On 16 June 2011 14:48, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote:
That it was drafted, carefully, by a lawyer I do not doubt. But lawyers
draft things on instruction to achieve particular goals. My understanding
from Ben's comment is that one of the goals of nearmap is that derived works
are
On 16 June 2011 14:48, Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com wrote:
That it was drafted, carefully, by a lawyer I do not doubt. But lawyers
draft things on instruction to achieve particular goals. My understanding
from Ben's comment is that one of the goals of nearmap is that derived works
are
On 15 June 2011 19:52, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote:
sorry to be pedantic, but when you say the second paragraph allows edits
submitted before the 17th of June 2011 under CC-BY-SA (i.e., by someone who
hadn't accepted the new CTs
at the time of submission) . to stay in
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of the quote nor do i know the
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On 21 January 2011 13:23, ed...@billiau.net wrote:
He was just telling us that the eastern border of WA is the only one which
is the same on the ground as in statute.
Presumably so that we know for sure when the cane toads cross it? :)
Sorry, I'll go back to flood surveys!
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Cloudbase was at 1600' last time James looked at it, which is a bit too
low;
I just spoke to him and whilst we can fly at 1000' if we want (for a 1cm
survey), the buildings in Brisbane are a bit higher than
to redirect via any 3rd parties, or even our own servers.
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http://www.nearmap.com/?ll=-27.481832,153.026254z=20t=knmd=20110113
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On 15 January 2011 11:03, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
Just FYI, the nearmap.com images of the Brisbane CBD are now up - 2cm
resolution and taken on the 13th (from plane to web in 36 hours). Next
the surveys as they go online (I think Ipswitch is next).
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On 15 January 2011 12:54, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:29:01 +0800
Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
Also: we're being linked like crazy from several major media sources,
so if you can ensure you
:45 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
Hi - yes, in the interests of time we skipped Multiview for these surveys
so
as to get the PhotoMaps up faster.
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So you guys didn't collect the multiview imagery, or is it processing
and will be up at a later date?
The terrain looks
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true that our major concern is the absence of share-alike.
Can't comment on the attribution since we haven't recently discussed
(internally) whether level 1 attribution would be ok.
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The nearmap.com twitter feed (or Facebook, if you prefer) is your
friend... we announce flight starts, flight ends and publication of
new surveys.
It appears you missed the URL: http://twitter.com/NearMap
This URL also works as an RSS feed.
David
On 27 November 2010 06:25, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
For addressing, I guess it is usually sufficient to have a street name -
the
exact addr:housenumber stuff is not needed I assume?
Something I can comment on (speaking as just me, not nearmap for once!)
having been looking recently
On 27 November 2010 06:25, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:
For addressing, I guess it is usually sufficient to have a street name -
the
exact addr:housenumber stuff is not needed I assume?
Something I can comment on (speaking as just me, not nearmap for once!)
having been looking recently
with other editing programs and they aren't top of
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
In order to derive data from nearmap.com PhotoMaps, you must agree to
our
community licence, which says:
If you derive information from observing our PhotoMaps, and include
of the
CTs requires that you grant OSMF a much wider licence than CC-BY-SA, which
you can't do, because you only have the right to distribute your derived
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we can deduce from this is that the ones marked 'Yes' are definitely
licensed.
Apologies for the delay in getting this done.
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Damn... I inadvertently sent an internal email to this list. Any help in
removing this from archives would be greatly appreciated (I've emailed the
list owner). I've never heard that mailman has the ability to redact an
email once sent, but if it does, any help on that would also be
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Nearmap withdrew their support for the people using the new contributor
terms. The OpenStreetMap foundation is currently working to resolve the
issue with Nearmap. Such a discussion happened yesterday evening with Ben
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company to try and direct or influence the direction of OSM. That's for the
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on a monthly basis, I've asked for a rough time
line indication.
See
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look at the 28/07/10 ASX update. The same document also mentions
coverage at State and Federal level.
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that it's not our place as a
company to try and direct or influence the direction of OSM. That's for the
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I'd just like to mention that we have our lawyers looking at the CTs and the
licences (in fact I was in a long meeting about that just yesterday) and
we'll be responding to the LWG shortly. After that I hope we'll be able to
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that is good for everyone - OSM-F, OSM admin team, editor
developers, and most importantly for mappers?
From the NearMap point of view, I'd welcome that :)
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what the Edit button on the current site does, it's our standard response by
email and in our forums. When we roll out the simpler edit, OSM
(essentially, potlatch on OpenStreetMap.org) will be the advanced edit
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we've built. The problem I have right now is that I see conflicting advice
from people who are all part of the OSM community - there is no single
answer here.
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Ben Last wrote:
More seriously, though, this question has already been raised, and we
follow the guidelines at
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z=24, if you really want to zoom in that far...
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edits reverted?
I'm looking for whatever way is least load on us *and* those in OSM who
maintain the data.
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weeks old at the time that an issue is spotted.
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On 4 August 2010 08:32, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
On 3 August 2010 18:13, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:
Can somebody revert this edit
dynamically render
all the tiles (albeit with a fair amount of caching) so as we deploy
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On 4 August 2010 09:45, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote:
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the edits that we're submitting all come from one user
(that represents NearMap) since we don't (and can't) require
users of our site to all be registered with OSM.
Um... this is the sort of stuff
any known problem yet
with ODbl, but we do have concerns over the potential for derived works
based on our data to be relicensed under some new, as yet undefined, licence
at some point in the future.
This posting also emailed (slightly changed) to le...@osmfoundation.org.
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you share it?
Hmm... I'll ask that question internally :) But it would be valid within
Australian only, and (as is disclosed in our latest ASX release), our
ambitions lie wider than that :)
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the accurate locations of stuff on the
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as the source of OSM data.
That's not an arbitrary choice we make; it's important to the way we
operate our business (our aims and our business model are publically
available).
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of use. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki
You can also take it as read that many of us here at NearMap are
enthusiastic mappers and OSM contributors. We're also working hard on ways
to allow more people to more easily contribute data to OSM.
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then later check
out on foot to see where they really run (as opposed to what it looks like
from the air).
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this (JavaScript, which uses radians for trig):
metresPerPixel = Math.abs(156543.04 * Math.cos(latitudeAtCentreOfMap *
nml.PI / 180)) / Math.pow(2, zoomLevel);
See http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa940990.aspx for a reference.
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taxis for a while, the result is GPS signal is blocked or faked to
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2010 12:37, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
Geocoding isn't freely available (unless your needs are small-scale).
Housenumbers are the key to geocoding addresses, and without geocoding
many
useful applications of a map are lost, or at least made more difficult.
So
I'm reasonably
, or at least made more difficult. So
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ways (or sets of relations) could be joined.
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- enabling people. Motivation is another
question, of course, but the easier it is to make a small but helpful
contribution to OSM, the lower the motivation level has to be for your
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and we would like
to send their edits and feedback to OSM
Really it's the API we're talking about. Tiles are just a CDN problem.
I'm not going to suggest specific figures, but we do expect to be sending a
*lot* of edits back to OSM, though not feedback.
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On 18 June 2010 12:19, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:11 PM, Ben Last wrote:
Generally hey, my street's not in the right suburb
well at least this one is what I want to capture, super simply, and have a
queue to be fixed. Right now we don't capture it _at all_
On 18 June 2010 12:32, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
On Jun 17, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Ben Last wrote:
Well, fixing it isn't trivial, since there may be a bunch of reasons why
it's wrong (or it may not actually be wrong!). We could store these and
forward to OSM, but as has been mentioned
Anyone know if this has any relationship to OSM (i.e, is partly derived from
OSM, or has been used as a basis for OSM)?
http://www.naturalearthdata.com/
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Most aussie maps show dirt roads as a dashed line, but this might
upset/confuse the Europeans...
Is there no tag for paved with gold?
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, which seems to be the best full colour printing deal to me
without a lot of volume.
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I'm pretty sure that's the one we used.
On 7 April 2010 09:18, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
It doesn't look like the actual style files that the OSM site uses are
available (or if they are, they're not easy
(or if they are,
they're not easy to find). We will be making changes over the next few
months as we tune things, though.
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On 3 April 2010 10:51, James Andrewartha tr...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote:
On 1 April 2010 16:04, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote:
Thought you might like to know that NearMap now
-F5) to see the new
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In case you're interested, Nearmap are now serving OSM data for the whole
world, rendered from the 17/02/10 dataset. We also have the non-transparent
map tiles, but haven't enhanced the map page to let you select those yet :)
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of the world (or very isolated little communities, of which
Australia has quite a few...). Now all we (Nearmap) need to do is capture
with enough accuracy that you can read the street names...
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To get the higher resolution do you fly lower than normal, or just
process the data more?
We fly lower.
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have multiple traces for a road/path. I've found the imagery
to be within 1m.
I believe they find error reports like this very useful to keep
improving the alignment of their imagery.
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misalignment around the western end of the
westgate bridge, last time I checked. The end of the bridge disappears
into water...
Steve
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, John Smith wrote:
Do you work for this company, or have a contact with them?
Just so the list knows... I work for NearMap (as does Alex K), and I'm happy
to respond to enquiries on the list. There are actually a few of us on
various OSM forums and lists, but being a public
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