[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM country interviews

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Weait
Would an Australian mapper like to speak about the State of the (Australian) Map, with Ed? -- Forwarded message -- From: Ed Freyfogle e...@lokku.com Date: Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 6:40 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM country interviews To: osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org t

[Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM country interviews

2014-10-25 Thread Richard Weait
Ed would like a Canadian mapper for a State of Canada interview. Contact him directly, or ask me to introduce if you like. -- Forwarded message -- From: Ed Freyfogle e...@lokku.com Date: Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 6:40 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM country interviews To: osmf-t

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM wins Good Design Award 2014 in Japan

2014-10-05 Thread Hiroshi Miura
Hi Simon, The award is not only for Japanese community. (http://www.g-mark.org/award/describe/41828) Award description said: As Designer: OpenStreetMap Contributors Every contributors are evaluated as Designer! Congrat everyone! :-) Hiroshi On 2014年10月04日 16:58, Simon Poole wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM wins Good Design Award 2014 in Japan

2014-10-04 Thread Simon Poole
Hiroshi Congratulations to the OSMFJ and the Japanese OSM community! Simon Am 04.10.2014 04:26, schrieb Hiroshi Miura(@osmf): Dear mappers and friends, Proudly announce our achievement on prize! Thank you for mappers activities world wide! Hiroshi Miura OSMFJ The OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM wins Good Design Award 2014 in Japan

2014-10-04 Thread Pierre Béland
: Vendredi 3 octobre 2014 22h26 Objet : [OSM-talk] OSM wins Good Design Award 2014 in Japan Dear mappers and friends, Proudly announce our achievement on prize! Thank you for mappers activities world wide! Hiroshi Miura OSMFJ The OpenStreetMap receives “Good Design Award 2014

[OSM-talk] OSM wins Good Design Award 2014 in Japan

2014-10-03 Thread Hiroshi Miura(@osmf)
Dear mappers and friends, Proudly announce our achievement on prize! Thank you for mappers activities world wide! Hiroshi Miura OSMFJ The OpenStreetMap receives “Good Design Award 2014” Awarded the social impact and social design of mappers

[OSM-talk] OSM-FR funding campaign

2014-09-10 Thread Christian Quest
On monday evening we were in Paris to celebrate OSM's 10 years. Pictures can be seen here: https://owncloud.openstreetmap.fr/public.php?service=galleryt=a9fc22e3f06694dd5ba3328f2250be07 We gathered more than 100 people grabbing a piece of more than 10 mostly DIY cakes. We also launched our

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM completeness

2014-09-04 Thread Alan McConchie
You should also check out a few academic research groups that have done studies on completeness in OSM: * Muki Haklay and his collaborators at University College London * Peter Mooney and Padraig Corcoran at National University of Ireland * Pascal Neis and Alexander Zipf at Heidelberg

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM completeness

2014-09-03 Thread Imre Samu
completeness of the road datasets in OSM. if you are interested the Street(=road) name comparision - check this local projects: #OSM Housenumber Evaluation ( with street names ) : https://www.sotm-eu.org/slides/58.pdf ( video: https://www.sotm-eu.org/en/slots/50 )

[OSM-talk] OSM completeness

2014-09-02 Thread Eleanor Stokes
Hi list, Not sure if this is the right place to post--but I just got into using OSM and am hoping to utilize it for some of my research. I need to get some kind of completeness metric for each of the cities I am looking at (about 200 of them). Does anyone happen to know of completeness

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM completeness

2014-09-02 Thread Stephan Knauss
Eleanor Stokes writes: Does anyone happen to know of completeness analyses across cities in different regions that have been performed? I'm particularly interested in the completeness of the road datasets in OSM. there was a talk at SotM-EU 2011: http://2011.sotm-eu.org/t...@3.html Fraunhofer

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM completeness

2014-09-02 Thread Mike Thompson
you could use my website http://compare.osm-tools.org/ Nicely done site. I just took a look at my area, most of the red pixels are due to simple differences in classification. In other words, OSM does have the street, but classifies it differently than Google. On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:07 AM,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM completeness

2014-09-02 Thread Paweł Paprota
I developed a tool some time ago to analyze many aspects of the road network. See the output here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMonitor/Poland_Major_Roads Unfortunately I don't have time to work on it anymore so it was launched only for Poland, Serbia and Czech Republic. It would be

[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM goes (almost) in the 4ht dimension

2014-08-30 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Date: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 1:34 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM goes (almost) in the 4ht dimension To: OpenStreetMap t...@openstreetmap.org For the impatient having red/cyan 3D glasses, first stop is : http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/~cquest/leaflet/4d.html otherwise: https://cquest.hackpad.com

[OSM-talk] OSM goes (almost) in the 4ht dimension

2014-08-28 Thread Christian Quest
For the impatient having red/cyan 3D glasses, first stop is : http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/~cquest/leaflet/4d.html otherwise: https://cquest.hackpad.com/OpenStreetMap-goes-in-the-4th-dimension--ju3XWhj2qAV Have fun ! (OSM's second law) -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM goes (almost) in the 4ht dimension

2014-08-28 Thread Cristian Consonni
2014-08-28 19:34 GMT+02:00 Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr: For the impatient having red/cyan 3D glasses, first stop is : http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/~cquest/leaflet/4d.html otherwise: https://cquest.hackpad.com/OpenStreetMap-goes-in-the-4th-dimension--ju3XWhj2qAV You, sir, are a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Saudi Arabia?

2014-08-16 Thread Osama Khalid
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 11:53:02AM -0700, Clifford Snow wrote: You might want to consult http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc by Pascal Neis to identify mappers. It's funny that only one single person has located themselves on the map! Is there anyway to show the history in reverse? The

[OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Severin Menard
Hi, Maybe this topic has been already raised, sorry if so. When editing the OSM wiki and adding links, there is a -are-you-really-a-human-being check (what makes completely sense) through Captcha. My concern is that currently Captcha requests to put a number from a picture that is actually a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
The last discussions about this that I can remember (and find with a quick search) were OSM-talk threads: - Hate captchas starting March 14, https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069320.html and the follow-up to it - ReMAPTCHA Demo BETA 0.2 online! (Was: Hate captchas)

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Peter Barth
Hi, Severin Menard schrieb: Maybe this topic has been already raised, sorry if so. it has, but still a good thing you raised this again as I'd also like something to change here. And the result, if I am not wrong, just feeds Google address database. Yes. And that's why Stefan Keller (or

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Stefan Keller
Hi Severin, hello all Yes, ReMAPTCHA is still running as prototypes in two versions here: http://remaptcha.herokuapp.com/ and here: http://remaptcha2.herokuapp.com/ On one hand I'm not sure how high its acceptance is and on the other hand it's challenging to implement a reliable system having

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Stefan Keller
...perhaps we're getting a step further at State of the Map nov. 2014 in Buenos Aires? --Stefan 2014-08-16 20:30 GMT+02:00 Stefan Keller sfkel...@gmail.com: Hi Severin, hello all Yes, ReMAPTCHA is still running as prototypes in two versions here: http://remaptcha.herokuapp.com/ and here:

[OSM-talk] OSM in Saudi Arabia?

2014-08-15 Thread Osama Khalid
Hello Open Street Mappers, I noticed that the maps on Saudi Arabia are fairly accurate and more rich than I thought, but I couldn't find a mailing list for contributors from Saudi Arabia and the self-identified users from Saudi Arabia seem to be inactive. 1. Does anyone know of OSM contributors

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Saudi Arabia?

2014-08-15 Thread Clifford Snow
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Osama Khalid osa...@gnu.org wrote: I noticed that the maps on Saudi Arabia are fairly accurate and more rich than I thought, but I couldn't find a mailing list for contributors from Saudi Arabia and the self-identified users from Saudi Arabia seem to be

[OSM-talk] OSM 10th Anniversary - Map for humanitarian emergencies

2014-08-09 Thread Pierre Béland
Mapping for Emergencies like Ebola for international emergencies gives a lot of media coverage to OpenStreetMap. For this 10th anniversary, let show our capacity to escalate for the ungoing humanitarian disasters. Following the declaration friday 8 by the World Health Organization (WHO) that

[OSM-talk] OSM 10th Anniversary Birthday party World Map

2014-08-07 Thread Kinya Inoue
Hi all, User:matoken made the OSM 10th Anniversary Birthday party World Map. http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/ja/map/openstreetmap-10th-anniversary-birthday-party_14139#2/28.1/13.4 Congratulations 10th Birthday OSM. Thank you for OSM. Let's go to the OSM Birthday Party!

[OSM-talk] OSM risk assessment models

2014-08-05 Thread Douglas Musaazi
Hi, If some one from the list can spare some time, it will be appreciated to send/point me to some examples of risk assessment models developed basing on OSM data/tools or even QGIS software. Risk assessment basing on any thematic area/topic Thanks.   Yours Truly Douglas Ssebaggala Musaazi

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM risk assessment models

2014-08-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 08/05/2014 04:35 PM, Douglas Musaazi wrote: If some one from the list can spare some time, it will be appreciated to send/point me to some examples of risk assessment models developed basing on OSM data/tools or even QGIS software. http://sotm-eu.org/en/slots/17 might be of interest,

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 23 July 2014 02:51, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: v2.17.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released, though not yet deployed on tile.osm.org. I would like to thank everyone for all comments, which are really helpful. Because there are so many comments about different

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 July 2014 05:17, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: I hope craft=* and office=* will follow. Would probably encourage more people to map them and report missing/wrong POIs. We are working on it, but there are still some issues to resolve. See

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-23 Thread Alex Barth
Amazing work! On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:46 AM, François Lacombe francois.laco...@telecom-bretagne.eu wrote: +1. Really great job, thank you guys :) *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2014-07-23 11:38 GMT+02:00 Janko

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Moving to stricter multipolygon parsing

2014-06-13 Thread JB
(not sure this is really a good idea, leaving dev decide on their side... This is how you sometimes end with something users won't want to use... JB.) Le 13/06/2014 16:26, Yves a écrit : Thing is, it may be easier to find a consensus in -dev than elsewhere. So a fixing list would be a good

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Moving to stricter multipolygon parsing

2014-06-13 Thread John Packer
Context for this discussion can be seen here: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2014-June/027910.html 2014-06-13 11:51 GMT-03:00 JB jb...@mailoo.org: (not sure this is really a good idea, leaving dev decide on their side… This is how you sometimes end with something users won't

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Moving to stricter multipolygon parsing

2014-06-13 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 13/06/2014, JB jb...@mailoo.org wrote: (not sure this is really a good idea, leaving dev decide on their side... This is how you sometimes end with something users won't want to use... JB.) I'd say the current stats are a good indication that new-style MP have been adopted and old-style

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/02/2014 07:38 AM, Kathleen Danielson wrote: Simply starting a new thread here to discuss implementing a Code of Conduct in our community I think we should extend this a bit, and instead of having a Code of Conduct we shold have a document that says How to be a good mapper. This would

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct (was 'Data Working Group (DWG) and Imports')

2014-06-02 Thread Kathleen Danielson
(Needless to say, others who have thoughts on this should feel free to chime in-- no need to wait for me, of course!) On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com wrote: Simply starting a new thread here to discuss implementing a Code of Conduct in our

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Hi Frederik, I think that we can do both, albeit separately. I agree that our CoC can be similar to other organization's, but I want to be sure that our CoC doesn't get diluted or overlooked in the process, so I definitely don't think they should be the same thing. As strange as it sounds, even

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06/02/2014 04:38 PM, Kathleen Danielson wrote: Would you object to us pursuing these goals separately? Not at all - it's just that I believe that if you e.g. want to find examples of resepctful or unrespectful behaviour in OSM you will probably find an example that involves editing or

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Clifford Snow
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I think we should extend this a bit, and instead of having a Code of Conduct we shold have a document that says How to be a good mapper. This would include the standard elements of a code of conduct - e.g. about

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct

2014-06-02 Thread Clifford Snow
OpenStreetMap Code of Conduct === I'd like to keep this effort going. Who out there is interested in helping taking the draft CoC through to acceptance? Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

[OSM-talk] OSM Code of Conduct (was 'Data Working Group (DWG) and Imports')

2014-06-01 Thread Kathleen Danielson
Simply starting a new thread here to discuss implementing a Code of Conduct in our community, as suggested by Clifford (and many others before him). I haven't got time at the moment to share my full thoughts, but I wanted to create a separate place to discuss this specific proposal. I'll chime in

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-24 Thread Christian Quest
I'm happy to announce that we have finished our first building phase of the BANO (Base d'Adresses Nationale Ouverte) the first french adresses dataset available under an open license (ODbL). It contains data from: - OSM - available opendata datasets - automatically collected cadastre data The

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-24 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Christian, The BANO data is licensed under ODbl, but the database does not conform to the Contributor terms, right? That's why importing or adding it to OSM is not possible IMHO. Adding it to (the osm installation of) nominatim on the other hand is a bad idea, I think: IMHO

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/24/2014 11:57 AM, Christian Quest wrote: It would be really great if this dataset could be added to Nominatim to extend its geocoding capabilities in France where we only have around 2M addresses currently. I think that Nominatim already has a built-in process where you can take

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-24 Thread Simon Poole
Peter We just had this discussion, and as was pointed out during it, it -is- possible to import ODbL licensed data (assuming that all the other boxes wrt imports have been ticked) from a legal point of view with respect to the CTs. This does not imply that it is desirable or not in a more

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-24 Thread Christian Quest
2014-05-24 12:58 GMT+02:00 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Hi Christian, The BANO data is licensed under ODbl, but the database does not conform to the Contributor terms, right? That's why importing or adding it to OSM is not possible IMHO. BANO is not designed to be used as an

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-24 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Christian, (shortening the last message to comment on some parts only) Am 24.05.2014 16:04, schrieb Christian Quest: BANO is not designed to be used as an import source for OSM. It uses sources (opendata, cadastre) that can be imported in OSM. These sources have been used over the past

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Pieren
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: We are not going to comply with hypothetical licenses that may or may not appear in the future. +1 We already get feedbacks from contributors refusing to change the share-alike condition. And I cannot imagine that OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Wendorff
I agree that it's unlikely to drop the share-alike clause in future. But nevertheless there may be another license, and this has to be possible even for imports. In fact, third data sources must agree to be published under ODBL (as that's the current license) and the owner has in fact to agree

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Simon Poole
Somehow I suspect that the proponents of screw the future (aka lets tie the hands of every future OSM contributor) simply don't have enough imagination. For me it is a distinct possibility that in 10 years from now Nokia/here and Tomtom will be long gone, and only google and OSM will still be

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 16/05/2014 11:03, Simon Poole wrote: Somehow I suspect that the proponents of screw the future (aka lets tie the hands of every future OSM contributor) simply don't have enough imagination. [..] That is one way to look at it. Others might rather see it as preventing our community assets

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-16 11:42 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: As it stands now, there is nothing that prevents anyone from contributing ODbL-licensed data into an ODbL-licensed database. I agree with Peter here, there is something that can make you think twice about importing ODbL licensed

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Barth
Hi, Jean-Marc Liotier schrieb: But this horse has been beaten to death already - GPL vs. BSD redux all over again... You are making it a question of licences, too. If you insist to compare it to software, you'd have to compare it with the Contributor License Agreement (CLA¹) as required by

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Simon Poole
It is likely that the LWG will be providing a clarification on the matter at hand soon (Paul has been doing some work on this over the last couple of weeks). It should be further noted that any ODbL licensed data that somebody wants included in OSM would have to go through the same process as

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 16/05/2014 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-05-16 11:42 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org mailto:j...@liotier.org: As it stands now, there is nothing that prevents anyone from contributing ODbL-licensed data into an ODbL-licensed database. I agree with Peter

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 16/05/2014 12:32, Peter Barth wrote: And not only that: As noted earlier, you're importing data that will not be mapped in a clean manner again, as the data is allready there due to the dubious import. Could you please elaborate a bit about why you think that the data produced by the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-16 12:44 GMT+02:00 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: While of course the contributor terms are governed by English law, I would like to cite Article 2 of the French Code Civil: Legislation provides only for the future; it has no retrospective operation. It was written since 1803 and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Peter Barth
Jean-Marc Liotier schrieb: Could you please elaborate a bit about why you think that the data produced by the project will not be mapped in a clean manner ? My assumption is, that for data mapped by me could be relicenced with the 2/3 majority even if I'm allready dead. This assumption would

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 16 May 2014 12:03, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: So basically you can only import data that is compatible with ODbL and/or cc-by-sa 2.0 and which can later be relicensed. According to the CTs it would seem as if you could also contribute cc-by-sa 2.0-only data, which is

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 16/05/2014 13:02, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: the option to change the license into some other free and open license is current, it is not in the future Yes indeed - agreement with the eventuality of a re-licensing process is what section 3. of the Contributor Terms amounts to. But

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 16/05/2014 13:24, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: The Contributor Terms especially does not require agreement with the terms of one or more of the following licences: ODbL 1.0 for the database and DbCL 1.0 for the individual contents of the database; CC-BY-SA 2.0; or such other free and open

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Pieren
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 1:21 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: That's not true and it has been clarified by the LWG even before the license change process ended. You comply with the CTs if the data you upload is compatible with the current license (ODbL) and otherwise you

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-16 Thread Michael Collinson
On 16/05/2014 12:36, Simon Poole wrote: It is likely that the LWG will be providing a clarification on the matter at hand soon (Paul has been doing some work on this over the last couple of weeks). We are now putting the finishing touches to that and I hope that I'll be able to release it

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 14.05.2014 11:16, Christian Quest wrote: The resulting dataset will be under ODbL (because of OSM data and also many opendata sets are also under ODbL). [...] The resulting dataset will not be imported as is in OSM as the french community considers it needs to be manually reviewed. The

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread JB
This is not done, and I certainly hope that the « community » does not take it for granted before a hypothetical future vote. And that if an actual vote takes place, a real debate also takes place, with real counter-arguments replied to the already heard arguments. JB. Le 15/05/2014 15:11,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 15.05.2014 15:41, JB wrote: This is not done, and I certainly hope that the « community » does not take it for granted before a hypothetical future vote. And that if an actual vote takes place, a real debate also takes place, with real counter-arguments replied to the already heard

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de À : talk@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 15 mai 2014 17h51 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France The relicensing clause is there for a reason: The community in 10 years will mostly consist of completely

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-05-15 18:46 GMT+02:00 THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr: You consider that we should completely stop to use any open data sources available in the world because in the future the community will perhaps decide a relicencing that could be incompatible with licences of today legal

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Tobias Knerr
Hi Julien, On 15.05.2014 18:46, THEVENON Julien wrote: [...] By this way the amount of data loss will be an argument pro or against a new licence in the same way some data were loss during the migration from CC-by_S to ODBL due to impossible relicencing the relevant part of the CT was

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de Hi Julien, the relevant part of the CT was introduced so that OSM would not have to suffer such a painful loss again. Ideally, it should be possible to decide on a license change purely based on the merits of the proposed new license. Hi Tobias In

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Christian Quest
2014-05-15 15:11 GMT+02:00 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: On 14.05.2014 11:16, Christian Quest wrote: The resulting dataset will be under ODbL (because of OSM data and also many opendata sets are also under ODbL). [...] The resulting dataset will not be imported as is in OSM as the

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Share alike licensed data should IMHO not be imported into osm because it makes another license change practically impossible (at least not without data loss, and unfortunately not only the originally imported data but also everything built

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Christian Quest
If share-alike is a problem for you, stop contributing to OSM, start you own non share-alike project, it's that simple. Good luck 2014-05-15 20:08 GMT+02:00 THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr: * De :* Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com * * Share alike licensed data should

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Simon Poole
Am 15.05.2014 19:57, schrieb THEVENON Julien: If I remember well Australian government didn`t agree to mirgate the data they provided from CC-by-SA to ODBL so this is not so simple That is completely incorrect, there was never any Australian government CC by-SA data in OSM. The data in

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 15/05/2014 18:57, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : Share alike licensed data should IMHO not be imported into osm because it makes another license change practically impossible (at least not without data loss, and unfortunately not only the originally imported data but also everything built

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Simon Poole si...@poole.ch That is completely incorrect, there was never any Australian government CC by-SA data in OSM. The data in question was licensed CC by which required permission from the respective offices that attribution via our website was acceptable, the permission was

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Peter Barth
Hi, THEVENON Julien wrote: To be completely sure to understand you point of view, I will try to rephrase it, please correct me if I`m wrong: You consider that we should completely stop to use any open data sources available in the world because in the future the community will perhaps

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 15.05.2014 19:57, THEVENON Julien wrote: According to CT terms ( cf below ) I assume that a new licence should maintain the share-alike of ODBL I believe you are misunderstanding that paragraph of the CT. The license needs to be free and open, but there are many licenses that qualify -

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-15 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 05/16/2014 02:19 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote: or such other free and open licence (for example, http://www.opendefinition.org/okd/) as may from time to time be chosen by a vote of the OSMF membership and approved by at least a 2/3 majority vote of active contributors. ) This is the relevant

[OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-14 Thread Christian Quest
OSM-FR has initiated a project to create an open database of addresses in France. Data sources will be OSM + available opendata + address data collected from the cadastre. The resulting dataset will be under ODbL (because of OSM data and also many opendata sets are also under ODbL). In the past

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-14 Thread Simone Cortesi
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote: OSM-FR has initiated a project to create an open database of addresses in France. Data sources will be OSM + available opendata + address data collected from the cadastre. The resulting dataset will be under

[Talk-it] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France

2014-05-14 Thread Simone Cortesi
anche in Francia...openaddress. -- Forwarded message -- From: Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr Date: Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:16 AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM France BANO project... openaddresses in France To: OpenStreetMap t...@openstreetmap.org OSM-FR has initiated

[OSM-talk] OSM Poland POI contest

2014-05-01 Thread nomycna Gazeta.pl
I am happy to announce that OpenStreetMap Poland (Polish organization promoting OSM) is organizing contest about enriching OSM data with POI information. Each OpenStreetMap user over age of 13 can take part in it. To win the contest, one has to be a person who adds the most of items with one of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 15.04.2014 14:42, Steve Doerr wrote: I couldn't see a Comments section on the blog, so I'll ask the question here. Some of my edits locally are being reported as 'unknown interpolation type' because of my use of addr:interpolation = alphabetic. Is that wrong? I don't consider it wrong

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-15 Thread Steve Doerr
Thanks, Frederik. Very useful. I couldn't see a Comments section on the blog, so I'll ask the question here. Some of my edits locally are being reported as 'unknown interpolation type' because of my use of addr:interpolation = alphabetic. Is that wrong? Steve On 11/04/2014 21:38, Frederik

Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
-- Forwarded message -- From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, the OSMI addresses view is now available world-wide (it just

[OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, the OSMI addresses view is now available world-wide (it just had Europe before). The code that runs the analyses behind it is based on the new Osmium library and is available on Github. The new view is available now on OSMI (http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi). This blog entry has more

[Talk-ca] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-11 Thread Richard Weait
Address inspector tool now spans the globe! See Frederik's announcement -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-11 Thread Richard Weait
Address inspector tool now spans the globe! See Frederik's announcement -- Forwarded message -- From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view

2014-04-11 Thread Martijn van Exel
-- Forwarded message -- From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date: Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:38 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM Inspector has world-wide address view To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, the OSMI addresses view is now available world-wide (it just

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Semantic Plugin - A new JOSM's plugin to enhance contributor experience

2014-04-04 Thread Arnaud Vandecasteele
Dear OSM contributors, A friendly reminder about this new JOSM plugin called OSM Semantic [1]. If you didn't test it yet, it would be nice for me to hear your feedbacks [2]. The plugin aims to both provide a better user experience and enhance the quality of OSM data by helping users discover

[OSM-talk] OSM and Arduino day

2014-03-28 Thread Attila Asztalos
Sorry if this has been mentioned, couldn't find anything with a brief search - apparently the Arduino Day site (it's their 10 year anniversary on the 29th) uses OSM as its activity map (http://day.arduino.cc/). I think that's way cool... :) ___ talk

[OSM-talk] OSM Semantic Plugin - A new JOSM's plugin to enhance contributor experience

2014-03-26 Thread Arnaud Vandecasteele
Dear OSM contributors, We need your help! I would like to inform you of the availability of a new JOSM plugin called OSMantic” that automatically suggests tags during the editing process [1]. The plugin aims to both provide a better user experience and enhance the quality of OSM data by

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation

2014-02-23 Thread Kate Chapman
: - To: osm talk@openstreetmap.org From: Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com Date: 21/02/2014 08:00AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation Hi All, I'm giving a talk this weekend at the Jakarta Python meet-up. I was wondering if anyone has a good Intro to OSM for Developers talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation

2014-02-21 Thread Tom Hukins
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 02:53:24PM +0700, Kate Chapman wrote: I'm giving a talk this weekend at the Jakarta Python meet-up. I was wondering if anyone has a good Intro to OSM for Developers talk. Hi, Kate. I gave a 20 minute OpenStreetMap for Perl Developers talk recently. I didn't have time to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation

2014-02-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Date: 21/02/2014 08:00AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation Hi All, I'm giving a talk this weekend at the Jakarta Python meet-up. I was wondering if anyone has a good Intro to OSM for Developers talk. I'm putting one together myself, but I'm looking to see what things others cover

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation

2014-02-21 Thread Graham Jones
Date: 21/02/2014 08:00AM Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation Hi All, I'm giving a talk this weekend at the Jakarta Python meet-up. I was wondering if anyone has a good Intro to OSM for Developers talk. I'm putting one together myself, but I'm looking to see what things others

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-NI] [HOT] Resume the Night of the living maps

2014-02-04 Thread Eduardo Mayorga Téllez
On 2014-01-30 18:03, Pierre Béland wrote: I also think that this is a fantastic proposition. What do you think if we would try to cover various parts of the world that are neglected in OSM. We could prepare a serie of Tasks in the Task Manager and invite people to contribute to these in this 24

[OSM-talk] OSM in NewScientist

2013-12-26 Thread christian.pietz...@googlemail.com
OSM made it into the NewScientists 2013 review: A year in technologyhttp://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24776-2013-review-the-year-in-technology.html#.Ury7uLRFUhF (citizen mappers fill gaps in maps http://Citizen cartographers fill the gaps in maps) I think I already posted the article when it

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] NOTICE: Upcoming Maintenance / Downtime

2013-12-11 Thread colliar
On 25.11.2013 16:36, Florian Lohoff wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:23:43AM -0500, Richard Weait wrote: Grant, thanks always to you and to the full admin team, for making OpenStreetMap work and work well. I appreciate your constant attention to the nitty bits and the gritty bits of

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