It looked a fantastic event, would have loved to have got over there for
it. In terms of the organisers, who is best to contact fro swapping some
experiences to help out us in the UK who are organising this year's
international SOTM conference? I guess Bonnie at MapBox is pretty much the
go to
During discussions in presentations at this years SOTM-US, participants
expressed a desire to create a mailing list for people interested
in collaborating to improving our maps of National Parks. We will use this
list to develop goals and processes to improve mapping of National Parks.
Joining the
Quick question: will there be opportunities for armchair mappers to help,
or are you only looking for on-the-ground knowledge?
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.uswrote:
During discussions in presentations at this years SOTM-US, participants
expressed a
For today's San Francisco SOTM Sprint, I'm writing to propose a design
effort to bring together legends.
The goal is to inspect each major map and build a legend, then combine
those legends into a big
cheat sheet. Then, inspect each editor and list the features it has
presets for.
The design
Hi Bryce,
I can help you with iD presets -- they live here:
https://github.com/systemed/iD/tree/master/data/presets
I encourage you to use a JSON format rather than XML. It'll be easier for
web-based services to consume.
John
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Bryce Nesbitt
Hi,
Someone asked me recently if we can use Bing's Street Side imagery for
deriving data to improve OSM. (I did not even know it existed, it does[1],
it looks a little weird but it would definitely be usable for our purposes.)
Just for the record: the answer is no, according to the license Bing
Here's what I've been using for POI+
https://github.com/davidchiles/osm-poi-editor-iOS/blob/master/Resources/Tags.json
I've also been using JSON instead of XML. It was just as easy on iOS to use
JSON as PLIST and both are much easier than some other XML format.
David
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at
Hi Stuart,
Happy to talk about our experience with SOTM US any time. Alex Barth, Martijn
van Exel, and Mike Migurski could all be helpful too as they volunteered a lot
of their time around the event. If you're looking for other specific input that
we wouldn't be best to provide, I can put you
Hiya,
OSM has pretty poor neighborhood coverage in the US. We have around 1100
place=neighbo[u]rhood. Geonames has ten times that at 11,000 (feature class
P.PPLX - not sure if all of those are neighborhoods) and Zillow has 7,000.
Both these data sets are provided under (different) CC licenses.
On 6/11/2013 2:58 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:
OSM has pretty poor neighborhood coverage in the US. We have around 1100
place=neighbo[u]rhood. Geonames has ten times that at 11,000 (feature
class P.PPLX - not sure if all of those are neighborhoods) and Zillow
has 7,000.
The TIGER import
On 11/giu/2013, at 21:07, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
Often, I can't determine the subdivision boundary from either Bing or a
survey; I'd need to see an organization map which would be of questionable
license.
or ask the people that live there, would that be feasible?
cheers,
Martin
Hi all,
(Cross-posting to talk-us the *brand-spanking new* diversity-talk list...
Yay.)
I'm following up on our great discussion at #sotmus about diversity and, in
this specific case, outreach/education to broaden the community base. I
want to point out this upcoming National Youth Summit on
Note that, if not all of the subdivision has been developed as yet, the
residents may not be entirely sure where the undeveloped subdivision land ends
and other, adjoining, undeveloped land begins, so you might need to check with
the company that is developing the subdivision.
Martin
That's basically what I am proposing.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 11/giu/2013, at 21:07, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:
Often, I can't determine the subdivision boundary from either Bing or a
survey; I'd need to see an
I think this is a problem more people have. In the GNIS import for
populated places, a lot of apartment buildings and trailer parks are
grouped together with 'real' populated places while they are really
separate things for all intents and purposes. But that may also have a lot
to do with lack of
I think this is a good idea but have some suggested considerations.
If I remember correctly, MapRoulette 2 has the ability to localize the
challenge, correct? If/when is that available I think that would be a great
challenge, just a simple “verify this is the proper neighborhood name and
My house is technically in a subdivision named Murray Heights, but I have only
seen that name on the deed, and on maps. In the 21 years I have lived here, I
have never heard anyone use that name. The subdivision was built in the late
1950s, and, unlike some other local subdivisions, there
Russ -- Yes, MR2 will have the ability to work on a specific location
(likely to be specified as a point + radius, or bbox).
What do you mean by correlating place values, correlating with what?
Rural areas are not as important for neighborhood coverage I would say.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:37
Yea, I think this is where sources like Geonames and Zillow, which are
built (to an extent) based on actual perceived names rather than official
ones, could be so valuable - and why GNIS populated places are detrimental
to OSM map quality, at least in many urban areas.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at
I mean deciding what place value to use, i.e. is this a hamlet, neighborhood,
etc. So I guess more of a guideline for tagging places in the US is what I’d
like to have for a MR challenge. As far as rural, in my rural CO area very few
of what I’d call ‘neighborhoods’ exist in OSM; I’ve added
As for Bryce's observation - Zillow does not have overlapping polygons as
far as I know, so it is by its nature sort of rigid - but then again this
is probably what they require for their use case, as there would be no way
to disambiguate.
Interesting in this context is the much-quoted example of
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
As for Bryce's observation - Zillow does not have overlapping polygons as
far as I know, so it is by its nature sort of rigid - but then again this
is probably what they require for their use case, as there would be no way
I think point features are definitely the way to go here - areas are nice
but have the drawback of being to rigid a delineation, as well as being
more difficult to map and maintain.
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 1:05 PM,
I'm interested in this, I recently posted a question on how to map
subdivisions, I'm using landuse=residential,name=Name of Subdivision to map
mine.
I think it's important that for US purposes, we can distinguish between HOA
managed subdivisions, which are defined as a legal entity, and all
I'm also in favor of using points for neighborhoods. Exact boundaries are
extremely subjective in some places. In places where they actually are
well-defined perhaps they are also different conceptually?
For example, in NYC we have fuzzy neighborhoods, of course, but we also
have community board
OSM has pretty poor neighborhood coverage in the
US. We have around 1100 place=neighbo[u]rhood.
Geonames has ten times that at 11,000 (feature
class P.PPLX - not sure if all of those are
neighborhoods) and Zillow has 7,000. Both these
data sets are provided under (different) CC
licenses.
But how would such a thing be tagged?
For instance, here in Portland, we have defined neighborhoods, which have
neighborhood associations, and a city bureau (the Office of Neighborhood
Involvement) dedicated to working with those organizations. They are, in a very
real, if not technically
Nathaniel Kelso David Blackman's presentation at #sotmus on Quattroshapes
might offer some guidance, at least with respect to a method. They used
Foursquare checkins and geotagged Flickr photos to calculate some
boundaries. Now, I am more likely to check in at Arlington (my city) than I
am in
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
OSM has pretty poor neighborhood coverage in the US. We have around 1100
place=neighbo[u]rhood. Geonames has ten times that at 11,000 (feature class
P.PPLX - not sure if all of those are neighborhoods) and Zillow has
One last thought. nextdoor.com is attempting to build on the concept of
neighborhoods. I wonder if we could partner with them to get more help
identifying their neighborhoods. Similar to Steve Coast's app that asked
people to pick the front door of a house. Imagine if we had a bunch of
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.orgwrote:
You'd end up with this:
http://bostonography.com/images/misc/neighborhoods_labeled.jpg
Discussed here:
http://bostonography.com/2012/wanted-your-map-of-boston-neighborhoods/
True. I suppose part of it is wanting
Martin,
In many Los Angeles neighborhoods, asking residents is not
feasible. Most are in cars, not walking. Some people wouldn't talk
to you, and many wouldn't know, given the transient nature of some
neighborhoods.
On the other hand, the City of Los Angeles has been
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:
Hiya,
I am not proposing an import, but a local MapRoulette
challenge might work where people with local knowledge accept / reject
proposed neighborhood points, or something along those lines.
I think neighborhoods are
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.orgwrote:
But how would such a thing be tagged?
By boundary, what's the next level below city?
For instance, here in Portland, we have defined neighborhoods, which have
neighborhood associations, and a city bureau (the Office
I'm really intrigued by this conversation.
Neighborhood identity is subjective - collectively defined by residents and
stakeholders (businesses, and other organizations) within and outside of
the neighborhood as well as governments, politicians, and the media.
Nonetheless, I believe they belong
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:47 PM, william skora skorasau...@gmail.comwrote:
Given the subjective, fluid nature of neighborhoods - especially
boundaries - where one neighborhood ends and one begins - may change from
person to person, they are best represented as a single node in the area
where
Organized by National 4-H? It's in DC area, so any of us in DC could help out.
But how to connect to them? Wonder if this is an ESRI related thing? I'd expect
to see their name on it if so.
* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
From: Steven
We have just finished video uploads from this weekend’s State of the Map US
sessions. This year we've made an effort to have solid video streaming and
recording with the intention to connect more people around the ideas shared
at the conference.
If you couldn’t make it to San Francisco or if you
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:38:29 -0500
From: Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org
To: Darrell Fuhriman darr...@garnix.org
Cc: Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org, OpenStreetMap Talk-US Mailing List
talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Neighborhoods / Zillow
Message-ID:
I imagine we can just hit them up with an email to get on their radar. Any DC
folks want to get involved in it?
I can reach out to GeoDC channels to see if anyone else is attending or has a
connection.
On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:
Organized by
I'd love to participate as well. Bonnie, if you reach out let us know what sort
of next steps are needed. I'll also mention this at Monday's GeoNYC. Thanks for
bringing this up as an idea!
Best,
Alyssa.
On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Bonnie Bogle bon...@mapbox.com wrote:
I imagine we can just
stevea,
Great work that you've done in your area with the neighborhood classification.
I would just caution that deriving Neighborhood boundaries solely
from the governments could be problematic because they don't
represent the other stakeholders (mentioned earlier) and in the case
of
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