Re: [OSM-talk] How do I turn JOSM's tiger:reviewed=no highlight off?

2010-08-02 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Sebastian Klein wrote: Nathan Edgars II wrote: If a way is tagged tiger:reviewed=no, JOSM puts a highlight behind it, and when you select it the red is a lot fatter. How do I disable this? You can put color.mappaint.standard.tiger_data=#80808000 in your advanced preferences

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I turn JOSM's tiger:reviewed=no highlight off?

2010-08-02 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Sebastian Klein wrote: There seems to be a general user interface problem here, as you are not the first having trouble with loading custom styles. To avoid noise on this list, we can try to resolve it on josm trac. Please add Help-status report to the ticket. I created a ticket -

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:36 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Also note that once there's a photo on flickr that is tagged with an osm object id and a foursquare.com venue id at the same time, you have a link between OSM and foursquare.com, no need to duplicate this information

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2010 00:50, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:36 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: Also note that once there's a photo on flickr that is tagged with an osm

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:28 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2010 02:24, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2010 00:50, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:40 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: So are you saying you or someone else will be checking all TLIDs against the TIGER data and correcting errors and adding missing ones? I can imagine someone making some clever scripts and then manually verifying it

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 10:15 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2010 04:06, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 9:40 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: I can imagine someone making some clever scripts and then manually

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, McGuire, Matthew matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote: Can you show me an area of the US that's tagged completely objectively? For example: Interstate 99 near Altoona, PA is coded (AFAIK appropriately) a motorway. Over the entire length of the Interstate, it

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Jim McAndrew j...@loc8.us wrote: I-99 is a special case where a congressman wanted a road to go from the PA turnpike to I-80, he threw a bunch of money at it, and made up a new number to assign to it. The road never really was meant to be an interstate, and I

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's pretty much covered here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Functional_Classification_System And it's not polished enough in many areas (the individual states or even the local metropolitan

Re: [Talk-us] Removing tiger:* tags

2010-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 3:33 PM, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: The only tiger tag that is important to keep (to me) is the tiger:tlid, all the other values can be pulled from the original TIGER database provided the

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-28 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:01 AM, McGuire, Matthew matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote: What you mean is that it can transcend usefulness and become a sea of unclassified roads. Gotcha. Your usefulness my usefulness. Therefore, I'm advocating objectivity vs subjectivity. Can you show me

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org wrote

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:24 AM, McGuire, Matthew matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote: This looks like coding for the map rather than mapping

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is that the European community has decided that the highway tags are shorthand for physical qualities that usually only exist

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-26 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org wrote: Roadway classification in the United States is subjective, there is no getting around that fact. No amount of discussion is going to fix that. Guidelines which only focus on each road separably without considering

Re: [Talk-us] United States Roadway Classification Guidelines

2010-07-26 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kevin Atkinson ke...@atkinson.dhs.org wrote: Roadway classification in the United States is subjective, there is no getting around that fact. No amount of discussion is going to fix that.

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: * Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com [2010-07-09 16:19 -0500]: Also, I see they are rendering highway shields. Didn't I see a big discussion about that here recently? :) Wonder if they are using the route relations to render

Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OSM-talk] Mapquest launches site based on OSM!

2010-07-19 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: The trunk issue is just a matter of selecting one level in the road-priority hierarchy. Being off by one is not the end of the world. Get the verifiable parameters right, name, surface, one way, single or dual

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
SteveC-2 wrote: And I'll try to imagine your parents basement where you toil endlessly on such counts. Steve stevecoast.com If this is how the OSMF board conducts themselves, perhaps it's best to give them as little power as possible over the data and its license. -- View this

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-18 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:22 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 July 2010 12:07, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: If this is how the OSMF board conducts themselves, perhaps it's best to give them as little power as possible over the data and its license. Just

Re: [OSM-talk] What could we do to make this licences discussion more inclusive?

2010-07-16 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Heiko Jacobs-2 wrote: But I don't will accept any data loss because only of legal reasons. Wikipedia and other projects changed licence without any loss of data. Unfortunately Wikipedia took advantage of a loophole: contributors agreed to the current GFDL or any later version, and they

[OSM-talk] help.osm.org still buggy

2010-07-13 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
I posted a question: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/153/how-do-you-tell-if-a-minor-service-road-is-accessprivate-destination-or-permissive But I can't view it. Apparently others have been able to respond and downvote it, but when I go to the above URL I get: 500 Server Error sorry,

[OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch

2010-07-12 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Peter Herison wrote: Does anyone encounter errors loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch? I'm not getting them at all; I reopened http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2950. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection

2010-07-11 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Maarten Deen wrote: John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2010 06:43, Chris Dombroski cdombroski+osm at icanttype.org wrote: I ask because I think this is the cause of stupid GPS directions at times make a left, followed by a slight right Isn't that a problem with the routing software, not the data?

[OSM-talk] Area-type objects and ways along its boundaries

2010-07-06 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Pieren wrote: You missunderstood : the definition of the border IS the middle of the road It may be the middle of the road *as it existed when the border was defined*. It's usually not the middle of the road as it exists now, unless there have been no changes, however slight, to the road

[OSM-talk] Area-type objects and ways along its boundaries

2010-07-05 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Ed Avis wrote: Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com writes: Depends what the way is. If it's a street, the area most likely stops at the right-of-way line, and does not extend to the middle of the street, so it would be incorrect to extend the area into the street. On the other hand, if it's

[OSM-talk] correcting/helping inexperienced mappers

2010-07-03 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Pieren wrote: I don't understand you. If they don't follow and don't cross, then you don't have duplicate nodes anyway... The TIGER import has numerous topological errors, including many highways crossing boundaries when they really don't (due to one or both being in the wrong position). TIGER

[OSM-talk] Wiki page on links

2010-07-02 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
I've written a summary of the recent mailing list discussions on links: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Link Please discuss on its talk page. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] correcting/helping inexperienced mappers

2010-07-02 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Joseph Reeves wrote: On 2 July 2010 12:41, Maarten Deen mdeen at xs4all.nl wrote: - show them keepright.ipax.at And http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/dupe_nodes/ God no. Not until it distinguishes between bad dupes (highway-highway at county lines, to use a US example) and OK dupes

Re: [OSM-talk] correcting/helping inexperienced mappers

2010-07-02 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: God no. Not until it distinguishes between bad dupes (highway-highway at county lines, to use a US example) and OK dupes (highway-boundary). Ok dupes do

[OSM-talk] Rendering street names across several ways

2010-07-01 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Steve Bennett wrote: Definitely. I would go so far as to say that two connected ways should render identically to if they were a single way, except for the actual differences in tags between them. Not quite. Where a dual carriageway becomes a single carriageway, this would wrap the name around

Re: [OSM-talk] wiki down ?

2010-06-28 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
colliar wrote: I can not get onto any wiki page. Any problems ? It's down, and there also seems to be a problem with generating new Mapnik tiles, for instance here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.3454lon=-75.9435zoom=12layers=B000FTF This also affects downloading in JOSM - you can download

Re: [OSM-talk] wiki down ?

2010-06-28 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: colliar wrote: I can not get onto any wiki page. Any problems ? It's down, and there also seems to be a problem with generating new Mapnik tiles, for instance here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.3454lon

Re: [Talk-us] Untagged and unconnected nodes

2010-06-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: A bug of some kind has caused there to be untagged, unconnected nodes to be present, usually in the area and shape of an existing way

[OSM-talk] How is it that a way is deleted but doesn't show up for undeletion? (horribly screwed up area in northern Pennsylvania)

2010-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.73928lon=-79.88822zoom=15layers=B000FTF All around here there are missing ways. I can't tell exactly what happened, but edits such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3128411 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3125973 (done at about

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] How is it that a way is deleted but doesn't show up for undeletion? (horribly screwed up area in northern Pennsylvania)

2010-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe better to revert these whole changesets. No can do - I don't have the programming skills to handle a revert, and JOSM's changeset manager doesn't seem to be able to do it. This can be tricky if people have

[Talk-us] How is it that a way is deleted but doesn't show up for undeletion? (horribly screwed up area in northern Pennsylvania)

2010-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.73928lon=-79.88822zoom=15layers=B000FTF All around here there are missing ways. I can't tell exactly what happened, but edits such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3128411 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3125973 (done at about

Re: [Talk-us] How is it that a way is deleted but doesn't show up for undeletion? (horribly screwed up area in northern Pennsylvania)

2010-06-25 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe better to revert these whole changesets. No can do - I don't have the programming skills to handle a revert, and JOSM's changeset manager doesn't seem to be able to do it. This can be tricky if people have

Re: [Talk-us] County lines vs. TIGER roads

2010-06-23 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way that we could get higher resolution county line boundaries from anywhere? I expect not, but I figured I'd ask. I'll plan to continue to correct these manually. The TIGER county boundaries should be better

[OSM-talk] Changed highway=*_link meaning?!

2010-06-22 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
David Paleino wrote: Hello people, does someone know the reasoning behind: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:highwaydiff=490719oldid=485601 ? Looking through his recent edits, I see

Re: [Talk-us] Untagged and unconnected nodes

2010-06-22 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: A bug of some kind has caused there to be untagged, unconnected nodes to be present, usually in the area and shape of an existing way, as though it was deleted and added again in a slightly different place, but only

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-16 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: Do you mind posting your standard for discussion and then we should discuss and agree on something easy to map and easy to ise by rendering, Garmin maps, other navi systems and update the wiki. Changing existing

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-16 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i think the rendered pseudo-shields probably need to show some reference to the network the highway is in, otherwise you'd not know what kind

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
(sorry about the dupe - forgot to reply to all) On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: How consistent are the US route relations? Should the relations with network information in the

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: In Ohio: * Route relation tagging consistently is as described by the wiki (with the exception of no clear agreement between network=US and network=US:US) * Interstate route relations offer nearly complete coverage *

Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking

2010-06-15 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:09 PM, vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010 9:02pm, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Actually all mainline (unbannered) U.S. Route relations are complete It's been a while since I've done a lot of route relation work, so I haven't really seen

[Talk-us] Best sources for boundary lines?

2010-06-14 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
(note: I'm talking about boundaries that have stayed in the same place during recent times, not those that change every year by annexations.) While the TIGER data is pretty good for these boundaries, it has some precision issues. For example, at

[OSM-talk] How do you tag a traffic signal that's also a motorway junction?

2010-06-10 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
highway=motorway_junction with ref=[number] is used whenever there's an exit/junction number, whether or not it's actually on a motorway. But there are some numbered exits that are right at traffic signals, which should be tagged highway=traffic_signals. Examples include

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you tag a traffic signal that's also a motorway junction?

2010-06-10 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Well it can't be highway=motorway_junction because motorways don't have level crossings, right? If this were a motorway_junction (it isn't) the exit number would be in the ref tag on the exit node, so go with that. In

[Talk-us] Census designated place boundaries: should we care about them?

2010-06-10 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Usually a CDP is simply an arbitrary area drawn by the Census Bureau for statistical purposes. Does it sound reasonable that these should at least not be treated as ordinary boundaries, if not (carefully) deleted altogether where not based on actual administrative boundaries?

Re: [Talk-us] Census designated place boundaries: should we care about them?

2010-06-10 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Usually a CDP is simply an arbitrary area drawn by the Census Bureau for statistical purposes. Does it sound reasonable that these should

[OSM-talk] Tagging wide steps (tribune / terrace)

2010-06-05 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Alexander Menk wrote: is there any better way for mapping very wide steps (100 m, half circle) instead of putting lots of steps next to each other. highway=steps area=yes? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
John Smith wrote: If you wanted something more definite, police injury records could provide alternative verifiability, if as John pointed out 5 people were hurt or killed trying to cross a road than it's obviously not safe. Only if you do the same for other vehicles - highway with lots of crashes

Re: [OSM-talk] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-06-02 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: As others have said, foot=no when pedestrians are legally allowed is a bad idea. As long as you walk against traffic, drivers will usually see you

[OSM-talk] Cloudmade routing issue

2010-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
I know this isn't the Cloudmade list, but a recent thread here got some results. I used the feedback link but never got a response. If you go to

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: In any case, more important than the etymology of the phrase map what's on the ground is what it means and whether or not it's good advice. In terms of its use in excluding verifiable information I think it is quite problematic.

[OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
John F. Eldredge wrote: From: Nathan Edgars II In other words, if we know for sure that Long Street is officially the A1889, it might make sense as a separate ref_unmarked=A1889 tag, like old_ref=A1, but using the same tagging for signed and unsigned routes helps nobody. It is not unusual

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
(sorry about the duplicate, Anthony; I forgot to send to all) On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: In other words, if we know for sure that Long Street is officially the A1889, it might make

[OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-05-29 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Right now, the only mention of the on the ground rule on the wiki is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes#On_the_Ground_Rule Should a separate page be created about how it applies more generally? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-us] Tagging of county roads

2010-05-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
The 'parentheses' idea for tagging county roads would be mine. I used it in New Jersey, and then I applied it to county highways when doing fixup in Florida. For some strange reason, NE2 liked my system so much that he used it to tag county roads wherever he edited (including the whole of

[Talk-us] Changeset to revert (or defend?)

2010-05-25 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Frederik Ramm wrote: I think it's quite easy. If NE2 has been there to inspect the individual intersection he has been changing, or at least thoroughly studied aerial imagery or so for this particular intersection, then his idea of how it should be tagged is as legit as someone else's and the

[Talk-us] Abandoned Railroads

2010-05-24 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Eric Christensen wrote: The existing maps show abandoned railroad tracks in the area. That must have been some time ago as there are no traces of these tracks left. At what point do we remove those from the maps or should we keep them there indefinitely? railway=abandoned is, like old_ref and

[Talk-us] Changeset to revert (or defend?)

2010-05-24 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
I'll repeat what I told him through the OSM messaging system: First of all, how did you determine that these features were in fact ground-level? Many times when I set layer=-1 on something it's at least a few feet below the surrounding terrain, if not more. That's still ground-level. Look

Re: [OSM-talk] Any way to recover these Potlatch changes?

2010-05-21 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Nathan Edgars II schrieb: A couple hours ago I made a bunch of edits in Potlatch and saved. While editing the loading from the API was intermittent, and this continued during the saving. I canceled the save and tried

[OSM-talk] Any way to recover these Potlatch changes?

2010-05-20 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
A couple hours ago I made a bunch of edits in Potlatch and saved. While editing the loading from the API was intermittent, and this continued during the saving. I canceled the save and tried again, and now it refuses to save or load anything. I also can't access any pages on openstreetmap.org.

[Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-05-18 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Lord-Castillo, Brett wrote: The road that now bears all the Olive names was originally Plank Rd, the major road through St Louis County when it was rural. The main road went through several name changes (Plank Rd, Olive Rd, Olive St, Olive Street Rd, Olive Blvd). But, it also was realigned,

[Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions

2010-05-17 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Lord-Castillo, Brett wrote: But another good one close to us is Old Olive Street Rd and Old Olive St Rd (both official names for different sections of the road). These two streets run parallel to Olive St, Olive Street Rd, and Olive Blvd (all three of these are different roads). So if Old

Re: [OSM-talk] Villain?

2010-05-14 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Frederik Ramm wrote: Nakor wrote: I came to the OSM project to help create a better map of the world, not to be insulted. Please remove the page http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/dupe_nodes/heroes.html immediately. The page is helpful and should not be removed. To be less offensive,

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-06 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Just to be safe - this user has been active on 10 days between 13 September 09 and 22 April 10, uploading over 100 changesets altogether. All these edits are to be removed, regardless of whether someone else touched the

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-06 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Just to be safe - this user has been active on 10 days between 13 September 09 and 22 April 10, uploading over 100 changesets altogether. All these edits are to be removed, regardless of whether someone else touched the

Re: [OSM-talk] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-05 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Response from bhj867: Delete everything except the bypass, which is finished except the Interchanges, and the Rollie Moore Drive. south of town. Also Route 45 IS 4 lane through the city all the way to ELdorado, everything else is not real. Just A few proposed roads and crap that was added on.

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-05 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Tyler Ritchie tyler.ritc...@gmail.com wrote: If someone is going going to truly vandalize a map I wouldn't expect them to make the detailed map that is West Harrisburg. I would expect giant words spelled out using streets, and changes to existing names and towns

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-05 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Nathan, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Anyway, could someone please help me revert? I lack the coding skills to do the automated part, but can do the resulting cleanup. If you can try to give a slightly more algorithmic

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-05 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Tyler Ritchie tyler.ritc...@gmail.com wrote: If someone is going going to truly vandalize a map I wouldn't expect them to make the detailed map that is West Harrisburg. I would expect giant words spelled out using streets, and changes to existing names and towns

[OSM-talk] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-04 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
In southern Illinois - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.777lon=-88.689zoom=10layers=B000FTF - user bhj867 has added a number of new highways, most notably the motorways at Murphysboro, Carbondale, Marion, and Harrisburg, and the trunk from Eldorado to New Haven. But it appears that these are

[Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-04 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Richard Welty wrote: On 5/4/10 7:09 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: In southern Illinois - http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.777lon=-88.689zoom=10layers=B000FTF - user bhj867 has added a number of new highways, most notably the motorways at Murphysboro, Carbondale, Marion, and Harrisburg

[OSM-talk] USGS has no problem using information from copyrighted maps

2010-04-08 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
First, I'm not trying to start an argument or even a civilized discussion about our policies in this matter. I just found this interesting. http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=gnispq:3:::NO::P3_FID:1196597 is Rosslyn Station, a former railway station in Pennsylvania. The source cited for

[Talk-us] USGS has no problem using information from copyrighted maps

2010-04-08 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
First, I'm not trying to start an argument or even a civilized discussion about our policies in this matter. I just found this interesting. http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=gnispq:3:::NO::P3_FID:1196597 is Rosslyn Station, a former railway station in Pennsylvania. The source cited for

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Anyone? On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com wrote: It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? I generally allow other mappers a week to respond to site-mail before I send another note. They might

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Richard Weait wrote: What is in this (big) changeset that ikrevert reverted? I fixed up the numbered routes in Columbia. You'll see that currently some of the primary highways just dead-end, because TIGER often doesn't have the correct routings for numbered routes. Restore the changeset and you

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-27 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Feb 2010, at 14:33 , Nathan Edgars II wrote: And a week from now half the ways in the changeset will probably have been edited, making a restoration very complicated. Is it the intent here that those

[OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert has reverted one of my changesets. I contacted this user, but doubt I'll get a response, since this is obviously not the primary account. I don't have the tools to undo this revert, and that's probably not a good idea anyway without some sort of

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Oops - forgot to choose 'reply to all'. Sorry Fred for the duplicate. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:03 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Nathan, Nathan Edgars II wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert has reverted one of my changesets. I contacted this user, but doubt I'll

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
Frederik Ramm wrote: However, Nathan, I see that for example in this way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/12515816/history you had removed *all* the tags from the way. I haven't investigated further but maybe the reverter had to assume that there was some editing error? I deleted that

Re: [OSM-talk] Help! Changeset reverted without explanation

2010-02-26 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
It's been a day with no response from lkrevert. Can somebody please take care of this? On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lkrevert has reverted one of my changesets. I contacted this user, but doubt I'll get a response

[OSM-talk] Should roads be connected to all types of crossing ways?

2010-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Nathan Edgars II
I was told at http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2708 to take this here. Basically, the TIGER import has put a lot of duplicate nodes where highways cross railways, power and pipe lines, and administrative boundaries. The former should definitely be connected, but it seems that power lines,

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