[OSM-talk] How to overcome lack of consensus

2013-09-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
, Matthijs Melissen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Admin boundaries - data consumers

2013-11-09 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On Nov 9, 2013 5:39 PM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote; On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 03:25:35PM +, Rob Nickerson wrote: Perhaps some way of tracking our data consumers would be useful. Or maybe we need a way for them to say which tags they are interested in so that they can receive mail

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming changes - a reply to your feedback

2013-11-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
First of all, thanks for the nice redesign. Imho there should be a way to remove the Welcome-textbox, too. (for non-logged in users) I think it provides a nice impetus to create an account. :) To be honest, the welcome box annoys me as well, as a frequent JOSM-editor, and I think it would

Re: [OSM-talk] Tile refresh on openstreetmap.org

2014-03-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 28 February 2014 15:26, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 28/02/14 15:05, Christoph Hormann wrote: I have the impression the rerendering of tiles on openstreetmap.org is very slow at the moment - according to /status various z=11 tiles are from January 11. Also /dirty no more seems to

Re: [OSM-talk] Key:layer update

2014-03-09 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 9 March 2014 10:30, Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com wrote: for some time now I have been working on the wiki page to state the rules as clearly as possible.. hope that most of the improvements are fairly uncontroversial. Thank you for doing this, it's very useful to have this properly

[OSM-talk] Drop rendering of permissive access?

2014-06-30 Thread Matthijs Melissen
We are currently considering dropping the rendering of access=permissive (currently rendered as green dashes) from openstreetmap-carto, the main map on opensteetmap.org. See here for the discussion: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/682 We would welcome any feedback from

Re: [OSM-talk] Drop rendering of permissive access?

2014-07-22 Thread Matthijs Melissen
2014 22:23, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: We are currently considering dropping the rendering of access=permissive (currently rendered as green dashes) from openstreetmap-carto, the main map on opensteetmap.org. See here for the discussion: https://github.com/gravitystorm

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 23 July 2014 02:51, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: v2.17.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released, though not yet deployed on tile.osm.org. I would like to thank everyone for all comments, which are really helpful. Because there are so many comments about different

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 24 July 2014 05:17, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: I hope craft=* and office=* will follow. Would probably encourage more people to map them and report missing/wrong POIs. We are working on it, but there are still some issues to resolve. See

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 25 July 2014 12:52, Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote: * Cleaning up path rendering on low zooms (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/747) Is there any chance this could be tweaked slightly? A lot of the public footpaths near me are now disappearing completely at

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 25 July 2014 13:59, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson j...@betra.is wrote: I was under the impression more shops would be displayed than previously? So far I'm seeing fewer, a notable example being liquor stores that have now vanished from visual. Examples:

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Tom, On 25 July 2014 15:26, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Traditionally we have always said that out web site is aimed at supporting mappers and not at providing end user services like helping people navigate - we provide the data to let other people build services like that. I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Upcoming openstreetmap-carto changes (nature_reserve highway=services)

2014-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 25 July 2014 15:30, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: highway=services (ie service stations where you can get a drink/meal etc) as an area are rendering as a high level layer hiding detail such as car parks. Can this be put at a lower level? I created an issue for that here:

[OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road' signs, such as: - 'Private road' - 'Private road no parking' - 'Private road no parking no turning' - 'Residents only no unauthorised parking or turning' How do people tag these roads? For which of these would you use access=private?

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 3 August 2014 11:18, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road' signs, such as: - 'Private road' - 'Private road no parking' - 'Private road no parking no turning' - 'Residents only no unauthorised parking or turning' How do

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.18.0

2014-08-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.18.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released. Changes include: * Remove transparency from certain landuse tags (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/792) * Render lake names on lower zoom levels

Re: [OSM-talk] Using unit tags

2014-08-08 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 8 August 2014 16:58, Nathan Mixter nmix...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any way we can start using the addr:unit tag for buildings? This was approved several years ago but it still doesn't render yet. If both the addr:housenumber and addr:unit tags are used, the housenumber tag is still

Re: [OSM-talk] Incorrect speed limit anonymous notes - who is behind that?

2014-08-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
I see a lot of comments like this. The underlying problem seems to be that it is not clear whether notes are meant for armchair mappers, or for surveyors in the field. I think both types of notes are useful: that way the notes can serve as a two-way communication between mappers in the field (for

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes in the rendering

2014-08-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 10 August 2014 10:09, Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com wrote: - highway=platform is no longer rendered - railway=tram is no longer rendered if it shares a way with highway=* Are these bugs or a deliberate change? These are bugs, thanks for reporting. I created issues on Github for

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

2014-08-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
access=yes, skateboard=no, bicycle=careful? :) -- Matthijs On 10 August 2014 16:33, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matthijs, Spotted the following sign related to your tagging of private roads discussion the other day. Enjoy :-)

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 August 2014 17:47, Edward Betts edw...@4angle.com wrote: I've written some code to match items in Wikidata with items in OSM. Currently I have found 70,849 unique matches, where there is a one-to-one mapping between OSM and Wikidata objects. To clarify (this wasn't clear to me from your

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.19.0

2014-08-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.19.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released. It will be rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers in one of the next days. Changes include: * Improve rendering of labels of highway areas (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/865) *

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.19.0

2014-08-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 August 2014 19:02, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 27/08/14 18:49, Matthijs Melissen wrote: Today, v2.19.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released. It will be rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers in one of the next days. Actually it probably won't be rolled

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap-carto upgrade, new features, interesting issues

2014-09-07 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 7 September 2014 13:51, Gorm E. Johnsen osml...@gorm.cc wrote: Any changes to runways and taxiways? These seem to have an issue at the moment. Hard to tell at a glance due to cached tiles and rendering ques. But at least they were not rendered at zoom 15 at one recent point in time. There

Re: [OSM-talk] Wood Park mapnik carto anomaly?

2014-09-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 16 September 2014 11:25, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: I've mapped an area where a woodland overlaps with a park: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.48959/-2.52536 The new mapnik rendering doesn't display it. Here's a comparison with old new:

[OSM-talk] Proposed changes to landcover labelling in openstreetmap-carto

2014-09-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, We are currently working on changes in the rendering of landcover labels in openstreetmap-carto, the rendering that is used for the default map on www.openstreetmap.org. Before we roll out these changes, we would like to ask you for your feedback. A demo which allows you to compare

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.22.0

2014-10-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.22.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might take up to 48 hours before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * Major changes in landcover labelling. Landcover labels are now rendered

Re: [OSM-talk] Is the standard map down?

2014-10-09 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 9 October 2014 12:56, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: It appears the mapnik tiles server is down. I'm just getting a grey window for the rendering at the moment. Cycle/transport etc are displaying. Are others getting the same? Anybody able to sort the problem? I can confirm this

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] A Better Map

2014-10-22 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 22 October 2014 12:37, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Currently there are 130 Million buildings in OSM and 46 Million housenumbers. Do we know how many of these addresses come from imports? I wouldn't be surprised if over 90% of the housenumbers in OSM come from imports.

Re: [OSM-talk] The Working Groups need you!

2014-10-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 Oct 2014 16:16, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: With the recent interest in the OSMF, I'm hoping to capitalize on this and boost working group participation. Hi Paul, As I'm too lazy to look up the regulations, could you tell me whether working group members are required to be member

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.23.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might take up to 48 hours before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * Various small rendering changes to icon labels. * New icons for place of

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 29 October 2014 20:59, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: I guess it's not Matthijs who made this decision... That's correct. See https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/695 for more details. -- Matthijs ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.24.0

2014-11-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.24.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might take up to 48 hours before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * Improve legibility of shop names. * Better rendering of admin borders. *

[OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-26 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, We are considering to change the colour of buildings in openstreetmap-carto, the default rendering on openstreetmap.org. Because this change has a significant effect on the looks of the map, we would like to consult the community before going ahead with this change. A rendering demo

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-26 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 November 2014 at 02:03, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Question. I know this wasn't asked, but in the first link, http://bl.ocks.org/pnorman/raw/c61d6b11193081910866/#15.00/50.0611/19.9393, but some of the trees don't render in the new version, yet some do. I didn't look at

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 Nov 2014 09:18, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Not sure your demo is proving anything. Zooming in on the area covered by the demo on the live map I'm not seeing very much of the corruptions Have their been corruptions? I sm not sure what you are referring to. introduced by

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2014-11-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 November 2014 at 22:46, christian.pietz...@googlemail.com christian.pietz...@gmail.com wrote: in my opinion buildings could be slightly darker. It is visible enough on higher zoom levels but at zoom 14 and above its like there are no buildings. (Especially buildings inside industrial

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.25.0

2014-12-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.25.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might take up to 48 hours before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * New style for marsh/wetland rendering. * Added rendering for marsh/wetland

Re: [OSM-talk] Back on OSM

2014-12-19 Thread Matthijs Melissen
As this is a question specifically relating to the situation in the Netherlands, best to ask your question on the Dutch forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=12 -- Matthijs 2014-12-19 12:33 GMT+00:00 Peter pe...@out4walkabout.be: Hallo iedereen, Eindelijk nog eens vrije tijd

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2015-01-02 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 November 2014 at 01:16, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: We are considering to change the colour of buildings in openstreetmap-carto, the default rendering on openstreetmap.org. Because this change has a significant effect on the looks of the map, we would like

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.26.0

2015-01-02 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.26.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released. It will be rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers soon. Changes include: * Buildings are now rendered in a much lighter colour * Airport labels are rendered in a different colour * The tag natural=mud is

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.28.0

2015-02-08 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Yesterday, v2.28.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. This version includes the following changes: * The tags amenity=dentist and amenity=townhall are now rendered. * The tag natural=lake, which has fallen in disuse,

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 16 February 2015 at 19:20, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations to all those who were involved in getting directions/routing on openstreetmap.org :-) A large step forward, thanks to Richard Fairhurst and all others who made this possible! -- Matthijs

Re: [OSM-talk] How We Map

2015-02-12 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 10 February 2015 at 12:19, Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net wrote: I wish to float this draft page for discussion and possibly future approval! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map I welcome this page, I think it is very useful. One small comment - I oppose the following sentence:

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.27.0

2015-01-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.27.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. Changes include: * The following tags are now rendered: amenity=food_court, amenity=doctors, natural=scree, natural=shingle, natural=bare_rock, leisure=water_park,

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.26.1

2015-01-06 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.26.1 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. This version only includes one change: * Areas tagged with amenity=place_of_worship and no building tag are rendered again. For a full list of commits, see

Re: [OSM-talk] Request for feedback: new building colours in openstreetmap-carto

2015-01-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
on the list, I wouldn't be able to write a single line of code. I hope I'm striking the right balance. Kind regards, Matthijs On 27 November 2014 at 01:16, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: Dear all, We are considering to change the colour of buildings in openstreetmap-carto

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting on voting system for proposals

2015-03-18 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 18 March 2015 at 21:43, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Paul, Since you are involved with updating the rendering, can you tell us the process to decide what should be rendered? I realize that part of it must be stylistic, but what outside influences cause you to include a tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-27 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 27 February 2015 at 14:30, JB jb...@mailoo.org wrote: On http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-notes-overview, I prefer the first graph, showing how the notes db is already getting clustered I find the page in fact a bit hard to read (but apart from that very useful). What is the difference

Re: [OSM-talk] Formal proposal: mechanically reverting fixme=set␣better␣denotation / denotation=cluster

2015-03-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 March 2015 at 21:04, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: This is now a formal proposal to mechanically remove: denotation=cluster fixme=set␣better␣denotation From 200,000+ nodes. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Bryce_C_Nesbitt I support this proposal.

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard rendering totally fuzzy for countries boundaries

2015-02-26 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 26 February 2015 at 12:39, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to know where is the good door to knock on to report an issue with the OSM standard rendering. For a few months, it became totally fuzzy regarding the countries boundaries, almost preventing to distinguish

Re: [OSM-talk] Standard rendering totally fuzzy for countries boundaries

2015-02-26 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 26 February 2015 at 13:56, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Do the people in charge of the rendering plan to solve this? The UI is improving more and more, would be great if the standard map becomes fully understandable. Yes, we're planning to solve this (it is bothering me

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki project: Article about the standard layer, with key

2015-04-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 20 April 2015 at 13:27, Wuzzy wuz...@mail.ru wrote: I have created a wiki page about the Standard layer found on www.openstreetmap.org Here it is: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Standard_tile_layer Thanks for that! I think Andy was also trying to create an updated map key, but I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki project: Article about the standard layer, with key

2015-04-26 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 26 April 2015 at 16:11, colliar colliar4e...@aol.com wrote: Nice work so far, but are the any plans on carto side and on the wiki side to support the taginfo feature projects ? From the carto side not at the moment, see https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/961 . It is

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.30.0

2015-05-13 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 14 May 2015 at 00:34, pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote: On 13 May 2015 at 21:32, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: There already is an icon for shop=bicycle. There's already an icon for amenity=courthouse Thanks for the corrections Dave and Mike, shop=bicycle and

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.30.0

2015-05-13 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.30.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. This version includes the following changes: * New wetland rendering, including differentiation based on the wetland key. * Added rendering for amenity=bicycle_parking. * Added

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Semi Mechanical Edit : recycling:excrement

2015-04-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Good idea, I support this proposal. -- Matthijs On 17 Apr 2015 02:14, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Bryce_C_Nesbitt The tag recycling:excrement is used 55 times, and has at least four distinct meanings. I propose to use

Re: [OSM-talk] Best base to build on ...

2015-08-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 15 August 2015 at 17:14, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: The obvious question is that given tilemill is not longer being maintained, what are the preferred alternatives? Depending on what you need exactly, Kosmtik might be an alternative: https://github.com/kosmtik/kosmtik --

Re: [OSM-talk] Issue-Tracker for http[s]://www.openstreetmap.org

2015-07-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 16 July 2015 at 15:22, Karl-Philipp Richter rich...@richtercloud.de wrote: Is there an issue tracker for http[s]://www.openstreetmap.org or have there ever been any plans for such a useful and straightforward way of introducing improvements (it'd be not exposed in a mail list archive

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-10-30 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.36.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might still take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * Major rewrite of road and railway rendering, as part of Mateusz

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-10-30 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 30 October 2015 at 22:01, Matthijs Melissen <i...@matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote: > - shop=pharmacy (use office=pharmacy) This should be amenity=pharmacy instead of office=pharmacy, of course. -- Matthijs ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Map key

2015-10-17 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 17 October 2015 at 10:45, Lester Caine wrote: > On 17/10/15 09:03, nebulon42 wrote: >> I don't know an ETA of this change on the tile servers yet as it is a >> quite major change. Others may be able to comment on that. > > Is this ACTUALLY a 'done deal'? I though there was

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-08-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 31 August 2015 at 11:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > See > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny/surface%3Dsoil_to_surface%3Ddirt > > I plan to change surface=soil to surface=dirt. surface=soil is a clear > duplicate of surface=dirt. It is

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.35.0

2015-09-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.35.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might still take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * Add new icon for ford * Stop rendering of landuse=conservation *

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.35.0

2015-09-16 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 16 September 2015 at 23:30, Tom Hughes <t...@compton.nu> wrote: > On 16/09/15 21:59, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > >> Today, v2.35.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been >> released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might >> still take a c

Re: [OSM-talk] recent changes in rendering the map make it worse

2015-09-22 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi Henk, On 22 September 2015 at 12:43, henk van der laan wrote: > Over the past couple of month some big changes in the rendering of the > map have been made. > These changes do not improve the readabillity of the map, and despite > it's good intentions do not seem to take

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.37.0

2015-11-30 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.37.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might still take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * Improved admin boundaries and labels on low zoom levels * New

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.40.0

2016-06-22 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v2.40.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * More consistent size of icon

Re: [OSM-talk] Applicability of wiki tagging and votes: may, should or must

2016-01-28 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 28 January 2016 at 20:16, David Marchal wrote: > On a GitHub issue > (https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2027#issuecomment-174443685), > I've been told that Wiki tagging votes are only advisory and that the > community is only invited, neither required

Re: [OSM-talk] Applicability of wiki tagging and votes: may, should or must

2016-01-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 29 January 2016 at 17:37, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > "but that's not much to do with tagging diversity" - I would dispute > it, from my personal experience. Tagging diversity IS one of real > problems in using OSM data. +1. -- Matthijs

[OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.38.0

2016-02-18 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Yesterday, v2.38.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet has been released and rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. It might still take a couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include: * Add rendering for natural=shoal, and natural=reef. * Change of

[OSM-talk] Go Map!: Mobile mapping on iOS

2016-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi all, I always used to be quite sceptical about mobile mapping applications. Due to the small screen size and lack of a mouse pointer, mobile mapping seemed clumsy and error-prone. For me, collecting data in the field and then adding it on a personal computer with JOSM was the way to go.

Re: [OSM-talk] Go Map!: Mobile mapping on iOS

2016-07-25 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 26 July 2016 at 01:51, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I can't speak to the qualities of Go Map! but I think your review should > also mention the fact that this is proprietary software - it doesn't > cost anything but you can't look at the source. In that, it is different > from

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.42.0

2016-08-03 Thread Matthijs Melissen
://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues. Kind regards, Matthijs Melissen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Viewing pre-redaction OSM tiles?

2016-07-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 14 July 2016 at 21:16, Pierre Béland wrote: > Michal, you might have seen my OSMCompare slider map where I use the FOSM > layer for comparison. > > http://pierzen.dev.openstreetmap.org/hot/leaflet/OSM-Compare-before-after.html#10/27.9083/85.5286 Nice work, inspired on this

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 11 July 2016 at 01:08, Frederik Ramm wrote: > The automated edits code of conduct is there for a reason; had user > Test360 complied with it, then his edit would likely not have been > faulty My main issue with the AEcoc is that it is nearly impossible to comply with,

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 10 July 2016 at 23:26, Éric Gillet wrote: > What are your thoughts ? I fully agree with all your points. I think a wider community discussion on the current guidelines is necessary. -- Matthijs ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Notes pollutie

2017-02-18 Thread Matthijs Melissen
2017-02-18 15:33 GMT+01:00 Philippe Casteleyn : > Iedereen spreekt altijd over lokale kennis, maar verkiest toch buitenlandse > inmenging. Een kleine opheldering, met 'lokale kennis' wordt bedoeld kennis van iemand die ter plaatse is geweest om te kijken hoe de

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Notes pollutie in Brussel

2017-02-13 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Beste Philippe, Allereerst zou ik je willen vragen je toon aan te passen. Je komt erg onbeleefd en agressief over, dat lijkt me niet nuttig voor een productieve discussie. Ik snap ook niet niet wat mijn woonplaats met de rest van de discussie te maken heeft; die is in elk geval zeker niet geheim,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Notes pollutie in Brussel

2017-02-13 Thread Matthijs Melissen
2017-02-13 13:49 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe : > Ik had bij de laatste meetup in Brussel bij drie van die Notes info > toegevoegd om ze te kunnen sluiten. Sorry, die waren er tussendoor geglipt, dat doe ik normaal inderdaad wel. Ik heb ze nu alsnog verwerkt. -- Matthijs

[OSM-talk] Analysis of usage of similar tags over time

2016-08-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi all, Recently, a new tool was created by Martin Raifer (@tyrasd) to generate graphs of the usage of tags over time. This is a great tool that gives us more insight in what drives the choice of tags by mappers. The tool can be found at http://taghistory.raifer.tech/. I wrote an OSM diary to

[OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-08-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi, We have currently a Map Features page on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features The page also contains definitions for all features. We therefore store the definitions now in two places: in the map features tables and in the infoboxes on the pages themselves. Duplication

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 09:01, Jochen Topf wrote: > And feel free to tell me if you need anything more or different. What it > does at the moment is what I thought might be useful and doable. That > doesn't mean this is the best solution. As a firs step, I included the list

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On Thursday, 1 September 2016, Jochen Topf <joc...@remote.org> wrote: > On Do, Sep 01, 2016 at 12:42:10 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > We have currently a Map Features page on the wiki: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features > > > > The page

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 10:01, Matthijs Melissen <i...@matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote: > As a firs step, I included the list here on the Geological map features page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geological > it seems to work well there. As there are some problems with t

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-01 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 15:05, Jochen Topf wrote: > What are the problems with translations? I didn't realise the non-English Map Features templates include the English Map Features template. Nothing we can't fix, but simply putting TagLists in the English

Re: [OSM-talk] Mailing lists archive not in Google

2016-08-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 31 August 2016 at 18:32, Andy Townsend wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something, but a web search of e.g. "something > site:https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/; finds relevant posts? > Is there something I'm not understanding here? You're right, something must have

[OSM-talk] Mailing lists archive not in Google

2016-08-31 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Hi, The mailing list archives at https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/ are currently not indexed by Google. I suppose this is caused by the tag that is included in every page of the archive. Would it be possible to remove this tag? I think it would be very useful if the mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 September 2016 at 09:53, François Lacombe wrote: > You deal with pages like Template:Map_Features/XXX but power template is > currently known as Template:Map_Features:power > Have we to rename the template to Template:Map_Features/Power ? Yes, for the moment it

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-23 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 21 September 2016 at 09:25, Jochen Topf <joc...@remote.org> wrote: > On Mi, Sep 21, 2016 at 01:33:28 +0200, Matthijs Melissen wrote: >> On 1 September 2016 at 15:04, Jochen Topf <joc...@remote.org> wrote: >> > So, if somebody adds the rendering to the infobox (and

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 15:04, Jochen Topf wrote: > So, if somebody adds the rendering to the infobox (and tells me about it), > I'll pull that data from taginfo and can put it in the taglist tables. I added it to the infobox as osmcarto-rendering. It is currently only used in

Re: [OSM-talk] Map features page on wiki

2016-09-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 1 September 2016 at 10:01, Matthijs Melissen <i...@matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote: > As a firs step, I included the list here on the Geological map features page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geological > it seems to work well there. We now have TagList templates for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Taglists support for rendering examples

2016-11-10 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 6 November 2016 at 12:52, Jochen Topf wrote: > I have now added support to taginfo for showing an example rendering in > the taglists on the wiki. Thanks, that's great! > Note that the "osmcarto-rendering-size" setting in the infobox is not used. > That setting is really

Re: [OSM-talk] Taglists support for rendering examples

2016-11-13 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 6 November 2016 at 12:52, Jochen Topf wrote: > I have now added support to taginfo for showing an example rendering in > the taglists on the wiki. I enabled this functionality now on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features/man_made . We now have TagList

Re: [OSM-talk] Taglists support for rendering examples

2016-11-15 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 14 November 2016 at 02:22, Matthijs Melissen <i...@matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote: > I have now added support to taginfo for showing an example rendering in > the taglists on the wiki. I have included some TagList templates now on the main Map Features page, as well on the individual

Re: [OSM-talk] Mozambique's living streets

2016-12-11 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 11 December 2016 at 01:15, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > But participants > in the thread were mostly experienced with French-speaking Africa - so I > cannot rule out the existence of a living street legal classification in > other locales. At least South Africa seems to have

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Trademark Policy

2017-08-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 3 August 2017 at 23:07, Simon Poole wrote: > The LWG would like to start a period of public review and consultation on > our draft trademark policy, that we intend to bring forward to the OSMF > board for adoption as a formal policy, please see the text here: The proposed

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.3.1

2017-05-22 Thread Matthijs Melissen
Dear all, Today, v3.3.1 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. This version includes a single change: * Fix a regression in intermittent waterways For a full list of commits, see

Re: [OSM-talk] Old-style multipolygon cleanup is done!

2017-05-04 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 4 May 2017 at 16:30, Jochen Topf wrote: > The old-style multipolygon relations are history! In not even two months > the OSM community cleaned up all of the nearly a quarter million > relations. You can see the it here: >

[OSM-talk] Label language on the Default stylesheet

2017-09-24 Thread Matthijs Melissen
on this issue can be found on Github: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/803 I'm looking forward to your opinions. Kind regards, Matthijs Melissen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

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