campaign, because it doesn't route through
tracks
BTW I just discover that some people are tagging for routing (after
tagging for the renderer). They add access=yes or
motor_vehicle=yes to
Darren Biggs wrote:
Can someone give me a place on the Map where I can see this road
shown, which I can repeat?
Specifically the Unsurfaced road dashed lines. I see many tracks, but
not one Unsurfaced road
Secondary12 Secondary road
Unsurfaced Unsurfaced road
Track Track
Byway
a...@mapbox.com
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ou98dtbi...@gmail.com
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*Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk] Dirt Roads in Mapnik, default render in OSM
+1
The absence of a style
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 03:40:33PM +0200, Maarten Deen wrote:
I think the general idea is that track is a dirt roads fit for
two-tracked vehicles (cars, agricultural) and path is a dirt road
fit for one-tracked vehicles (because too narrow for two-tracked).
A track is for aggricultural
Florian Lohoff wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 03:40:33PM +0200, Maarten Deen wrote:
I think the general idea is that track is a dirt roads fit for
two-tracked vehicles (cars, agricultural) and path is a dirt road
fit for one-tracked vehicles (because too narrow for two-tracked).
A track is for
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 08:01:03PM +0100, Lester Caine wrote:
Sorry, but this is the whole problem with the way things had been
reorganised. 'Dirt' trackways need to be rendered in a different way
to highway=service, and from a rendering point of view having to
search other tags to modify the
Il giorno 23/ago/2013, alle ore 21:01, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk ha
scritto:
So I will not use highway=service for trackways around here that are still
used by school buses, refuse trucks and delivery lorries.
what makes you believe it's a track and not an unpaved road if even the
Il giorno 23/ago/2013, alle ore 16:52, Pieren pier...@gmail.com ha scritto:
BTW I just discover that some people are tagging for routing (after
tagging for the renderer). They add access=yes or
motor_vehicle=yes to open the routable track in OSRM...
there is no problem with tagging correct
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Biggs ou98dtbi...@gmail.com mailto:ou98dtbi...@gmail.com
*Envoyé le :* Vendredi 23 août 2013 10h16
*Objet :* Re: [OSM-talk] Dirt Roads in Mapnik, default render in OSM
+1
The absence of a style
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
So I will not use highway=service for trackways around here that are still used
by school buses, refuse trucks and delivery lorries.
what makes you believe it's a track and not an unpaved road if even the school
bus takes that road?
No footpaths, lights, tarmac
On 08/24/2013 03:05 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
So I will not use highway=service for trackways around here that are
still used by school buses, refuse trucks and delivery lorries.
what makes you believe it's a track and not an unpaved road if even
the school bus takes
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