> > Just a further heads up that this user appears to have posted to SABRE
> asking for a way to edit OSM privately. Any suggestions I should pass on
> to him? It should keep him from vandalising live data if it was possible.
>
Just a bit of a heads up really.
I've just spotted some random changin
> Is there any simple way (i.e. not involving setting up your own Mapnik
> server) to test Mapnik rendering locally, without polluting OSM, and
> perhaps more importantly, without waiting an hour or more to see your
> update.
I'm working on a Virtual-Box image with a complete set up rendering
Jennifer Campbell wrote:
> Just a further heads up that this user appears to have posted to SABRE
> asking for a way to edit OSM privately. Any suggestions I should pass on
> to him? It should keep him from vandalising live data if it was possible.
>
> http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/forum/viewtop
2009/10/5 Dermot McNally :
> 2009/10/4 John Smith :
>
>> If it is a genuine concern about being abused for making mistakes the
>> people abusing people should be dealt with there is no reason for it,
>
> I'm not sure if you followed the original incident. This was not a
I was commenting indirectly
2009/10/5 Anthony :
> Is there any simple way (i.e. not involving setting up your own Mapnik
> server) to test Mapnik rendering locally, without polluting OSM, and perhaps
> more importantly, without waiting an hour or more to see your update.
I thought the dev system was setup to do this, but it
2009/10/4 John Smith :
> If it is a genuine concern about being abused for making mistakes the
> people abusing people should be dealt with there is no reason for it,
I'm not sure if you followed the original incident. This was not a
case of an inexperienced mapper making some mistakes while tryi
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Thomas Wood wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 01:15 +1000, John Smith wrote:
> > For people with good reason to be making dummy edits the dev system
> > can do this and will also render pretty maps too.
> >
> > http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/
>
> Half correct. It'
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 01:15 +1000, John Smith wrote:
> For people with good reason to be making dummy edits the dev system
> can do this and will also render pretty maps too.
>
> http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/
Half correct. It's not yet set up for rendering.
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2009/10/5 Jennifer Campbell :
> Just a further heads up that this user appears to have posted to SABRE
> asking for a way to edit OSM privately. Any suggestions I should pass on
> to him? It should keep him from vandalising live data if it was possible.
>
> http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/forum/viewt
Just a further heads up that this user appears to have posted to SABRE
asking for a way to edit OSM privately. Any suggestions I should pass on
to him? It should keep him from vandalising live data if it was possible.
http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=23677
Jeni
http://blo
Rob wrote:
> Was just looking at the stats report and happened to notice this account
> is editing again after a 15 day quite period.
> Not checked the regions or validity at all yet but given the past
> history I though I would give a heads up.
Thanks for that - it's been mentioned on Talk-GB (
Thomas Wood wrote:
> Hi list,
> Attention was drawn to the OSM user RR8 last night on IRC. It appears
> that they have been producing /apparently/ deconstructive edits at a
> high frequency since late Saturday evening (server time).
> Edits primarily are the reclassification of highways to a differ
2009/9/2 Richard Fairhurst :
> The "you" in "you have to be prepared to assess" is not Tom, it's OSMF. OSMF
> is the nearest to a community-appointed arbiter that we have. In particular,
> it's OSMF's Data Working Group:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group
Richard - yes, th
Dermot McNally wrote:
> FFS Tom, you can't have it both ways. I understand and respect
> that you don't want the final decision resting, by default, with you
> as the man with the stick. This being so, you have to be prepared
> to assess the claims of individual mappers on their merits, having
On 02/09/09 19:55, Dermot McNally wrote:
> 2009/9/2 Tom Hughes:
>
>> Yes, but who appointed him as the arbiter? Whoever is making the
>> decision needs to be selected by and accountable to the community in
>> some way, not self-appointed.
>
> FFS Tom, you can't have it both ways. I understand and r
2009/9/2 Tom Hughes :
> Yes, but who appointed him as the arbiter? Whoever is making the
> decision needs to be selected by and accountable to the community in
> some way, not self-appointed.
FFS Tom, you can't have it both ways. I understand and respect that
you don't want the final decision res
> Well that's the problem - the best thing we have at the moment is the
> foundation and it's working groups. In this case the Data Working Group
> is the appropriate one I guess.
I think a crowdsourced approach against vandalism would scale better
than dedicated working-groups. See my Brainstor
On 02/09/09 18:51, Peter Körner wrote:
> Tom Hughes schrieb:
>> On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
>>
>>> I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
>>> if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
>>> like the worst form of vandalism.
>>
>> As an admi
Tom Hughes schrieb:
> On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
>
>> I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
>> if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
>> like the worst form of vandalism.
>
> As an admin with the technical ability to do these thing
Jennifer Campbell wrote:
> Tom Hughes wrote:
>> On 01/09/09 16:23, Lester Caine wrote:
>>
>>> Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>>>
>>> Which would suggest that the changeset for this needs reversing,
>>> although http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=A816 does
>>> hint at the fact that
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Andy Allan wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pieren wrote:
>
> > And yes, I'm expecting fast reactions from the admins
>
> You're a gold-level member of the OSMF, right? Y'know, the level that
> means your annual membership fee is the same cost as a full t
Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 01/09/09 16:23, Lester Caine wrote:
>
>> Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>>
>> Which would suggest that the changeset for this needs reversing,
>> although http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=A816 does
>> hint at the fact that it has been 'de-truncked' and tha
From: "Frederik Ramm"
>
> Pieren wrote:
>> I say that because I spent a little bit time to look the edits of this
>> person, working intensively in different countries with a lot of short
>> edits and after one day of the first alarms about this user.
>
> But do you even have anyhing to prove that
2009/9/2 Frederik Ramm :
> But do you even have anyhing to prove that this is vandalism? Just
> because a new account makes lots of edits in different places doesn't
> mean anything... there might be a pre-existing group of people on some
> mailing list and one of them says "hey, check out OSM, I'
2009/9/2 Andy Allan :
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Dermot McNally wrote:
>
>> But what we are dealing with here is a proven vandal who won't engage
>> with community members.
>>
>> Action required.
>
> Yes. By you.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism#Vandalism_response
>
> Doesn'
Hi,
Pieren wrote:
> I say that because I spent a little bit time to look the edits of this
> person, working intensively in different countries with a lot of short
> edits and after one day of the first alarms about this user.
But do you even have anyhing to prove that this is vandalism? Just
be
On 01/09/2009 23:40, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
>
>> I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
>> if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
>> like the worst form of vandalism.
>
> As an admin with the technical abilit
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Dermot McNally wrote:
> But what we are dealing with here is a proven vandal who won't engage
> with community members.
>
> Action required.
Yes. By you.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism#Vandalism_response
Doesn't mention demanding "action" on the ma
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pieren wrote:
> And yes, I'm expecting fast reactions from the admins
You're a gold-level member of the OSMF, right? Y'know, the level that
means your annual membership fee is the same cost as a full time admin
to do your beck and call, right?
Didn't think so.
>
2009/9/2 Frederik Ramm :
> Pieren wrote:
>> I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
>> if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
>> like the worst form of vandalism.
>
> Comments like that are not helpful at all. If that's really your
> attitud
On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
> I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
> if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
> like the worst form of vandalism.
As an admin with the technical ability to do these things I'm perfectly
capable of rea
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Pieren wrote:
>>
>> I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
>> if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
>> like the worst form of vandalism.
>
> Comments like that are not helpful
Hi,
Pieren wrote:
> I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
> if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
> like the worst form of vandalism.
Comments like that are not helpful at all. If that's really your
attitude then find yourself a tightl
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Larry O'Neill wrote:
> What Dermot is saying with regard to the edits this user made in
> Ireland is correct.
> This users editing was careless, ignorant, and whimsical. I have yet
> to decide if it was malicious.
> I think It may be a good idea to contact contribut
What Dermot is saying with regard to the edits this user made in
Ireland is correct.
This users editing was careless, ignorant, and whimsical. I have yet
to decide if it was malicious.
I think It may be a good idea to contact contributors in Iceland
(where he has done more editing than elsewhere) t
2009/9/1 Lester Caine :
> I was going to say - seconded but I think that some of the changes just
> need cross referencing.
I can't speak for his edits elsewhere (though some seem to have been
at best incautious), but every _single_ change he made in Ireland (and
there were many) was:
a) wrong
b
Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 01/09/09 16:23, Lester Caine wrote:
>> Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>>> Tom Hughes wrote:
Unless something has changed in the last few years them at least
some parts of the A816 are trunk (in the OSM sense of being
primary A roads with green signs).
>>>
>>> Indeed:
On 01/09/09 16:23, Lester Caine wrote:
> Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>> Tom Hughes wrote:
>>> Unless something has changed in the last few years them at least
>>> some parts of the A816 are trunk (in the OSM sense of being
>>> primary A roads with green signs).
>>
>> Indeed:
>> http://www.geograph.org
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Tom Hughes wrote:
>> Unless something has changed in the last few years them at least
>> some parts of the A816 are trunk (in the OSM sense of being
>> primary A roads with green signs).
>
> Indeed:
> http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/916074
> http://www.geograph.org.uk
Tom Hughes wrote:
> Unless something has changed in the last few years them at least
> some parts of the A816 are trunk (in the OSM sense of being
> primary A roads with green signs).
Indeed:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/916074
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/144953
cheers
Richard
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Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 01/09/09 09:16, Lester Caine wrote:
>
>> 2326103 declassifies the A816 from a trunk route to a primary route
>> which CURRENTLY is probably correct ... except ->
>> I think that it would be useful to designate
>> http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk as a cross reference for the tru
On 01/09/09 10:13, Lester Caine wrote:
> Tom Hughes wrote:
>> On 01/09/09 09:16, Lester Caine wrote:
>>
>>> 2326103 declassifies the A816 from a trunk route to a primary route
>>> which CURRENTLY is probably correct ... except ->
>>> I think that it would be useful to designate
>>> http://www.sabre
On 01/09/09 09:16, Lester Caine wrote:
> 2326103 declassifies the A816 from a trunk route to a primary route
> which CURRENTLY is probably correct ... except ->
> I think that it would be useful to designate
> http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk as a cross reference for the trunk and
> primary designati
Clifford Nolan wrote:
> Please stop this person from doing any more damage. RR8 is still
> editing as I write - can the account be suspended a.s.a.p., please?
I was going to say - seconded but I think that some of the changes just
need cross referencing.
2326103 declassifies the A816 from a trun
Please stop this person from doing any more damage. RR8 is still editing as
I write - can the account be suspended a.s.a.p., please?
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Cliff.
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To add to this, this user is failing to reply to messages and
continuing to edit (currently in Iceland). I can't speak for the
usefulness of his edits there, but he certainly seems prolific.
Right now I'm torn between my desire to fix the core of the Irish road
network and my fear that he'll break
Hi list,
Attention was drawn to the OSM user RR8 last night on IRC. It appears
that they have been producing /apparently/ deconstructive edits at a
high frequency since late Saturday evening (server time).
Edits primarily are the reclassification of highways to a different
level. This has occured f
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