+1
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From: john whelan
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 2:15:44 PM
To: dcapillae
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Removing "WikiProject" prefix
Sounds wonderful, but that is a purely personal comment.
Cheerio John
On Sat, Jul
Bravo à tous ceux qui arrivent à maintenir à jour le réseau routier de
Montréal (pont Champlain, échangeur Turcot, ...) !
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From: Pierre Béland via Talk-ca
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 6:24:58 PM
To: talk-ca; Alouette955
Subject: Re:
.
The repository will also be used to show results on expected problematic
footprints people would like to see processed, like the test area proposed by
Jarek.
Thanks,
Daniel
https://github.com/jfd553/OrthogonalizingBuildingFootprint
-Original Message-
From: Begin Daniel [mailto:jfd
[mailto:o...@elrick.de]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 13:30
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org; Begin Daniel; Pierre Béland
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Importing buildings in Canada
Bonjour Daniel,
C'est une bonne nouvelle ! Pierre et moi avons déjà commencé à en parler
dans des messages privés, et Pierre y
Based on previous comments I improved the application and everything seems
right now. I’ll start publishing results/documentation in following days ☺
We may then start developing an “open source” version of the application.
Daniel
From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday,
Buildings where there is no available municipal data
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From: John Whelan
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 9:32:32 AM
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: Talk-ca; keith hartley
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import
Are you talking about the older CANVEC data
Someone has compared Bing and Canvec data in rural areas?
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From: OSM Volunteer stevea
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:52:02 PM
To: Talk-ca
Cc: keith hartley
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import
Ah, good dialog ensues. Municipality by
Tim pose une question réaliste...
Qu’est-ce qui se passe si un jour OSM ne m’intéresse plus ?
J’utilise FME parce que le développement se fait de façon 100 fois plus rapide
pour tester des idées (je n’aime pas la programmation standard - je fais trop
d’erreurs d’inattention dans les détails ;-)
Piórkowski [mailto:ja...@piorkowski.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 17:19
To: Begin Daniel; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] FW: Building Import
Hi Daniel,
If you are interested, some more potentially complicated areas around
Golden Horseshoe for testing. Each is roughly one
oval
from the community is required before I go further.
Daniel
From: John Whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 16:04
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: Jarek Piórkowski; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org; keith hartley; Alessandro
(STATCAN)
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import
I think m
Jarek,
The area you proposed in quite interesting and will force me to look further at
buildings with sharing edges, a concern Pierre also had. I'll be back soon with
your area processed.
Daniel
-Original Message-
From: Begin Daniel [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26
[mailto:ja...@piorkowski.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 13:46
To: Begin Daniel; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 13:10, Begin Daniel wrote:
> There is actually no standard “code” available since I use FME
> (www.safe.com). It is a proprieta
on the amount of data to process ;-)
Cheers,
Daniel
-Original Message-
From: Jarek Piórkowski [mailto:ja...@piorkowski.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:15
To: Begin Daniel; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 11:58, Begin Daniel wrote
of downtown conflated by hand in one task
by a single mapper - a recipe for disaster I'm sure, given how detailed the map
is in that area.
Cheers,
Nate Wessel
Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning
NateWessel.com<http://natewessel.com>
On 3/19/19 12:58 PM,
d the map
is in that area.
Cheers,
Nate Wessel
Jack of all trades, Master of Geography, PhD candidate in Urban Planning
NateWessel.com<http://natewessel.com>
On 3/19/19 12:58 PM, Begin Daniel wrote:
Hi all,
As mentioned a few weeks ago, I have almost completed the development of a
clean-up tool
I expect Pierre, Tim and others to send me any data they believe would be
problematic. If I send them my own test dataset, it may not cover the cases
they are interested in. ☺
Daniel
From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 13:32
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: talk
+1
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From: Tim Elrick
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 7:09:11 PM
To: James; Begin Daniel
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Microsoft has released its building outlines for Canada
Hi Daniel and James,
Sounds good, Daniel. Looking
Tim,
I have plenty of free time and I am interested in this import. I am about to
complete a pre-processing tool that seems to “orthogonalize” building
footprints pretty well using FME (safe software). I plan to present/discuss its
functionalities next week on this list (vertex filtering,
La discussion en cours va dans la bonne direction, il est nécessaire de
prétraiter correctement les données avant de les mettre à la disposition du
gestionnaire de tâches OSM. Nous devons (simplement !-) nous entendre sur ce
qui doit être fait.
La partie qui m’inquiète est la seconde étape du
+1
From: Nate Wessel [mailto:bike...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 08:54
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Building Import update
John,
IMO, this is a red herring and I think you must recognize that to at least some
degree. Just like no one suggested we do 3700
It seems that talk-ca works this way - long periods of silence, then a burst of
emails because something went wrong! I just realized that this massive import
of buildings started a few weeks ago and I'm surprised.
I was trying to stay informed about the project because I was worried about how
I would agree to one import plan with an appropriate validation mechanism. I am
concerned that the buildings they provide in rural areas come from Canvec. Over
the years I have deleted/modified thousands of them (Canvec buildings) and I
would not like to see all of them coming back.
Daniel
Andrew, Je ne crois pas que le fait que ces ‘contributeurs’ soient Roumains,
Javanais ou Américains soit à considérer. Ils nous ont consultés avant de faire
la modification et c’est parfait. Cependant, je suis entièrement en accord avec
ta réponse - laissez ça à la communauté canadienne!
(I do
Terrible names indeed!
Google provides pictures of those terrible bike trails but as I am not a BC
resident, I can't be sure they are actually named that way :-)
Daniel
-Original Message-
From: Frederik Ramm [mailto:frede...@remote.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 October, 2017 11:04
To:
That is helpful!
Thank Jochen
Daniel
-Original Message-
From: Jochen Topf [mailto:joc...@remote.org]
Sent: Monday, 17 July, 2017 10:27
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 09:52:48AM +0200, Jochen Topf wrote:
> > How
data on this list.
Cheers,
Daniel
From: Begin Daniel [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 3 July, 2017 16:00
To: Alan Richards; Stewart C. Russell
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems
Thanks everyone,
Stewart sent me an example I can use ☺
Daniel
From
Thanks everyone,
Stewart sent me an example I can use ☺
Daniel
From: Begin Daniel [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 3 July, 2017 09:53
To: Alan Richards; Stewart C. Russell
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Multipolygon problems
If someone could provide me
certain
imports or import authors vs others that makes the difference.
alarobric
On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Stewart C. Russell
<scr...@gmail.com<mailto:scr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 2017-07-02 04:41 PM, Begin Daniel wrote:
>
> However, since the same translator was used fo
I have checked for the origin of the problem with old documentation about the
Canvec2osm process. It seems the proprietary translator (FME) used to convert
the data to OSM may have generated the problem.
However, since the same translator was used for all the polygons, the problem
should also
Bjenk, I was on the same impression that CSD did (used to) not always match
municipal limits because of their objective (census) since in some case it
would not make sense to do so for statistical purpose…
Daniel
From: Bjenk Ellefsen [mailto:bjenk.ellef...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 7 March,
Thank John
From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 22 December, 2016 19:00
To: James
Cc: Paul Norman; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Community Conduct
> no one maps Gatineau(seriously, maybe cause it's the French side?)
Tact my son tact, look the word up in
Well, only very large buildings can be found as polygons in the Canvec product.
Furthermore, NRCan did not update the Canvec buildings layer for more than 20
years (the oldest is 1944), with only a few exceptions…
Daniel
From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 22 October, 2016
Go with the recommended scheme as described on the wiki.
Daniel
From: Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org]
Sent: Monday, 17 October, 2016 23:53
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: [Talk-ca] Telenav mapping turn restrictions
Hi all,
I wanted to give you a heads up that my colleagues on the
n on TPM."
Then post that email everywhere and keep a paper copy safe somewhere.
Cheers,
Charles (I am an engineer and definitely not a lawyer.)
On 10/05/2016 10:08 AM, Begin Daniel wrote:
>
> I was looking at open data that are available in my neighbourhood and
> I found
I was looking at open data that are available in my neighbourhood and I found
interesting contents under CC-BY 4.0 license.
According to the above web site, the CC-BY 4.0 is not compatible with the OSM
license (ODbL) because the CC-BY 4.0 license "prohibits technical protection
measures while
Simply said,
Looks like the original ways were linked to other ones by someone from Telenav
(according to reasonable image interpretation) but they should not according to
actual feature on the ground. The user is asking the changeset to be reverted,
especially since the Bing imagery identified
Extent"
You will find 1:N timePosition values that describe how old the data are.
The same should apply for the other layers (NHN, NRWN...), even if the
distribution units may differ (whole country, watershed ...)
Daniel
-----Original Message-
From: Begin Daniel [mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com]
Sen
Bonjour Martijn
AFAIK, here is a summary about how old and accurate is Canvec/GeoBase.
Transport Layers?
The roads are updated every 1-2 years for most of the provinces, 5-10 for
others.
Railways were updated 4-5 years ago over all the Canadian landmass.
Other layers
Water features are 5-40+
Hum
First discussions about importing NRCan data can be find here...
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2008-November/000228.html
They are talking about importing GeoBase - which is exactly the same content
that is found in Canvec since Canvec is the merging of GeoBase
to delete something.
Daniel
From: Paul Ramsey [mailto:pram...@cleverelephant.ca]
Sent: Thursday, 1 September, 2016 13:05
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Forests/Land Use, was: Canvec reverts
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Begin Daniel
<jfd...@hotmail.c
] broken forests in eastern Canada
On 2016-09-01 09:05 AM, Begin Daniel wrote:
>
> - Run a better version of the preprocessor on the Canvec raw data and
> reimport them again? Not possible. Canvec data has been produced and
> renew between 2010 and 2012 by our national mapping a
Why don't we ... burn down all the forests (and the urban areas too)?
Been in Fort-McMurray lately? (Ok it is a bad joke)
Seriously, these discussions about what should be mapped or not, what is
valuable content or not are raging since the beginning of OSM. More recently,
discussions around the
I agree with you that Michael is forcing us to improve the quality of our data.
However, the way he is doing this also matters. Until we are convinced that he
will not delete what has been done over the years, this thread should keep
running. Then we will able to discuss about improving the
Few comments...
- The people how import the data should know how [multipolygon] work (), +1
- Run a better version of the preprocessor on the Canvec raw data and reimport
them again? Not possible. Canvec data has been produced and renew between 2010
and 2012 by our national mapping agency
...@gmx.net]
Sent: Thursday, 1 September, 2016 08:37
To: Begin Daniel; talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Reverts
Hi Daniel,
Am 2016-09-01 um 12:26 schrieb Begin Daniel:
> Furthermore, I hope you will not use you 100 objects per minute to
> decide whether or not you will
Thank for contacting the Canadian community Michael,
You provided us with a short but useful reminder of current rules we should
apply when importing data (or even just making standard edits).
However, I understand from your last paragraph that you will keep deleting
changesets. I was hoping
“Whats up with the forests in Canada?” A wiki page is a good idea!
And while talking about forest in eastern Canada…
It would be very helpful to have a plugin in JOSM that deals with Canvec
water/wooded area integration in multipolygon. I am not really a developer but
since the merging
on corresponding areas, but not sliver
between wetland-water-wooded areas. Which leave some errors most of the time.
Daniel
From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 August, 2016 21:04
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap; john whelan; Adam Martin
Subject: RE: [Talk-ca
No sarcasm at all, why?
Sorry you got that impression ☹
Daniel
From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 August, 2016 20:50
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap; john whelan; Adam Martin
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada
Not sure if you
Wow, same ideas, same concerns, provided independently...
That is cool!
Daniel
From: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 August, 2016 19:15
To: john whelan
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] broken forests in eastern Canada
I've contacted him as well.
I have contacted the user that is about/has deleted some changesets imported
from Canvec. I may agree on some of his comments but totally disagree on the
method he is using to make his point.
I do not know what the DWG will do about this guy but here is the message I
sent him...
Bonjour
Bon points Jean-Denis,
Les descriptions techniques aident souvent. Dans les cas où j’ai utilisé cette
source de données, elle référait souvent aux lotissements mais la carte des
lotissements (matrice graphique) ne peut être utilisée dans OSM (licences).
L’autorisation expresse du/des
Bonjour Antoine,
Pour ajouter aux commentaires d'Alan et d'Adam.
Pour ce qui est de la forêt...
Comparer la forêt US/Canada est un peu injuste. En général, la forêt n'est pas
cartographiée du côté US, et elle a été partiellement importée du côté canadien
- d'où les vides de forme
+1
From: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August, 2016 12:21
To: Stewart C. Russell
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap at the Crossroads – The Map Room
Wait! You mean a robot ... Made a mistake!!?? Say it ain't so!
Sarcasm aside,
Bonjour Dega,
Je ne suis pas certain de comprendre à quoi tu réfères lorsque tu parles d'un
mode additif pour les zones de forêt (natural=wood). Dans l'exemple que tu
donnes, il me semble que la forêt n'a simplement pas encore été captée !-)
On peut voir le captage de la forêt comme un captage
Whatever the tag or its value, we need it.
There are (unfortunately) plenty of such restrictions in my neighbourhood that
I never mapped because I did not know how to tag them.
Furthermore, and according to Wikipedia [1], there are whole cities where it
remains illegal to turn right on a red
Missing access=no and access=private tags I understand...
Daniel
-Original Message-
From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com]
Sent: June-24-16 22:45
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] aerial imagery for missing roads
On 2016-06-23 10:26 PM, Pierre Béland
Bonjour Claude,
Il y a bien une discussion sur la définition de ‘trunk’ pour laquelle il n’y a
toujours pas de consensus clair, mais il n’y a pas eu d’ambitieux projets de
redéfinition des routes discutée avec la communauté canadienne.
As-tu communiqué avec le/les auteurs de ces changements?
I did not find any buildings (except those from Canvec and GeoBase) in the
GCODP.
May Mojgan got it from somewhere else? …
Daniel
From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com]
Sent: May-05-16 14:04
To: Begin Daniel
Cc: James; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Fort McMurray forest
As far I can tell from the imagery available (Bing & Mapbox), the data from
Geobase & Canvec are not up-to-date, neither for roads nor for buildings, and I
do not see who in Ottawa could have them, StatCan?
Daniel
From: James [mailto:james2...@gmail.com]
Sent: May-05-16 12:42
To: john whelan
Comme pour toute la classification des routes/sentiers dans OSM, il y a une
gradation (à l’exception de trunk!-)
… path-footway-track…
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpath
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dfootway
Seems absolutely adequate.
From: Mojgan Jadidi [mailto:mojgan.jad...@gmail.com]
Sent: February-19-16 11:57
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-ca] Bulk Import of Address Range in GTHA from Metrolinx
Dear All,
Based on the discussion in our previous emails:
Cool!
-Original Message-
From: Stewart C. Russell [mailto:scr...@gmail.com]
Sent: February-10-16 08:58
To: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Talk-ca: Bulk Import of Address Range in GTHA from
Metrolinx, Second attemps
On 2016-02-09 09:24 AM, Begin Daniel wrote:
>
Mojgan wrote: “New detected address ranges are displayed onto 10 meter shifted
line of OSM road segment.”
For what it's worth…
when implementing the Karlsruhe schema in Canvec data, the interpolation lines
were located at 20 meters for tertiary and higher road classification, and 15
meters for
Hi Mojgan,
Here are few comments/questions I wish to add to Stewart comments.
1 - Stewart is right about questioning the StatsCan license...
Why don’t you use GeoBase data instead? As far as I remember, their license is
compatible with OSM and the Canvec road network (streets and address
Initial misunderstandings, emails round trips with the community… standard
communication process!
I do not know how others a seeing it, but reading about the process you use, I
do not see anything like a wild bulk import. At least, it is very similar to
the process I used when importing Canvec
Bonjour Ken,
You wrote “this level of confusion just encourages me to stop contributing” …
First, do not stop to contribute! There is so much fun to map about everything
in your neighbourhood, on thematic content (biking trails, national parks … and
so on)!
Secondly, the annual report you cite
Thank Andrew,
I should have confused Carleton Place with another area :-)
Daniel
From: Adam Martin [mailto:s.adam.mar...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-23-15 14:26
To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Unusual activity?
Agreed Andrew. Drawing in the land use ourselves takes more time, but
Hi all, I am a bit surprise when looking in this area...
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/45.1622/-76.2266
I am on the impression it used to look like the surrounding areas (Canvec
imports and other stuffs). No suspicious activity around there like massive
data deletion?
Daniel
Bonjour all,here is a link here that might be interesting for those of you that
are interested in legal matter concerning
datahttp://www.teresascassa.ca/index.php?option=com_k2view=itemid=124:federal-court-of-appeal-reminds-government-there-is-no-copyright-in-data
Daniel
Hi Richard
AFAIK the lane=* has never been used in Canvec. I know that the surface=unpaved
has been used in the Canvec product as unknown value but only in Quebec. Never
in other provinces.
Cheers
Daniel
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 16:50:37 -0500
From: rich...@weait.com
To:
Hi all!
What I've been told (safe source) about canvec/geobase data origine and
accuracy...
About 5% of the available datasets (usually populated area) have been produced
digitally and have an accuracy better then 25m.
So, almost every thing you'll find in canvec have been scanned from 50K
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