Hi,
On 12/17/12 04:02, Michal Migurski wrote:
I pulled together some of the notes and imagery I've been posting here recently:
http://www.openstreetmap.us/~migurski/green-means-go/
I take offense at your wording (on the page): Where in the United
States could government imports
Based on reaction to the mass buildings import (perceived as way too
fast, and I agree), I would suggest that you have a 2 week review period
From the latest time that there is either
- a change in the processing script
- new data being available
- a substantive change in the procedure
I
Folks,
I know what it's like to be excited about OSM, and I know what it's
like to be frustrated with OSM, struggling with low data quality, or
lack of data altogether.
And then you get access to a large dataset, and you know that having
it in OSM would improve things. It would improve the
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
So I'm proposing a new committee, run by the US Chapter, to help guide
imports and large edits.
[...]
What do folks think?
Excellent idea and a good time to do it. Cleaning up the wiki around
US-related
On 12/17/12 9:42 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
When I helped create the US Chapter several years ago, this was one of
the main reasons I thought it should exist, but I think there's
finally the amount of data and interest to justify it.
What do folks think?
i think it's a necessary step, thanks
Interesting idea… trying to wrap my mind around this.
On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:42 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm proposing a new committee, run by the US Chapter, to help guide
imports and large edits.
What specifically would this committee (or point person or whatever it
Two more quesions just came to my mind:
- Are there any volunteers who would love to run with guiding imports better?
- Would also love to learn Jason Remillard's perspective of what could be done
better given that he's in the middle of working on the MassGIS building import
:)
On Dec 17,
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:
This will give step by step guidance to those who want to import data,
and offer the larger community time to review and provide feedback.
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:16 AM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote:
Excellent
Alex,
You're asking good questions. Instead of trying to answer them point
by point, let me try instead to give you a comprehensive answer.
The community (US and broader worldwide community) have issues with
imports. I won't rehash those issues now- we can do that another time
but what we have
Jeff Meyer wrote
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Serge Wroclawski lt;
emacsen@
gt; wrote:
What is stopping these this from happening without a committee?
Probably nothing. Although a committee might not strictly be necessary, it
can give an additional boost of motivation and sense of
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote:
Based on reaction to the mass buildings import (perceived as way too
fast, and I agree), I would suggest that you have a 2 week review period
From the latest time that there is either
- a change in the processing script
-
Nice.
Suggestions;
- kill water somehow
- Information density at low zoom levels implies that basically everywhere is
green. But you zoom to the bay area and see this isn't the case. So, change the
coloring? Modulate it by population density?
Steve
On Dec 16, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Martijn van
While I like the idea of being able to
identify and possibly do imports for
one-kilometer-square (why not miles?) chunks of
the map, I think it needs to be accompanied with
lots of cautionary language about assessing the
area thoroughly before taking any such action. We
could give
On Dec 16, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
OK this is plain awesome. Great work Mike.
One note of caution though - the title may suggest that you can just
go ahead and import away, but folks would still have to follow the
import guidelines and contact the OSM community at large,
On Dec 17, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 12/17/12 04:02, Michal Migurski wrote:
I pulled together some of the notes and imagery I've been posting here
recently:
http://www.openstreetmap.us/~migurski/green-means-go/
I take offense at your wording (on the page):
Information density: maybe a different grid for lower zoom levels, e.g. 5km,
10km, etc.? It would have the opposite effect of what's there now I think,
which is look at all that green!
-mike.
On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Steve Coast wrote:
Nice.
Suggestions;
- kill water somehow
-
Agreed. What I *really* want is a version of this map that's tailored to
meaningful jurisdictions, Census places and counties. It's one thing to see an
all-over view but if you're a city GIS guy and you have a file of data that you
want to input, it'd be useful for you to see just your specific
On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:
Information density: maybe a different grid for lower zoom levels, e.g. 5km,
10km, etc.? It would have the opposite effect of what's there now I think,
which is look at all that green!
I prefer modulating by population,
Serge,
This is a good idea.
I have a large file of data from the Acoma tribe, but my
efforts to negotiate the import wiki have been fruitless. I can't
made heads or tails of it.
Further, I don't know if it's the kind of data we want
(though they say it is public domain
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Now that King County, WA has given us access to use their GIS data as Jeff
Meyer reported, I have converted their address data for the entire county
into smaller blocks. These are available on my Dropbox account if anyone
would like to review the data. Just send me an email with your request.
The
I'd like a look at the unincorporated data, which is where I live :-)
Steve
On Dec 17, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
Now that King County, WA has given us access to use their GIS data as Jeff
Meyer reported, I have converted their address data for the
On Dec 17, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
Hi Mike,
I was looking at the web page yu created. One problem is that I'm not
sure which green, light or dark or kinda light or kinda dark, means an
untouched kilometer. Also, what does black mean?
Then I checked an
Hi,
On 17.12.2012 19:55, Kai Krueger wrote:
it is great to see if technically capable people deeply routed in the
community take charge of the import process to ensure that they are done to
the highest technical standard
That is one thing. Another thing that will usually distinguish an
How do we handle tribal administrative boundaries? This is kind of a big
one for the US, Canada and Australia..
On Dec 17, 2012 2:51 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote:
Serge,
****This is a good idea.
****I have a large file of data from the Acoma tribe, but my
On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Steve Coast wrote:
On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:
Information density: maybe a different grid for lower zoom levels, e.g. 5km,
10km, etc.? It would have the opposite effect of what's there now I think,
which is look at
The result is that folks like myself and others are frustrated by the
import process, and folks who have good, useful datasets are frstrated
by the import process.
[import/mechanical-edit committee proposal]
I agree with your broad sentiments.
Having observed some recent discussion, I
Hi,
There are some technical issues that make imports more complicated
than needed. First is the entire user account thing. I don't
understand why it is needed. If something gets screwed up, either way,
we are reverting the change set. Besides discouraging people form the
import, I don't know we
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Jason Remillard
remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
If you setup a user group to help with the imports, I think it will
be overrun with people that don't like all imports or are terrified of
them being screwed up.
I haven't received any negative feedback about
Hi all,
During the OSM US Board meeting today, we discussed the new Import and
Large Edit Committee.
We will have it on 12/20 at 8:30pm EST on a Google Hangout, which is a
format that's worked well in the past.
If you're like to join the Hangout, please drop me a line.
Or if you'd like to
You might check out
nationalatlas.gov/maplayers.html?openChapters=chpbound#chpbound for
boundaries. They have Indian Lands listed. The data should be Public
Domain. The layer shows areas of 640 acres or larger administered by the
Bureau of Indian Affairs.
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:33 PM,
Indeed, I think it's long overdue that we revisit the issue, though I would
propose that we find a way to make this fit into the existing
administrative boundary structure we use for other, similar administrative
regions, such as cities, counties, states and countries.
Essentially, the reason I
Not having the bandwidth to give it a proper examination at the moment, I
would expect, based on description, that this would be a map of lands held
in trust for various tribes (that which are the subject of the recent
Cobell vs United States case) as opposed to national boundaries of tribes
as
Hi Serge,
You are tougher man than me :-)
How about this, nobody on the committee that has not personally done
at least 1 large import. If you do that, I am happy. Like I said,
these imports require a bunch of specialized skills, it would be good
to build up an expertise in it.
Thanks
Jason.
Hi Serge ,
I am sorry for being negative. I am feeling grumpy from the building
import ruckus, I probably just need to take break from this for bit.
The US import process is clearly borked right now, and I will support
110% you and anybody that is trying to fix it. Please ignore my
snarky
Jason -
Would you be interested in joining the import / large edit committee? Given how
you just went through a pretty ad-hoc import process it would be great to have
your concrete input.
I'm seeing this committee as preliminary and exploratory. We don't have the
answers yet. I'd love the
On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
For my import, 80% of the
useful feedback was off list in private emails because people don't
want to deal with the rude behavior in the list. I made a bunch of
decisions that might seem weird to people that just
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote:
On Dec 17, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Jason Remillard remillard.ja...@gmail.com
wrote:
For my import, 80% of the
useful feedback was off list in private emails because people don't
want to deal with the rude behavior in the
I agree with Ian's points, but we shouldn't give up on email.
I fear that for many potential mappers newcomers, even IRC might be
daunting. (*ducks* while people say, If you can't do IRC, you shouldn't be
allowed to edit a map...)
Phone and hangouts require greater than your average amount of
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