Re: 3022 is awesome

2004-10-28 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Friday, October 29, 2004, 01:23, Michael L. Wilson wrote: > I love the bat! I love 3.0.2.2. It is fast, stable and wonderful. Confirmed, too. :) -- Kveðja, Thorvald Neumann | | The Bat! v3.0.2.2 Rush Professional & PopFile v0.22.0 | Windows 2000 SP4 (v5.0.2195) +---

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 7:59:07 PM [GMT -0500], Arjan De Groot wrote: > Then set the release version to leave messages on the server. Don't worry about him. :) -- -= Allie =- . If it walks out of your refrigerator, LET IT GO !! __ IMA

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Mic Cullen
At 19:37 [GMT+0200] on Thursday October 28 (actual time - 1:37am on Friday in Perth, Western Australia), you wrote: [snips] >>> Then, don't volunteer to beta test. Period. :) >> Pff. Great suggestion, sir. However it doesn't solve the problem, does >> it. Alexander> But it does - no one forces

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Bill McCarthy
On Thu 28-Oct-04 10:04pm -0400, Nick Andriash wrote: > On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 8:02:50 PM, Tony wrote: >> Can't say I agree with anything you wrote, this is >> about the best, fastest and so far, most efficient >> and capable version I've used for years. > Perhaps, but there are an awf

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Nick Andriash
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 8:02:50 PM, Tony wrote: > Can't say I agree with anything you wrote, this is about the best, fastest > and so far, most efficient and capable version I've used for years. Perhaps, but there are an awful lot of users such as myself who are unable to even close Th

Re: 3022 is awesome

2004-10-28 Thread Leif Gregory
Hi Michael, On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, at 16:23:18 [GMT -0700] (which was 5:23 PM where I live) you wrote: MLW> I love the bat! I love 3.0.2.2. It is fast, stable and wonderful. MLW> I have tested it on three machines, all different brands, with no MLW> problems. Wonderful release. Confirmed. -- Le

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:16:49 +0200, MAU wrote: >>Set the test client to leave messages on the server. >No, because if I do I will _not_ be using my normal working >environment as I never leave messages on server. Then set the release version to leave messages on the server. Arjan -- [Non-text

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Arjan de Groot
On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:19:32 +0200, MAU wrote: >I know _I_ am taking a risk by doing what I describe in my >reply to Allie , >but how else can I test TB with all the accounts, filters, >templates, QTs, etc., that I normally use for my work? You could do that: 1) by running

Re[2]: current NOD32 plugin

2004-10-28 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, October 13, 2004, Miroslav Florensen wrote: > http://bat-mail.de.vu/download.html » PlugIns » Anti-Virus PlugIns » NOD 32 > [94 KB] http://thebat.orgavision.de/zip/nod32.zip this is very old version, last one can be downloaded here for example: http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni

Re: 3022 is awesome

2004-10-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Roelof! On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 6:29 PM, you wrote: MLW>> I love the bat! I love 3.0.2.2. It is fast, stable and wonderful. RO> Confirmed. Confirmed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.0.2.2 Rush on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2

Re: 3022 is awesome

2004-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Michael, On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:23:18 -0700GMT (29-10-2004, 1:23 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MLW> I love the bat! I love 3.0.2.2. It is fast, stable and wonderful. Confirmed. -- Groetjes, Roelof sorry, I don't date outside my species The Bat! 3.0.2.2 Rush Windows XP 5.1 Build 26

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo MAU, On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:16:49 +0200GMT (29-10-2004, 1:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: >> Set the test client to leave messages on the server. M> No, because if I do I will _not_ be using my normal working environment M> as I never leave messages on server. I know you're using Merc

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Zygmunt Wereszczynski
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 19:06:42 [UTC-0400] (Friday, October 29, 2004 01:06 my local time) Peter Gannushkin wrote: M>> Yes, I understood it has to do with LCD monitors. But I have an LCD M>> monitor and had never heard about it, therefore my question. And, as I M>> can see in the link you

3022 is awesome

2004-10-28 Thread Michael L. Wilson
TB BETA ERS, I love the bat! I love 3.0.2.2. It is fast, stable and wonderful. I have tested it on three machines, all different brands, with no problems. Wonderful release. -- Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' informati

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, > Set the test client to leave messages on the server. No, because if I do I will _not_ be using my normal working environment as I never leave messages on server. Anyway, don't worry about me. There have been times in the past, and may be in the future, that I do not engage in beta

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hello MAU, >> Something specific to LCD monitors. >> http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx M> Yes, I understood it has to do with LCD monitors. But I have an LCD M> monitor and had never heard about it, therefore my question. And, as I M> can see in the link you provided, it is

Re: Has "Recipient" definition changed in v3.0.2.2?

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Max, > These changes are probably related to the recently fixed bug: > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3928 I thought about it, but that report _clearly_ refers to 'Header Field' condition. Anyway, let's wait and see if 9Val says something. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Esc

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Alexander, A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on: 28 October 2004 at 19:36:55 GMT +0200 ASK> But it does - no one forces you to participate in the beta test program, ASK> aye? With all due respect, it doesn't solve the problem. Beta testing involves finding problems and repor

Re: SOT: Problems with PowerPro macros (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 03:53 PM, MAU wrote: > Not really. When I get a new program I usually try to see what it > can do and what options it has but PowerPro has so many! I > learnt enough to write a few keyboard macros and add some buttons > and menus to TB and then forgot all abou

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 04:19 PM, MAU wrote: > Maxxx, I understand what you want. But I think that if you want to > beta test you _have_ to take some risk and use the software in a > real working environment. I know _I_ am taking a risk by doing what > I describe in my reply to Allie > <

Re: Has "Recipient" definition changed in v3.0.2.2?

2004-10-28 Thread Max Shirshin
Hello MAU, These changes are probably related to the recently fixed bug: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3928 Maybe the fix was achieved by changing the meaning of "Recipient"? I can't test it on my machine because I still use the release version... M> I have a number of filters that che

Re: CC tends to get stuck while using both IMAP and POP3

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 04:52 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: > I've been trying IMAP for a while and I was not very enthusiastic > about the behaviour of the CC. .. explanation of problem snipped for brevity. > These events were reproducible with 3.0.1.33, 3.0.2.1 and 3.0.2.2 > However, after

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 04:03 PM, Peter Gannushkin wrote: > Something specific to LCD monitors. > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx Though designed for LCD monitors, it makes a great difference on CRT monitors. I couldn't do without it while using my last CRT monito

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Roelof, On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 00:02:22 +0200GMT (29-10-2004, 0:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PG>> Look at those screenshots. When the email is created on the computer PG>> with the LCD monitor TB! starts to screw up part of the status bar. If PG>> I start clicking to the, lets say, "Eng

Re: Bug 3.0.2.2 (Rush): Virtual folders not updating

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, > In this and in at least one previous version, TB! does not update > read/unread status for VFs. They have been set as Auto Update - but > they still show as bolded after the messages they contain have been > read in their original/real folders. On Esc all is OK. Confirmed here.

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Peter, On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:22:05 -0400GMT (28-10-2004, 17:22 +0200, where I live), you wrote: PG> Look at those screenshots. When the email is created on the computer PG> with the LCD monitor TB! starts to screw up part of the status bar. If PG> I start clicking to the, lets say, "Englis

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Peter, >>> Have you tried disabling ClearType? >> What is "ClearType", something specific to XP? > > Something specific to LCD monitors. > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx Yes, I understood it has to do with LCD monitors. But I have an LCD monitor and had never heard

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo Tim, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:16:27 -0400GMT (28-10-2004, 4:16 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TC> This is the worst I have seen. Can't confirm. I absolutely love it. Starts fast, exits as a breeze. I don't use any VF's though and I read that they're not functioning optimally. -- Groetj

CC tends to get stuck while using both IMAP and POP3

2004-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo tbbeta, I've been trying IMAP for a while and I was not very enthusiastic about the behaviour of the CC. Mind that I was using both POP3 and IMAP to the same server over my LAN. I could check mail for both accounts without any troubles, exit afterwards without getting stuck as long

Has "Recipient" definition changed in v3.0.2.2?

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello all, I have a number of filters that check on "Recipient contains..." conditions. These filters have been working for ages with OFS and as automatically converted to NFS a couple of months ago, with no problem until this beta. Today I have noticed some messages were not sorted to proper fold

Beta testing (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo MaXxX, On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:55:34 +0200GMT (28-10-2004, 19:55 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M> I'm asking for a way to make betatesting easier, as it was for the M> short time between introducing the /REG parameter and turning to MSI M> installations. Well, you could always configure

Re: Question about Virtual Folders

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, > BTW I noticed you have no references in your reply. Is this by design. > It did not thread on my end. Look at his message headers: > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.2 Rush on Windows 2000

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello MaXxX, >> Then, don't volunteer to beta test. Period. :) > > Pff. Great suggestion, sir. However it doesn't solve the problem, does > it. Maxxx, I understand what you want. But I think that if you want to beta test you _have_ to take some risk and use the software in a real working environ

Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available

2004-10-28 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all, Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 9Val wrote: > The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available from > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ > Here is a short list of changes: and [+] Confirmation dialog for opening/replying more than 10 messages :-) -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http:/

Re[2]: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Tim Casten
Hello Alexander, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 1:37:51 PM, you wrote: > But it does - no one forces you to participate in the beta test program, > aye? You are absolutely right they don't unless the company releases a beta product as an official release, as we have recently experienced. -- Best

Re[2]: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Tim Casten
Hello Allie, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 6:07:45 AM, you wrote: > You're using the backup utility to create backups that you restore from? This was a backup that I had about 2 weeks ago. > I've never done a complete uninstall of TB! since using it in 1999. I've > usually just switched executabl

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hi MAU, >> Have you tried disabling ClearType? > What is "ClearType", something specific to XP? Something specific to LCD monitors. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/

Re: Threading and Sorting Problem

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Stuart, > I normally read my tbbeta using Thread by Reference and sort by > Created in Reverse order. I just noticed that my sorting seemed a > bit odd so I just checked. Even though the little arrow in the > header bar was pointing up in the Created column when I checked in > Mana

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Alexander, > Have you tried disabling ClearType? What is "ClearType", something specific to XP? -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.2 Rush on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current bet

Re: SOT: Problems with PowerPro macros (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, > Hmmm. You're into PowerPro, aren't you? ;) Not really. When I get a new program I usually try to see what it can do and what options it has but PowerPro has so many! I learnt enough to write a few keyboard macros and add some buttons and menus to TB and then forgot all about it

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary, I meant to comment on this point before but went to get a cuppa and forgot. A reminder of what Mary Bull typed on: 28 October 2004 at 18:38:35 GMT +0200 MB> Do, but from all the information we've gathered so far, I'm beginning MB> to suspect some effect of ISP's on the Conne

Re: SOT: Problems with PowerPro macros

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Thomas, > PowerPro » Configuration » [Tab Setup] » Advanced setup... » [Tab Other] > » [ ] Use fast send keys I have that option selected. Probably it was set by default but I don't remember. Anyway, my last tweak of PWP was as described in my message to Allie

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Mary, A reminder of what Mary Bull typed on: 28 October 2004 at 18:38:35 GMT +0200 MB> Tony, do you think this behavior could be ISP related? I had a lot of MB> trouble with my ISP on Tuesday. Don't really know Mary, I collect mail from two providers, NTL who I get Broad Band access

Running multiple instances of TB (was 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread MikeD (3)
Hello hggdh, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 1:29:38 PM, you wrote: h> My own twopence: Yes, moving on to MSIs hase made testing betas much h> more difficult. And, yes, RL should help on this. And, YES, MaXxX is h> within reason with his request. h> And, now that I understand MaXxX's problem better,

Re: Threading and Sorting Problem

2004-10-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Stuart! On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 1:43 PM, you wrote: SC> I normally read my tbbeta using Thread by Reference and sort by SC> Created in Reverse order. I just noticed that my sorting seemed a SC> bit odd so I just checked. Even though the little arrow in the SC> header bar was

Re: Ctrl-/ is not working

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 09:58 AM, Peter Gannushkin wrote: > Apparently Stefan as promised changed the Ctrl-[, Ctrl-] and Ctrl-\ > behaviors, but at the same time Ctrl-/ was just dropped out. It does > nothing now. Hope it will be restored soon. I use CTRL-] routinely to move from new me

Threading and Sorting Problem

2004-10-28 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello tbbeta, I normally read my tbbeta using Thread by Reference and sort by Created in Reverse order. I just noticed that my sorting seemed a bit odd so I just checked. Even though the little arrow in the header bar was pointing up in the Created column when I checked in Manage Viewmod

Re: SOT: Problems with PowerPro macros

2004-10-28 Thread Thomas Woelk
* MAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you use keyboard stroke macros the problems may come from different > processor speeds. [...]In same cases I even had to include a /wait/ > command [...] PowerPro » Configuration » [Tab Setup] » Advanced setup... » [Tab Other] » [ ] Use fast send ke

Re: Feature wish- allow user to permanently permit session with "incomplete" SSL/TLS server certs

2004-10-28 Thread hggdh
Hello Army, Tuesday, October 26, 2004, 21:58:41, you wrote: AR> Hello hggdh, AR> Sunday, October 24, 2004, 5:46:31 PM, you wrote: (HUGE snip) I did not forget you... I just need time to read it all & answer ;-) -- ..hggdh.. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.7.3 on Windows 2000 5.0

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread hggdh
Hello George, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 12:45:28, you wrote: GMM> Thursday, October 28, 2004, 8:42:35 PM, George M. Menegakis wrote: >> beta test must take the decision and the implicit risk. GMM> s/test/tester ahhh, an UNIX user... Good. I was thinking I was alone here :-) s/test/tester/

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread hggdh
Hello Allie, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 12:40:49, you wrote: AM> On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 12:37 PM, Alexander S. AM> Kunz wrote: >> But it does - no one forces you to participate in the beta test >> program, aye? AM> Why not stop this? MaXXX wants to beta test. He just wishes to beta

Re[2]: Question about Virtual Folders

2004-10-28 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Nick, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 9:12:46 AM, you wrote: >>Have you tried compressing the original folders to clear out the >>remains of the original messages? NA> All my Folders are set to compress automatically each time TB closes. Have you tried going through folder maintenance. Maybb

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Dierk Haasis
Hello Alexander! On Thursday, October 28, 2004 at 8:08:53 PM you wrote: > It depends on the definition of "beta", and how to use it (as it was > already stated here). Couldn't we just agree on "everybody using beta as he likes"? Corollary: ... at his own risk. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy

Re: MailTicker and filtered messages

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Martin, on Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:55:11 +0200GMT, you wrote: MS> Seems new problem in 3.0.2.2: MS> I have set several filters to move message to folders when they MS> arrive. For these folder I have disabled the MailTicker on new MS> messages - but not for the Inbox. MS> Now: The message arrive

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Allie Martin & everyone else 28-Okt-2004 19:40, you wrote: > He's looking for and asking for an easy way to run another installation > in parallel to the one he relies on for day to day work. It depends on the definition of "beta", and how to use it (as it was already stated here). I remem

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello MaXxX! On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 12:55 PM, you wrote: M> I don't like this scenario one bit. MaXxX, I don't like it either, as your contributions are very, very valuable. With Allie, I say that you make perfect sense. All that needs dead-horsing is the series of attacks suggesting t

Re: Ctrl-/ is not working

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hi Allie, >> Apparently Stefan as promised changed the Ctrl-[, Ctrl-] and Ctrl-\ >> behaviors, but at the same time Ctrl-/ was just dropped out. It does >> nothing now. Hope it will be restored soon. > I use CTRL-] to move from new message to new message and it still > works here. I forgot to ad

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread MaXxX
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 7:45:48 PM, Manuel Breitfeld wrote the following words: > Anyone heard of something called "Dead Horse"...? ;) A very nice thing to pronounce on a thread that has been getting derailed only lately. I'm asking for a way to make betatesting easier, as it was for t

Re: SOT: Problems with PowerPro macros (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 12:40 PM, MAU wrote: > Have you tried tweaking the the "typing" speed? In case you don't know, > which I doubt, look in Configuration/Setup/Advanced Setup/Limits for > "Delay in milliseconds for first and subsequent sent keys from *Keys" Hmmm. You're into PowerPr

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Manuel Breitfeld
Hello MaXxX, on 28.10.2004 at 19:38 you wrote: > On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 7:37:51 PM, the world was changed > forever by what Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >>> Pff. Great suggestion, sir. However it doesn't solve the problem, does >>> it. >> But it does - no one forces you to participate in

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 12:37 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > But it does - no one forces you to participate in the beta test > program, aye? Why not stop this? MaXXX wants to beta test. He just wishes to beta test without having to use his working installation as the beta test bed. He'

Re: Ctrl-/ is not working

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 09:58 AM, Peter Gannushkin wrote: > Apparently Stefan as promised changed the Ctrl-[, Ctrl-] and Ctrl-\ > behaviors, but at the same time Ctrl-/ was just dropped out. It does > nothing now. Hope it will be restored soon. I use CTRL-] to move from new message to n

Re: SOT: Problems with PowerPro macros (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, > The slower machine seems to be executing too quickly, Have you tried tweaking the the "typing" speed? In case you don't know, which I doubt, look in Configuration/Setup/Advanced Setup/Limits for "Delay in milliseconds for first and subsequent sent keys from *Keys" -- Best regards

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread MaXxX
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 7:37:51 PM, the world was changed forever by what Alexander S. Kunz wrote: >> Pff. Great suggestion, sir. However it doesn't solve the problem, does >> it. > But it does - no one forces you to participate in the beta test program, > aye? Hey, please. Are we talk

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello MaXxX & everyone else 28-Okt-2004 19:33, you wrote: >> Then, don't volunteer to beta test. Period. :) > Pff. Great suggestion, sir. However it doesn't solve the problem, does > it. But it does - no one forces you to participate in the beta test program, aye? -- Best regards, Alexander

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread MaXxX
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 5:38:53 PM, the world was changed forever by what MAU wrote: >> me to restore from a backup. And backups don't solve ALL problems! >> What if I receive a very important message when running a badly broken >> beta? I don't have a backup of THAT message, right? And

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 12:03 PM, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: > I just turned on ClearType (could've done that earlier, yes...), and > yes, I can confirm the bug. Checked further - it was already there > in v3.01.33 Confirmed here as well. -- -=[ Allie ]=- ... Alzheimers advantage: New f

Re[2]: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Alexey N. Vinogradov
Hello, Peter. You wrote 29.10.2004 @ 1:53 PG> It is obviously ClearType related. TB! redraws the status bar somehow PG> weird which makes the ClearType adjust more and more of a shadow. It is an issue of used output method of GDI context device. There are two methods exists: Opaque, when the ba

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Gannushkin & everyone else 28-Okt-2004 18:53, you wrote: > It is obviously ClearType related. TB! redraws the status bar somehow > weird which makes the ClearType adjust more and more of a shadow. I just turned on ClearType (could've done that earlier, yes...), and yes, I can confirm

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hi Alexander, >>> Have you tried disabling ClearType? >> I did not, but as it happens only with TB! and only with this particular >> parts of the status messages, I would consider that it is TB's problem. > Yes, but maybe its ClearType related nevertheless... It is obviously ClearType related.

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Mary Bull
Hello Tony! On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 6:30 AM, you wrote: AM>> I agree with that experiment. TB> Well so far everything is fine, but it's only been running an hour TB> or so. I've opened and closed it quite a few times, before and TB> after sending and receiving with no trouble. Since I be

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Gannushkin & everyone else 28-Okt-2004 18:27, you wrote: >> Have you tried disabling ClearType? > I did not, but as it happens only with TB! and only with this particular > parts of the status messages, I would consider that it is TB's problem. Yes, but maybe its ClearType related n

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hi Alexander, >> Look at those screenshots. > Have you tried disabling ClearType? I did not, but as it happens only with TB! and only with this particular parts of the status messages, I would consider that it is TB's problem. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Peter Gannushkin & everyone else 28-Okt-2004 17:22, you wrote: > Look at those screenshots. When the email is created on the computer with > the LCD monitor TB! starts to screw up part of the status bar. If I start > clicking to the, lets say, "English" area of it, then the text on the > bl

Re: IMAP got worse, not better

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
Hi Matt You wrote: > It's kind of funny how this works. New betas will bring a cornucopia > of good and bad news. To some, it solves their issues. To others, > makes them even worse. In relation to IMAP, 3.0.2.1 has been the best > version (for me) yet. > > Allie, how is your IMAP new mai

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Michael Wilson
-Original Message- From: Tim Casten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Oct 27, 2004 7:16 PM To: tbbeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 3022 is awfull Hello tbbeta, This is the worst I have seen. I have spent the past 5 hours restoring going back in builds etc etc. I completely unistalled the

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello MaXxX, > Well, you may be happy with completely separate "testing" and > "working" time slices. I am not. I need to have a reliable e-mail > client running 24/7. I'm not willing to shut it down just to test a > new version that could well blow my message base to pieces and force > me to res

Re: Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Fjelsten
Peter, On 28-10-2004 17:22, you [PG] wrote in : PG> Look at those screenshots. When the email is created on the computer PG> with the LCD monitor TB! starts to screw up part of the status bar. I also get this sometimes in the Log panel - and I am on a 22'' CRT running 2048*

Re: SOT: Problems with PowerPro macros (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread Allie Martin
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 09:15 AM, MAU wrote: > If you use keyboard stroke macros the problems may come from > different processor speeds. Last August I upgraded to a much faster > PC and found that some of my macros would not always (or never) > work. I traced this to the fact that they

Re: IMAP got worse, not better

2004-10-28 Thread Matt Thoene
On Thursday, October 28, 2004 @ 3:11:13 AM [-0700], Allie Martin wrote: > This beta works very well for me here. v3.0.2.1 was not good. I would > get a lot of AV's, at times cascading into oblivion and forcing a kill > from the taskmanager. > I haven't seen an AV yet which is an improvement. I u

Weird LCD monitor bug

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hi All, Look at those screenshots. When the email is created on the computer with the LCD monitor TB! starts to screw up part of the status bar. If I start clicking to the, lets say, "English" area of it, then the text on the block type, cursor mode, account name and the character set will be gett

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread Tony Boom
Hello Allie, A reminder of what Allie Martin typed on: 28 October 2004 at 13:14:10 GMT +0200 AM> I agree with that experiment. Well so far everything is fine, but it's only been running an hour or so. I've opened and closed it quite a few times, before and after sending and receiving with

Ctrl-/ is not working

2004-10-28 Thread Peter Gannushkin
Hi All, Apparently Stefan as promised changed the Ctrl-[, Ctrl-] and Ctrl-\ behaviors, but at the same time Ctrl-/ was just dropped out. It does nothing now. Hope it will be restored soon. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/

Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available

2004-10-28 Thread drifthat
Hello 9Val, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 12:44:59 AM, you wrote: 9> I've returned :) 9> The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available from 9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ 9> Here is a short list of changes: The DBCS support of this build is completely awful. It's bad news for Asian users. -- Best

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread MaXxX
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 3:54:10 PM, MAU sculpted a piece of raw silicon into the thoughts below: > Same here except for a slight difference. I usually keep several > versions of TB executable in the same installation directory (sharing it > as well as message base, etc.) with slightly di

Re: Life with Betas (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello hggdh, > USE AT YOUR OWNRISK > ## > > This is part of the game. The function of a Beta is to be used, AS IF > IT WERE THE REAL THING, by a sample population. Agree 100%!!! Nobody is forced to use a Be

Re: Life with Betas (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello MaXxX, > Sure, sure. As long as I can _ALSO_ be using a real version. The Bat > is largely inconsistent in this manner - the executables can be run > with specific /REG parameters, but the MSI installer installs where it > does usually, without the option to install as a separate setup. See

Re: Life with Betas (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread MaXxX
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 4:21:20 PM, Hggdh jumped on the stage, took a mike and sang: > Please allow me to offer my version (it is, of course, still beta): > ## > BETA VERSIONS *ARE* DANGEROUS. THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES, I

Re: Cannot close The Bat!

2004-10-28 Thread Cristina Ramos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Mike, On 27 October 2004 at 18:11:43GMT -0400 (which was 23:11 where I live) Mike Pesce wrote and made these points on the subject of "Cannot close The Bat!": MP> No problems exiting so far here, running XP Pro. Mine doesn't close. It

Re: Bug 3.0.2.2 (Rush): Virtual folders not updating

2004-10-28 Thread Thorvald Neumann
Hæ! Thursday, October 28, 2004, 13:55, Peter Fjelsten wrote: > In this and in at least one previous version, TB! does not update > read/unread status for VFs. They have been set as Auto Update - but > they still show as bolded after the messages they contain have been > read in their original/

Life with Betas (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread hggdh
Hello MaXxX, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 04:39:08, you wrote: M> That is the risk of Betas that insist on acting like Releases. Sorry, MaXxX, but I fail to see the reason of a Beta that does not function like the release product. M> Let me say it once more, for good measure, so that anybody c

Re: Question about Virtual Folders

2004-10-28 Thread Marcus Ohlström
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, 15:05, Nick Andriash wrote: > Whoops! Spoke too soon. Started TB up this morning, and there they > were again: Old messages that had been deleted long ago, still there > in the VF's. A refresh seems to take care of the problem for the > moment, but alas those pesky

SOT: Problems with PowerPro macros (was: Re: 3022 is awfull)

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, In with Subject "Re: 3022 is awfull" Allie Marting wrote: > But then again, the problems are reversed with PowerPro. I have macros > that work well on my machine at home and at work, the very same macros > are very problematic. Same OS and same PowerPro versio

Re: Question about Virtual Folders

2004-10-28 Thread Nick Andriash
On 28-Oct-2004 06:25:41, Stuart wrote: >Have you tried compressing the original folders to clear out the >remains of the original messages? All my Folders are set to compress automatically each time TB closes. ~Nick Andriash~ Creston, B.C. Canada _

Re: Question about Virtual Folders

2004-10-28 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Nick, Thursday, October 28, 2004, 3:05:01 PM, you wrote: > Whoops! Spoke too soon. Started TB up this morning, and there they > were again: Old messages that had been deleted long ago, still there > in the VF's. A refresh seems to take care of the problem for the > moment, but alas those pe

Re: 3022 is awfull

2004-10-28 Thread MAU
Hello Allie, > I've never done a complete uninstall of TB! since using it in 1999. I've > usually just switched executables. If I have a problem with the new one, > I replace it with the one I was using before. The beta download consists > of just the program executable. I rename the one I was usi

Re: Bug 3.0.2.2 (Rush): Virtual folders not updating

2004-10-28 Thread Marck D Pearlstone
Dear Nick, @28-Oct-2004, 06:20 -0700 (28-Oct 14:20 UK time) Nick Andriash [NA] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >>In this and in at least one previous version, TB! does not update >>read/unread status for VFs. NA> Yes, I can confirm this behaviour, and wonder if we shouldn't submit a bug NA> repor

Re: Question about Virtual Folders

2004-10-28 Thread Stuart Cuddy
Hello Nick, Wednesday, October 27, 2004, 8:51:07 PM, you wrote: NA> I have two VF's that contain 'important' and 'flagged' messages, but the NA> problem is the messages in the virtual folders remain long after the NA> originals have been deleted. What do I have to do to get rid of the residue NA>

Re: Bug 3.0.2.2 (Rush): Virtual folders not updating

2004-10-28 Thread Nick Andriash
On 28-Oct-2004 04:55:22, Peter wrote: >In this and in at least one previous version, TB! does not update >read/unread status for VFs. Yes, I can confirm this behaviour, and wonder if we shouldn't submit a bug report along with it. This behaviour, together with the hand during shutdown, is a show-

Re: Windows editor: Quote problem

2004-10-28 Thread Edvinas Matiušaitis
Hello Allie, On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 13:32, you wrote: >> Confirmed here. AM> Still not convinced that MicroEd is the way to go? :) I am convinced and I'm using it! I just tested Windows Editor behaviour to confirm what Martin observed. However I have one bad feeling. I remember Maks

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