Re: [Talk-GB] FWD: Re: House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Thread Dan S
That JOSM rendering is just a limitation in JOSM's rendering - I'd imagine it was unplanned. I'd be happy to see that second solution (i.e. make clear the interpretation of the tag, for closed ways). I don't necessarily think it needs a proposal/vote but I'd be happy to see it happen! Best Dan

Re: [Talk-GB] House number ranges that are only odd or even

2020-12-10 Thread Dan S
I use addr:interpolation on single items as in Mat's example, just as much as on an explicit "interpolation way". It seems to me the concept is perfectly adaptable. For example, an address-search-engine should have no trouble digesting these two almost-the-same uses of addr:interpolation. Cheers D

Re: [Talk-GB] British Waterways

2020-12-07 Thread Dan S
Sounds OK to me. FWIW, here's an edit I made a few years ago, similar in kind, to rename Barclays/Santander Cycle Hire in London: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_edits/mcld Op ma 7 dec. 2020 om 10:18 schreef Andy Mabbett : > > I just updated a local canal feeder reservoir, which was

Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

2020-11-27 Thread Dan S
Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson : > Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a > while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling > container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes. > > Here is an image of the h

Re: [Talk-GB] Recycling Points

2020-11-26 Thread Dan S
Hi Jez Is this not it? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drecycling Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 13:08 schreef Jez Nicholson : > I'm planning some work with Household Waste Recycling Centres and > Recycling Points during the Code The City OSM hack weekend this Sat/Sun > (which you are ve

Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

2020-11-21 Thread Dan S
Yes, either highway=footway or highway=cycleway are fine, and there's almost no difference if you're also tagging access rights explicitly! Thanks for being careful about it. Dan Op za 21 nov. 2020 om 18:38 schreef Edward Bainton : > Thanks all for these ideas. The path is marked as shared, but

[Talk-GB] Solar PV data snapshot released today

2020-11-13 Thread Dan S
Hi all, I'm very pleased to say we've published a snapshot of the OSM UK solar PV data today. The journal article: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-020-00739-0 The twitter thread: https://twitter.com/mclduk/status/1327192431117422595 Some of you may be wondering why a snapshot is needed, w

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar tagging app

2020-10-06 Thread Dan S
Let's officially change over to "direction" then. I've edited the wiki page to reflect that. Best Dan Op di 6 okt. 2020 om 19:40 schreef Jeremy Harris : > > On 06/10/2020 16:44, Russ Garrett wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom/Rooftop_Solar_PV > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar update Q3 2020

2020-10-02 Thread Dan S
Hi all, Thanks Jerry for this very good analysis. 250,000 is a fantastic milestone - thanks to everyone. I don't have very much to add to Jerry's report. The change in the imagery has made a massive difference to aerial mapping - I can certainly say that for my patch of London, where I'm quite pl

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dan S
Op ma 28 sep. 2020 om 20:55 schreef Dave F via Talk-GB : > > On 28/09/2020 17:53, Dan S wrote: > > Hi Rodrigo > > > > I think Loomio is designed > > for the purpose of making good decisions together: > > Come again? Why do you think "good decisions"

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dan S
> veneer of consultation and listening to feedback, but in practice so few > people vote that the process is meaningless. > > Chris (chillly) > > On 28/09/2020 17:53, Dan S wrote: > > Hi Rodrigo > > > > Before you create a vote on the wiki, can I suggest a diffe

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dan S
Hi Rodrigo Before you create a vote on the wiki, can I suggest a different method? "OSM UK" has started using Loomio for discussions and votes, and it generally seems to work out well. I think Loomio is designed for the purpose of making good decisions together: https://www.loomio.org/openstreetma

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dan S
Thank you Frederik - that's a good way to put it all. Welcome Rodrigo! You'll find that Frederik's advice fits pretty well to a common strand of thinking in OpenStreetMap. His advice is surprising, for many of us joining OSM from an IT background (or even a Wikipedia background, where automated ed

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging modal filters and school streets

2020-09-21 Thread Dan S
Hi That could be a good idea. How about barrier=modal_filter? Using barrier=* we might expect it to be on the barrier itself (e.g. a row of bollards/planters), perhaps less appropriate if a whole street area with camera-based enforcement. But, after all, they're all intended as a barrier to some

Re: [Talk-GB] Brexit and OpenStreetMap

2020-09-14 Thread Dan S
Tony, Please read the original thread! The one that weeklyOSM is referring to! https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2020-August/thread.html#7191 That email thread includes a very specific reply from Grant Slater (about databases and countries), and also a reply from OSMF board membe

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian priority and highway=cycleway

2020-09-03 Thread Dan S
Hi there, Unless there's a "history" to this I recommend that you assume good intent. Seems Skyguy made an embarrassing mistake there. Please also don't assume "tagging for the renderer" or "vandalism", those two OSM curse words ;) the mapper explicitly stated their intention in the changeset com

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of solar panels - number of modules

2020-08-29 Thread Dan S
Hi Donald, If I remember right, we started off last year tagging it as "generator:modules" but then fairly early on changed to "generator:solar:modules" to make the tag clearer. The latter's been the recommendation on this wiki page, for a good while: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_

Re: [Talk-GB] Rooftop Solar & UPRNs

2020-08-08 Thread Dan S
Op za 8 aug. 2020 om 11:35 schreef Frederik Ramm : > > Hi, > > On 8/7/20 23:27, Dan S wrote: > > The progress on the solar panel mapping is astonishing. > > Indeed it is. Recently I zoomed in to a small countryside residential > neighbourhood in the UK, and all that w

Re: [Talk-GB] Rooftop Solar & UPRNs

2020-08-07 Thread Dan S
Hi all The progress on the solar panel mapping is astonishing. I just have one small observation to add, from our local checking here in London: A year ago, it seemed there were not many solar panels to spot in imagery, in central-ish London, plus the imagery wasn't always clear enough to be sure

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Dan S
>> farming etc.) restrictions - ideal if it was dynamic to ensure that > >> it > >> is always updated (otherwise users woiuld ignore). It would > >> certainly > >> help land managers and users. Imagine if this was in place for Covid > >> restri

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-11 Thread Dan S
Is there anyone here who is competent to write some kind of summary guidance on the wiki? Ideally one reflective of the approximate consensus? It would be super helpful Dan Op za 11 jul. 2020 om 10:16 schreef Nick Whitelegg : > > > .. to follow that up, a good example where I have used foot=permi

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

2020-07-10 Thread Dan S
I have always believed that highway=footway in the UK implies foot=yes (and not foot=designated), though I actually don't know if UK tagging practice is successfully documented. IMHO the use of "designated" is quite specific and probably shouldn't be assumed as an invisible default. Best Dan Op

Re: [Talk-GB] Maps on BBC Radio 4

2020-07-05 Thread Dan S
Hi all, Just to let you all know - I was interviewed for this programme. The producer is putting together a "part two" of sorts, since they had more material than would fit into a single 30 minutes. I think the second programme will go into OSM in a bit more depth (though, still from the perspecti

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar Power mapping update Q2 2020

2020-07-04 Thread Dan S
Hi all That's great news. By the way, I have some regions to propose, if anyone would like to be steered: With my solar PV colleagues, we've discussed targeting a couple of specific regions. We're looking at the Midlands (because so much good mapping has happened there already) - but also the are

Re: [Talk-GB] Virtual meeting: New open data and towards more UK addresses

2020-06-30 Thread Dan S
I probably won't make the meeting myself - but it sounds clever to put it in SotM, you might acquire a couple of bonus participants that way? Best Dan Op ma 29 jun. 2020 om 21:46 schreef Tony OSM : > > Hi Rob > > I think a meeting this weekend is a good idea. > > Even if a basic discussion of wha

Re: [Talk-GB] Server crash or dns spoofing?

2020-06-28 Thread Dan S
I won't presume that everyone on talk-gb wants the gory technical details, but it seems they gave a brief summary on twitter: https://twitter.com/OSM_Tech/status/1277001284705570821 Best Dan Op zo 28 jun. 2020 om 19:39 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB : > > Apparently it was a temporary out

Re: [Talk-GB] SotM shirts to the UK

2020-06-22 Thread Dan S
Hi Gregory Aha, thanks for checking it out! I would be one happy customer. (FWIW, I used Teemill for one design* - expensive print-on-demand £19 but with good ethical credentials.) Cheers Dan * https://digitalcommoner.teemill.com/ Op ma 22 jun. 2020 om 11:16 schreef Gregory Marler : > > He

Re: [Talk-GB] Farmfoods clean up

2020-05-27 Thread Dan S
Op wo 27 mei 2020 om 08:32 schreef Cj Malone : > > On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 06:35 +, Ed Loach wrote: > > If you can't copy the opening hours data, are you sure you can copy > > the store reference? > > That's a good point. I guess I was thinking because it's in the url > it's usable, but I don't k

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar panels 150k up

2020-05-18 Thread Dan S
Hi That paper is interesting+recent, and uses osm data, but within this osm UK project we're getting more data and more detail. I'll say more later, once we've tidied up our work here. Btw just in case anyone notices: the authors have released the data, but forgot to state the ODbL licence, neede

[Talk-GB] Call for a coder: phone app for solar panel spotting

2020-05-18 Thread Dan S
Hi all, Together with two UK nonprofits who are working on the climate crisis (OpenClimateFix and Possible), I'm looking for someone who could help us to put together a phone app for spotting solar panels in the UK. We've done really well so far on getting UK solar panels into OSM. The aim here i

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

2020-04-11 Thread Dan S
For me, the convincing argument is not ease of querying; the convincing argument is essentially namespacing. "uprn" and "usrn" are rather generic initialisms, and I don't see any useful reason for our uk/gb project to claim the "meaning" of ref:uprn or ref:usrn within OSM's tag namespace. I notice

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

2020-04-09 Thread Dan S
Op do 9 apr. 2020 om 19:47 schreef Lester Caine : > > On 09/04/2020 15:32, Mark Goodge wrote: > >> So I'd propose that we use either ref:uprn and ref:usrn, or > >> ref:UK:uprn and ref:UK:usrn. What does everyone else think? > > > > I'd be happy with either, so long as it's consistent. > > That is i

Re: [Talk-GB] Nightingale Hospital, London

2020-03-24 Thread Dan S
Hi Andy Thanks. Your link had an accidental character at the end - the fixed link is: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7326515224 Once the facility is fully operational, it might be useful to enhance this with entrance/exit locations for routing? I'm local(ish) though for obvious reasons probab

Re: [Talk-GB] List moderator - volunteers needed

2020-03-14 Thread Dan S
Op za 14 mrt. 2020 om 11:20 schreef Tom Hughes via Talk-GB : > > On 14/03/2020 11:13, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > > As may have seen in Simon's response it sounds like we currently lack > > list moderators. If this is something you would like to do please email > > this mailing list. > > > > Likewise

Re: [Talk-GB] "Solar panel" tag in Mapillary

2020-03-11 Thread Dan S
u...@openstreetmap.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> talk-gb-ow...@openstreetmap.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Talk-GB digest..." >> >> >>

[Talk-GB] "Solar panel" tag in Mapillary

2020-03-11 Thread Dan S
Hi all, Mapillary have been kind enough to add a "Solar panel" tag for their street-level imagery. So, if anyone would like to tag a few images in there, I'd be interested to know how you get on. http://mapillary.com/app/ (By the way: "Solar panel" is a bit generic, for example it doesn't disting

Re: [Talk-GB] "OSMUK-in-a-box"

2020-02-06 Thread Dan S
Op do 6 feb. 2020 om 13:06 schreef Frederik Ramm : > > Hi, > > On 06.02.20 13:29, Jez Nicholson wrote: > > I come from a database background, and when a question isn't easily > > answered with Taginfo or Overpass Turbo I jump to my trusty local > > postgres database of UK data. I have a script that

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-04 Thread Dan S
Hi Dave, I agree with what you suggest. Can we be a bit precise though about what you propose? You're proposing to remove amenity=university from building=university in Cambridge, and make no other tagging changes? (Ironically, the current tagging makes it hard for me to search to see if there's

Re: [Talk-GB] What is farmland?

2019-12-14 Thread Dan S
Op za 14 dec. 2019 om 16:09 schreef Martin Wynne : > > > I would say yes, as I believe both arable & livestock is farmland. > > Thanks Dave. > > But in that case, how on OSM do we differentiate between the two? using an added tag farmland=* https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/farmland > I

[Talk-GB] Solar farms from REPD, all checked

2019-11-17 Thread Dan S
Hi all, This weekend I completed the task of going through the REPD dataset (UK planning data) for solar farms. Out of 1058 entries, about 65 were un-spottable,* the rest are in OSM. We have 908 solar farm objects in OSM for the UK. The REPD list totals about 8.1 GW and we've got approx 6.9 GW ex

Re: [Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

2019-11-16 Thread Dan S
You need to be a little bit clearer about the licensing, to avoid anyone getting shocked! "Freely usable" could mean many things... The arcgis page says the data are under the Open Government Licence. Cheers Dan Op za 16 nov. 2019 om 15:31 schreef Henry Bush : > > Sorry, yes, the source of the d

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Mill Races / Leats / Lades

2019-11-14 Thread Dan S
I think instead of canal=headrace you meant to write usage=headrace? That's what's in the wiki, and also 1000+ entries seen in taginfo. I've chatted many times to people about millraces, but the term "headrace" (and "tailrace") is new to me. I'll add keywords to the wiki to make searching easier.

Re: [Talk-GB] Import UK postcode data?

2019-10-04 Thread Dan S
Op vr 4 okt. 2019 om 14:07 schreef Russ Garrett : > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 13:59, David Woolley wrote: > > Although I don't have a primary source for this, my understanding is > > that the median is snapped to the nearest actual delivery point within > > the postcode. > > I was also under the imp

[Talk-GB] Video of SotM talk about solar PV mapping

2019-09-25 Thread Dan S
Hi all For anyone who would've liked to see it, here's a video of my talk at State of the Map 2019, about the UK solar PV mapping: https://media.ccc.de/v/sotm2019-1296-mapping-solar-panels-can-save-megatons-of-co2 Cheers Dan ___ Talk-GB mailing list Ta

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar power mapping: 100k up

2019-09-12 Thread Dan S
P.S. blogged about the milestone here: http://mcld.co.uk/blog/2019/solar-panels-in-the-uk-10-spotted.html Op do 12 sep. 2019 om 21:40 schreef Dan S : > > Hi all > > This is fantastic news! Thanks to everyone who has contributed (there > are at least 30 different users taki

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar power mapping: 100k up

2019-09-12 Thread Dan S
Amazingly Plymouth is over 95% of the target. There > are 2 others over 75%: Tameside and Ashfield, and around 16-17 with over half > mapped. I hope one of these is the former district of Caradon in SE Cornwall > as I've been mapping this area following Dan;s suggestion when I last

Re: [Talk-GB] Managed open water swimming

2019-09-12 Thread Dan S
It sounds like the network=* tag might be useful for this? eg network=NOWCA. I'm suggesting it because it sounds like a fairly similar situation to the London bike hire scheme (for which we use this tag), in which one can use RFID keys to borrow a bike from any of various locations... https://tagi

Re: [Talk-GB] RNLI Dunkirk Memorial

2019-09-03 Thread Dan S
Ah, good spot. The "type=*" tag on a relation is usually used to indicate what sort of relationship is represented, e.g. type=multipolygon. The latter might in fact be a reasonable thing to do here? Best Dan Op di 3 sep. 2019 om 16:06 schreef Michael Booth : > > Tagging it as type=memorial and me

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar Panels Quarterly Project: 39 days to go

2019-08-24 Thread Dan S
be good to have a quartlery project where we achieve > completion. Perhaps someone with the data skills could compare the REPD ofgem > data with OSM data and prepare a map (or even just a csv with lat/lon for use > in JOSM) showing the missing ones? > > Regards > > Brian > &

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar Panels Quarterly Project: 39 days to go

2019-08-23 Thread Dan S
Hi Jerry and all, Indeed we've over 500 solar farms - I can check the exact number this weekend. (From the OfGEM data, I estimate that approx 1100 exist.) Here are some comments from the point of view of a data consumer: As I think Gregory commented - we don'tt really "need" much detail on solar

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar panels quarterly project progress

2019-08-12 Thread Dan S
with this week's fresh data.) Thanks everyone for contributing! 45 different people have contributed to this since the 1st of July. (The project page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_2019_Q3_Project:_Solar_Power ) Cheers Dan Op di 30 jul. 2019 om 21:05 schreef Dan S : > >

Re: [Talk-GB] Solar project: Press interview

2019-08-09 Thread Dan S
Hi Rob, I'd be happy to Cheers Dan Op do 8 aug. 2019 om 23:08 schreef Rob Nickerson : > > Hi all, > > I've been a bit slow to the solar mapping project but have now picked up the > baton for outreach. If we can get some press lined up do we have any > volunteers to speak with them? > > Thanks,

[Talk-GB] Solar panels quarterly project progress

2019-07-30 Thread Dan S
Hi all, The current quarterly project is: solar panels. The good news: we've hit 25,000! (From a baseline of fewer than 5,000 at the start of the year.) https://twitter.com/mclduk/status/1156274870625472513 Great work folks. It'd be great to find a way to get other people to help spot solar panel

Re: [Talk-GB] postcode mapping (was Re: Automated Code-Point Open postcode editing (simple cases only))

2019-07-30 Thread Dan S
Op di 30 jul. 2019 om 14:21 schreef Mateusz Konieczny : > > > > > 30 Jul 2019, 11:56 by nd...@redhazel.co.uk: > > 10M addresses that have yet to be surveyed. > > Is it typical for post codes to be posted like housenumbers? Either on > buildings or postboxes? No > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

2019-07-29 Thread Dan S
Op ma 29 jul. 2019 om 11:22 schreef ael : > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 09:42:27AM +0100, Dan S wrote: > > "stinks of armchair mapping" - that sounds rather derogatory. My > > understanding is that these are organised edits informed in > > significant part b

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

2019-07-29 Thread Dan S
"stinks of armchair mapping" - that sounds rather derogatory. My understanding is that these are organised edits informed in significant part by Amazon's own GPS logs from their delivery staff. (Am I misunderstanding?) If so, referring to it as "armchair" is irrelevant; either way, referring to it

Re: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default

2019-07-26 Thread Dan S
Op vr 26 jul. 2019 om 13:15 schreef Martin Wynne : > > The tag is *barrier*=gate. > > A permanently open gate isn't a barrier, so I don't think it should be > tagged as such. At least not across a way. In OSM tagging, the definition isn't strongly tied to the literal English meaning, but rather to

Re: [Talk-GB] Tools to support solar panel mapping?

2019-06-10 Thread Dan S
d they'll have a go at merging the two granularities. Best Dan Op do 23 mei 2019 om 08:57 schreef Dan S : > > Hi > > Related to the idea of solar panel mapping, I've had a request for > info about what sort of software tools might help support this work. > We mi

Re: [Talk-GB] Playground age limits

2019-06-04 Thread Dan S
IMHO if there are no actual restrictions, just implications, then don't specify any min_age or max_age. Just map the fence as a fence. If there are indeed restrictions, then do as Phil suggests... Cheers Dan Op di 4 jun. 2019 om 15:22 schreef Martin Wynne : > > In the local park there are two are

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

2019-06-01 Thread Dan S
I noticed a "sidewalk" here too in Brighton: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/684610225 I'm ambivalent. Both of these examples are pavements that are fully adjacent (continguous) to their roads, and by default I'd prefer not to map them separately. I guess the long one that you refer to does some

Re: [Talk-GB] Tools to support solar panel mapping?

2019-05-23 Thread Dan S
Thanks Rob - we're using the FiT register already, but please note that it doesn't disclose any official IDs (for privacy reasons, I presume) so there's no "primary key", no definitive way to join the dots e.g. across different versions of the FiT data. The REPD has a primary key but it only covers

[Talk-GB] Tools to support solar panel mapping?

2019-05-23 Thread Dan S
Hi Related to the idea of solar panel mapping, I've had a request for info about what sort of software tools might help support this work. We might be using some of the familiar tools (e.g. streetcomplete, openinframap, ... even tasking manager?). It'd be useful to have something like completenes

Re: [Talk-GB] RFC: Solar panel mapping in the UK

2019-04-10 Thread Dan S
Hi all, Thanks for the comments on solar panel mapping. (Plenty of mapping happening already: thousands of UK solar panels added to the database in the past month.) A few small responses: SOLAR FARMS: I'll defer to Russ's tagging advice about solar farms: power=plant polygon (or sometimes multip

[Talk-GB] RFC: Solar panel mapping in the UK

2019-04-03 Thread Dan S
Hi all, I'd like to propose that for OSM in the UK we have a project to map solar electricity panels (photovoltaics or "PV"). Why? In brief: * We can do this! It involves a nice mix of aerial imagery, local on-the-ground observation, etc; and anyone can do it, in the town and in the countryside.

Re: [Talk-GB] More imagery

2019-03-06 Thread Dan S
Op woensdag 6 maart 2019 schreef Dan Stowell : > Yes, I'm sure it would. Are there any specific nicenesses of these aerials - eg hi red, recent, different time of day? > > I'm currently having discussions about mapping solar panels in the UK. Both manually and semi automatically. (Don't worry, no w

Re: [Talk-GB] account disabled due to bounces

2019-01-14 Thread Dan S
It happened to me too today, FWIW. Best Dan Op ma 14 jan. 2019 om 09:10 schreef Jez Nicholson : > > I get the occasional email from Talk-GB telling me that my email address has > excessive bounces. I'm using gmail. Am I the only one with problems? Is there > something I need to change? > > Rega

Re: [Talk-GB] Greater London Authority

2019-01-13 Thread Dan S
Hi They're not exactly offering OSM data extracts under OGL. In fact they're cross-linking to Geofabrik's data extract downloads. The page simply has a mistake on it where it says "Licence: Open Government Licence" at the top, and that needs fixing. If anyone has a contact please do send them a fr

Re: [Talk-GB] Property extents

2019-01-10 Thread Dan S
Op do 10 jan. 2019 om 00:19 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > Even if it were open .. does OSM want it? Is it equivalent to the "cadastral" data that's been used in France and Spain? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cadastre Their experience could be informative, about what the data ca

Re: [Talk-GB] Changing highway=ford to ford=yes.

2019-01-06 Thread Dan S
Hi Martin, It's a bit of a do-ocracy - you can take the initiative yourself, but you should follow the code of conduct, which includes discussing it with the right local groups and giving time for comments on the edit you want to make. See the instructions here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [Talk-GB] drawing internal parts of buildings

2019-01-04 Thread Dan S
Hi dzidek Your mapping looks lovely - thank you! I can see it most easily if I open the Layers menu (button on the right) and enable "Map Data". Looking at your tagging, I think it's great The main thing to remember is that what you see by default on openstreetmap.org is only one way of renderin

Re: [Talk-GB] How to map houses

2018-11-26 Thread Dan S
Hi BD, Ed's right that opinions will vary and there's often not one perfect answer. Allow me to propose a modification of Martin's suggestion, for the case where you have one single outline for a whole terrace and no knowledge of exactly which housenumber sits where: building=terrace addr:housenu

Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes

2018-11-09 Thread Dan S
Op vr 9 nov. 2018 om 10:41 schreef Paul Berry : > > Would the etiquette here be to tag the objects with source=local knowledge if > you happen to know the postcode without looking it up (or it's on signage, > etc)? Hi - two slightly different things in your question there - the convention is, as

Re: [Talk-GB] Changing wikipedia links

2018-10-01 Thread Dan S
Op ma 1 okt. 2018 om 23:15 schreef Neil Matthews : > Looks like an automated edit - albeit a human curated one - without > discussion, certainly on Talk-GB. The "imports" mailing list would be the right place to discuss it, if it's a bulk edit (is it?). It doesn't seem to have GB-specific implicat

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-20 Thread Dan S
Op do 20 sep. 2018 om 16:31 schreef Mark Goodge : > > > > On 20/09/2018 13:46, Martin Wynne wrote: > > On 20/09/2018 13:12, Dave F wrote: > >> See the OSM Welcome page. > > > > Thanks. The wording there is: > > > > "OpenStreetMap is a place for mapping things that are both real and > > current." >

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-20 Thread Dan S
Op do 20 sep. 2018 om 09:46 schreef Colin Smale : > > On 2018-09-20 10:25, Martin Wynne wrote: > > But I can't verify that fact. Should I not map it at all? What is verifiable > on the ground is the fact that the stream does not stop dead at one location > and restart at another. > > How can you

Re: [Talk-GB] 'historic' county boundaries added to the database

2018-09-18 Thread Dan S
Though I've no particular expertise to add, this thread has tipped me in favour of being happy with these boundaries. Colin very rightly emphasised process - how do we come to some decision rather than simply expressing our views and then sitting back waiting for it to erupt again in 18 months? I'm

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-09-03 Thread Dan S
Op ma 3 sep. 2018 om 19:06 schreef Toby Speight : > > >> Even in these days of Brexit, I don't think there's any movement for > >> Northern Ireland to leave GB. You've been misinformed! > > 0> In article , > 0> Martin Wynne mailto:mar...@templot.com> ("Martin") wrote: > > Martin> Northern Ireland

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-28 Thread Dan S
For reference, here's DaveF's email where he documents his mechanical edit: . (Note also that it includes a note about Northern Ireland.) Comparing that email against the OSM policy which Brian links to (the Automated Edit

Re: [Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

2018-08-28 Thread Dan S
As an aside - if ISO3166 meaning of "GB" is indeed intended (i.e. UKoGBaNI), I wonder if someone could update the info on to clarify that? Currently says "General discussion for users in Great Britain" Best Dan Op di 28 aug. 2018 om 13:15 schreef

Re: [Talk-GB] Road refs

2018-08-28 Thread Dan S
Hi, The effort has not been undone - the data is still there in OSM, and certainly usable. The issue is how to come to a community consensus (across UK-based OSM community) in how to tag those refs, so let's try to join the discussions all together. The previous discussion seems to me level-headed

Re: [Talk-GB] Churchyard gate/shelter

2018-08-22 Thread Dan S
Hi "Lych gate" is the general name for these things. I don't know a good tag for it, but there are 62 barrier=lych_gate out there! https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=lych#values Best Dan 2018-08-22 15:06 GMT+01:00 Martin Wynne : > What is the correct tagging for this type of ornate gate

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed Footpaths

2018-07-31 Thread Dan S
In the past I've simply modified the ways concerned by changing highway=footway to higway=construction & construction=footway, leaving all the other info intact As mentioned in the preamble here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:construction Cheers Dan 2018-07-31 16:22 GMT+01:00 Ian Caldw

Re: [Talk-GB] University of Northampton new campus - mapper required

2018-07-13 Thread Dan S
Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > Rather than point as to what not to do .. it would be best to point to what > to do. > > So where is the 'best' OSM mapped university? Use that as an example of what > to do. > > On 14/07/18 08:26, Dan S wrote: > > I hope this

Re: [Talk-GB] University of Northampton new campus - mapper required

2018-07-13 Thread Dan S
I hope this is not too much of a side-issue, but: one hopeful request - plase don't use amenity=university for each object in the campus, as was done for some other universities. I don't think UK uni tagging is yet consistent across towns, but the wiki's advice looks broadly ok imho! Cheers D

Re: [Talk-GB] Closed software supplier ESRI creates OSM vector tile basemap

2018-07-10 Thread Dan S
Great. No problem here with commercial suppliers rehosting osm data as long as there's clear attribution and licensing, which there is. This could be useful for many "read-only" users and potentially relieve some load on the main osm tileserver since it could fulfil various of their needs. For my

Re: [Talk-GB] Railway Platforms - Covered=yes are not shown in latest rendering

2018-05-29 Thread Dan S
> On 29/05/18 14:53, Tony Shield wrote: >> >> At the end of this week (2nd June) I intend to change the platforms I know >> to remove covered=yes, if you disagree please challenge. > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the issue seems to be that the carto change works on the assumption that covere

[Talk-GB] UK govt event "Tell the government what land and housing data you need"

2018-05-15 Thread Dan S
Hi This came via geomob: "Tell the government what land and housing data you need" Newspeak House (London) 30th May https://attending.io/events/what-land-and-housing-data-do-you-need Cheers Dan ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https:

Re: [Talk-GB] YHA (England & Wales), Youth Hostel

2018-04-04 Thread Dan S
Hi "YHA (England & Wales)" would go in the "operator" field, not appended to the "name". (I'm not sure which you were suggesting.) I'm pretty sure that the loose permission (that you quote) is not technically enough to safely use the YHA's own list as a source of data for OSM, though it seems the

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM UK meeting in May

2018-03-05 Thread Dan S
Hi I've pencilled this in. Was going to mention it to a Manchester friend - not listed on the OSMUK website though. Is it a closed meeting? Or is there any public info? Thanks Dan 2018-02-15 23:58 GMT+00:00 Rob Nickerson : > Hi all, > > One for the calendar: The next OSM UK meeting (and our 201

Re: [Talk-GB] Camera and OSM leaflets

2018-01-21 Thread Dan S
Hi - good work. One thing not mentioned on that website - is there any particular use you'd like to see? Are there particular things in need of recording this way, eg urban or rural, high-traffic or low-traffic? Best Dan 2018-01-21 16:03 GMT+00:00 Rob Nickerson : > Hi all, > > In case you missed

Re: [Talk-GB] FHRS info when pub has been taken over.

2018-01-21 Thread Dan S
2018-01-21 12:14 GMT+00:00 Dave F : > > On 21/01/2018 12:09, Philip Barnes wrote: > > rarely accepted by the locals,... > > > loc_name IMHO keeping one old_name is good practice, in particular to allow a little lag time for people who might search OSM data for "the hare and hounds" not yet knowing

Re: [Talk-GB] Nominatim and postcodes

2018-01-10 Thread Dan S
Search engine has answers: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/FAQ#My_postcode_is_missing.2Fwrong_but_I.27ve_fixed_it_in_the_OSM_data._What_is_wrong.3F https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/22731/nominatim-returns-no-results-when-searching-with-a-postcode 2018-01-10 14:49 GMT+00:0

Re: [Talk-GB] Importing Website Data

2017-12-18 Thread Dan S
Hi, People have mentioned this before. The conversation usually then goes to copyright (and the question of whether simple facts (such as addresses, opening hours etc) can be copyrighted), then in fact it's database rights that are probably the main barrier.* I'm not central to all of this, nor a

Re: [Talk-GB] Use of Drones

2017-09-18 Thread Dan S
2017-09-18 11:03 GMT+01:00 Brian Prangle : > The regulations on the use of drones in the UK are already quite restrictive > (if, of course, you're a responsible memeber of society) and are imminently > to become even more restrictive with licensing and proof of competence > becoming requirements.

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM feature density vs edits per features

2017-09-01 Thread Dan S
Hi One specific possibility: I know that at least a handful of people have been deliberately filling out London's buildings, and in un-surveyed areas this is often by tracing building shapes from aerial views. This is motivated by London's "patchy" coverage: areas where mappers live, plus tourist/

Re: [Talk-GB] Select and correct a discovered key duplication of sorts in JOSM

2017-08-19 Thread Dan S
Hi Overpass lets you search for things like this, and then export them into JOSM. You can do it via http://overpass-turbo.eu/ - but to do it case-insensitively, you need to know this tip with regular expressions: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Overpass_API/Overpass_QL#Key.2Fvalue_matches_regul

Re: [Talk-GB] Naming of places

2017-08-17 Thread Dan S
2017-08-17 17:07 GMT+01:00 Malcolm Herring : > On 17/08/2017 16:25, Chris Hill wrote: >> >> I'd like to replace the name=tag with Hull. > > +1 Sounds plausible to me. I hadn't realised they were the same place! You might use official_name for the long form. Cheers Dan __

Re: [Talk-GB] "Inclusion Matters" UK research funding

2017-08-11 Thread Dan S
. Would your interest in this matter be great > enough to volunteer some time/thought? > > Regards > > Brian Prangle > OSMUK Director > > > On 10 August 2017 at 09:08, Dan S wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> Thinking about the recent diversity discussions - this UK a

[Talk-GB] "Inclusion Matters" UK research funding

2017-08-10 Thread Dan S
Hi Thinking about the recent diversity discussions - this UK academic funding call just appeared, "Inclusion Matters": https://www.epsrc.ac.uk/newsevents/news/inclusionmatterscall/ It's for university-based projects. If there are any GIS researchers reading this, maybe an opportunity for a project

Re: [Talk-GB] Lewis Cubitt Square, Kings Cross

2017-08-04 Thread Dan S
2017-08-04 13:20 GMT+01:00 SK53 : > Personally I'm rather more interested in mapping POPS as they are becoming > an issue in larger cities. We could map the boundaries of POPS through a systematic procedure of standing in specific spots, looking like we don't want to buy anything, and waiting for

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