Re: [talk-au] What A Day

2011-07-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 9 Jul 2011 13:02:14 +0100 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: 3) (ok, three things), there is no map hosted as fosm.org at the moment, there are people working on rendering (such as bigtincan) and I'm happy to encourage such diversity as it makes the project stronger. I'm trying to keep the

[talk-au] What A Day

2011-07-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
The quiet and languid mailing list of normally laid back Australians exploded into vitriolic exchanges after a non-Australian hijacked a thread on the list. A number of listees found themselves offended by rash statements and then attempts were made to claim that white was black and black was

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 11:05:28 -0700 Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: If you go look at talk@ you'll find a lot of history from the people who now inhabit this list. In fact, several of them have either been banned or moderated. big snip of trash I've known them for a lot longer than

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-19 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:32:58 +1000 Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: On 15/06/2011, at 3:15 PM, John Smith wrote: The current boundaries will be removed in the near future, so if I were you I wouldn't spend to much time fussing over them. Some of these boundaries have been edited

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-19 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:10:47 +1000 Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: And as they won't be pulled from fosm why should I be concerned? Did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning? Not everyone here has decided to give up on OSM. I'm going to decide once I see what

Re: [talk-au] ODBL and real life...

2011-06-19 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:12:25 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: We have people subverting our CC-BY-SA license right now!!1! *zomg* And they wouldn't be abusing our ODbL license in future. Case: UN: http://www.unitar.org/unosat-releases-new-maps-over-haiti I viewed these

Re: [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:12:24 +0800 James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: Sadly, that's not how I understand it - particularly the terms in place between OSM and the individual ... at the relevant time. bit says to me that retrospective signing of the CTs to cover old

Re: [talk-au] Most insanely dissected street ?

2011-06-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 23:44:12 +1000 (EST) John Berkers be...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Hi, We've got a few roads around here (Narre Warren South/Lynbrook) that are split and not yet joined. One such road is Glasscocks Road, which runs from Dandenong Frankston Road, through through Lynbrook and

Re: [talk-au] Wiki censorship

2011-05-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 17 May 2011 22:53:42 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Sugar coat it all you want, but what action did you take against anyone else involved? Without wasting my time looking at the wiki this business is as well organised as a schoolyard Set of rules made by one group,

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-05-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 4 May 2011 20:29:22 +1000 Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/05/2011 5:18 PM, David Murn wrote: Well, I have yet to hear any Australians complain about the freedom of the data, other than being incompatible with the new one-of-a-kind licence that OSM is wanting to use.

[talk-au] Barrier Reef Island Geographic Offset

2011-05-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
Brampton Island http://osm.org/go/vIwcP8wt- Also saw the same for Lady Musgrave Island. I've not made any alterations, because I do not have any idea whether the possibly traced outline or the ABS boundaries are correct. Liz ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-05-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 3 May 2011 18:28:09 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 27 April 2011 05:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Wait, why did the Australian government stop using

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:11:29 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: FOSM.org is hosted on a virtual machine of hypercube provided for XAPI. Without any explanation I was banned from the FOSM when I stated this. Regards Grant OSM Sysadmin team. Banned from the

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:17:33 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Unfortunately there are some very vocal (anonymous) members of the Australian community who seem intent on creating a virtual Us vs Them conflict in the community with exaggerated claims and mistruths. We

Re: [talk-au] How many NearMap users do you think have accepted the new CTs and ODbL?

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 23:24:09 +1000 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Using my australian test extract from 21/03/2011, I found that 3390 users have made edits in the area of interest (the Australian extract available on osmaustralia.org). Of these 3390 users, 536 have used the tag

[talk-au] Comment from another user looking at sign-up screen

2011-04-26 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
It asks you to agree. It doesn't ask you to accept or decline as you wish - and doesn't say what will happen if you decline. Contributor terms Please read the agreement below and press the agree button to confirm that you accept the terms of this agreement for your existing and future

Re: [talk-au] Does FOSM really work?

2011-04-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 09:58:08 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 April 2011 08:09, Kevin Sheather mobilesheath...@bigpond.com wrote: I have tried to use FOSM but with no success. I have opened an account and logged in but none of the links seem to work with the

Re: [talk-au] Tragedy of the commons...

2011-04-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 22:18:41 +1000 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: Also, I hear that Kiwi OSM surveyors are having just as much trouble convincing OSM-F that their government too has done the due diligence on Creative Commons for geodata:

[talk-au] Fw: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Hoping you can point me in the right direction.

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
Someone local to this guy want to speak with him? Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:58:25 -0700 From: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: Hoping you can point me in the right direction. Original Message

Re: [talk-au] ABS CodePlay

2011-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 15:21:59 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: An Australian Bureau of Statistics initiative to help drive collaboration between students, developers and national and international statistical agencies. http://data.gov.au/2770/contest-abs-codeplay/ that

Re: [talk-au] How to tag reaches (segments of a waterway)?

2011-04-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:22:49 +1000 Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to map some named reaches (straight portion of a stream or river, as from one turn to another;) part of a major river. The river (e.g.

Re: [talk-au] How to tag reaches (segments of a waterway)?

2011-04-09 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:23:57 +1000 {withheld} pheasant.cou...@gmail.com wrote: Bearing in mind reach is also the nautical term for a tack, is it worth considering Andrew's source map might be documenting the lines of sailing between navigation markers (or indeed landmarks) which are no longer

Re: [talk-au] Wiki + Data Sources + Licensing Categories

2011-04-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:58:04 +1000 Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: If you still consider importing this data without permission was in the best interest of the project, I'm afraid we are going to have to agree to disagree. Others can make up their own mind. and we have had to edit

Re: [talk-au] Nearmap

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 08:19:39 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 7 April 2011 06:58, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 April 2011 12:57, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: If the Australian issue is so important, as others have suggested why isnt

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] OpenStreetMap is changing the licence

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:48:55 +1000 Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: More importantly is it a official OSMF or semi-official LWG email, or just some pro-ODbL people spamming everyone? Pretty sure it's the last one. I received it a few weeks back, even through i'd put a note on

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:53:02 +1000 Leon Kernan lker...@gmail.com wrote: Supposedly it sends you to this flippant page if you decline the CT: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributor_Terms_Declined I think the lolcat picture on that page tells us exactly what they think of

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 04:47:39 -0700 (PDT) All Blokes speed_13...@yahoo.com.au wrote: I was very keen and learning ...had done a few edits not many but I was planning on getting right into it. I don't agree with the new licensing and have just been sitting on the side reading.

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 07:30:29 +1000 {withheld} pheasant.cou...@gmail.com wrote: Whilst I agree / commiserate with your basic point (been there; done that; spent the fuel), don't you still have the raw traces from your device? I certainly do, and consider at no point have I ever given up my

Re: [talk-au] Wiki + Data Sources + Licensing Categories

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011 23:27:57 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Also the locations have been fixed for numerous locations so if you ever get in contact with anyone please let them know about OSM having more accurate data than they offer, I think 30km out is still the worst case.

Re: [talk-au] Wiki + Data Sources + Licensing Categories

2011-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 10:40:15 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 April 2011 09:28, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: If the data owner doesn't grant permission under an acceptable licence then we shouldn't relying on one interpretation of very recent Australian

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-dev] To OSM editor authors ...

2011-04-06 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:31:53 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com didn't write: (Michael Collinson did) For clarity: - This will only affect (77,000) contributors who registered before May 2010 and who have not accepted the new terms as part of the voluntary re-licensing program.

[talk-au] Need a laff?

2011-03-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
If you need a laff, try the wiki page on countryside http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Countryside ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] GPS jamming

2011-03-11 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/11/3161861.htm ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] temp name change

2011-02-21 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
21, 2011, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:21:49 +1100 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, am I the only normal person on this email list? Steve everyone's odd except thee and me and even then i'm worried about thee

Re: [talk-au] temp name change

2011-02-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:21:49 +1100 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Just out of curiosity, am I the only normal person on this email list? Steve everyone's odd except thee and me and even then i'm worried about thee sorry i can't recall the exact words of the quote nor do i know

[talk-au] temp name change

2011-02-18 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/02/18/3142067.htm anyone fixing this on the map? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Unsuitable for caravans

2011-02-18 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:56:03 +1100 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:25 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Nope I meant what I said, access:caravan=* same with access:4wd=* As I understand it, foot, motorcar, bicycle, hgv etc are all

Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset?

2011-02-16 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:07:48 +1100 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 00:04 +, David Groom wrote: I just want to draw attention to the survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/WFVK6XS , the link was mentionedn Richard Weait's email to this list on 1 Feb,

[talk-au] time change on bing

2011-02-07 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
obvious time change between two sets of photos here http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2cp=-31.607381813961595~143.33909511566418lvl=17dir=0sty=hwhere1=Wilcannia%2C%20NSWq=Wilcannia%20NSW ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset?

2011-02-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:45:52 -0500 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: A small thing perhaps, but the next step requested by the board prior to 31 March is Phase 3, which adds the decline option to the current accept option. I expect that the improved CTs (1.2.4) will be available at the

[talk-au] i presume university western sydney

2011-02-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Christian%20Nold/diary/12968 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Relicensing per changeset?

2011-02-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:30:47 +0800 Andrew Gregory andrew.greg...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 February 2011 08:38, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 February 2011 09:28, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: I also wonder how this works, using your example, if the user had

Re: [talk-au] JOSM filtering image/map tile URLs

2011-01-31 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 16:00:11 -0800 (PST) Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: that P2 does indeed prevent you from using any URL with the string google in it. I like Merkaartor and JOSM, and have not seen any need yet to try Potlatch2. I could set up a proxy - on my squid to rewrite

Re: [talk-au] Emergency Markers

2011-01-31 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:37:15 +1100 Luke Woolley lswool...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't make sense putting emergency markers in places where emergency vehicles can't get access. why not? just because the emergency workers have to walk? ___ Talk-au mailing

Re: [talk-au] Emergency Markers

2011-01-31 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 11:21:08 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: What about the national parks mentioned previously that don't actually have paths to prevent people from creating goat tracks? Someone must have got in there with the sign, somehow.

Re: [talk-au] BYO restaurants

2011-01-25 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 10:58:04 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 January 2011 09:21, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Upon doing a bit of research, the exact meaning varies depending on where you are. In [1]New York for example, a BYO establishment MUST have a

Re: [talk-au] Victorian Coastline

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:46:08 +1030 Markus_g marku...@bigpond.com wrote: Hello, Someone has added coastline to the administration boundaries from the SA border to Port Philip Bay and removed the old coastline. There edit comment was removed malformed Victorian/SE SA coastlines and added

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:29:01 +0800 Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Also: we're being linked like crazy from several major media sources, so if you can ensure you have a decent-size browser cache and avoid trying to spider down large areas of tiles, that'd be very helpful in reducing the

Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:55:14 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 January 2011 12:52, 4x4falcon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: I have no idea what to tag it, I'm sure you'll work something out. Brendan flood_prone=yes Need to expand it a little to cover how often

Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
ps. does anyone have a time stamp for exactly when the flood reached peak height? http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/qld-floods/height.htm ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 16:04:01 +1100 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: ps. does anyone have a time stamp for exactly when the flood reached peak height? http://www.abc.net.au/news/infographics/qld-floods/height.htm ___ taken from

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:03:10 +0800 Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Er... there's lots! Most of the FairFax media sites picked up the Sydney Morning Herald article yesterday,

Re: [talk-au] Brisbane Flooding on NearMap

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 07:57:49 +0100 waldo000...@gmail.com waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: flood_prone=yes Need to expand it a little to cover how often that level is likely to occur etc and/or height above

Re: [talk-au] Massive flooding

2011-01-14 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 18:35:58 +1100 Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: JohnSmith wrote I originally cc'd my original email to the HOT list as well, however it would see they doesn't bother trying to help unless you are a 3rd world country with a high chance of PR... Given the

Re: [talk-au] Australia Post finds new routes around floods

2011-01-05 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:35:06 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Flooding has disrupted mail deliveries in Queensland. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/01/05/3106734.htm I guess it might be useful after all to tag flood prone roads:

Re: [talk-au] Locations of underground creeks

2011-01-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:04:58 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 January 2011 19:04, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 January 2011 15:51, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Yer, but GPS's don't work underground. AGPS does... or rather, some

Re: [talk-au] Locations of underground creeks

2011-01-04 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:10:23 +1100 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Yer, but GPS's don't work underground. AGPS does... or rather, some forms of AGPS do... I'm waiting for this to actually become available https://www.eglobaldigitalcameras.com.au/casio-exilim-ex

Re: [talk-au] highway shields: AU

2011-01-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:15:58 -0500 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: If, in your future highway editing, you could update your network tags to the AU_NH, AU_NR, etc. form, that will mean that Australian shields will continue to render after I clean up the Dirty Hack(r). ;-) we now put

Re: [talk-au] Locations of underground creeks

2011-01-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:51:54 +1100 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Yer, but GPS's don't work underground. you need an INS ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Suitable Garmin GPS Devices

2011-01-02 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 11:22:00 +1100 Eraina Richard Jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: My T_m-T_m GPS is over two years old ... and its maps are showing some errors. I was looking at buying a new set of maps ... but if I can get them for my model, they will cost almost as much as a new gps!!

[talk-au] Murray and Murrumbidgee rivers and anabranches

2011-01-02 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
I've been working on the Murray anabranches and the Murrumbidgee River so far this year. Filling in gaps and putting the flow in an appropriate direction and disentangling from the admin boundaries. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] airports import

2010-12-28 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
with different tags. Maybe xxx airstrip rather than xxx airport. PS Would you mind toning down the inflammatory language? Crazy...trash...etc. Let's keep it friendly. Steve On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: someone from somewhere else in the world has imported

Re: [talk-au] airports import

2010-12-28 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
We have a set of rules or guidelines about importing stuff http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] airports import

2010-12-28 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:00:45 +1000 Kevin Ruth Sheather mobilesheath...@bigpond.com wrote: As a regular traveller in remote Australia, I can see advantage for map users in having cattle station air strips in OSM. Quite apart from RFDS operations, there is a progressive merging of tourism and

Re: [talk-au] airports import

2010-12-28 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
Dear god. 1) You, and about a thousand other people have pointed this out. 2) Clearly the person involved didn't know this, and is now doing the right thing. 3) Why complain *here* about it? Steve could you reduce the exaggeration? I don't see anything on talk or tagging about things

Re: [talk-au] airports import

2010-12-28 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 16:45:19 +1100 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: we mark them all with a 'fixme' Sounds good to me. Steve so do we have a consensus and a volunteer

[talk-au] airports import

2010-12-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
someone from somewhere else in the world has imported airports from some crazy list. I went looking for some way off the beaten track places in NWQ only to find Kamileroi Airport Lorraine Airport Gregory Downs Airport which are all station / homestead airstrips Is someone bored enough to remove

Re: [talk-au] NearMap

2010-12-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
Cheers Ben On 18 December 2010 08:49, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: New nearmap imagery from 7th December of flooding in Wagga I just noticed. I'm not into twitter, facebook or anything similar - I can spend enough time on the net now without any other distractions

Re: [talk-au] a local data compilation ruling that may be of interest

2010-12-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 13:53:20 +1100 Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote: or not... http://minterstmt.blogspot.com/2010/12/no-copyright-in-white-and-yellow-pages.html jim Interesting. Not considered is the possibility that the people working as contractors for Telstra (as I recall they

Re: [talk-au] a local data compilation ruling that may be of interest

2010-12-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:57:34 +1100 David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 13:53 +1100, Jim Croft wrote: or not... http://minterstmt.blogspot.com/2010/12/no-copyright-in-white-and-yellow-pages.html I can see how this ruling applies to White pages, as that is

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-12-18 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
So, whens the aussie fork coming? David world-wide osm-f...@googlegroups.com ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] NSW Bridge numbers

2010-12-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
Today, driving around various flood diversions, we found a bridge number Mirrool Creek, south of Ardlethan on the Newell is 10029. Photo proof coming later My internet is either flaky or b**g*d ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridge numbers

2010-12-17 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 20:02:58 +1100 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Today, driving around various flood diversions, we found a bridge number Mirrool Creek, south of Ardlethan on the Newell is 10029. Photo proof coming later My internet is either flaky or b**g*d http

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-30 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:42:01 +1100 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Let's talk real advice, from the old white haired lady, who has been on non-profit Boards and for-profit Boards over the last 15 years. Just published is this guide from the Institute of Directors and some others

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-28 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:43:52 +0100 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Mike  Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Yeah, I dont pay in money, I pay in code and

Re: [talk-au] Looks like Nearmap is gone from JOSM slippymap plugin

2010-11-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:57:25 -0500 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 3:59 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Does this mean talks with Nearmap has failed to come to an amicable arrangement? From

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:12:32 -0800 (PST) Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: OSMF is a democratically elected body. Candidates welcome. I guess 2011's elections will take place at the start of July as usual. I can honestly say that I do not have time available to put into such a job

Re: [talk-au] MS imagery

2010-11-24 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:41:04 +1000 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: Planning to enable access is not the same as enabling access. So, at the moment, we can't use it. Merkaartor is ready to go, as soon as the legalities are OK. from Merkaartor list I guess we need a good way to use the

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-22 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 22:50:09 +1100 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: But I also haven't yet seen any reasons, other than sheer bloody mindedness, why a person who was happy to contribute under a CC-BY-SA licence would be unhappy to do so under ODbL, assuming they were able to do so.

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-22 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 08:59:13 -0800 (PST) Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Because when you engage with the guys who are doing stuff, make suggestions, talk to them in a friendly manner, the result is better for everyone. That applies as much to licence discussions as it does to

Re: [talk-au] CT / ODbL approval by changeset.

2010-11-22 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 11:58:21 -0500 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Glad to have your support on this. I guess you don't comprehend Australian idiom. I didn't read support in the reply at all, noting some sarcasm. ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: license change map

2010-11-22 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:18:07 + Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: [off-list] I have been labelled a 'troll' which I am not, and been the subject of personal abuse by SteveC. Hang about. I'm not SteveC and I wouldn't necessarily class him as among the guys who are doing

Re: [talk-au] license change map

2010-11-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:48:11 +1100 Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Certainly, it unfortunately appears that there will be whole villages/towns that will remain red. These will need to be resurveyed. I believe that this will take about one year (or maybe two at the most) I think

Re: [talk-au] license change map

2010-11-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:00:30 -0800 (PST) Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: Two years or 3 its not that important osm will recover.  Community based mapping is too important to be abandoned for reliance on commercial mapping organisations.  Its also a lot of fun which takes the edge off

Re: [talk-au] license change map

2010-11-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:29:30 +1000 Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au wrote: Also, would you argue that Apple has a more polished product than anything in the Linux family? I don't use apple anything, so cannot speak from experience. I know they have the most locked-down model and that

Re: [talk-au] license change map

2010-11-20 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:59:42 -0800 (PST) Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: Wouldn't this problem be easier to manage if each CC-BY data source was kept in separate data store which is combined as a layer on the client or tile server? I think it is reasonable to suggest alternate

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] license change map

2010-11-12 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:33:38 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au Date: 12 November 2010 11:37 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] license change map To: Fabian Schmidt fschm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de Cc:

Re: [talk-au] Locata augmenting GPS in GPS hostile areas

2010-11-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:02:10 +1100 Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote: An australian company which can provide gps signals inside buildings, urban canyons, etc., etc. http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/stories/2010/3058425.htm See also http://www.locatacorp.com/technology.html I

Re: [talk-au] Locata augmenting GPS in GPS hostile areas

2010-11-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:01:19 +1100 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:02:10 +1100 Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote: An australian company which can provide gps signals inside buildings, urban canyons, etc., etc. http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow

Re: [talk-au] Locata augmenting GPS in GPS hostile areas

2010-11-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
can use just a consumer gps and get very good accuracy not exactly; you need a few other gadgets as well this is RTK-GPS as I did post later (real-time-kinetic gps) On 08/11/2010 7:03 PM, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:02:10 +1100 Peter Ross pe

Re: [talk-au] Project of the Week / Month

2010-11-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 10:33:36 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: There are lit roads in a lot of places. Where there are few lit roads it might be even more interesting to have data on where the lights exist. Only if the roads twinkle on the glittermap

Re: [talk-au] [Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Marree, South Australia]

2010-11-01 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:28:08 +1000 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Please don't touch them, I'll arrange to have the reverts run over this weekend (30th-31st October). My significant other is waiting impatiently to edit Marree. How are you going with this? Really we have plenty else

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

2010-10-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:20:50 -0400 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: What did staehler say when you discussed this? reply sent to list separately ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] [Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Marree, South Australia]

2010-10-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:28:08 +1000 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: It would be nice if people passed on the info as per here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Vandalism That way these could have been reverted easily. Looking at them most will have problems as they

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

2010-10-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:33:25 -0700 (PDT) Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: As far as I can tell the guy was on holiday in Aus mapped Coober Pedy then traveled on through Marree adding the pub as he went.  Pub isn't where he put it, nor the Health Service and the pub is really called The

Re: [talk-au] outback SA street names

2010-10-27 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:16:10 +1100 Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: As far as street names are concerned, we could just pick up the names for the streets currently unnamed by survey from the Atlas of SA, and attribute appropriately. If someone gets updated names from survey, they

Re: [talk-au] Is the RTA making their own fork..

2010-10-18 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 16:33:11 -0700 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: But it's great to see that they are embracing the concept of croudsourcing, to make the city dataset better :) I just checked a regional map or two and found them appalling. They need help ;)

Re: [talk-au] NSW bridge numbers

2010-10-08 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 09:45:20 +1000 Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com was not the person who wrote: Yesterday we found lots of blue numbered markers on posts near bridges, all 4 digit, and a larger number of posts white with blue top which marked culverts, with a larger number of digits.

Re: [talk-au] N.S.W Bridge Numbers

2010-09-29 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 08:20:12 +1000 Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: I've started tagging the N.S.W bridges numbers, using the bridge_number tag. Found one today, cycling at lunchtime, pulled the oregon 550 off the handlebars and took its photo with gloved hands

Re: [talk-au] N.S.W Bridge Numbers

2010-09-28 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:01:26 +1000 Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: Ok - so after all this, I have a question. Can any N.S.W OSMers let me know if thay see any bridge number-plates or number-stakes either on or near the ends of bridges in N.S.W? 10 days ago I did a complete walk

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