Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Devon Fyson]

I like the idea of putting it in a software specific version control system
but we need to preserve all the tools used to help curate the database
along with the database. I don't like the idea of relying on 3rd party
hosts with user accounts. We then we have to trust that both the users and
hosts will keep it available in perpetuity. If hosted on a service like
GitHub, unless someone else backs up that repository, that code could
disappear out of error, malicious intent, change of mind on open source,
etc. I also think keeping code available after becoming obsolete is
important in the event that some contribution it made needs to be examined.

However on the other hand GitHub is very popular and there would likely be
poor buy-in if contributors were asked to use a different system. Therefore
I propose that a new template be made on the wiki which is specifically for
referring tools in any repository used on the OSM database. Those
repositories would then be automatically and periodically cloned (backed
up) to say git.openstreetmaps.org.


On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Kathleen Lu  wrote:

> If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like
> overkill, but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts.
> It's free and there is a setting to generate a license file.
>
> The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You
> could explicitly state another license next to the code (copy and paste the
> license text onto the wiki page). MIT is compatible but I do not think GPL
> is. I think Apache is probably compatible but seems like overkill for
> scripts (it includes a patent license).
>
> (disclaimer: not legal advice, just my 2 cents)
>
> Best,
> Kathleen
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:15 PM SwiftFast  wrote:
>
>> I have a bot[1]. I'd like to publish its scripts. A versioning  system
>> like GIT would be overkill, because the scripts are short and rarely
>> changing.
>>
>> I'm not a lawyer, and I have some questions:
>>
>> 1. Suppose I don't state any license, would that implicitly the same
>> license of the wiki itself?[2]
>>
>> 2. Can I explicitly state a license such as MIT/Apache/GPL? Would any
>> of those licenses conflict with the license of the Wiki itself?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SwiftFast#SwiftFast_bot
>> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_content_license
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Daniel Koć]

W dniu 20.09.2017 o 03:09, Devon Fyson pisze:
However on the other hand GitHub is very popular and there would 
likely be poor buy-in if contributors were asked to use a different 
system. Therefore I propose that a new template be made on the wiki 
which is specifically for referring tools in any repository used on 
the OSM database. Those repositories would then be automatically and 
periodically cloned (backed up) to say git.openstreetmaps.org 
.


I would prefer the other way around - to set for example a GitLab 
instance on git.openstreetmaps.org  
(probably with standard OSM login) and mirror it wherever, including 
GitHub. No matter how popular, things can always change, creating a mess 
(like MapQuest Open).


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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 09/19/2017 10:03 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:
> I would like to auto-add all the
> corresponding wikidata based on wikipedia, for all remaining objects,
> using  JOSM's "Fetch Wikidata IDs".

If the Wikidata ID can be fetched automatically based on the Wikipedia
tag, can we delete the Wikipedia tags from everything that has Wikidata
afterwards because it is redundant?

> This way, we will be able to quickly find all the objects that are
> problematic with the Wikidata+OSM service.

Adding problematic data to OSM in order to have it fixed is never a good
idea. It is better to find the problems *first* and add only data that
clears the QA hurdle to OSM. Is this not an option in your case? You
have (personally) added a lot of problematic data in the past that had
to be fixed by others, or maybe hasn't.

> For example, thanks to the
> community, we already fixed over 600 incorrect links to wiki
> disambiguations pages, 

But this would have been possible without importing the data first?

> We will be
> able to fix when things are tagged as people (e.g. wikidata -> person,
> instead of subject:wikidata -> person),

I don't understand; you say that you want to add the wikidata tag to OSM
and only afterwards can you find problems like this? Why can you not
avoid adding a wikidata tag that points to a person in the first place
since it is obviously incorrect?

> find location errors (e.g.
> wikidata and OSM point to very different locations, implying that its an
> incorrect link).

Again, OpenStreetMap is not a workbench for importing and then fixing
non-OSM data (even if it may look convenient). Please build a QA process
based on the un-imported data and import it once you have fixed the
problems.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Redacting 75, 000 street names contributed by user chdr

[Greg Morgan]

On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 3:48 AM, Bianca Hambasan  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> We, the map analysts team from Telenav started editing in Phoenix by
> adding and reviewing the road geometry and road name, so we found this
> issue too. In our area of interest, we found about 5 200 ways with this
> tag. We want to help with this since we already edit in the area. Do you
> have any suggestions if we can contribute without overlapping our work? We
> can also use Map Roulette challenges, so anyone can be involved. If you
> have any other suggestion, we are open to them.
>
> As a source, we use Tiger data and Open Street Cam. What do you think
> about the accuracy of them?
>
>
>

Frederik,

What is the status of your name redaction?  chdr impacted many of the
streets that I made edits to.  I'd like to start fixing the names with the
Tiger 2015 layer.  However, I need to wait on your redaction.  I marked the
streets that need to be attended to by the chdr_USA_AZ_name_fixup_required
tag. I am not sure if your redaction will remove my name tag target or
not.  Can you localize you redaction to just Arizona so that I can get
going?  As noted by Bianca, Telenav is in the area editing right now and
would love to help with the fix up effort.

Please Advise,
Greg
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[OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

[Yuri Astrakhan]

There is now a relatively small number of OSM nodes and relations
remaining, that have wikipedia, but do not have wikidata tags. iD editor
already automatically adds wikidata to all new edits, so finishing up the
rest automatically seems like a good thing to do, as that will allow many
new quality control queries. I would like to auto-add all the corresponding
wikidata based on wikipedia, for all remaining objects, using  JOSM's
"Fetch Wikidata IDs".

This way, we will be able to quickly find all the objects that are
problematic with the Wikidata+OSM service. For example, thanks to the
community, we already fixed over 600 incorrect links to wiki
disambiguations pages, and this will find many more of them.  We will be
able to fix when things are tagged as people (e.g. wikidata -> person,
instead of subject:wikidata -> person), find location errors (e.g. wikidata
and OSM point to very different locations, implying that its an incorrect
link).

Some statistics (I don't plan to add wikipedia tags to those with only
wikidata)
Query: http://tinyurl.com/yafxe4co

has bothn   323,745
has bothw  137,097
has bothr   248,588

no wikidatan   68,330
no wikidataw  131,796
no wikidatar   11,602

no wikipedia  n   77,224
no wikipedia  w  47,402
no wikipedia  r   17,408
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[OSM-talk-be] Help organise a geospatial devroom at FOSDEM?

[Johan Van de Wauw]

Hi all,

Fosdem is the largest free and open source developers meeting in
Europe, with 7000+ participants.

I have organised a geospatial devroom the last years, and I'm looking
for people who would like to support doing another one next year (eg
promote the event / help with spreading the call for papers / help
with video during the event /... )

FOSDEM will take place 3&4 February 2018 in Brussels. Proposals for a
devroom can be filed until _tomorrow_, so if you would like to join
answer as soon as possible.

It would be nice if the organising team can be a mixture of people
from the different geo-communities so we can reach out to as many
people as possible.

Kind Regards,
Johan

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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

[Andy Mabbett]

On 19 September 2017 at 21:03, Yuri Astrakhan  wrote:

> There is now a relatively small number of OSM nodes and relations remaining,
> that have wikipedia, but do not have wikidata tags.

Thank you for your continued excellent work on this.

> iD editor already
> automatically adds wikidata to all new edits, so finishing up the rest
> automatically seems like a good thing to do, as that will allow many new
> quality control queries. I would like to auto-add all the corresponding
> wikidata based on wikipedia, for all remaining objects, using  JOSM's "Fetch
> Wikidata IDs".

Excellent idea; please do.

> This way, we will be able to quickly find all the objects that are
> problematic with the Wikidata+OSM service. For example, thanks to the
> community, we already fixed over 600 incorrect links to wiki disambiguations
> pages, and this will find many more of them.  We will be able to fix when
> things are tagged as people (e.g. wikidata -> person, instead of
> subject:wikidata -> person), find location errors (e.g. wikidata and OSM
> point to very different locations, implying that its an incorrect link).

The commonest error I have found is wikidata=Qnnn instead of
brand:wikidata=Qnnn for franchises like McDonalds and petrol stations.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
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Re: [OSM-talk] Adding wikidata tags to the remaining objects with only wikipedia tag

[Yuri Astrakhan]

>
>
> > This way, we will be able to quickly find all the objects that are
> > problematic with the Wikidata+OSM service. For example, thanks to the
> > community, we already fixed over 600 incorrect links to wiki
> disambiguations
> > pages, and this will find many more of them.  We will be able to fix when
> > things are tagged as people (e.g. wikidata -> person, instead of
> > subject:wikidata -> person), find location errors (e.g. wikidata and OSM
> > point to very different locations, implying that its an incorrect link).
>
> The commonest error I have found is wikidata=Qnnn instead of
> brand:wikidata=Qnnn for franchises like McDonalds and petrol stations.
>
> Andy, I agree - there are many ones like that, all around the globe.  I
know that in Israel, @SwiftFast uses a template to keep them in sync for
gas stations and ATMs, but we need a more generic solution.

A simple query could find all wikidatas pointing to enterprises, producing
cases like this (these are just the first ones i found)  -
http://tinyurl.com/yby8564c
* nodes 192051528, 243017574 -- villages marked as ski resort, place=hamlet
or village
* node 285833428 - a ski resort with place=locality
* node 436622732 - a mountain AND a ski resort in WD, with natural=peak in
OSM
* relation 128277 - a commune and a ski resort, marked as admin boundary

An alternative would be to maintain a whitelist of all known brands, either
on a wiki, or as an additional wikidata "instance-of   Q431289".
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Re: [Talk-it] tavoli da pic-nic

[Simone]

Il 19 settembre 2017 13:33:32 CEST, "demon.box"  ha 
scritto:
>Ciao quando trovo soltanto 1 tavolo isolato da pic-nic lo mappo come
>leisure=picnic_table
>quando invece i tavoli sono più di 1 allora mappo l'area come
>tourism=picnic_site
>
>Così mi pare di capire dalle relative pagine wiki
>
>ovvio che mappo l'area come
>tourism=picnic_site
>anche quando si tratta di una vera ed ufficiale area picnic con servizi
>igenici, barbeque, ecc.
>Siete d'accordo?
>Grazie, ciao
>--enrico
>
>
>
>
>
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L'area definisce l'area, i singoli oggetti sono definiti dai singoli POI.

L'area con solo tavoli è diversa dall'area con tavoli servizi ecc. Pertanto la 
differenza è vista con i tag/POI.


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[OSM-talk-be] meetup in Brugge

[joost schouppe]

Hoi,

Komende dinsdag doen we van meetup in Brugge. Dus wie altijd al eens andere
mappers wou ontmoeten, maar niet zo gemakkelijk in Gent, Antwerpen of
Brussel geraakt, nu is uw kans!
Gewoon in een rustig café, met de bedoeling elkaar te leren kennen, een
plaats om al je vragen over OSM te stellen, en om je ervaringen te delen.

Jonathan en ik zullen er alvast zijn. Hopelijk komt er nog volk :)

Registreer hier:
https://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/243369086/


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[Talk-it] tavoli da pic-nic

[demon.box]

Ciao quando trovo soltanto 1 tavolo isolato da pic-nic lo mappo come
leisure=picnic_table
quando invece i tavoli sono più di 1 allora mappo l'area come
tourism=picnic_site

Così mi pare di capire dalle relative pagine wiki

ovvio che mappo l'area come
tourism=picnic_site
anche quando si tratta di una vera ed ufficiale area picnic con servizi
igenici, barbeque, ecc.
Siete d'accordo?
Grazie, ciao
--enrico





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[OSM-talk-be] OSM at Open Day FabSpace - 10 OCT

[Info Fabspace]

Hello everybody.

FabSpace is organising an open day in Liege on 10th Oct, focused on open geo 
data and software.

We plan to have OSM presented in the afternoon. Is one of you interested in 
attending and presenting ?

The program is available here 
https://www.eventbrite.fr/e/billets-open-day-fabspace-20-liege-37839708587

Best Regards,

Herbert HANSEN
Project manager
GSM : +32 (0) 477 57 59 61

l  [WSL logo 2015]  l   [cid:image002.jpg@01D2A682.DE756300]
Rue Bois Saint Jean, 15/1 | B-4102 Seraing, Belgium
Tel : +32 (0)4 353 30 00
Web : www.wsl.be l www.fabspace.eu




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Re: [OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

[Nicolás Alvarez]

2017-09-20 1:51 GMT-03:00 Paul Norman :
> The Data Working Group is conducting a survey as part of its work on a
> policy covering paid mapping.

Thanks for this, I think it's an important topic. In Argentina we're
dealing with an organization or program that is "teaching" school
teachers to map (more like telling them to do it without any actual
instruction). This leads to thousands of accounts making <5 edits
each, usually breaking something in the process, and the local mapper
community is struggling to identify them and keep up with the cleanup.
I can elaborate on this particular case if you're interested (too
tired for that right now).

> The survey is available at https://osm-dwg.limequery.org/741554

Grammar error or typo: "Individual mappers can expected to
communicate". Is this supposed to be "can expect to" or "can be
expected to"?

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[OSM-talk] DWG survey on organised editing

[Paul Norman]

The Data Working Group is conducting a survey as part of its work on a
policy covering paid mapping.

When OpenStreetMap started, it was largely a project of hobbyists
contributing to OSM in their spare time. They chose freely what to map
and which tools to use, and they took individual responsibility for
their contributions.

The continuing growth and popularity of OSM have also brought more and
more organised mapping efforts, mostly in the form of companies setting
up paid data teams to improve OSM data in specific regions or for
specific use cases, but also unpaid groups like school classes that are
directed to work on OSM.

These organised mapping efforts are an integral part of today's OSM
contribution landscape and, when done well, help make OSM better and
more widely known.

In order to ensure good communication, and a level playing field,
between individual community members and organised editing groups, the
OSMF Data Working Group has been tasked with developing guidelines for
organised groups. These guidelines will above all set out some
transparency requirements for organised groups - things that are already
voluntarily followed by most groups today, like informing the mapping
community about which accounts edit for the team.

We have prepared the following survey with a few questions about such a
policy to give us a better understanding of what the mapping community
expects from such a policy. The survey is aimed at everyone editing (or
planning to edit) in OSM, whether as individual mappers or as part of a
team, and your answers will help us in fleshing out a draft policy.

Within the scope of the survey, and the policy to be written, we define
paid mapping (or paid editing) as any editing in OSM performed by
someone who is told by a third party what to map (and potentially also
how to map it) and who receives money in exchange. We define other
organised mapping (or editing) as any editing that is also steered by a
third party, but where no money is paid.

The survey is available at https://osm-dwg.limequery.org/741554

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[Talk-it] nuovi tag per idrante e correlato, era Idrante

[denis_dand...@inwind.it]

Scusate il ritardo ma sono riuscito solo ora a sistemare le foto. Le trovate 
condivise in Drive: 
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzDTjoNUOgH3MkY5NFZ4dnZYSEk
Non ho chiavi solo pentagonali ma solo la combo (pentagonale+a settore). 
Nessuna triangolare e di quadrate solo quella per idranti sottosuolo di cui 
però non ho fatto la foto
Trovate un gdoc con le foto ordinate e le descrizioni in inglese e italiano. 
Andrea confido in te per l'eventuale messa sul wiki.
Riguardo ai dati idrante da vigile del fuoco direi che le informazioni più 
importanti sono:
tipo (fire_hydrant:type=* attualmente): per sapere se serve la colonna o no
posizione (fire_hydrant:position=* attualmente): per sapere se ho problemi col 
traffico, auto parcheggiate (vedi https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:
OsmHydrant che dovrò aggiornare appena saranno cambiati i tag)
tipo di collegamento (couplings:type=*) e collegamenti (couplings=*): per 
sapere cosa ci posso attaccare ed eventuali adattatori che mi servono
wrench=* e cap:wrench=*: per sapere che chiavi mi servono per manovrarlo
Secondariamente pressione e portata
Ciao


>Messaggio originale
>Da: "Alberto" 
>Data: 18/09/2017 14.27
>A: 
>Ogg: Re: [Talk-it] nuovi tag per idrante e correlato, era Idrante
>
>> La cosa che non riesco a capire è l'interesse per le chiavi di manovra. Non 
ho visto sinceramente se si prendono in considerazione gli attacchi degli > 
idranti (Storz, UNI 45, UNI 70 ecc ecc.). Poi perché fermarsi alla sola chiave 
e non prendere in considerazione tutto il corredo idrante?
>
>Il tipo di chiave per aprirli è utile perché se uno ha con sé solo uno o due 
tipi di chiave, sa quali idranti riuscirà ad aprire, specialmente quando si 
viene chiamati per un'emergenza al di fuori del proprio territorio di lavoro 
abituale.
>
>Gli attacchi vengono definiti da questi tag:
>couplings=* numero di attacchi
>couplings:type=* tipo di standard UNI, Storz, ecc
>couplings:diameters=* diametri dei vari attacchi, separati da ; (esempio 
couplings:diameters=45;45;70)
>
>Se uno vuole prendere in considerazione tutto l'idrante può usare i tag:
>model=*
>manufacturer=*
>
>Ciao
>Alberto
>
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Re: [Talk-it] tavoli da pic-nic

[Giulio Barba]

Secondo me è importante che ogni tavolo sia taggato come POI, perché le tra
le varie applicazioni che trovano POI, che uso moltissimo nel tempo libero,
ricerco direttamente il POI (es. tavolo da pic-nic, e non l'area.
Siete d'accordo?

Ciao

Il giorno mar 19 set 2017 alle ore 14:00 Simone 
ha scritto:

> Il 19 settembre 2017 13:33:32 CEST, "demon.box"  ha
> scritto:
> >Ciao quando trovo soltanto 1 tavolo isolato da pic-nic lo mappo come
> >leisure=picnic_table
> >quando invece i tavoli sono più di 1 allora mappo l'area come
> >tourism=picnic_site
> >
> >Così mi pare di capire dalle relative pagine wiki
> >
> >ovvio che mappo l'area come
> >tourism=picnic_site
> >anche quando si tratta di una vera ed ufficiale area picnic con servizi
> >igenici, barbeque, ecc.
> >Siete d'accordo?
> >Grazie, ciao
> >--enrico
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> L'area definisce l'area, i singoli oggetti sono definiti dai singoli POI.
>
> L'area con solo tavoli è diversa dall'area con tavoli servizi ecc.
> Pertanto la differenza è vista con i tag/POI.
>
>
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>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

[Janko Mihelić]

pon, 18. ruj 2017. u 18:55 Oleksiy Muzalyev 
napisao je:

> It is not bad. But it is centered on two data bases - the Wikidata and the
> OSM. What if in the future there will be more open data sources readily
> available?
>

 Wikidata already gives you a way to connect its data to any other
database. You already have IMDB id for movies, MusicBrainz artist ID for
music, and so on. Actually, there are 1994 databases connected to Wikidata
right now, growing as we speak. So, if you really need data from these
other databases, WOQ can be your starting connector.

Janko
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Kathleen Lu]

If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like overkill,
but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts. It's free
and there is a setting to generate a license file.

The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You
could explicitly state another license next to the code (copy and paste the
license text onto the wiki page). MIT is compatible but I do not think GPL
is. I think Apache is probably compatible but seems like overkill for
scripts (it includes a patent license).

(disclaimer: not legal advice, just my 2 cents)

Best,
Kathleen


On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:15 PM SwiftFast  wrote:

> I have a bot[1]. I'd like to publish its scripts. A versioning  system
> like GIT would be overkill, because the scripts are short and rarely
> changing.
>
> I'm not a lawyer, and I have some questions:
>
> 1. Suppose I don't state any license, would that implicitly the same
> license of the wiki itself?[2]
>
> 2. Can I explicitly state a license such as MIT/Apache/GPL? Would any
> of those licenses conflict with the license of the Wiki itself?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Ilya Zverev]

https://gist.github.com would be the better option — it was specifically made 
for short rarely changing scripts. I keep a couple scripts there. Don't forget 
to put the license information in the comments in the script header.

Ilya

> 19 сент. 2017 г., в 20:09, Kathleen Lu  написал(а):
> 
> If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like overkill, 
> but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts. It's free 
> and there is a setting to generate a license file. 
> 
> The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You 
> could explicitly state another license next to the code (copy and paste the 
> license text onto the wiki page). MIT is compatible but I do not think GPL 
> is. I think Apache is probably compatible but seems like overkill for scripts 
> (it includes a patent license).
> 
> (disclaimer: not legal advice, just my 2 cents)
> 
> Best,
> Kathleen
>  
> 
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:15 PM SwiftFast  wrote:
> I have a bot[1]. I'd like to publish its scripts. A versioning  system
> like GIT would be overkill, because the scripts are short and rarely
> changing.
> 
> I'm not a lawyer, and I have some questions:
> 
> 1. Suppose I don't state any license, would that implicitly the same
> license of the wiki itself?[2]
> 
> 2. Can I explicitly state a license such as MIT/Apache/GPL? Would any
> of those licenses conflict with the license of the Wiki itself?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Champs phone : futur projet du mois ?

[osm . sanspourriel]

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Num%C3%A9ro_de_t%C3%A9l%C3%A9phone#F

France métropolitaine : +33 C CC CC CC CC ou 0C CC CC CC CC (format 
national)



Le 19/09/2017 à 21:36, Romain MEHUT - romain.me...@gmail.com a écrit :
Le 18 septembre 2017 à 22:35, > a écrit :


Ce n'est pas incompatible E.123 dit qu'un numéro de téléphone peut
comporter des espaces pour la lisibilité.

Et en France le regroupement se fait usuellement par paquets de 2
chiffres hormis le premier si on passe au format international.


Usuel pour qui ?
Cela me donne l'impression, pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire 
compliqué...


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Re: [Talk-cz] Elbe-Labe-Meeting 2017 - Animované gpx stopy

[Miroslav Suchý]

Dne 19.9.2017 v 18:59 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> vždycky se mi líbila videa ze slovenských mapping párty a chtěl jsem si
> nějaké gpx tracky naanimovat. Ale nebylo moc materiálu. Až teď ;-)

V cem se to animuje?

Mirek

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Champs phone : futur projet du mois ?

[Jérôme Amagat]

Si vous voulez corriger des numéros avec d'autres caractères que des
chiffre et des espace et éventuellement un + au début, avec
http://overpass-turbo.eu/ cette requête sur une zone que vous aurez choisi :

[out:xml][timeout:2500];
(
  node["phone"]["phone"!~"^[\+]?[ 0-9]+$"]({{bbox}});
  way["phone"]["phone"!~"^[\+]?[ 0-9]+$"]({{bbox}});
  relation["phone"]["phone"!~"^[\+]?[ 0-9]+$"]({{bbox}});
);
out meta;
>;
out meta qt;

le seul problème c'est que il peut il y avoir plusieurs numéros dans le
champ phone=* séparé par des ";"

sinon plus compliqué  :

[out:xml][timeout:2500];
(
  node["phone"]["phone"!~"^([\+33] ?)?[0-9]( ?[0-9])+(;([\+33] ?)?[0-9](
?[0-9])+)*$"]({{bbox}});
  way["phone"]["phone"!~"^([\+33] ?)?[0-9]( ?[0-9])+(;([\+33] ?)?[0-9](
?[0-9])+)*$"]({{bbox}});
  relation["phone"]["phone"!~"^([\+33] ?)?[0-9]( ?[0-9])+(;([\+33]
?)?[0-9]( ?[0-9])+)*$"]({{bbox}});
);
out meta;
>;
out meta qt;

Pour celui là je garantis pas qu'il n'y a pas d'erreur :)
C'est sensé vouloir dire
que les numéros peuvent commencer par +33
qu'il n'y a, a part la +, que des chiffres et des espaces
qu'il ne peut pas y avoir plusieurs espaces qui ce suivent
qu'il n'y a pas d'espace avant ou après le numéro
et qu'il peut y avoir plusieurs numéros qui se suivent séparer par des ";"
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Champs phone : futur projet du mois ?

[Jérôme Amagat]

Le 18 septembre 2017 à 22:24, Romain MEHUT  a écrit
:

> Bonsoir,
>
> Désolé mais je ne comprends pas cette spécificité française. Le wiki était
> déjà clair avec un exemple http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/
> wiki/FR:Key:phone?uselang=fr#Exemples Un numéro de téléphone fixe
> classique en France métropolitaine, dont l'indicateur régional serait 04
> s'inscrirait de la manière suivante : *phone*=+33 4 12345678
> <+33%204%2012%2034%2056%2078>
>
> Pourquoi des espaces autour du 4 ?
Pour moi c'est sans espace nul part ou par groupe de 2 chiffres (pas tout a
fait vu que pour la notation internationnal il y a 1 chiffre seul : +33 X
XX XX XX XX )



> Et maintenant on a un point http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/
> wiki/FR:Key:phone?uselang=fr#En_France_m.C3.A9tropolitaine qui dit
> autrement
>
> Elle est où la logique ?
>

J'ai fait que ajouter les lignes mais oui il faudrait modifié les exemple
au dessus. J'attendais les réactions pour modifier l'existant sur la page
:)


"De plus on avait dit que dans certains cas (numéros mnémotechniques)
d'autres regroupements étaient possibles."
Moi ce que j'en pense c'est que c'est numéro c'est des numéros commerciaux
et osm n'est pas là pour faire de la pub.

Sinon laisser la possibilité de mettre des espaces où l'on veux et donc :
numéro pouvant être fait a l’étranger : +33 et après 9 chiffres et autant
d'espace que l'on veux
numéro ne pouvant pas être fait a l’étranger : des chiffres et des espaces
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[talk-latam] Fwd: Mapeo Humanitario.

[Fredy Rivera]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Fredy Rivera 
Date: 2017-09-19 18:24 GMT-05:00
Subject: Mapeo Humanitario.
To: enrique.zap...@presidencia.gob.mx, OpenStreetMap Latinoamérica <
talk-latam@openstreetmap.org>, Rosa Cristina Parra Lozano <
rosacristina.pa...@gmail.com>



La comunidad OpenStreetMap de Latinoamerica lamenta profundamente lo
sucedido en su país el día de hoy, por estro ponemos a disposición nuestra
infraestructura y equipo de voluntarios compuesto por miles de personas con
habilidades cartográficas quienes estamos dispuestos a aportar nuestro
conocimiento, infraestructura y datos geograficas para el análisis y
mitigación de la crisis.

Particularmente nuestro equipo tiene experiencia en el levantamiento de
información geográfica en situación de crisis lo cual hemos venido haciendo
desde hace algunos años a resaltar la experiencia en el pasado terremoto en
Ecuador y últimamente la Avenida Torrencial en la ciudad de Mocoa Colombia.

El trabajo de cartografía lo podemos realizar de manera remota usando
nuestra plataforma y gestionando imagenes satelitales y/o bien recopilando
información con sensores remotos o drones en el terreno.

Ya que la información geográfica que generamos se encuentra bajo una
licencia libre, puede usada para cualquier propósito lo cual ha hecho
posible que los organismos de atención de muchos países e incluso el
sistema de Naciones Unidas la usen para la gestión del riesgo.

Espera ser de ayuda en la mitigación de esta crisis quedamos atentos.


Fredy Rivera
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Re: [Talk-us] Requesting to remove stoplines in San Jose

[Vivek Bansal]

All,

I messaged pflier last night and today we have been having a fruitful and
positive discussion.  As soon as he gets access to the list he will comment.

-3vivekb



On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 8:27 AM Saikrishna Arcot 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've seen the new stoplines in San Jose as well, and the reason they're
> not useful as-is IMO is because they're not connected to the main road that
> has the stop line; it's just a floating disconnected way. If they were
> connected to the road, then it would be more useful to data users, but in
> their current state, for it to be of use, data users would have to do some
> additional processing on their end to find out what way it intersects to
> see where it applies.
>
>
> On 09/19/2017 08:00 AM, Greg Morgan wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Vivek Bansal <3viv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, I noticed pfliers has added lots of unconnected ways w/
>> `highway=stopline` all over San Jose. It’s really been cluttering up our
>> workflows in iD, and now it’s triggering JOSM’s validator as we’re adding
>> sidewalks. Can we remove them in one big mechanical edit? Even if the
>> concept is good, they’d have to be remapped in order to be useful anyways.
>> Maybe they should be a node along the centerline.  Or instead they should
>> be a road_marking.
>>
>> This also affects Phoenix, Arizona.
>>
>> Here is a link to pfliers history:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pflier/history#map=6/38.882/-117.411
>>
>> Here is pfliers proposal:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/stop_line
>>
>> -3vivekb
>>
>> I noticed the new tagging in Phoenix.  I sent the Keep Right maintainer a
> request that excludes highway=stopline from "intersections without
> junctions" checking.  I do not believe the sky is falling.  I don't see how
> these stoplines would have to be remapped.  When we look at the data, all
> the Phoenix stoplines are mapped by traffic lights.  I am not sure how
> stoplines would impact your workflow.  Ignore the Josm validation
> recommendations for these stoplines.  I haven't put a request into Josm
> maintainers but it is certainly something that you can do.
>
> The proposal has something to do with autonomous cars. The stoplines may
> just be perfect for the Phoenix area.
>
> http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/tech/2017/06/23/arizona-getting-ahead-autonomous-vehicle-industry-stepping-aside-waymo-uber-intel-chevy-bolt/405436001/
>
>
> https://www.keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=15=33.51322=-112.06043=B0T=0%2C130%2C191%2C192%2C193%2C194%2C195%2C196%2C197%2C198_ign=0_tmpign=0
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Re: [Talk-us] Requesting to remove stoplines in San Jose

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 19.09.2017 03:39, Vivek Bansal wrote:
> Hey, I noticed pfliers has added lots of unconnected ways w/
> `highway=stopline` all over San Jose. It’s really been cluttering up our
> workflows in iD, and now it’s triggering JOSM’s validator as we’re
> adding sidewalks. 

Who is "we"?

> Can we remove them in one big mechanical edit? Even if
> the concept is good, they’d have to be remapped in order to be useful
> anyways. 

I'm unsure - why do you think they have to be "remapped to be useful"?
Useful to whom? Have you discussed this with the user (or have you at
least tried)?

It sounds to me as if there are two contravening goals here. One, we
would like to avoid people adding "niche" information to the map that
makes it more difficult for other mappers to do their work. But on the
other hand, we encourage people when they're planning to introduce a new
tag, to "test-run" it for feasibility. You don't have to ask for
permission to map something new, and you shouldn't have to expect others
to simply remove your stuff because their chosen editor pops up a
warning. (It could be the editor or the workflow that need changing, not
the data.)

> Maybe they should be a node along the centerline.  Or instead
> they should be a road_marking.

That's a valuable discussion to be held, and I would suggest to hold
this discussion before removing anything, if possible (and if the user
in question is willing to discuss).

Your sidewalks are not per se more important or more valuable than
pfliers' stop lines, and you wouldn't want someone else to simply
mass-delete your sidewalks because their editor showed them a warning
when adding stop lines!

> Here is pfliers proposal:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/stop_line

The proposal certainly needs fleshing out. Personally I think the use of
the "highway" tag is questionable since there will be many applications
out there that treat any linear feature with highway=* as something you
can travel on.

Bye
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] OpenStreetCam or Mapillary?

[Brian Prangle]

Hi everyone

I'm in discussions with TfWM to use their inspection teams'  time on the
street to assist us by taking photos with smartphones, which will also help
them with their asset management and not have to rely on outdated data from
Google StreetView.

Which one of the above is better for us? Or just plain better?

Regards

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Champs phone : futur projet du mois ?

[Romain MEHUT]

Le 18 septembre 2017 à 22:35,  a écrit :

> Ce n'est pas incompatible E.123 dit qu'un numéro de téléphone peut
> comporter des espaces pour la lisibilité.
>
> Et en France le regroupement se fait usuellement par paquets de 2 chiffres
> hormis le premier si on passe au format international.
>

Usuel pour qui ?
Cela me donne l'impression, pourquoi faire simple quand on peut faire
compliqué...

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Re: [talk-latam] [GPSDD Partners] RE: URGENT Earthquake Mexico City

[Javier Carranza]

Ok, de acuerdo de mi parte si con eso funciona la cooperación.

Alonso Ortiz es quien recibió el pedido original de presidencia. Entiendo
que Miriam está solicitando ayuda a través de Digital Globe, por lo que
quizás convenga que ella se ponga en contacto también.

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Subject: [GPSDD Partners] RE: URGENT Earthquake Mexico City
To:
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"jorge.d...@presidencia.gob.mx" , "
andres.go...@datos.mx" 


Dear Partners,



*Enrique Zapata, General Director of Open Data from the Office of the
President of Mexico* just sent a message to share with the Global
Partnership. Please answer to him directly if you want to support at
enrique.zap...@presidencia.gob.mx , as well as to Cc’ed colleagues.



Dear friends,



*Mexico has just suffered a new 7.1 earthquake, with affected zones mainly
in Mexico City and Puebla.*



I am calling all GPSDD partners that could have high quality satellite
images, or can activate your satellites and donate images of Mexico City
and Puebla so as to help us in the Mexican Government to map and understand
the degree of damage.



Thank you very much in advance,

Enrique Zapata





Best,

AOG



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Re: [talk-latam] [GPSDD Partners] RE: URGENT Earthquake Mexico City

[Fredy Rivera]

Si es necesario podemos hacer una activación a nivel Latinomerica con La
Unidad de Mapeo Humanitario y nuestra infraestructura.
No es necesario esperar las decisiones del HOT.

Salu2 Fredy Rivera
UMH Colombia

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Javier Carranza <
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> Esta es una solicitud que se hace desde presidencia de México.
>
> ¿Alguien sabe si se está planeando una activación en Hot OSM?
>
> Saludos
>
>
>
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> wrote:
>
>> Dear Partners,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Enrique Zapata, General Director of Open Data from the Office of the
>> President of Mexico* just sent a message to share with the Global
>> Partnership. Please answer to him directly if you want to support at
>> enrique.zap...@presidencia.gob.mx , as well as to Cc’ed colleagues.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>>
>>
>> *Mexico has just suffered a new 7.1 earthquake, with affected zones
>> mainly in Mexico City and Puebla.*
>>
>>
>>
>> I am calling all GPSDD partners that could have high quality satellite
>> images, or can activate your satellites and donate images of Mexico City
>> and Puebla so as to help us in the Mexican Government to map and understand
>> the degree of damage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance,
>>
>> Enrique Zapata
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> AOG
>>
>>
>>
>> Alonso Ortiz Galan
>>
>> Community Engagement Manager
>>
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Re: [talk-latam] [GPSDD Partners] RE: URGENT Earthquake Mexico City

[Javier Carranza]

Esta es una solicitud que se hace desde presidencia de México.

¿Alguien sabe si se está planeando una activación en Hot OSM?

Saludos



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> Dear Partners,
>
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[Talk-us] Uploading sidewalks in San Jose, California, US

[Vivek Bansal]

All,

I'm asking for a community review of our project to import the Sidewalks of
San Jose, California.

The Wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_County,_California/San_Jose_Sidewalk_Import

Summary:
We are mappers attached to Code for San Jose.

We are using the San Jose data which has an ODbL compliant license (and any
government data in California has the same).  The import will happen
through the tasking manager in 640 separate blocks using JOSM.

We are only adding the sidewalks - not crossings nor curb cuts.

We are following the reasoning of the Seattle Import.

This message will be cross-posted on:
imports
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Thank you for your time!

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Re: [Talk-cz] [osm_sk] Elbe-Labe-Meeting 2017 - Animované gpx stopy

[Martin Ždila]

Ahoj,

2017-09-19 18:59 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral :

> vždycky se mi líbila videa ze slovenských mapping párty a chtěl jsem si
> nějaké gpx tracky naanimovat. Ale nebylo moc materiálu. Až teď ;-)
>
> https://youtu.be/TL07rKKPOa0
>
> Posílám díky na Slovensko.
>

Dakujeme, pekne videjko :-)

To mi pripomina, ze som este stale nespravil video z nasej poslednej
mapping party a to o chvilu mame dalsiu.

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[OSM-talk-fr] License DB liée

[eMerzh]

Hello à tous,

j'ai reçu une quetsion et ne maitrisant pas trop le sujet je ne sais pas
trop où l'envoyerdonc voilà je tente ici (désolé si c'est raté)

je voudrais faire une collection (genre) de tweet qui contiennent donc lat,
long
là dessus, moi j'écris un logiciel qui viens faire du reverse geo-coding pr
avoir les pays, villes ... basé sur une DB OSM.
Puis, j'utilise cette db pour faire une superbe webapp / website.

quels sont mes obligations:
- créditer OSM ( je suppose que oui)
- rendre cette db elle même sous ODBL pour les users de mon site/app
- la mm chose mais pr tt le monde
- rien de tout ça, ou autre ?


Merci pour votre aide,

Brice
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Re: [Talk-cz] Elbe-Labe-Meeting 2017 - Animované gpx stopy

[Martin Ždila]

2017-09-19 22:57 GMT+02:00 Miroslav Suchý :

> Dne 19.9.2017 v 18:59 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> > vždycky se mi líbila videa ze slovenských mapping párty a chtěl jsem si
> > nějaké gpx tracky naanimovat. Ale nebylo moc materiálu. Až teď ;-)
>
> V cem se to animuje?
>

http://zdila.github.io/gpx-animator/

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Re: [Talk-cz] Elbe-Labe-Meeting 2017 - Animované gpx stopy

[Mikoláš Štrajt]

Dobrá reklama!
A tohle video ještě lepší - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9d9W-kP8kc
Asi příští rok opráším němčinu/angličtinu a přijedu taky. Sudety a Německo
už jsem dlouho nenavštívil.

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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 19. 9. 2017 17:01:25
Předmět: [Talk-cz] Elbe-Labe-Meeting 2017 - Animované gpx stopy
"Ahoj,
vždycky se mi líbila videa ze slovenských mapping párty a chtěl jsem si
nějaké gpx tracky naanimovat. Ale nebylo moc materiálu. Až teď ;-)

https://youtu.be/TL07rKKPOa0

Posílám díky na Slovensko.

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[talk-au] West End Mapping Party Coming Soon (30th September)

[David Dean]

Hi everyone,

You may be exciting to know that we have another Mapping Event coming soon!

Details below, please register at
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/west-end-mapping-party-tickets-37838244207.

I hope to see you there, and please pass this email onto anyone who you
think might be interested. Everyone is welcome!

*Where:*

Hope St Cafe, 170 Boundary St, West End (
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4706019031)

*The Plan:*

*Saturday 30th September 2017*

*13:30 - 14:30*: Meet up over coffee, chat about maps

*14:30 - 17:00*: Split up and map West End

Please feel free to call David on 0407 151 912 on the day if you can't find
us.

*About OpenStreetMap*

OpenStreetMap is a collaboratively built free map of the world, with simple
wiki-like editing; think ‘Wikipedia’, but for maps. The result is highly
detailed digital maps, created and edited by local communities, that are
free to reproduce without the normal commercial restrictions. It's a fun
project to get involved with; you'll discover how maps are made and uncover
the geographical secrets of your neighbourhood.

Volunteers from all around Brisbane have already begun mapping the roads,
footpaths and cycleways across the city, but now we need your help to
improve our map by adding street and building details and amenities such as
restaurants, parks, playgrounds and shops.

*The Event*

Participants will be welcome to map however and wherever they want, but
here are a few suggestions for things that other mappers like to collect:

Missing streets, footpaths and cycleways
Missing street names
Missing building details
Missing street facilities (traffic lights, pedestrian crossings, speed
bumps, etc.)
Missing reserves, parks, schools and child-care centres
Missing amenities (water fountains, toilets, playgrounds, seats, shelters,
etc.)
Details of shops/restaurants/pubs

However, if you aren't sure what you can do, we'll be happy to provide
ideas and help get you started. If you have a GPS device, including a
GPS-enabled phone, bring it along, but you don’t need anything special to
map - just a pen and paper will do. Blank maps for note-taking can easily
be made available if prior notice is provided.


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rennes : cartographie du Musée de Bretagne

[Gaël Simon]

Bravo pour cette belle initiative et ces résultats !

Gaël

Le 19 sept. 2017 à 10:21, gwen...@niadomo.net a écrit :

bonjour

À l'occasion des Journées européenne du patrimoine, le groupe des
contributeurs d'Ille et Vilaine a entamé la cartographie intérieure du
Musée de Bretagne à Rennes.

Cette contribution est innovante puisque peu de musées sont encore
cartographiés précisément en intérieur dans OSM.

Pour tout savoir sur cette expérience originale, je vous invite à lire
l'article rédigé par Adrien Pavie sur le site d'OSM France :
https://openstreetmap.fr/musee-bretagne-indoor

Gwen

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[Talk-se] Ändringsset: 52111741

[Tobias Johansson]

Hej

Såg att en byggnad i Göteborg har oturligt ändrats (enligt mig fel). Jag
tror inte det är pga av någon elak anledning utan bara pga inte kännedom om
hur buildings 3d funkar.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52111741#map=19/57.70132/11.91397

Jag vet inte riktigt hur man kan gå till väga för att reverta ändringen men
någon annan kanske har koll. Jag har lagt till en kommentar på
ändringssettet i fråga.

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Re: [Talk-de] [Autoedit] Änderung de.boundary_name nach boundary_name:de

[streckenkundler]

Hallo Zusammen,

Ich habe die Änderung von de.boundary_name nach boundary_name:de soeben
hochgeladen. 

Changeset:  http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52187171
  

Auch den einen Punkt nl.boundary_name habe ich nach boudary_name:nl
geändert.

Changeset:  http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/52187312
  

Da die JOSM-Vorlagen geändert sind, ist die Chance daß die fehlerhaften Keys
wieder autauchen, noch eher gering...

Dieser Text erscheint in gleicher Form auch auf der Mailingliste.

Viele Grüße,

Sven




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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Putting simple scripts in the Wiki without violating CC BY-SA 2.0

[Kathleen Lu]

If I were you, I would put the code into GitHub. It may seem like overkill,
but it will make it much easier for others to find your scripts. It's free
and there is a setting to generate a license file.

The wiki is under a CC-SA license, which is not a good match for code. You
could explicitly state another license next to the code (copy and paste the
license text onto the wiki page). MIT is compatible but I do not think GPL
is. I think Apache is probably compatible but seems like overkill for
scripts (it includes a patent license).

(disclaimer: not legal advice, just my 2 cents)

Best,
Kathleen


On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:15 PM SwiftFast  wrote:

> I have a bot[1]. I'd like to publish its scripts. A versioning  system
> like GIT would be overkill, because the scripts are short and rarely
> changing.
>
> I'm not a lawyer, and I have some questions:
>
> 1. Suppose I don't state any license, would that implicitly the same
> license of the wiki itself?[2]
>
> 2. Can I explicitly state a license such as MIT/Apache/GPL? Would any
> of those licenses conflict with the license of the Wiki itself?
>
> Thanks!
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:SwiftFast#SwiftFast_bot
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[OSM-talk-fr] Rennes : cartographie du Musée de Bretagne

[gwentux]

bonjour

À l'occasion des Journées européenne du patrimoine, le groupe des
contributeurs d'Ille et Vilaine a entamé la cartographie intérieure du
Musée de Bretagne à Rennes.

Cette contribution est innovante puisque peu de musées sont encore
cartographiés précisément en intérieur dans OSM.

Pour tout savoir sur cette expérience originale, je vous invite à lire
l'article rédigé par Adrien Pavie sur le site d'OSM France :
https://openstreetmap.fr/musee-bretagne-indoor

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[Talk-cz] Elbe-Labe-Meeting 2017 - Animované gpx stopy

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,
vždycky se mi líbila videa ze slovenských mapping párty a chtěl jsem si
nějaké gpx tracky naanimovat. Ale nebylo moc materiálu. Až teď ;-)

https://youtu.be/TL07rKKPOa0

Posílám díky na Slovensko.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Use of Drones

[me]

On 18/09/17 at 12:53pm, Philip Barnes wrote:
>There was a talk by 'the only licensed drone pilot in Scotland' at SOTM
>Scotland a couple of years ago.
> 
>I missed the outdoor demo as I went to the NLS map library.

Yes Paul has a eBee senseFly - https://www.sensefly.com/drones/ebee.html

Because it's a "winged" craft then with the right permissions it is
possible to fly over populated areas. So can get aerial footage for
relatively low cost, but is a more expensive investment than some of
the very low cost drones that seem to be more targeted towards filming.

It's also ideal for imagery as it will fly a preset route capturing the
required stills to cover the area needed, and then lands.`

Cheers
Chris


> 
>On 18 September 2017 12:14:01 BST, Marc Gemis 
>wrote:
> 
>  Oleksiy Muzalyev seems to be pretty knowledgable on drones. He has
>  posted about it a couple of times on the talk mailing list.
>  e.g. 
> [1]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2016-September/076758.html
> 
>  But he's not living in the UK.
> 
>  regards
> 
>  m.
> 
>  On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Brian Prangle  wrote:
> 
>   The regulations on the use of drones in the UK are already quite restrictive
>   (if, of course, you're a  responsible memeber of society) and are imminently
>   to become even more restrictive with licensing and proof of competence
>   becoming requirements. I'm pessimistic about being able to make use of
>   drones to capture imagery. Does anyone have any experience of using drones?
> 
>   regards
> 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Rennes : cartographie du Musée de Bretagne

[osm . sanspourriel]

Belle initiative.

Peut-être qu'une url courte (propre à un olu.net ou depuis is.gd) 
permettrai de créer un QR code que le musée pourrait imprimer et coller 
à côté des artéfacts (par exemple https://is.gd/f80z97 pour 
https://openlevelup.net/?l=1#20/48.10505/-1.67512 soit 
blob:null/8a1aea6e-7049-47f1-b9d2-a9e5538ce277blob:null/8a1aea6e-7049-47f1-b9d2-a9e5538ce277blob:null/8a1aea6e-7049-47f1-b9d2-a9e5538ce277).


Idéalement l'url d'OpenLevelUp permettrait de sélectionner l'objet en 
question (pas seulement de voir l'endroit) à la OSM 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5111042629.


Au fait "La céramique"est-ce un nom ou une description ? Car c'est le 
nom de la vitrine qui décrit son contenu.


Ne manque-t-il pas indoor 
=glass_cabinet sur cet 
objet ?


Bien-sûr une page du musée qui affiche la carte OLU, ça va aussi.

Jean-Yvon

Le 19/09/2017 à 10:21, gwen...@niadomo.net a écrit :

bonjour

À l'occasion des Journées européenne du patrimoine, le groupe des
contributeurs d'Ille et Vilaine a entamé la cartographie intérieure du
Musée de Bretagne à Rennes.

Cette contribution est innovante puisque peu de musées sont encore
cartographiés précisément en intérieur dans OSM.

Pour tout savoir sur cette expérience originale, je vous invite à lire
l'article rédigé par Adrien Pavie sur le site d'OSM France :
https://openstreetmap.fr/musee-bretagne-indoor

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Re: [Talk-us] Requesting to remove stoplines in San Jose

[Greg Morgan]

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Vivek Bansal <3viv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, I noticed pfliers has added lots of unconnected ways w/
> `highway=stopline` all over San Jose. It’s really been cluttering up our
> workflows in iD, and now it’s triggering JOSM’s validator as we’re adding
> sidewalks. Can we remove them in one big mechanical edit? Even if the
> concept is good, they’d have to be remapped in order to be useful anyways.
> Maybe they should be a node along the centerline.  Or instead they should
> be a road_marking.
>
> This also affects Phoenix, Arizona.
>
> Here is a link to pfliers history:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pflier/history#map=6/38.882/-117.411
>
> Here is pfliers proposal:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/stop_line
>
> -3vivekb
>
> I noticed the new tagging in Phoenix.  I sent the Keep Right maintainer a
request that excludes highway=stopline from "intersections without
junctions" checking.  I do not believe the sky is falling.  I don't see how
these stoplines would have to be remapped.  When we look at the data, all
the Phoenix stoplines are mapped by traffic lights.  I am not sure how
stoplines would impact your workflow.  Ignore the Josm validation
recommendations for these stoplines.  I haven't put a request into Josm
maintainers but it is certainly something that you can do.

The proposal has something to do with autonomous cars. The stoplines may
just be perfect for the Phoenix area.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/tech/2017/06/23/arizona-getting-ahead-autonomous-vehicle-industry-stepping-aside-waymo-uber-intel-chevy-bolt/405436001/

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Re: [Talk-us] Requesting to remove stoplines in San Jose

[Saikrishna Arcot]

Hi,

I've seen the new stoplines in San Jose as well, and the reason they're
not useful as-is IMO is because they're not connected to the main road
that has the stop line; it's just a floating disconnected way. If they
were connected to the road, then it would be more useful to data users,
but in their current state, for it to be of use, data users would have
to do some additional processing on their end to find out what way it
intersects to see where it applies.

On 09/19/2017 08:00 AM, Greg Morgan wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Vivek Bansal <3viv...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> Hey, I noticed pfliers has added lots of unconnected ways w/
> `highway=stopline` all over San Jose. It’s really been cluttering
> up our workflows in iD, and now it’s triggering JOSM’s validator
> as we’re adding sidewalks. Can we remove them in one big
> mechanical edit? Even if the concept is good, they’d have to be
> remapped in order to be useful anyways. Maybe they should be a
> node along the centerline.  Or instead they should be a road_marking.
>
> This also affects Phoenix, Arizona.
>
> Here is a link to pfliers history:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pflier/history#map=6/38.882/-117.411
> 
>
> Here is pfliers proposal:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/stop_line
> 
>
> -3vivekb
>
> I noticed the new tagging in Phoenix.  I sent the Keep Right
> maintainer a request that excludes highway=stopline from
> "intersections without junctions" checking.  I do not believe the sky
> is falling.  I don't see how these stoplines would have to be
> remapped.  When we look at the data, all the Phoenix stoplines are
> mapped by traffic lights.  I am not sure how stoplines would impact
> your workflow.  Ignore the Josm validation recommendations for these
> stoplines.  I haven't put a request into Josm maintainers but it is
> certainly something that you can do.
>
> The proposal has something to do with autonomous cars. The stoplines
> may just be perfect for the Phoenix area.
> http://www.azcentral.com/story/money/business/tech/2017/06/23/arizona-getting-ahead-autonomous-vehicle-industry-stepping-aside-waymo-uber-intel-chevy-bolt/405436001/
>
> https://www.keepright.at/report_map.php?zoom=15=33.51322=-112.06043=B0T=0%2C130%2C191%2C192%2C193%2C194%2C195%2C196%2C197%2C198_ign=0_tmpign=0
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