, 10/8/09, mistertaterbug wrote:
From: mistertaterbug
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
To: "Taterbugmando"
Date: Thursday, October 8, 2009, 1:20 PM
Right. The whole point of having this group is so's people can talk to
each other about this mandolin obsession we
him, how much time
> you spent with him, what he was like as a teacher or whatever. It should be
> more enjoyable than the griping and bashing.
>
> I usually lurk, so this is worth way more than .02
>
> Bulldog
>
>
> --- On Wed, 10/7/09, mistertaterbug wrote:
>
+1
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Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
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about Monroe and how you got to meet him,
> how much time you spent with him, what he was like as a teacher or
> whatever. It should be more enjoyable than the griping and bashing.
>
> I usually lurk, so this is worth way more than .02
>
> Bulldog
>
>
> --- On Wed, 10/
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I usually lurk, so this is worth way more than .02
Bulldog
--- On Wed, 10/7/09, mistertaterbug wrote:
From: mistertaterbug
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
To: "Taterbugmando"
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:00 AM
Ready when you are, boy. What you got?
Tat
There's a button you can push Mike... it's the one with a picture of a
pillow with a dollar sign on it.
B
On Oct 7, 10:50 am, Michael Hedding wrote:
> screw my playing, I want to be coddled, is there an appropriate box I
> can check so you'll make the necessary adjustments in your teaching
>
This is, in fact, the entire point of teaching if the teacher is worth
his or her NaCl: The teacher aims--or should--for the student be better
than him. There are many ways this can be done, of course, some not
very savory. Witness the multitudes of stories about learning classical
music fr
Too bad we can't go to work for Jimmy Martin anymore
On Oct 7, 10:35 am, Dasspunk wrote:
> Reading this thread, I keep thinking of old karate movies where the
> master treats the student like crap and beats their ass until they
> learn and improve.
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screw my playing, I want to be coddled, is there an appropriate box I
can check so you'll make the necessary adjustments in your teaching
style?
On 10/7/09, ljt wrote:
>
> I appreciate the encouragement.
>
> On Oct 8, 1:57 am, mistertaterbug wrote:
>> I think you're letting yourself get in a st
I appreciate the encouragement.
On Oct 8, 1:57 am, mistertaterbug wrote:
> I think you're letting yourself get in a stew here, ljt. I can't say
> that I understand quite what your aggravation is. We're all frustrated
> and overcome by the process of learning how to express ourselves with
> tones
Reading this thread, I keep thinking of old karate movies where the
master treats the student like crap and beats their ass until they
learn and improve. Interestingly, while watching these movies, I don't
typically side with the student :) do you? In that same respect, I
have a hard time empathiz
> From: ljt
> Subject: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
> To: "Taterbugmando"
> Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 9:42 AM
>
> :)
>
> On Oct 8, 12:22 am, ljt wrote:> I guess those poor dumb
> folks who fronted up with their money in hopes
> > of lea
I think you're letting yourself get in a stew here, ljt. I can't say
that I understand quite what your aggravation is. We're all frustrated
and overcome by the process of learning how to express ourselves with
tones, no matter how far or short we've come. I can say that with
confidence. I am in it
Ok, enuf Grier and Skaggs. Lets get back on topic, lest we forget..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aWZcZ67ZQw&feature=channel
--- On Wed, 10/7/09, ljt wrote:
From: ljt
Subject: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
To: "Taterbugmando"
Date: Wednesday, October 7,
:)
On Oct 8, 12:22 am, ljt wrote:
> I guess those poor dumb folks who fronted up with their money in hopes
> of learning something just have no dang reason to live ..what so ever.
>
> On Oct 8, 12:15 am, Will Dennis wrote:
>
> > Does Grier normally do workshops? Being a great player does not
>
I guess those poor dumb folks who fronted up with their money in hopes
of learning something just have no dang reason to live ..what so ever.
On Oct 8, 12:15 am, Will Dennis wrote:
> Does Grier normally do workshops? Being a great player does not
> necesarrily equate to being a good teacher. (c
Does Grier normally do workshops? Being a great player does not
necesarrily equate to being a good teacher. (caveat before I get
slammed - I'm not specifically talking about Grier here.) I am also in
IT, and realize the challenges when someone wants to learn something
in 5 minutes that took me a y
, 6 Oct 2009 18:40:56 -0700
> Subject: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
> From: lj...@intas.net.au
> To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
>
>
> The very painful truth is one does not know what they do not
> know...sometimes.
> linda
>
> On Oct 7, 12:21 pm, mistertater
The very painful truth is one does not know what they do not
know...sometimes.
linda
On Oct 7, 12:21 pm, mistertaterbug wrote:
> There is a lot of ground being covered here that explains a lot of
> things WAY better than I could explain it. I am happy to see people
> able to express so many aspe
There is a lot of ground being covered here that explains a lot of
things WAY better than I could explain it. I am happy to see people
able to express so many aspects of this topic, because it all hits
home. I am sure that it comes as no surprise that I have been less
than cordial on occasion, an
Very good observations/comments, Tud. Hit it on the head, did you?
Taterbug
On Oct 6, 10:45 am, Tud Jones wrote:
> A couple of thoughts...
>
> As to teaching and workshops, a successful teacher needs to have
> good people skills . Teaching is, in my opinion, an extension of the
> entertainm
Bill,
Fair enough. David is very straight forward, granted, but I have seen
both sides. There's plenty of both.
Bugs
On Oct 6, 9:11 am, Bill Burnette wrote:
> The experience I shared was admittedly a first impression. If I got to know
> David like you do Mike, my opinion might be changed. My com
Tell us how you really feel! heheh! :)
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:42 AM, 14strings wrote:
>
> To me the biggest benefit of a workshop is witnessing the sound your
> teacher makes with his/her instrument in a small room. If it's
> intimate enough there is nothing like sitting a few feet away from
To me the biggest benefit of a workshop is witnessing the sound your
teacher makes with his/her instrument in a small room. If it's
intimate enough there is nothing like sitting a few feet away from the
player and his instrument.
Aside from that I've learned very little at workshops often because
Romkey, you said it well...especially about the magical powers...
On Oct 7, 3:05 am, Romkey wrote:
> No, not Skaggs again!! (g)
>
> A few observations, if I may be so bold, from someone who has both
> attended workshops and taught them (writing, not music):
>
> 1. Workshops and lessons are u
My experience is that everyone starts out with their own unique reason
and understanding, and one way or another, they fumble around, get
some ah ha moments, then stumble around some more, figure out some
things and keep on ..at it till they get where they want to be.
In workshops, so far, the be
No, not Skaggs again!! (g)
A few observations, if I may be so bold, from someone who has both
attended workshops and taught them (writing, not music):
1. Workshops and lessons are useful to a certain (smaller rather than
greater) extent, but ultimately the thing that counts is hard work by
i
I can say that I am polite and professional to everyone who comes to me for
support at my job. I have to be- or I will be working somewhere else. That's
my point really- we don't always like dealing with the people we have to
deal with, but I don't think there is any excuse for being rude to them.
Seems this thread confirms that Grier (like the rest of us) is human. I
suspect he'd confirm this as well, we all have moments we shine and moments
we are surly. Hopefully more in the light. I suspect Grier wouldn't deny
this and from my limited view he seems a well studied and reasonable man wh
A couple of thoughts...
As to teaching and workshops, a successful teacher needs to have
good people skills . Teaching is, in my opinion, an extension of the
entertainment biz. I think that in reality, teaching can be as much
about counseling, listening and entertaining as it is about real
e
On Oct 6, 8:08 am, Bill Burnette wrote:
>
> Haven't taken any lessons since- not sure I agree with his
> assessment though- still seems I'm missing something...
>
> Bill
My bet is you could still learn a LOT from Roland if you went back to
him.
I've read all your posts on this (David Greer) su
Isn't anyone who attends a workshop or takes any kind of lessons looking for
some information, insight, or if you want to call it that, shortcut they may
be missing? They don't know what it is- they just know the folks they are
seeking enlightenment from have something they don't seem to have. Mayb
Hmmm, I stated "based on my one experience, I'm not a fan..." I think that
indicates that what is to follow is an opinion based on a first impression
from what I observed. At least that was my intent.
Bill
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:25 AM, David Long wrote:
> Bill,
> You have to admit, your comme
In my opinion, being naive about what it takes to become as
accomplished and people like Grier and Compton is part of the
development of any musician.
I would have a hard time believing anyone truly knows the depth of
what they are undertaking when they are first starting and part of
being a beg
Bill,
You have to admit, your comment was more of an assertion rather than an
observation. By all means, deny yourself David's music. It just leaves an
extra seat for those of us who can see beyond these sorts of things.
Miles
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Bill Burnette wrote:
> The exp
The experience I shared was admittedly a first impression. If I got to know
David like you do Mike, my opinion might be changed. My comments were made
on the heels of the thread about various people's experiences with Ricky
Skaggs, and my one and only experience with David was much the same as many
Agreed. But without knowing what was going on with everyone there,
energy levels, mental state, blah, blah, blah, including David Grier,
it would be impossible to make a fair call. Could be that your
interpretation of his answer was not entirely accurate, maybe so. But
I'm sure you wouldn't be wil
Mike,
I'm sure David is a very bright individual. He's also very talented and
accomplished. I don't see how that excuses the behavior that I witnessed.
People who attend workshops are seeking to gain some insight or learn
something from the people on the panel. By agreeing to participate in the
pan
Bill,
You might do a little thinking on the kinds of questions that are
asked in workshops and to whom they're asked. The persons you have
named all have spent years learning how to do what they do. Most of
the folks you named don't do a lot of workshops because they don't
have to. Some to them ne
> guitar player anywhere.
>
> > Clyde Clevenger
> > Just My Opinion, But It's Right
> > Salem, Oregon
> > Old Circle
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bill Burnette"
> > To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
> > Sen
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> Salem, Oregon
> Old Circle
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill Burnette"
> To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:46:34 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: Mike and David Radio Interview
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ywhere.
Clyde Clevenger
Just My Opinion, But It's Right
Salem, Oregon
Old Circle
- Original Message -
From: "Bill Burnette"
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:46:34 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Mike and David R
I have to say based on my one experience, I'm not a fan of David Grier the
man. I attended a workshop at IBMA a couple of years ago and he acted like
it was the last place he wanted to be. Whenever someone asked him a
question, he acted like it was the stupidest question he'd ever heard. Other
memb
Man, you gotta love these guy's. David's non PC explanation of
"listening" and how how many writers of tab are not good musicians
"thats why they're writing books"
How right you are...great job to both these guys. Both are
my favorite and heavily listened too.
JM
On Sep 29, 4:05 pm,
It was fun to hear and would have liked to hear more talking from the
twosome. Are we expecting an onslaught of cd's from the Tater? If so, hear
hear. The world surely and sorely needs it.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Jonas Mattebo wrote:
>
> Thanks for this! I enjoyed the interview, crappy p
Thanks for this! I enjoyed the interview, crappy phone line and all...
I just wish I could see a show! Both David and Mike are favourites of
mine.
/Jonas
29 sep 2009 kl. 18.17 skrev Dasspunk:
>
> Fred I'm surprised y'all don't have more interest in this sort of
> thing up your way. On the
that was a fun listen, thanks for the link Brian. +1 on the enjoying another
Compton & Grier album...or a live recording...
From: Don Grieser
To: taterbugmando@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:54:18 PM
Subject: Re: Mike and David R
Thanks for the link, Brian. Good to hear those fellers talking on the
radio just like they would in person. Wish I could be there and take
in the show. Last time I saw them was up in Colorado a couple years
ago. I'd sure enjoy another Compton & Grier CD, too.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Das
Fred I'm surprised y'all don't have more interest in this sort of
thing up your way. On the other hand, your "professional" football
team wears purple. Purple!
Here's the interview if folks missed it... Compton and Grier live from
the Road Master!
http://titsh.com/compton.grier.interview.mp3
B
Good time! Wish our local radio heads were a tad more interested in
doing this. If any of you Twin Cities folks want to help out, give a
call to KFAI (our best shot at a roots interview)--Pam Kolapailo or
Dakota Dave Hull at 612-341-3144, their main number.
We've been sending them messages w
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