[OSM-talk] We got permission to continue tracing from Strava

2019-11-15 Thread pangose
Good news for OSM! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Permissions/Strava Also the Strava fork of iD might still be working. See http://strava.github.io/iD/#background=Bing=17.00/-110.02947/53.27094 Hooray  Cheers pangoSE -- Sent from:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose tout bleu ?

2019-11-15 Thread Stéphane Péneau
J'ai déjà contacté le contributeur pour le prévenir que ce n'était pas la bonne méthode, et que ces tags allaient être supprimés. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/76350382 2 - mais ce que je ne comprends pas c'est que la ref insee, dans la pop-up, pointe sur la base mérimée (qui est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose tout bleu ?

2019-11-15 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Le 16/11/2019 à 00:32, Yves P. a écrit : 1 - une forte concentration de cette ref sur beaucoup de place=* alors que cette ref est censée n’être utilisé sur sur les relations qui forment la commune https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:ref:INSEE Si je suis Vincent, il ne faudrait pas

[talk-au] Aust Data Catalogue

2019-11-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Hi all With Andrew's permission & OK, I've started the process of tidying up the Data Catalogue page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_data_catalogue Looking at putting each State's data together, too make it easier to find. Will take a little while, but in the meantime, your

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose tout bleu ?

2019-11-15 Thread Yves P.
> 1 - une forte concentration de cette ref sur beaucoup de place=* alors que > cette ref est censée n’être utilisé sur sur les relations qui forment la > commune https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:ref:INSEE Si je suis Vincent, il ne faudrait pas mettre ref:INSEE sur les lieux-dits ? Ou

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Osmose tout bleu ?

2019-11-15 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Le 15/11/2019 à 22:48, Cédric Frayssinet a écrit : Je ne sais pas si c'est normal... alors je préfère demander : http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/#zoom=12=45.2354=4.9744==1==online Qu'en pensez-vous ? 1 - une forte concentration de cette ref sur beaucoup de place=* alors que cette

[OSM-talk-fr] Osmose tout bleu ?

2019-11-15 Thread Cédric Frayssinet
Je ne sais pas si c'est normal... alors je préfère demander : http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/#zoom=12=45.2354=4.9744==1==online Qu'en pensez-vous ? Cédric -- Sur Mastodon : @bristow...@framapiaf.org Promouvoir et soutenir le logiciel libre

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Un peu de BANO v2

2019-11-15 Thread deuzeffe
On 11/11/2019 16:34, Vincent de Château-Thierry wrote: Bonjour, Bonsoir, TL;DR : il y a enfin des choses à tester avec BANO v2, c'est par là : https://dev.cadastre.openstreetmap.fr/fantoir/ Superbe travail, plus rapide, plus fluide, plus complet (pas comme le cadastre, en somme, ou dans

Re: [Talk-de] Vortragseinreichung FOSSGIS-Konferenz 2020 in Freiburg im Breisgau

2019-11-15 Thread Christoph Hanser
Hallo Michael, Wir hätten Lust von Trufi zu erzählen und wie wir OSM, OTP, GTFS, etc nutzen und mit Communities zusammenarbeiten. Wäre das ein Thema für euch? Welche Beitragsform wäre am besten geeignet? Ich würde versuchen, morgen ein paper dafür einzureichen. Lg Christoph ... von unterwegs

Re: [Talk-GB] Neighbourhood/LSOA Names

2019-11-15 Thread Mark Goodge
On 15/11/2019 18:38, Owen Boswarva wrote: Hi Steve, Do you mean this? https://visual.parliament.uk/msoanames Recently completed, but the House of Commons Library did request suggested names back in January when it was in draft. The problem with census areas, at any level, is that they don't

Re: [Talk-de] Windy Map mißachtet OSM-Lizenz?

2019-11-15 Thread Robert Grübler
Sehr schön, die Entwickler haben reagiert: https://community.windy.com/topic/3353/map-correction/15 Das zeigt mir, dass wir – die Mitwirkenden von OpenStreetMap – etwas in Gang setzen können. Wir wollen, dass unsere Arbeit verwendet wird, wir wollen sie aber auch anerkannt sehen. Ein

Re: [Talk-at] Windy Map

2019-11-15 Thread Robert Grübler
Sehr schön, die Entwickler haben reagiert: https://community.windy.com/topic/3353/map-correction/15 Das zeigt mir, dass wir – die Mitwirkenden von OpenStreetMap – etwas in Gang setzen können. Wir wollen, dass unsere Arbeit verwendet wird, wir wollen sie aber auch anerkannt sehen. Ein

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cartographie de la pub... et chargement des données sur MapContrib

2019-11-15 Thread Paul Desgranges
Bonjour, Effectivement 933 entrées remontées par https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/O88 ! Pas mal ! (Avec ceci déjà on peut voir la quantité, la densité, et l'inventaire sert déjà à ça !) Et les nouvelles entrées sont souvent qualifiées dans le détail, c'est-à-dire qu'il n'y a pas que l'attribut

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] prev.openstreetmap.fr

2019-11-15 Thread Cédric Frayssinet
Le 14/11/2019 à 18:00, marc marc a écrit : > Le 14.11.19 à 17:13, Vincent Bergeot a écrit : >> disons que la première étape est sans doute de référencer ce qui doit >> être migrer de prev. à l'actuel :) >> > 2 pistes : > > - utiliser un moteur de recherche pour voir ce qui est référencé > sur

Re: [talk-au] (NSW) Email Update – Changes to permanent speed limits

2019-11-15 Thread David Wales
I have since signed up to the service. Clicking on the link in the email takes me to a page on the website, which is explicitly CC 4.0. I suspect this means it is OK to manually add a note or FIXME requesting resurvey. I don't think that should cause trouble with the ODBL, because you're not

Re: [Talk-GB] Neighbourhood/LSOA Names

2019-11-15 Thread Owen Boswarva
Hi Steve, Do you mean this? https://visual.parliament.uk/msoanames Recently completed, but the House of Commons Library did request suggested names back in January when it was in draft. Owen On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 at 18:34, Steve Doerr wrote: Does anyone recognize this? A few months ago, I

[Talk-GB] Neighbourhood/LSOA Names

2019-11-15 Thread Steve Doerr
Does anyone recognize this? A few months ago, I remember visiting a website that was looking to crowdsource meaningful names for neighbourhoods. I think it was based on Census Output Areas, probably at the LSOA level. It had a map showing the boundaries of the areas, and they had preloaded

[Talk-br] Importação de dados da PBH/Prodabel

2019-11-15 Thread Alexandre Oliveira
Boa tarde! Como dito anteriormente em um email que enviei para esta lista[1], estou elaborando um plano para importar os dados de prédios e endereços que a prefeitura de Belo Horizonte possui, no seu portal próprio, sob a licença ODbL[2]. Algumas semanas atrás, confirmei a existência de marcos

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 15 November 2019, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > there isn't OSM data in their dataset. > > > > And neither is there is my ocean data set - the OSM data set used > > only contains land masses, my resulting data set (D2 in Rory's > > terms) only contains oceans. So no OSM data in it. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. Nov. 2019 um 14:21 Uhr schrieb Christoph Hormann : > On Friday 15 November 2019, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > there isn't OSM data in their dataset. > > And neither is there is my ocean data set - the OSM data set used only > contains land masses, my resulting data set (D2 in Rory's

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. Nov. 2019 um 13:44 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > I understand that training their algorithim ("AI") on Openstreetmap > data is fine. > > actually this is something I do not understand. What is called "artificial intelligence" in this context is

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 15 November 2019, Martin Trautmann wrote: > > No. Elementary logic does not apply for legal advice. Thanks for putting it so bluntly - that is indeed an impression i often get from discussions on legal matters in the OSM community. But as said that makes this kind of discussion

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Wayne Emerson, Jr. via talk
/>"I don't understand why it is being claimed that facebook ... is not using Openstreetmap data."/  The original claim was not about facebook "using" OSM data, it was that a specific dataset was "derived" from OSM data. To use the cooking analogy, a cake is derived from flour, oil, sugar, etc.

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Mikel Maron
I suggest that those that want to continue this discussion do so on the legal-talk mailing list. It’s especially for discussing this level of detail of license questions.https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/  You all are free to ignore my suggestion, it’s not made with any

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 19-11-15 12:38, Christoph Hormann wrote: > Because the basis of most comments made does not seem to be the desire > to neutrally assess the situation Rory presents here and its > implications. This would usually go by considering what if Rory is > right and data productions like this would

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 15 November 2019, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > From an engineering perspective the idea that adding OSM data can > > create a derivative database but subtracting OSM data cannot does > > not hold up of course. I can create a polygon data set of the > > Earth surface (a simple

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Nuno Caldeira
Well it's quite obvious to me that for adding or subtracting you need OSM data, so I have no doubts. it's like a cook recipe, if you don't have use it, you won't get the end result without it, adding or subtracting. On Fri, 15 Nov 2019, 11:41 Christoph Hormann, wrote: > > This realization (of

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I don't know anything about the legal aspects, but logically I don't understand why it is being claimed that facebook releasing a list of possible roads, which specifically excludes all roads in Openstreetmap, is not using Openstreetmap data. I understand that training their algorithim ("AI") on

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. Nov. 2019 um 12:41 Uhr schrieb Christoph Hormann : > Because the basis of most comments made does not seem to be the desire > to neutrally assess the situation Rory presents here and its > implications. > What it seems instead happens here is that people look at the situation > and

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OverpassTurbo] Manquent terminus dans ligne de métro

2019-11-15 Thread Shohreh
Shohreh wrote > Quelle est alors la bonne façon de faire pour récupérer correctement toute > une ligne de train, et lister les éventuelles ways qui dépassent les > terminus (pour l'esthétique) ? Il manque encore la solution pour lister et masquer les éventuels ways qui dépassent des terminus,

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence of Facebook's derived road datasets? ODbL?

2019-11-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
(Deliberately replying to myself since this is not meant as a reply to anyone specifically) If i try for a moment to ignore the fact that this matter has significant meaning for the OSM community and its social cohesion (the social contract between mappers and data users etc.) this is

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [OverpassTurbo] Manquent terminus dans ligne de métro

2019-11-15 Thread Shohreh
marc marc wrote > ha... cela fonctionne. mais c'est assez embrouillant de sauver une > relation dans une variable habituellement utilisé pour sauver une zone > géographique. > > du coup si tu n'as pas filtré sur une zone géographique, tu vas avoir des > résultats surprenant le jour un autre

Re: [Talk-de] Windy Map mißachtet OSM-Lizenz?

2019-11-15 Thread Martin Trautmann
On 19-11-14 18:49, Robert Grübler wrote: > Basiert die Karte in eurer Gegend auch auf OSM? > Jedenfalls, die Urheberrechte so verschwindend zu würdigen, empfinde ich als > respektlos. Windy gesteht ganz offen, dass sie die Daten der OSM benutzen:

Re: [Talk-it] Violazione Licenza - FoodChain-Lab

2019-11-15 Thread Fra Mauro
Grazie mille Martin! Il 15 Novembre 2019 11:05:30 CET, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: >dopo che erano zitti avevo richiesto e mi hanno poi risposto subito che >risolveranno con priorità. Pare che hanno 2 app, di cui una già aveva >l'attribuzione e l'altra appunto seguirà. Speriamo. > >Ciao

Re: [Talk-it] Violazione Licenza - FoodChain-Lab

2019-11-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
dopo che erano zitti avevo richiesto e mi hanno poi risposto subito che risolveranno con priorità. Pare che hanno 2 app, di cui una già aveva l'attribuzione e l'altra appunto seguirà. Speriamo. Ciao Martin https://github.com/SiLeBAT/BfROpenLab/issues/459

Re: [Talk-de] Windy Map mißachtet OSM-Lizenz?

2019-11-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 15. Nov. 2019 um 10:18 Uhr schrieb Robert Grübler < robgrueb...@gmail.com>: > Am Freitag, 15. November 2019 09:33 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto: > dieterdre...@gmail.com] > < ich habe keine Lust mich bei denen zu registrieren, > > Verstehe das, aber WIR sind die Community, nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Windy Map mißachtet OSM-Lizenz?

2019-11-15 Thread Robert Grübler
Am Freitag, 15. November 2019 09:33 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] < ich habe keine Lust mich bei denen zu registrieren, mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 15. November 2019 09:33 An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Windy

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Validateur JOSM : "Valeur de la propriété inconnue"

2019-11-15 Thread lenny.libre
Le 15/11/2019 à 08:56, Yves P. a écrit : Bonjour, Je n’arrive pas à trouver le validateur de JOSM pour faire un ticket approprié. (vivement Github ou Gitlab ) Dans le menu de JOSM : Aide ou Maj+F1 > Signaler une erreur > dans la création d'un nouveau ticket : Composant = Core validator ?

Re: [Talk-it] iD editor

2019-11-15 Thread liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu
Il 13/11/19 18:23, Francesco Ansanelli ha scritto: > Grazie per la segnalazione, Martin!! > Condivido ogni parola e sono convitto che Frédéric, che ho avuto la fortuna > di conoscere, sia un ottimo candidato per cambiare le sorti di iD. > > Francesco > Concordo sulla lettera, anche se un anno

Re: [Talk-es] Mapeo de espacios protegidos

2019-11-15 Thread Jordi MF
Hola agustin, Respecto a la licencia CreativeCommons 3.0, se necesita un permiso explícito para poder usar dichos datos. Por eso tampoco podemos usar los del ICV. A ver si la semana que viene, en unas jornadas de datos abiertos que organiza el Ayuntamiento de València, hay algún responsable del

Re: [Talk-de] Windy Map mißachtet OSM-Lizenz?

2019-11-15 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 15. Nov 2019, at 00:52, Robert Grübler wrote: > > Magst du das den Entwicklern > https://community.windy.com/topic/3353/map-correction/11 > mitteilen? ich habe keine Lust mich bei denen zu registrieren, ein Fax wäre wohl angemessener, am besten auf