Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 06/12/2019 14:40, Tomek wrote: EN The problem is that the English imperialists want to impose their language on other nations; and do not understand (do not want to understand) how someone writes in a language other than English, is it so difficult to use Google / Yandex / Bing? Taking a

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 06/12/2019 15:10, Tomek wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277 W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze: EN Is this change acceptable and can I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265 Not yet.  Wait what people say in reply. I personally am not a fan of

Re: [Talk-GB] Elections Online website - candidate for OSM?

2019-12-03 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 03/12/2019 09:47, Edward Bainton wrote: Hi all General Elections Online  (hosted at parliament.uk ) have got a failed page where the Google map is overlaid with "Development purposes

Re: [talk-au] tagging of "demolished" roads

2019-11-26 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 26/11/2019 12:01, Ian Steer wrote: Nanga Rd in WA’s south west has been affected by bauxite mining and has been re-routed.  I’m hesitant to simply delete the old alignment, and am wondering whether there is an appropriate tag like “demolished=yes” to use on it instead ? Deleting the

Re: [OSM-talk] Metropolitan France : what todo with all "supossed to be wrong" name:xx ?

2019-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 19/11/2019 16:03, marc marc wrote: ... but the question arises as to what to do with the other names:xx : If you've got the time and the inclination, you could go through the history of the relation and comment in a changeset of everyone who's added a translation that might be wrong

Re: [Talk-GB] OSMF board election

2019-11-10 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 10/11/2019 10:26, Rob Nickerson wrote: Are there any questions that you want asking of the candidates for OSMF directorship? We have until 2019-11-13 00:01 UTC to submit these. (for completeness) List of candidates: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM19/Election_to_Board

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

2019-11-05 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 05/11/2019 22:51, Edward Bainton wrote: What do I do about a fixme on a relation? A bus route near me says fixme=check relation plus members - appears broken https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2580522#map=14/52.5823/-0.2418=N Presumably 'broken' means the route has gaps in it? On a

Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

2019-11-04 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 04/11/2019 18:19, Edward Bainton wrote: (much snippage) Sustrans appear to have moved the NCN routes off their own site altogether (perhaps not news to you), and link directly to osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/ncn . The behaviour is pretty horrible -

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

2019-11-02 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 22/10/2019 10:38, and...@black1.org.uk wrote: On 2019-10-21 11:26, Andy Townsend wrote: I don't have data for the whole UK, but do have numbers for "OSM notes" and "fixme tags" for a couple of areas going back at least a couple of years.  If people are interested I co

[talk-au] Fantasy mapping NE of Broken Hill

2019-11-01 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
Hi, An enthusiastic Russian person has been busy with fantasy edits NE of Broken Hill (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/76455814 etc.).  That account looks like it's related to a couple of others editing elsewhere, so it wouldn't surprise me if they pop up again as another name (which

Re: [Talk-GB] Zebra crossings being lost in iD - how to respond

2019-10-25 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 25/10/2019 11:43, Jez Nicholson wrote: +1 for a bot edit Perhaps Maproulette would be a better option?  Zebra markings would often be visible on aerial imagery, and a comparison of newer vs older imagery might allow people to identify recent changes*. Best Regards, Andy * Somewhat

Re: [Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

2019-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 21/10/2019 10:53, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 11:46 by bpran...@gmail.com: Hi everyone So  far according tothe taginfo script we've managed to ADD 415 fixmes and remove 84 FIXMEs. I don't have data yet on OSM Notes. Don't know what's going on here with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Should a deleted user's chainset list be removed?

2019-10-11 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 11/10/2019 10:44, Dave F via talk wrote: Hi I was in a conversation with a user who's account has since been deleted. ... When they were, I noticed a few dubious edits that I was planning to double check in case they required reverting/amending. Is there a way to see them? Via the

Re: [talk-au] Discussion K: Evaluation of ACT paths audit 2012 and the OSM ACT dataset

2019-10-08 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 08/10/2019 09:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 7 Oct 2019, 23:02 by talk-au@openstreetmap.org: "Community paths" (official term) are the most common path type in the ACT and correspond in the OSM ATG to the tagging: - highway=path - foot=designated - bicycle=designated -

Re: [talk-au] Undiscussed edits to Australian Tagging Guidelines on tagging footpaths/cycleways (Was: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-10-04 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 04/10/2019 12:46, Andrew Davidson wrote: I think at one point footway was assumed to be paved and path unpaved. I think that it's actually a bit more complicated than that.  The "standard" style on OpenStreetMap.org changed to displaying footway and path the same because it was clear

[talk-au] Mailing lists (was: Re: Discussion H: public transport – the end game)

2019-10-02 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 02/10/2019 08:19, Edoardo Neerhut wrote: it would make sense to limit his communications so we're not bombarded daily with his emails. At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious, one thing that it is perhaps worth mentioning is that in most mail clients it's perfectly possible to "file

Re: [Talk-GB] non-squared buildings

2019-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 30/09/2019 11:15, Jez Nicholson wrote: Some people seem quite animated about non-squared buildings in OSMcan anyone tell me why it matters so much? because 'accuracy'? A possible (slightly contentious) view might be that: * some people have been complaining about the quality of HOT

Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of way vs. tracks

2019-09-29 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 29/09/2019 19:37, Edward Bainton wrote: Do I mark a track, with all it's passability tags, and then tag horses & foot=designated? That acknowledges the track, but disregards the documentation here

[Talk-bo] Nuevos mapeadores en Bolivia

2019-09-29 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
. Atentamente, Andy Townsend, En nombre del Grupo de Trabajo de Datos de OSM. (que es una traducción automática de) Hello, Andy from OSM's Data Working Group here.  We've heard that in Bolivia you might occasionally have large numbers at of students mapping in OSM for short periods of time (perhaps

[talk-au] "designated" for foot and bicycle (was: Re: Discussion D: mapping ACT for cyclists – complying with ACT law)

2019-09-29 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 29/09/2019 11:34, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 28/9/19 8:55 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: If the way is specifically for a particular mode, then use mode=designated. So a shared cycle pedestrian path is foot=designated+bicycle=designated. Actually in Australia if a path is designated for bicycles

Re: [Talk-GB] Next quarters project will be fixmes and notes

2019-09-24 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 24/09/2019 13:24, Michael Booth wrote: Fixmes can only be viewed in iD or with a QA tool, while notes can be viewed on osm.org and StreetComplete which is useful for actually going out and surveying them. If you're a Garmin user you can use https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/Notes01 from

Re: [OSM-talk] MS GitHub? | Re: Tagging Governance

2019-09-12 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 12/09/2019 13:32, Valor Naram via talk wrote: Why would Markdown exclude a good number of otherwise capable contributors? Understandable for TeX and maybe Asciidoc (don't know) but for Markdown this cannot be true. If someone's less familiar with something, they're likely to volunteer to

[OSM-talk] Reports of FB problems to FB rather than to OSM (was: Attribution guideline status update)

2019-09-10 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 10/09/2019 17:40, Kathleen Lu via talk wrote: Not that I've heard (I don't think that was ever the case), but 1000s of notes about FB on OSM sounds terrible to me - they would only add noise for mappers who check notes for things to fix, and some editors show notes in the interface. My

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-09-09 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 10/09/2019 01:19, Nuno Caldeira wrote: oh good. strange that we still get email complains about Instagram users of their address being on OSM, when it's not.  so we have Facebook number, mind asking the number so we can call to ask to comply with the attribution? We (the DWG) certainly get

Re: [OSM-talk] bus stops signs in the usa.

2019-09-02 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 21:03, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: if the number is on the sign, and there is no tag for route # is that not the name which will show on the map ? Different maps show different information on bus stops.  As an example, here's how OSM's Transport Map displays two bus stops in

Re: [Talk-GB] Canoeing infrastructure/river features

2019-09-02 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 17:50, Edward Bainton wrote: Just a quick question: what sort of role should overpass turbo play in my researches on this topic (and on canoe portages especially)? I use it all the time when looking for things that people might have mapped using tags that I wasn't aware of.  In

Re: [Talk-GB] National Trust Paths organised edit page

2019-09-02 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 02/09/2019 16:57, Mark Goodge wrote: I'm a little puzzled by one of the lines on the permissions grid on that page. There's a line for "Legal RoW but access discouraged", with a suggested tagging of "discouraged/private" for pedestrians (and similar tags for other users). Quite apart

Re: [Talk-it] jeep abbandonata

2019-09-01 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
It's looks a bit like a series 2 or 2 short wheelbase Landrover, but it might be a "home made" conversion of something else made to look like one - the wooden rear top and the "suicide" doors look very home made.  It's likely that several other cars (and possibly a garden shed) contributed

Re: [Talk-GB] OSMTracker for Android - detailed survey of paths & tracks layout

2019-08-17 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
> Why on earth are there 2 versions of OSMTracker for Android on the Play store?! It's open source software, so it's fairly technically straightforward to "clone, modify and resubmit".  What restrictions Google put on this sort of thing currently I don't know, but I suspect they're mostly limited

Re: [Talk-GB] Rowmaps importing in South Gloucestershire

2019-08-09 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
There are certainly places where the rights-of-way as signed don't match what appears on e.g. OS Landranger - I was in one south of York just a couple of days ago. There in fact the OS data (including OS Opendata / older OS maps which have been traced into OSM) doesn't match what's on the

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-26 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 26/07/2019 11:54, Mike N wrote: On 7/26/2019 4:34 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: The corporate appropriation of OpenStreetMap I'm not a corporate wonk, but I'll note that in my region, "Amazon Logistics" is effectively solving the Last Mile Mapping problem: how to include driveways into

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default

2019-07-26 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 26/07/2019 13:28, David Woolley wrote: On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen Colebourne wrote: unless there is an explicit "private" sign There is no legal need for "private" signs.  The default assumption should be that everything is private ... in England and Wales.  Scotland is somewhat more

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-24 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 24/07/2019 22:15, john whelan wrote: Could someone clarify with the BBC to describe the process and emphasize the community aspect of OSM. Yes - you can do that yourself at http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complain-online/ , or maybe try the link from

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

2019-07-24 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 24/07/2019 20:56, John Whelan wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-49091093 I note "Martijn van Exel" is quoted. I'm sure if the BBC wanted to do some actual journalism they could ask some OSM contributors in Thailand what their view was (see e.g.

Re: [Talk-GB] Newish user causing damage-...

2019-07-21 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
18:10, Colin Smale wrote: Thanks Phil. On 2019-06-23 18:59, Philip Barnes wrote: On Sun, 2019-06-23 at 16:50 +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/2922 (apologies for terseness - sending from pub beer garden) Thank you Andy. I have reverted this, I had

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-17 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 17/07/2019 16:40, Martin Trautmann wrote: I recently uploaded some notes from osmand+ to openstreetmap, but did not see them first. I now learned how to activate the notes layer both for openstreetmap and its editor. But I would prefer that notes would be added to my personal profile in

Re: [Talk-GB] ITOworld maps

2019-07-13 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 13/07/2019 15:33, Brian Prangle wrote: ITOworld  maps which showed a huge variety of visualisations of OSM data seems to have gone offline. Hi Brian, I suspect that many (most?) of the visualisations that ITO used to provide could be done with Overpass / Overpass turbo (even as far as

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Downloading OSM slippy map tiles

2019-07-07 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 07/07/2019 19:26, Iain Simpson wrote: I've just tried to run it again and it fails with 'urllib.error.HTTPError: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden' I assume that the OSM access methods/conditions have changed. Can anyone suggest where to look or who to contact ? My guess is that you're using http

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

2019-07-05 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 05/07/2019 13:19, Silent Spike wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:02 PM Gareth L > wrote: Forgive me if this is silly question/statement, but the adj/alt names etc are in the naptan dataset. Wouldn’t it be better to have the link made between the stop in OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

2019-07-04 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 04/07/2019 16:39, Martin Wynne wrote: In rural areas there are many places where buses are timetabled to stop but where there is nothing physical -- no signpost or shelter. Are these highway=bus_stop in OSM? (following a previous discussion on this list) I've used "physically_present=no"

Re: [Talk-it] Source dubbio

2019-07-04 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
ho perso? I migliori saluti, Andy On 25/06/2019 18:54, Andy Townsend wrote: On 25/06/2019 18:23, canfe wrote: After the numerous reverts of the changeset of /fabiopartinaro /many "orphan" points have remained on the map. Like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/646385

Re: [OSM-talk] landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

2019-06-29 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
Usually I'm the one wringing my hands and plaintively saying "won't someone think of the data consumers?". In this case though anyone who's not looking for "natural=water; water=blah" (as well as any other options) really is doing it wrong - people have been using that scheme for years. Best

Re: [talk-ph] Potentially problematic edits

2019-06-27 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 27/06/2019 15:41, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Thank you for this notice. I have reverted the changeset you mentioned. While I am a bit too far away to confirm on-the-ground, I have tried to confirm or research online any news about any supposed "future expansion" of the shopping mall

Re: [talk-ph] Potentially problematic edits

2019-06-27 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 27/06/2019 15:18, maning sambale wrote: Yes we aware of this issue, we are tracking it here: https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix/issues/50 Thanks.  It'd be good if there was a link to that from changeset discussions rather than just a hashtag :) Does this need me to revert this change

[talk-ph] Potentially problematic edits

2019-06-27 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
likely, have created another sock-puppet account that hasn't been noticed yet). Various people within the community have reverted previous edits in the past; just checking whether this one needed to be done too. Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group

Re: [Talk-it] Source dubbio

2019-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 25/06/2019 18:23, canfe wrote: After the numerous reverts of the changeset of /fabiopartinaro /many "orphan" points have remained on the map. Like this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6463853688 Can't they be removed with an automatic procedure like the revert? The revert isn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Newish user causing damage-...

2019-06-23 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/2922(apologies for terseness - sending from pub beer garden)

Re: [Talk-it] Source dubbio

2019-06-20 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 14/06/2019 16:40, Andrea Musuruane wrote: Hi Andy, ... It is my understanding local mappers waited for the revert. They didn't try to correct issues or build upon these data. Thanks for that - as there haven't been any other replies I'll have a look at starting a revert soon.  We'll then

Re: [OSM-talk] Which global OSM mailing list for the "community index"?

2019-06-20 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 20/06/2019 11:46, Mike N wrote: On 6/20/2019 5:58 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Clearly one of the global mailing lists is missing here;   Forum.openstreetmap.org "talk" probably gets more pairs of eyes on it than the Q subforum https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=10 (which is

Re: [Talk-us] Need someone in the south to review an edit

2019-06-14 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 14/06/2019 16:56, Paul Johnson wrote: Aaah, OK.  Would have been nice if Brandify Tran replied to changeset comments. With a DWG hat on I'll send them a "message that they have to read before continuing to edit" and ask them to check their registered email account. Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-it] Source dubbio

2019-06-13 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 07/06/2019 21:55, Andy Townsend wrote: On 23/05/2019 10:19, Ivo Reano wrote: Nessuna novità? Ho un sacco di survey da inserire, ma mi trovo continuamente con cose che potrebbero essere revertate... ... The feedback that I've had so far is in favour of reverting this imported data

Re: [Talk-it] Source dubbio

2019-06-07 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
a licence other than CC-BY-4.0 which might be compatible with OSM. Is there anything else that I need to know about this? Best Regards, Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group. (traduzione automatica) Ciao, Andy dal DWG qui. Ci scusiamo per il ritardo nell'ottenere questo

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

2019-06-01 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 01/06/2019 13:55, Michael Collinson wrote: ... I tried, then going out to "just verify" and found that I was hopelessly inaccurate. It defeats the point, to get a highly accurate localised network for folks who might depend on it. I did something similar on the dev server a while back

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

2019-06-01 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 01/06/2019 11:11, Jez Nicholson wrote: Brighton has also just gained a sidewalk https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/JAn which i'm not overly impressed withor am I being a Luddite? I personally wouldn't map sidewalks in a dense UK city like that (though some people do, with the intention of

Re: [OSM-talk] How to Translate Strings in OSM to other languages

2019-05-31 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 31/05/2019 15:14, Shrinivasan T wrote: We need a similar map in Tamil Language. You probably don't need to translate anything.  What you see on one OSM-based map is only a tiny subset of the data in OSM.  Here, for example, is the information stored against one place in that area:

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

2019-05-27 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 27/05/2019 12:08, Jo wrote: And the disease is spreading: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Jnd I'm scared. This needs to be mitigated, but indeed, how? Suggestions about tag improvements by an editor are not a new thing - JOSM has had them for ages.  Occasionally there are examples of people

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmland (crop or animals)?

2019-05-24 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 24/05/2019 10:43, Gregory Marler wrote: What is going on with landuse=farmland, and what are we going to do? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland With regard to tagging, I agree with a lot of what you say there, but I suspect that the first thing to do is to talk to

Re: [Talk-GB] Déjà vu

2019-05-23 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 23/05/2019 12:40, Gareth L wrote: Ive used http://overpass-api.de/achavi/ for this, if there is no trace of the element. Not so good on mobile. Another overpass option is to search on a particular date, for example: [date:"2018-09-04T00:00:00Z"]; node({{bbox}}); out geom; (that's saved

Re: [Talk-it] Tag presenti in Italia

2019-05-09 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 09/05/2019 08:45, Ale_Zena_IT via Talk-it wrote: In questo periodo per lavoro stò scremando i tag del planet ed ho trovato veramente di tutto. Se aprite taginfo scoprite che su OSM sono presenti oltre 74.000 chiavi. There are taginfo sites for many countries at

Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag this?

2019-05-08 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 08/05/2019 12:27, Martin Wynne wrote: How should I tag this? It's a former phone box in use to advertise the attractions of the local pub. I don't know if it was done by the pub, or by the local community. Possibly it's a community-run pub. It's a bit of a stretch, but perhaps some kind

Re: [Talk-GB] What is a residential area?

2019-05-08 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 08/05/2019 02:18, seirra blake wrote: is there any articles on what does/doesn't get used on particular zoom levels? just figure it wouldn't hurt to double check my general understanding This cropped up on the forum recently - see

Re: [talk-au] User Diaries Spam

2019-05-07 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 07/05/2019 10:38, Simon Poole wrote: ... (and the admins need to be available). That's the key bit, I think, and that's likely to be when the admins are awake (i.e. some hours after the people on this list are). Beyond that (at the risk of stating the bleeding obvious), maybe try

Re: [Talk-us] Parks in the USA, leisure=park, park:type

2019-04-29 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 29/04/2019 17:04, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 29 Apr 2019, 17:36 by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com: On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 11:24 AM Mateusz Konieczny mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> wrote: Why not simply call anything which is a 'large public area for recreation', a park,

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 27/04/2019 18:10, Martin Wynne wrote: barrier=stile seems unhelpful to me if rendered as a normal stile symbol, for walkers needing to know if they will have to climb any. I'd use a "step_count" tag for how many steps there are ("steps" has also been used, often by me, but is probably less

Re: [Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

2019-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 27/04/2019 17:50, Philip Barnes wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_details 4000 of those: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/stile#values However also from that page I'm now wondering what "stile=hipster" (!) is? Best Regards, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] iD influencing tagging

2019-04-07 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 07/04/2019 23:37, john whelan wrote: > Developing an editor requires making decisions and having opinions on OSM tagging. This in turn means getting it wrong sometimes. ... With something like iD spoon feeding new mappers with suggested presets the impact is much greater if something isn't

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of amenity=university within the University of Cambridge

2019-04-07 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 07/04/2019 12:28, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: I've noticed that there are rather a lot of amenity=university objects in Cambridge,... What do other people think? Could we get an agreement to at least remove the amenity=university tags from buildings etc within each larger university

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

2019-04-04 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2019 11:05, Philip Barnes wrote: I believe they were the zones covered by plusbus tickets. I believe (and Stuart will know far more about this than me!) they predate the widescale adoption of PlusBus in the UK. Certainly when PlusBus was introduced in Chesterfield it didn't match the

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

2019-04-04 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2019 10:48, Stuart Reynolds wrote: What do you mean by “pay scale”? Are you meaning the definition of a stop as a fare stage, or as part of a zone? Example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38387740 (that's one that I haven't deleted yet) Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Removal of redundant NaPTAN data

2019-04-04 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 04/04/2019 09:38, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone Back in the day of the original NapPTAN import we imported pay scale areas - tagged as public_transport=pay_scale_area. I don't know why we ever did this - there's no evidence on the ground and it's highly unlikely that any OSM data

Re: [Talk-it] R: Tag place

2019-03-28 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 19/03/2019 15:43, Andrea Musuruane wrote: I'm happy with the editing done but I cannot comment on the following places which are still not reverted: Cannobio Canosa di Puglia Carbonia Casarano Chiusa Figline Valdarno Incisa in Val d'Arno Lana Nuoro Oristano Ortisei Ponte nelle Alpi

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of osmarender:nameDirection - blatant tagging for the renderer

2019-03-23 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 3/23/19 11:46 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: Mar 23, 2019, 9:59 AM by si...@poole.ch: ...  Producing false updates (aka no real content) just obscures that fact and makes it more difficult to determine which areas need to be revisted. It seems to me as not a real problem.

Re: [Talk-GB] Milton Keynes Redways - How to Tag Consistently

2019-03-21 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 21/03/2019 13:35, Ed Loach wrote: How tagging changes over time... RichardF wrote: highway=cycleway, segregated=no achieves all that in two tags rather than seven. :) I remember https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Milton_Keynes_Mapping_Party_2009 where it looks like we (or at least I) only

Re: [Talk-us] US map rendering (Was: Re: Spot elevations collected as natural=peak and name=Point (height in feet))

2019-03-21 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 21/03/2019 07:13, Paul Norman via Talk-us wrote: As a maintainer of some of the projects listed, I find that you're misrepresenting the situation. On 2019-03-08 11:25 a.m., Kevin Kenny wrote: I've sounded out the maintainers of various of the OSM software, and get different assessments.

Re: [Talk-GB] Invalid building levels and building (part) height license compatibility

2019-03-18 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 18/03/2019 23:41, Warin wrote: For a chimney that is surrounded by a building  I used the shadow of the chimney vs the shadow of the building. That may be more feasible more of the time where you live than where I do! Best Regards, Andy ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Invalid building levels and building (part) height license compatibility

2019-03-18 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 18/03/2019 21:05, Neil Matthews wrote: P.S. Any suggestions  on how I can measure buildings "on-foot" greatly apreciated... If you can't get hold of one of these*: https://www.aols.org/archives/historical-artifacts?page=13 , and if you're after the heights of large buildings in a city

[Talk-GB] "UK-centric" OSM-based maps (was: Common Land has stopped rendering)

2019-03-18 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 18/03/2019 13:06, John Aldridge wrote: There should, IMO, be a general purpose UK styled rendering on the front page of https://osmuk.org/ There is/was a discussion about a "UK-centric" map for OSM UK, some of which was below

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 18:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Are there any data users who use 'highway=footway;foot=yes' to distinguish from other footways? Sort-of - depending on other tags https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html can display things differently based on that, but it'd be a

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-15 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 19:21, Martin Wynne wrote: To my mind: highway=footway means a narrow smooth physical object capable of being walked along in safety. It's entirely reasonable to think "to my mind X means ..." but when tagging thing in OSM it makes sense to try and match the approach of

Re: [Talk-ca] Saints in street names in Ontario

2019-03-15 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 15/03/2019 16:58, Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca wrote: The word is definitely Saint. St is a contraction and neither proper English or French. I can't comment about Canadian English, but "St" in a placename in British English is perfectly OK - St Albans is correct; "Saint Albans" is not.

Re: [Talk-it] R: Tag place

2019-03-15 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 24/02/2019 12:11, Andy Townsend wrote: On 23/02/2019 22:39, mbranco2 wrote: A me basta la disponibilità di Fayor a rimuovere manualmente le sue modifiche, quindi dico di non fare il revert. OK - we'll wait a bit and give him time to do that. ("OK - aspettiamo un po 'e dargli il tem

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-14 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 14/03/2019 15:55, Martin Wynne wrote: ... . Do you mean wheel ruts, footprints? I really, really wouldn't worry about it.  There are always edge cases - just pick whatever seems most appropriate to you.  You've been there, other people haven't been, and while a photo is useful it's only

Re: [Talk-GB] Lake District NationalPark

2019-03-14 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 13/03/2019 21:28, Paul Berry wrote: Relation looks OK to me but I can't see the name at any zoom level: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/287917 Looks OK at https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=8=54.228=-2.569 , so I guess OSM's renderer will catch up. Best Regards,

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of Argos stores

2019-03-10 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 10/03/2019 14:58, Donald Noble wrote: I had a quick look, and Argos stores in the UK seem to be tagged in multiple ways ... Hi Donald, Here's shop tag usage globally: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/shop#values and in the UK:

Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

2019-03-08 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 07/03/2019 13:56, Gregory Marler wrote: 1) Can you elaborate on the source(s) of suspected road names? 2) It would helpful if each of us could look at your list in a more localised aspect. Either including county would be more helpful, or at least having latitude and longitude in separate

[Talk-GB] StreetComplete (was: Marking closed businesses)

2019-03-07 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 07/03/2019 10:22, David Woolley wrote: On 07/03/2019 09:47, Jon Spriggs wrote: As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it worth asking the Street Complete developers to add information about businesses to their collection data, if they aren't already? I've never

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

2019-03-05 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
> but it's a rare bridleway that is only wide enough for a horse, As DaveF has already suggested, I suspect that's hugely geographically variable - I can think of a few examples in Derbyshire, Notts and Yorkshire where "public bridleways" couldn't accommodate a horse, unless it wasn't much

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-05 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
 > tell me which sidewalks need to be mapped (because they are separate geometries, I mean highway=footway, footway=sidewalk) in Graz, Austria Locally I'd do that

Re: [OSM-talk] Windows, end users and OpenStreetMap suggestions please

2019-03-05 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
If you're looking for something offline, then one of the Garmin options might work.  Whilst they're primarily designed to complement Garmin devices (handholds, satnavs, etc.) you could just use them standalone, load OSM data in and just search for stuff.There are plenty of Garmin /GPS forums on

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-03 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 03/03/2019 18:43, Nick Bolten wrote: As I mentioned, I'm aware of hacks regarding sidewalks I wouldn't describe sidewalk=none as a hack - speaking as someone who walks a lot, any verifiable tag that says "you're allowed to, but you probably don't want to walk down this road" is really

Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

2019-03-03 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 03/03/2019 16:09, Richard Welty wrote: what can/should we be doing about this sort of stuff? i'm really at a bit of a loss here. Aside from the excellent technical suggestion that's already been made, I'd suggest a polite changeset discussion comment, explaining that the imagery that

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2019 14:29, Bryce Jasmer wrote: In that situation, the admin wouldn’t redirect all of their traffic to their test site with a potentially broken cert. I've seen exactly that happen a number of times... Best Regards, Andy ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-02-26 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 26/02/2019 12:34, Bryce Jasmer wrote: Correct. No change will be made on anything other than the most straightforward of redirects. So even http://example.com -> https://example.com/home.aspx will be ignored. What about certificate checking? Suppose someone primarily uses http:// for

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

2019-02-25 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 25/02/2019 09:37, Christoph Hormann wrote: ... There are several ethical concerns that motivate me here - the one that is easiest to understand is probably that allowing bots would create a two class system within the OSM community on the wiki - those who are able to develop and run bots

Re: [Talk-GB] BT phoneboxes

2019-02-25 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 25/02/2019 10:09, Brian Prangle wrote: I've tagged a couple with amenity=telephone, advertising=screen, wifi=free, device_charging=usb, operator=InLink BT If those take off I'll try and add another telephone variant to

Re: [Talk-it] R: Tag place

2019-02-24 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 23/02/2019 22:39, mbranco2 wrote: A me basta la disponibilità di Fayor a rimuovere manualmente le sue modifiche, quindi dico di non fare il revert. OK - we'll wait a bit and give him time to do that. ("OK - aspettiamo un po 'e dargli il tempo di farlo.") Best Regards, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] DoBIH Update - Permission Received

2019-02-23 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 23/02/2019 23:04, Adam Snape wrote: Most of the heights should be derivable from OS Open Data mapping layers ... or from out of copyright OS data.  Hills don't change their height much over a human timescale. Best Regards, Andy ___ Talk-GB

Re: [Talk-it] Tag place

2019-02-23 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 17/02/2019 11:37, Andrea Musuruane wrote: These two changesets definitely need to be reverted: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/66616609 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/66616779 Thanks.I've followed the discussion (by automatic translation) for the last few days and it does

Re: [Talk-it] Tag place

2019-02-16 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
che devono essere ripristinate. I migliori saluti, Andy Townsend, a nome del Data Working Group di OSM ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-us] Fixing road network in New York — MapRoulette challenge

2019-02-13 Diskussionsfäden Andy Townsend
On 11/02/2019 13:01, Jmapb wrote: On 2/9/2019 9:30 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote: Yesterday I took ~1 mln rides we made in December and matched them to the OSM road network. With that I found a few hundred points where an actual trace diverged from the matched one quite often. This usually means a

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