--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
and mud, poor traction ground clearance and a ford still
might not make a 4wd
only track.
Having grown up in such areas I'm well schooled in traveling along tracks that
aren't 4wd only and ways to unstick yourself, usually jacking up the car
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
WHS -- it meets the guidelines of being verifiable, by
being what's on
the ground. If it were based on one mapper's judgement,
that would be
different, but this is unambiguous.
Australia isn't the only country that
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
It's up to the AU community what to do about this, but be
aware that in
the European Axis there's a very strong feeling that for a
road to be
tagged residential, there needs to be houses (or other
dwellings) on it,
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
It doesn't need to be explicitly forbidden for it to still
be forbidden.
Is it forbidden, explicitly or otherwise?
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--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
If there are types of roads in Australia that you feel the
existing tags
don't adequately describe, feel free to start using a new
one -- you can
use Any Tags You Like. Bear in mind that the highway tags
aren't
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
The tagger just needs to be able to describe what is
there simply and clearly. A new tag for rural
unclassifieds would clarify matters, and
highway=rural is as good a suggestion as any. It would be
better for us
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote:
Remember that data is no good if it's not rendered, and the
software
can't be expected to deal with a gazillion different
situations. It's
better to keep the data general. So using the surface=*
tag is a
better approach
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Okay, i got the point. I agree that this should be put into
a tag/value pair but with the clarification that
4wd_only=yes (or whatever the tag will be) does *not*
necessarily mean that all 4wd vehicles could pass this road
at
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
If you are using highway=unclassified in a residential area
to mean less
significant than highway=residential, you're doing it
completely contrary
to standard practice. Therefore you are by definition
wrong.
I didn't say I
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
in the end there will be only one maxspeed at the same
time.
I agree, but my point was there could be a combination of restrictions at the
same time, but obviously one must take precedence over the others and that will
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Also, what if you don't know what time the school zone
applies?
Around here, they usually just have a sign with 20 when
lights flash
or similar. I assume its at typical school times, but how
would I tag that?
School signs in
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Craig Wallace craig...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Though the colon is already used for the time syntax for
the
opening_hours key: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:opening_hours
That's a fairly well used key, so it makes sense for the
restrictions
time syntax to be
--- On Wed, 5/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Not really John, although difficult is subjective... just
extract
whatever is in []'s first, then parse as normal. Having two
different
forms of time (i.e. HHMM and HH:MM) seems a bit
unnecessary.
There is justification for
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Ulf Möller use...@ulfm.de wrote:
And suddenly changing the meaning of a widely used tag is a
really,
really bad idea.
Well I was right, it is too ambiguous :)
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--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
and then we find out that whatever track translates to in
German is not the
same as what track means in Au.
so again we have widely used tags who are about to change
their meaning
It means about the same from what I've seen, a forestry type
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Martin, its only 5 days a week and not in school holidays
so how do we expand the tagging to cover the full set of
restrictions?
No matter what happens school holidays or the inverse can be mapped to some
administrative boundary.
Western
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
That's proposing highway=rural as something less
significant than tertiary
(bad, we already have unclassified for that), not something
less significant
than unclassified (good, we don't have anything like that
in rural
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
I'm concluding that - while you wouldn't start
from here - the existing tagging can be made to work, though
the documentation should be improved. We don't really
need another level in the countryside, and there
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
Routers can look for an abutters tag just as easily as
using an urban area polygon.
They don't always exist either. That's the problem, lots of Australia is just
blank or very near to it.
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote:
That is a lack of data problem, there is nothing that you
can do about it other than go out and do some mapping!
I penned this email about a week ago.
I was watching the State of the Map Canadian talk and they point out how
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
Rural is lower than residential doesn't arise, because by
definition residential means a built-up area, so it ain't
rural.
Exactly.
I would humbly suggest highway=minor is a better tag
because
Someone already did and it
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
maxspeed[school_days][08:30-09:30]=40
Except that is putting values on the key side of things. To do things properly
you would need something like this.
maxspeed:school_zone=40
maxspeed:school_zone:on=08:30-09:30;14:30-15:30
--- On Thu, 6/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Without that requirement, it's a one-liner:
maxspeed[Tu,Th][12:00-24:00] = 50
You've gone from school zones to general restrictions.
School zones as signed in Australia are predicable to some extent, they are
always mon-fri and
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm ok, fair enough, you've convinced me - although you'd
probably
want to use maxspeed:time_limited to indicate that the
value is not a
time, but a full description of a time-limited
restriction.
It's a limit so stating limited
But there is an obvious problem: you may want two values
for the same key, e.g.
maxspeed:weather = wet;80 and
maxspeed:weather = snow;30
I'm guessing this is not OK? Actually. won't this
often be a
You would have to have some sophisticated routing software to know weather in
the
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't like the _1 and _2, but I guess you're saying
that's the only
I didn't come up with it, it's already being used for other similar things
where the same tag appears multiple times.
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote:
But that's the point! We need a way of modelling more
complex cases anyway, so why do you want to special case
school zones?
School zones are a special case because they don't operate all year round, and
you need to store school terms
--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Marc Schütz schue...@gmx.net wrote:
Let me rephrase the question: if it is possible to devise a
tagging scheme that is able to model all relevant
restrictions we encounter in reality including school zones
(and I believe it is possible), why do you still want a
seperate
Create a web page for every suburb, village and
hamlet. Create a link to
the nearest city or town in bold (if there are
multiple cities at the
same distance, create multiple links. Find all the
streets that are
closest to this suburb and create links for each one.
The same goes
--- On Sat, 8/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote:
So if we take normal uranium it will only be alpha
radiation,
unless you eat, breath in dust etc. it is not harmful. (So
you know
exactly the reason why you shouldn't eat mushrooms in
East-Europe)
What about Uranium mining areas?
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote:
Most likely this is true because the TIGER dataset was
actually traced
from/for a much lower precision map, hence wavy because you
are plotting
it on a far higher resolution then it was created for. With
respect to
TIGER you
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote:
Moving stuff in GIS is never trivial. You don't know why it
is wrong, and
even if it looks 'locally' shifted it could be even
misrectified causing
it to be shifted and streched possibly rotated.
You get 4 or more points on the
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
Since you are probably not allowed to go inside that fence,
you can't know
where the radioactive areas are.
Don't know if the mining area would be much higher than background, but the
mined ore is transported to a processing facility,
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote:
Already saw an OSM editor supporting realigning Yahoo
Imagery based on
existing points?
Not automatically, but JOSM can shift the yahoo image to align it to known
points then you just move nodes/ways as needed.
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
The reasoning stays the same. Dangerous industrial/mining
activity tends to be
fenced in to prevent accidents. I don't see why
radioactivity needs any
special handling compared to other dangerous activities
like:
I wasn't asking
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, noh way jose noh.way.j...@dsl.pipex.com wrote:
Has this been done/suggested yet?
I suggested something similar to the talk-au list, I even mailed the contact
address on the website of major shopping centre operators but they never
replied.
--- On Sun, 9/8/09, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:
I didn't record PDOP information and
such, but are there any solutions to
record decent GPS traces on trails under forest canopy data
collection other
than a high end professional GPS datalogger?
If a phone network and the phone
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com
wrote:
The English-language page suffered from enthusiastic
editing by people who thought path might lead to
footway/cycleway ceasing to be required (unlikely). And the
result does need tidying up.
This came up on
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com wrote:
With path, you can distinguish between e.g. officially
designated
footways and those that have no designation at all.
Furthermore, it is possible to tag combined
cycle/foot/whateverways
without discriminating one of the modes of
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
for a new feature, do what you want! But it's crazy that we
let random
unaccountable groups of wiki users change the rules for
Maybe some pages on the wiki should be locked, and translations of mapping
features shouldn't change the
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com wrote:
makes, at least in Germany, a big (legal) difference...
That isn't the case in other places, in some states of Australia you are
allowed to cycle on foot paths, but the primary purpose is for pedestrians and
they have right of way
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, if you have some time it will be an option to wait for
the leaves
falling in autumn (seriously).
What if they are evergreen and don't loose their leaves in autumn? :)
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Paul Houle p...@ontology2.com wrote:
The nuke industry isn't perfect
either. The operation of once
No but they've had a lot more practice in the mean time of what not to do :)
I really love how everyone is so hell bent on making everyone so poor they
can't afford
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
Does this sound workable?
I agree in principal, however if a vote is only conducted in person at the SOTM
events it penalises everyone unable to attend.
If you are going to the trouble to create a working group to nut out complex
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
what about wind and solar energy? With a large-scale
(DC-)grid you can
also achieve the coverage of base loads with wind-energy,
as there is
always some wind somewhere. What about reducing useless
energy
consumption and
--- On Mon, 10/8/09, Alex L. Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
OK, but how does that mean it was forced? No one
was (or is) held at
gunpoint and ordered to use highway=path. We followed
the standard,
documented procedure for adding a tag to the wiki. We
did nothing
nefarious to stuff
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Alex L. Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
If you have a proposal for a better
system (and I'm
pretty sure that doesn't include any kind of wiki masters
who get to
decide what's useful and what's not), I'm sure we'd be
happy to hear it.
I'm in agreement with Tom's
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Define stick i.e. no one can force people to tag in a
certain way,
so what are you referring to? Just the wiki or something
else? This
worries me a bit...
I'm talking about a basic subset of tags that are commonly used, such as
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Ah, so you're proposing basically a one-off overhall of the
set of
basic tags, after which everything returns to normal (i.e.
relative
chaos)?
No, I'm proposing that a working group be setup and work through existing and
new
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:
The thing is though it doesn't necessary imply this. There
are examples of
highway=footway which are *private* paths not accessible
legally to the
public (or only through payment of an entrance fee) e.g.
the paths
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
why should we (or you) focus on the development of an
industry-scale-technology with high potential risk, if the
sun sends
far more energy for free than we need, without either the
risk of a
MCA nor the waste-problem,
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote:
There's a difference between mapping what you can verify --
the
presences of buildings, fences, structures, etc. and
mapping pollution
or radioactivity levels, especially when you're not allowed
anywhere
near the
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote:
Another example: if you eat too much table salt in short
time (or drink
salty sea wather) you would also die = should we tag
all shops as
dangerous area?
If you drink too much water in a short time your brain swells up
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
Now, a political question. Is there postal service
between USA and
Cuba? Perhaps an off-shore version of Walking Papers
is required?
I don't think embargoes usually extend to letters, the same can't be said for
packages however.
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote:
So anyway, i propose to add
surface=gravel;dirt;grass;concrete, to go
along side highway=value. (which listed more generally,
what the way
is generally used for (type of travel between 2 points)
Umm someone already has
--- On Wed, 12/8/09, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote:
There is no consent on which way to go to express the
strict use case.
Does there need to be?
Not that this implies that I agree or disagree but strictly from a technical
point of view all you have to do is create/get an extract of a bounding
--- On Wed, 12/8/09, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote:
Going the other way and not having highway=footway imply
any value for
bicycle would mean that people like me could tag something
as a
footway and say that I don't know whether it's suitable for
cycling on
by leaving the
--- On Wed, 12/8/09, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote:
Well basically your approach is a variant of the path+acess
tags. You
just leave cycleway alone and use it like path, expressing
all the
important information in access tags. This is a possible
way to go if we
can achieve consent on it,
--- On Wed, 12/8/09, Kate maps2w...@gmail.com wrote:
At the last DC mapping party in
Silver Spring, Maryland, I came across
a giant acorn that should be marked on OSM, but not sure
the best way
to tag it:
tourism=viewpoint ?
Also, how we should tag attractions like the world's
largest
--- On Thu, 13/8/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
I can't even decide if I don't know BST
so could you tell us in UTC too?
3am AEST...
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--- On Fri, 14/8/09, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote:
I don't mind if anybody wants to have a phone conversation
on things. Just keep
in mind that most interested people will not be on that
phone call and that all
the discussions have to be repeated on this list or on the
wiki for the
--- On Sun, 16/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:
I'd recommend synchronising this with wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniature_railway
A lot of work has been done there between the various types
of model/miniature
railway, and that page has a fairly comprehensive list of
--- On Mon, 17/8/09, Jonas Häggqvist ras...@rasher.dk wrote:
In some ways, it does feel wrong though, to have all those
tags without
any useful information, but consider that it does have the
information
that someone thought about it and added the tag.
I don't see this any differently then
--- On Mon, 17/8/09, Erik Johansson e...@kth.se wrote:
Anyways I was pointed to a camera that records your
journey.
http://technabob.com/blog/2009/08/12/selfic-cube-7100-car-black-box-recorder/
Is 640x480 good enough?
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--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote:
Chapters meetings. You can find minutes here [1] along
with information about the next meeting.
There seems to be more questions posed than answers in the minutes...
The next meeting is proposed for the 24th August
at 18.00 -
--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote:
Would a 'local chapters' email list not be a
great way to include people from all around the world on
different time zones for to include those for whom English
is a second language? A combination of email list and wiki
allow
--- On Tue, 18/8/09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Burning Man 08 doesn't require many tiles, so it's
something Y! can probably
render and hard code? Quick and dirty maybe and wouldn't
scale, but it would
be a start.
Also if the burning man event moves
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote:
I think a Gauge=width (in mm I guess) is worth adding.
Why not just use width=* which is already in use for a lot of other things?
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--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org wrote:
Are Miniture Railways a British Thing, or is it that they
appear most
often in the Uk? (Making us Brits a load of Train
enthusiasts)
There seems to be a number of them around Australia as well, some have a lot of
track, eg 4km of 5 and
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, ok then, 4D. And yes, in the short-term I guess the
editor could
download data from *all time* - but *eventually* the API
will need to
support this kind of bounding box including a time limit,
because the
length of the time
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
This would lead to massive amounts of historic information
into the
future - i.e. nothing that has been correctly mapped need
ever be
deleted.
Even so, this would be a minority of data, the majority of roads rarely if ever
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes - not sure what dates to put on
it though. The Festival is the
last two weekends in August and the campers start arriving
a week or
two before that. Ideally I wouldn't have to go back
and reset the
dates on all the tags each
--- On Thu, 20/8/09, John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net wrote:
Just a small observation but if conf calls aren't allowed
then I think
complaints that things move too slowly should also be
banned.
I don't think any form of communication should be excluded, however decisions
only based on
--- On Thu, 20/8/09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com
wrote:
If anyone would like to purchase a new Hi-Viz OSM Surveyor
vest please let
What do they look like?
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snip
Did a mailing list get sorted out?
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--- On Fri, 21/8/09, Rob r...@coolbegin.com wrote:
maybe you could skip the complete db and
make a dynamic kml layer (by using a php file that outputs
xml) in openlayers
Any suggestions on exporting admin boundaries from a database to kml format?
--- On Fri, 21/8/09, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
Nothing automated should happen with Australia yet. We need
to check that any
map is suitable for public display.
A bad or unfinished map is dreadful advertising.
All publicity is good publicity, it may encourage others to fix the
--- On Fri, 21/8/09, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
If you have some kind of database anyway (e.g. postgis for
mapnik-rendering on cassini, it shouldn't be the problem.
I have a suitable query, I just don't know how to turn the query into kml data,
such as lines.
select way from
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote:
ERROR 1: ERROR: AddToPROJ4SRSCache: Cannot find SRID
(4326) in spatial_ref_sys
nm, found this:
psql gis /usr/share/postgresql-8.3-postgis/spatial_ref_sys.sql
Then run this SQL query:
INSERT into spatial_ref_sys (srid, auth_name
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
I'm aware of that and the admin_level=2 is only used in the
subquery to determine the boundary of germany. The main
query runs without a admin_level-condition, only with
boundary='administrative', does it?
What boundaries are
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
boundary='administrative' AND admin_level='2'
AND name='Deutschland'
LIMIT 1) )
to get all boundaries in germany but i only get Aachen [1]
and Deutschland [2] back. Any idea?
admin_level=2 is country level, 4 and
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Jon Burgess jburgess...@googlemail.com wrote:
One possibility is:
ogr2ogr -f KML admin.kml PG:dbname=gis -sql select
name,transform(ST_ExteriorRing(way),4326) from
planet_osm_polygon where boundary='administrative' and
admin_level='10'
I get the following error and
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Any :) I'm just getting started. I tried to find any
boundaries in a given Area, in this case in Germany.
Leave admin_level= out of the query
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--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Jon Burgess jburgess...@googlemail.com wrote:
This admin.kml loads up fine in GoogleEarth and the
boundaries appear as lines.
Thanks for your help, just admin_level=10 information for only the Australia
region is 186M uncompressed and 76M when zipped.
Will have to come
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
I thought of this before and that's why I would suggest to
do it with mapnik mod_tiles or so (as is said in my
initial posting).
I currently do, but I was hoping to avoid needing 2 tile sets just for showing
the admin_level=10
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:
Thank you for the hint :)
I really shouldn't be emailing when tired...
The second should fetch the border of Germany and the first
one all boundaries in that. At least that's what I want it
to do :)
I just ran that query on
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Jon Burgess jburgess...@googlemail.com wrote:
In part it could be caused by invalid geometries. Postgis
reports that
only Polska is actually a valid polygon geometry. Any
errors could upset
algorithms like ST_Within().
gis= select name,isvalid(way) from
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote:
Not really. There's a lot of elevation data available in the GPS traces, and
since roads where incline=* is relevant are drawn along GPS traces, it's a
matter of exploiting that data value. I'm aware that the GPS elevation data
--- On Sat, 22/8/09, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote:
When subtracting two positions from each other, the
absolute positioning error will disappear.
In addition, for many traces there will be multiple
measurements, which will give a much better determination of
the gradient.
I
--- On Sun, 23/8/09, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote:
I realize it wont be possible to compute elevation
gradients tomorrow, but why not plan ahead? Who would've
thought a few years ago that the project would be so far
advanced? Wouldn't you rather have nodes on a way with
--- On Sun, 23/8/09, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote:
I have done a dataset conversion in
preparation for a bulk import of an NHD
coastal sub-basin in the US. One of the
last river stages generated a
multipolygon relation containing about 3,000 members.
Is it best to break this into
--- On Sun, 23/8/09, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
Using the same top level tag (e.g. highway=conveyor) would
only make
sense if applications could use both the same way, and I
don't believe
there are apps that can. Routers don't need conveyors for
goods for
their calculations,
--- On Sun, 23/8/09, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
No, it doesn't happen there. Evaluating access tags is
already necessary
for highway=footway, too (bicycle=yes etc.), so path
doesn't require
evaluating additional tagging.
Not according to the osm-template.xml...
--- On Sun, 23/8/09, Till Harbaum / Lists li...@harbaum.org wrote:
Am Sonntag 23 August 2009 schrieb Ed Avis:
There are plenty of unnamed streets on the map - where
in the real world no
name has been assigned by the local authority.
We could name those streets
after top OSM
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, dasdje...@comcast.net dasdje...@comcast.net wrote:
How necessary is it to preserve left and
right zip codes in the way data? (These are frequently
inaccurate, and I would prefer not to have to research
them).
It shouldn't be necessary to keep county, state, country or
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds good to me. Not sure what John means - I think this
is less
ambiguous than having the same tag (highway=conveyor) mean
two
different things.
Because they are both man made it's ambiguous, it's a very bad idea to use tags
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't have a problem with that, the question came up
because when I
see the word conveyor it's not escalators or travelators
that come to
mind for me. Can I suggest that the documentation for
I've seen some very very long
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
stop=first (-1)
stop=last (yes)
stop=both (both)
Hrmm that is more concise, but I think less
self-explanatory (remember
that not everyone reads the wiki before editing). E.g.
stop=both could
be misunderstood to mean
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
The ways must be split so that they end (or begin) at the
intersection. (This is required for most of the relation
proposals
anyway, IIRC.)
Then, each way to which a stop sign applies should be
tagged with
stop=at_last_node
--- On Mon, 24/8/09, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
It wasn't my suggestion. I don't like the idea of putting
a node just
before the intersection, because that is arbitrary. If
we're tagging
an attribute of the way, tag the way - if we're tagging an
attribute
of the intersection,
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