Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Does OSM have a similar concept as the "Organisation" from Mappilary?

On 07/07/2020, Donal Hunt wrote: > https://osmcha.org has a teams function which allows you to see changes > over time. See https://osmcha.org/teams > Pascal Neis also has some tools. e.g. you can visualise by hashtag here: > https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-changesets?comment=osmirl#8/53.475/-

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Summits imported from mountainviews.ie

On 29/11/2019, Donal Hunt wrote: > The latest major revision of WGS 84 is also referred to as "Earth > Gravitational Model 1996" (EGM96), first published in 1996, with revisions > as recent as 2004. This model has the same reference ellipsoid as WGS 84, > but has a higher-fidelity geoid (roughly 1

[OSM-talk-ie] Summits imported from mountainviews.ie

Hi, I've just fixed Lugnaquilla's "ele" tag to use the EGM96 system, as opposed to the WGS84 one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77737107 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ele?uselang=en That one was reported by an OSM note, but I wouldn't be surprised if most of the natural=peak h

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Duplicate townland nodes

On 03/10/2019, Dave Foley wrote: > I don't think they should be deleted, I've been routinely deleting townland nodes as townland relations were being added. Just had to make sure that no information was lost, by checking the tags. Apparently there are a lot of townland nodes left (or have they b

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Duplicate townland nodes

On 03/10/2019, Mark O'Donovan wrote: > Hi, > > The two items below have the same tags and appear twice in the FDroid > version of Maps.me. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5910219 > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3524289126 > > locality : townland > name : Knockrobin > place : locali

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Raths / ringforts

On 06/09/2018, Rory McCann wrote: > I mapped a lot with historical=earthworks earthworks=rath. A few years > brianh came up with a tagging scheme for historic objects like that in > Ireland, and that was the tagging for ringforts, so I used that. I have > no strong attachment to it, and would be w

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Raths / ringforts

On 05/09/2018, Donal Hunt wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringfort > > In Irish language sources > they are known by a number of names: *ráth* (anglicised *rath*), *lios* > (anglicised *lis*; cognate with Cornish > > (...) > > Based on the abo

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Raths / ringforts

On 05/09/2018, Colm Moore wrote: > Hi, > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:fortification%20type=ringfort?uselang=en-GB > > > Was someone running a project on mapping / tidying-up raths / ringforts? I > notice many are mapped in Cork and Kilkenny, but few elsewhere. User b-unicycling has

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Is data being corrupted?

On 22/01/2018, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > I don't think there's anything to be gained in not cleaning up the > current data, so I'll do that as cleanly as possible. Done: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/55654386 ___ Talk

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Is data being corrupted?

That changeset was a newbie's first, under my supervision. I was making an introduction to OSM at my coworking space, which is located right there by the train station. When reviewing the session's edits I noticed the strange "delete one POI and edit another identical one" behaviour but not that th

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mass edits

On 20/04/2017, Colm Moore wrote: > Hi, > > > Tidying up some addresses, I have a 47 entries where: > > * addr:city=Offaly > > * addr:housenumber=Shinrone > * addr:street=Roscrea Road > > Where addr:city should be addr:county and addr:housenumber should be > addr:city. Let's ignore for the moment t

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Large number of connemara boundaries broken, user Dafo43 and Potlatch 2.0

On 26/02/2017, Cormac O Murchú wrote: > I’m getting sick of cleaning these messes up. It's not very useful to vent on the mailing list like this. The first thing to do with a problematic changeset is to open its osm.org page and to comment there. It's also possible to send a private message to th

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] State of the Map 2016 call for sessions - Thinking of suggesting a townlands lighting talk...

On 22/04/2016, Dave Corley wrote: > I was planning on submitting a full talk on it, instead of a lightening > talk. There's a lot to cover Maybe we could collaborate on GoogleDoc or similar to write the talk ? ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstree

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Landuse

Landuse is a bit tricky in OSM because it has a large part of subjectivity. The residential/retail/commercial/industrial split is a common issue. How wide does a street need to be before we stop including it in the landuse ? How all-encompassing should landuse=farmland be ? Should we have lots of s

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Problems with the irish boundaries preset and josm

A new stable version of josm has been released (version 9900, https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Changelog). So if you are following stable versions and haven't changed anything else, you'll see that the townland preset doesn't recognize existing MP relations anymore (it only offers to create a new

[OSM-talk-ie] Problems with the irish boundaries preset and josm

Hi all, there's currently a problem with the irish boundaries preset and josm, depending on your version of josm. The current version of the preset has been tweaked to work better with recent josm versions, but that change breaks josm-stable (9329) and earlyer. There doesn't seem to be a way to wr

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Glanagow Power Station

On 04/11/2015, Colm Moore wrote: > In this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35086504 > In tweaking / adding o the power station, I inadvertently deleted the power > station itself (Way 263812982). Way and relation restored. ___ Talk-ie

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eir lacking proper attribution

On 28/09/2015, Donal Diamond wrote: > There are using mapbox > > Satellite: > http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/eircom.map-orjdcsl6/ > > Map: > http://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v3/eircom.map-rnpq51ml/ > > 2nd is using OSM data so attribution is required. And since they are using Google's javascript API for t

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eir lacking proper attribution

On 28/09/2015, Killyfole and District Development Association wrote: > Nope, I can see OSM data on both sides of the border, but it only appears to > be a roads layer from OSM they are using. D'oh ! I could have sworn I saw the tel-tale signs of GM data this morning, but I see it's OSM now, sorry

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eir lacking proper attribution

On 28/09/2015, Killyfole and District Development Association wrote: > The road data layer seems to be OSM on top of Google ariel imagery. To me it's clearly Google data (and javascript) on top of... Digitalglobe imagery, as used by Bing and Mapbox but not GM. Easy to check in Kilkenny: hardly an

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland EEZ boundary

On 22/09/2015, Stephen Roulston wrote: > Yes, sorry about that :( > > I automatically thought that such a short list is bound to be wrong. I was > very embarrassed to see the posting later. No worries, it was quick to redo and it showcased the problems that the old EEZ caused :)

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland EEZ boundary

On 20/09/2015, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > Done: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34148691 Reuploaded in http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/34157957, as Stephen mistakenly undid the changes when he encountered an upload conflic while working on townlands. Precisely the k

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland EEZ boundary

On 18/09/2015, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: > Thanks for pushing me to do these extra checks Colm, this new solution > looks much more satisfying to me. Unless there's a contrary opinion > I'm going to enact it this sunday (schedule permiting), but a couple > of "+1&qu

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Ireland EEZ boundary

On 18/09/2015, Colm Moore wrote: > You will probably find that there is a statutory instrument that defines > much of the EEZ boundaries. Yes, the corresponding document and points can be found at http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2014/si/86 and its title is tagged on the osm objects. I have no

[OSM-talk-ie] Ireland EEZ boundary

Hi, the EEZ boundary is a maritime exclusive economic zone. It is mapped as relation 4121287 in OSM: http://localhost:8111/import?url=http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/4121287/full (using a josm/mercator remote-control link instead of a website link because the website is likely to tim

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 74, Issue 10

On 19/07/2015, Nick Burrett wrote: > On 17 July 2015 at 23:08, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: >> On 17/07/2015, Colm Moore wrote: >>> Adding individual Eircodes shouldn't be a problem. Adding the whole >>> database >>> is another matter. Facts can'

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 74, Issue 10

On 17/07/2015, Colm Moore wrote: > Adding individual Eircodes shouldn't be a problem. Adding the whole database > is another matter. Facts can't be copyrighted, databases can. And yet there's little value in mapping just a fraction of the Eircodes. Before starting the job, we need to make sure th

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

On 17/07/2015, Richard Cantwell wrote: > My current view is that the codes themselves are not copyrighted, but the > ECAF (flat file with postal address and Eircode) and ECAD (database with > aliases, co-ords and other things) are copyrighted. That was my understanding as well. Because the actual

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

On 17/07/2015, Killyfole and District Development Association wrote: > Maybe set-up a website like Free the Postcode in the UK ? > http://www.freethepostcode.org/ > > Once the database gets to critical mass they will hopefully just open the > data > themselves, like the Post Office/Royal Mail were

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] eircode question

On 17/07/2015, Simon Poole wrote: > Congrats or not on the introduction of eircode system :-), there is > naturally some insecurity as to if we can legally include the data in > OSM from user contributions. > > It would be helpful if somebody could provide the text of the letter you > received wit

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Eircode Next steps?

On 15/07/2015, Gill Weyman wrote: > Hello,Please can you remove me from OSM discussions.Many thanks.Gill You need to do this yourself, click on the link at the bottom of each email (https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie) at you have an "unsubscribe" option at the bottom. _

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 74, Issue 2

On 02/07/2015, Colm Moore wrote: > Legally, the name is "Iarnród Éireann—Irish Rail" > http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1986/en/act/pub/0031/sec0007.html#sec7 > > They use both names, but never the dual name. The day-to-day use tends to be > Irish Rail. > > At the start, Irish Rail was dominant. How

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Operator=*

On 02/07/2015, Colm Moore wrote: > There are a handful of entries for "IE" (Iarnród Éireann) that need to be > changed to "Irish Rail" (several thousand). I actually thought that the main name (which goes in operator as opposed to operator:LC) was the irish one in this case ? The on-board annouc

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] bridges

On 07/06/2015, Caroline Lewis wrote: > not sure how to add bridges > correctly - i split at the two nodes that define the bridge , add bridge tag > and then should i also tag as layer = 1? Yes that's basicly it. The layer tag says which way is above the other. You can add layer=* to either way (o

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Where's the coastline?

On 06/06/2015, Killian Driscoll wrote: > Hi, maybe I'm getting the wrong end of the stick, but why try and reinvent > the wheel when you can just compare how the land or water is already > interpreted It's more important to be self-consistent than to follow another project's lead, even a well-res

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Where's the coastline?

On 05/06/2015, Rory McCann wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanna check something, to make sure I'm mapping coastlines > properly. > > I'm working around the Clare coast, mapping townlands, and I'm unsure > where the coastline is when there is a lot of tides or estuary. > > In this area: http://www.openstr

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Things you can do with the GSGS Maps - Lake Names!

On 03/06/2015, Killyfole and District Development Association wrote: > Is this something could be made into a Map Roulette task > (http://maproulette.org/)? There are a lot of unfixables (no GSGS map for the area yet, or no name for that particular lake), and I'm not sure how easy it is to displa

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Things you can do with the GSGS Maps - Lake Names!

On 03/06/2015, Rory McCann wrote: > I hope ye are all having fun mapping all those townlands! We've just > crossed the 50% barrier, and are almost at 30,000. Impressive progress, keep it up :) > A new thing you can do with the old maps is map lake names! Overpass > Turbo can help with this. > >

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Water depth in lake

On 30/05/2015, Colm Moore wrote: > This is potentially life or death information, so I'm not sure if it is > approved for OSM. There's plenty of "potentially life-or-death" data in OSM already. Map data is never exact, it's allways "good enough for a certain purpose". So go add your data, and let

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Water depth in lake

On 31/05/2015, Daniel Cussen wrote: > Could you use height info from the GPS? Would it be good enough to > calculate depth below sea level at that point? GPS height might take > into account variable water height? I very much doubt it. Vertical accuracy of GPS is by design tradeoff worse than hor

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Spam

On 28/05/2015, Colm Moore wrote: > Hi, > > I've received spam via the internal OSM messaging system (NOT this mailing > list) > > How do I report this? Edit http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Spam , admins regularly look through that file and purge the accounts. _

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Query on tracing townlands and dealing with changed lake levels and new boundaries

On 15/05/2015, Donal Diamond wrote: > There's an earlier thread on topic here where conflicting advice was given > ;-) > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2014-October/000741.html > > So looks like it is worthwhile opening up the discussion where we can all > agree on a common ap

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] error correction of data in downloaded ireland-northern-ireland.osm.pbf

On 12/05/2015, Killian Driscoll wrote: > I downloaded the ireland-northern-ireland.osm.pbf and noted some errors, > e.g. in polygon layer column "place" one row of 'locality is misspelt as > 'lcoality'. > What should I do for this? Go to the instance on osm online and edit? Yes. One should be ca

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Split townlands

On 01/04/2015, Rory McCann wrote: > On 01/04/15 15:40, Rachel Murphy wrote: >> I have a townland that is split in two by a road (Ballysteena, Co >> Tipperary). How do you handle this? Do you have to create two separate >> areas/polygons and then combine somehow? > > Hi Rachel, > > It's actually n

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Editing Townlands

On 01/04/2015, Rachel Murphy wrote: > I've uploaded a townland but realise that I need to make a minor change to > it. What is the best way to go about editing a boundary it once it's been > been uploaded? Just download, edit, and upload again using your osm editor. Don't delete+recreate the bou

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] A couple of questions from a newbie

On 27/03/2015, Rachel Murphy wrote: > Also, another Tipperary map I'd like to work on has already been uploaded > and looks to be georectified - does this mean I should just go ahead and > start digitising those townlands while I wait for the map I've requested? Yes, feel free to edit a different

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tag for lay by

On 25/02/2015, Dave Corley wrote: > Passing place might be the most suitable if that's the most likely usage. > Do you have a link to the location? +1 for highway=passing_place. See the photo on the wiki[1], it doesn't have to be a grand feature. Remember that tag values may have been standardize

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] openpostcode - any interest?

On 14/11/2014, Dave Corley wrote: > Folks, > > I think people are confusing what is meant by privacy in the context of > addressing and Eircodes. > > [...] all valid points, but The privacy problem with eircode is that it has no granularity in practice. All signup forms on the web will require th

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] openpostcode - any interest?

On 14/11/2014, Dave Corley wrote: > As for adding postcodes to addresses at all, as sad as it is to say, only > Eircode will end up being widely used and as it will be the officially > recognised postcode in use in the country, it is the only one which should > be added under the tag addr:postcode

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] openpostcode - any interest?

On 14/11/2014, Dave Corley wrote: > Regarding possible privacy issues, I've yet to find someone to explain to > me how a buildings eircode is any different from a buildings address. That claim sounded like a red herring to me as well, but it's actually very valid. The key difference between textu

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Logo for Townlands.ie?

On 06/11/2014, Rory McCann wrote: > Wow, those are cool! I think we have a winner, unless anyone else wants > to have a stab at it. +1, great job Matze :) ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Townland Mapping in Ireland (an update)

On 01/11/2014, Dave Corley wrote: > I can happily report that based on the amount of people > recently pitching in with this project that the eta for completion is now > down to approx > > 18 months!! Congrats to all, this is great to see :) > == Not Being Mapped == > Kilkenny Hey, I resent

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Formalising Openstreetmap Ireland into a proper body and becoming an official OSM Chapter

On 01/11/2014, Dave Corley wrote: > The first thing to sort out is will OpenStreetMap Ireland cover the whole > island, yes or no. > > My opinion is that it should. Up to this point, apart from there being an > admin boundary between north & south in the OSM data, there has been no > separation be

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps project

On 29/10/2014, Stephen Judge wrote: > I just posted this feedback on the Dublin.ie Dublin City Community Maps > project http://www.dublin.ie/maps/home.php Nice catch, good message. AFAIU they have their own local db of POIs, they're not submiting any of it to Google. Depending on their worldview

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Place names and townland boundaries

On 26/10/2014, Killyfole and District Development Assocation wrote: > I know in my part of the world the GNS Nodes are extremely inaccurate, some > are > 1-10km off where they should be!! My advice would be to firstly find its > correct > location and using Bing check that there isn’t a hamlet at

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Maps for townland plotting

On 24/10/2014, John Kennedy wrote: > Do you want the reserve/freeing process in Mapcraft apply to when you > are editing the townlands in OSM or just when perparing the > map/rectification in mapwarper? No need, only reserve your slice during the mapwarper stage: * For townlands mapping progress

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Logainm import?

On 19/10/2014, Rory McCann wrote: > It was pointed out on channel that, as well as the commonly known naming > dispute, there is also disagreements about the Irish name of Dingle. "An > Daingean" vs "Daingean Ui Chuis". > > http://www.dinglename.com/ > > This is a case where name:ga might be diffe

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Logainm import?

On 18/10/2014, Rory McCann wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to have a discussion about importing data from Logainm, the > official Irish place names database. They recently released their data > under ODbL, the same copyright licence as OSM, so there is no copyright > reasons not to use it. > > I've

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 65, Issue 8

On 13/10/2014, Patrick Matthews wrote: > With regard to detached parts, the solution I used in Longford (for one > townland example, Glebe near Ballymahon, and for a couple of civil parishes > like Abbeylara and Agharra) was to treat the entire entity - including the > detached part(s) as a single

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Formalising Openstreetmap Ireland into a proper body and becoming an official OSM Chapter

On 01/10/2014, Dave Corley wrote: > Something I've been thinking about for a while now, is that we should look > to forming into a proper entity i.e. an official OpenStreetMap Ireland > chapter of OSM. > [...] You've only given a list of pros, so it's hard to disagree :p In general it sounds like

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] OpenStreetMap is 10 years old this Sat - Meetup?

On 05/08/2014, Dave Corley wrote: > I think to make it worth while for those traveling up from the country > there should be something in Tóg if we can get the space. +1, although the chances of me being present are pretty slim. > Some suggestions on how to fill the day (for those not hacking on

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Tagging of an area where Travellers live

On 01/07/2014, Nick Burrett wrote: > I tag them as landuse=halting_site. (I commented on the Note, but a reply here is more visible) I tag them landuse=residential residential=halting_site. This follows the frequent "key=value value=subvalue" scheme, account for the fact that a halting site *is*

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Over-zealous rejection of sources by editors

On 27/03/2014, Colm Moore wrote: > Resolved note #140906 > Description > > "Clones Road (National Road N54)" according to Road Traffic (Special Speed > Limits)(County Monaghan) Bye-Laws, 2014 > > **Confirmed** by OSi, Google, Bing, NTA JP > Created by anonymous 23 minutes ago > Resolved by 12eleme

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Corrections - Oriel Road, Carrickmacross, Monaghan

On 24/03/2014, Colm Moore wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not an editor, so I would be grateful if someone could make the > following corrections. Note that we also keep an eye on OSM Notes (click the "speech bubble" icon on the right hand side on osm.org) for that kind of questions. I suppose there isn't a

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Talk-ie Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2

On 03/03/2014, John M. wrote: > Is their certain tags that we should use to indicate townlands, See this JOSM preset: http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/josm/irishboundaries.xml If you aren't using JOSM, you should still be able to read it to understand the best-practice tagging, namely a relation with

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Interested in a OSM-IE Hack Day / State of the Map day?

On 20/01/2014, Rory McCann wrote: > Here's a thought. Would people be interested in an "OpenStreetMap > Ireland" hack day / mini-state-of-the-map / barcamp day? We could meet > up in Dublin on Saturday and spend the day/afternoon hacking on OSM. I'm > thinking some Saturday afternoon in about a mo

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mapping of farmland

On 25/11/2013, Webmaster wrote: > My question is really about what should I do with this information (for > example someone opens a Note). I have no way of verifying if it is > correct or totally made up. What if the name is offensive or has an > alternative meaning in say another language? How

[OSM-talk-ie] Fwd: [Walkers Association of Ireland newsletter] This Day Next Week!

Hi there, forwarding this to ye OSMers in case you are interested. The expected audience is hillwalkers, but it sounds interesting to others too. I'll be in France on that day, otherwise I would have been tempted. -- Forwarded message -- From: Tyndall Mountain Club Date: 15 No

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Survey of British and Irish Hillforts

On 11 July 2013 01:04, Webmaster wrote: > Hi list, > > I just came across this: > > The Atlas of Hillforts Project has just been awarded £950,000 from the Arts > and Humanities Research Council to try and remedy this situation. The > Project will collect, collate and present data on hillforts acro

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Kerry Mappers / Cycle mapping

On 18 September 2012 02:02, keith wrote: > The reason I ask is that the Kerry Bicycle Festival are holding a mapping > event next Sunday, I have basic knowledge of OSM so it would be great to get > some more experienced people involved. How did it go ? I see plenty of cycling-related edits by use

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Kerry Mappers / Cycle mapping

On 18 September 2012 02:02, keith wrote: > Hello, this is my first post here, Hiya :) > Just wondering if anyone can help with a couple of things: > > * Is there anyone on here or does anyone know any mappers based in or near > Kerry. I'm not aware of anyone in particular, and sadly won't be cl

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Hiking trails

On 20 February 2012 12:15, Matze List wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Dermot McNally wrote: > The burren way for > examplehas That map (like most irishtrails maps) is definitely copyright by

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Re Hiking Trails

On 20/02/2012, Dermot McNally wrote: > The idea being that any contributors who provide a usable description > of an identifiable section of their track will help us to improve the > map. Something that will really help with this is that by the end of > 2012, Bing will have complete aerial coverag

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Corine Import - update

On 2/8/11, Dermot McNally wrote: > In general, to refine the corine areas, you will be carving out a hole > in an existing area to make room for an area of your own. This will be > done by creating a new area inside the larger one and adding it to the > Corine multipolygon with role "inner". That

Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Corine Import - update

On 2/8/11, Dermot McNally wrote: > * Are you happy that this stuff is good? It obviously isn't perfect, but it's a great step forward and I'm happy to manually fix things once the import is done. I looked at Jenkinstown woods, which I know well, and that particular example fits the general feel I