On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, at 17:46:43 [GMT +0300] (which was 16:46 where I
live) 9val wrote:
The Bat! 3.62.03 is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
...snip
As you can see I am still using this version but...
Waiting for the Friday editon ;-)
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Henk M. de Bruijn
Hæ!
Got a cascading AV when adding a field to a filter and filling this
with information (e.g. header and copy'n'paste an emailaddress into
it). After hitting OK, the cascading AV appeares and TB! shuts
itself down after a while. This is reproducable.
TB! restarts ok, the changed filter was
Hello Roelof,
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 at 02:42:18 +0200, (which is
28.10.2005 at 03:42:18 +2000 where I live), you wrote:
Well, the subject says it all.
When I close the sorting office with the 'OK' button, then I'm
getting flooded with cascading AVs and TB closes.
Confirmed!
Access
Hello Roelof,
When I close the sorting office with the 'OK' button, then I'm
getting flooded with cascading AVs and TB closes.
Confirmed.
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.62.03 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2
1) the program behaves differently on different computers.
No? Really? Fancy that. You'd have thought that I'd know that, wouldn't
you what with me writing computer software for a living and
everything.
It should be (it certainly is here) the responsibility of the
programmer to make sure that
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, at 10:21:29 [GMT +0200] (which was 10:21 where I
live) Mau wrote:
When I close the sorting office with the 'OK' button, then I'm
getting flooded with cascading AVs and TB closes.
Confirmed.
Similar here. Changing language same result.
--
Henk M. de Bruijn
Hello Stuart,
It should be (it certainly is here) the responsibility of the
programmer to make sure that their code fulfills at least its basic
requirements in its expected working environment before passing it
on for testing.
Stuart is right... It is not our job to have/test these
From the last para ...
We try to keep public Betas as safe
For some very poor definition of 'safe'.
--
Stuart Hemming
Using The Bat! v3.62.01 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2
Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70,
MyMacros 1.11a.
Found on a CV:
Hi Peter and list,
On Thursday, October 27, 2005 at 13:41:44 GMT +0200 (which was 12:41
where I live) Peter Hampf wrote (at least in parts) and made these
valuable points on the subject of alt+f2 and unable to connect:
FM I have an idea about the crippled IP stack in XP sp2, that refuses to
FM
Hello Stuart,
For some very poor definition of 'safe'.
Yeap! There is a lot of confusion nowadays with a lot of words. Happens
the same with 'cheese'. You can see it's cheese, you can smell it's
cheese, and yet the French call it fromage. ;-)
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial -
Bonjour MAU,
Il est indéniable que MAU a proféré le
vendredi 28 octobre 2005 à 15:55:35 GMT +0200
M Yeap! There is a lot of confusion nowadays with a lot of words. Happens
M the same with 'cheese'. You can see it's cheese, you can smell it's
M cheese, and yet the French call it fromage. ;-)
On 28 Oct 2005, at 16:03, Francis Segond wrote:
PS.: Allright! Stilton IS a fromage...
Call it what you want, Stilton is the best cheese you can get.
And I only live 5 from the village of Stilton itself :)
And a few miles further on is Melton Mowbray.
--
Tony Boom
PGP
It has happened again...
Build 3.62 has been released to the public today, with new features and new
bugs. I can't believe it. No announcement in this group, nothing.
My issue of Tb corrupting attachments (introduced during the current beta
cycle) is still open. I have asked for comments, but
On 10/28/05, Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has happened again...Build 3.62 has been released to the public today, with new features and newbugs. I can't believe it. No announcement in this group, nothing.Rather unbelievable . . . but it is Friday and they must have wanted to
Hello Robert van der Hulst everyone else,
on 28-Okt-2005 at 19:09 you (Robert van der Hulst) wrote:
I really can't believe you released this.
Lets go on strike. Don't post anything for one week on any of the TB lists.
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Bonjour Alexander,
ASK Lets go on strike. Don't post anything for one week on any of the TB
lists.
Quite agree! TB-customers of all countries, unite!
--
FRANCIS J. SEGOND
Webpage: http://faustroll.net, http://butsu.org
PGP-Key:
Hello.
Here's what Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on
Friday, October 28, 2005 at 10:36:42 AM:
After all, there weren't many problems with 3.6201 beta. No one saw
a 3.6202 beta. Just about everyone had problems with AV and exiting
errors with the 3.6203 beta. And then no one asked us to
Hi All,
The Bat! 3.62.05 is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi
The only change from 3.62.03 is fix of the cascading AV problem.
--
I'm using the current final release but I am unable to import any PGP
keys. Whether I try to import from a text file or from the 'Import
OpenPGP Public Key' button, the key never appears in my Key Manager.
Has anyone else experienced this?
--
:R.
TINA, COME GET SOME HAM.
Hello Richard,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 8:36:42 PM, you wrote:
After all, there weren't many problems with 3.6201 beta.
You must be kiddin', right?
--
Best regards,
Vilius
Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
Hello Francis Segond,
28-Okt-2005 19:41, you wrote:
ASK Lets go on strike. Don't post anything for one week on any of the TB
ASK lists.
Quite agree! TB-customers of all countries, unite!
Oh, I'll do this, no kidding!
:)
--
Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
Hello Alexander,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 8:37:38 PM, you wrote:
Hello Robert van der Hulst everyone else,
on 28-Okt-2005 at 19:09 you (Robert van der Hulst) wrote:
I really can't believe you released this.
Lets go on strike. Don't post anything for one week on any of the TB lists.
A
Hi all!
It has happened again...
Build 3.62 has been released to the public today, with new features and
new bugs. I can't believe it. No announcement in this group, nothing.
Always the same. I cannot believe this, too! :-(
They deal with us like you deal with cattle. Thank you Ritlabs. I
Robert van der Hulst wrote:
I am seriously considering moving to a new email client.
I've migrated to Thunderbird for some time now. Even the so-called
unstable nightly builds are far more stable than The Bat has ever
been. In some cases, The Bat is a bit faster, in other cases
Thunderbird is.
On 28 Oct 2005, at 18:37, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Lets go on strike. Don't post anything for one week on any of the
TB lists.
Do you really think they give a damn?. As long as Joe Public keep
paying them money for crap do you really think they give a damn about
any of us?
--
Tony
On 28 Oct 2005, at 16:52, 9Val wrote:
The only change from 3.62.03 is fix of the cascading AV problem.
You haven't fixed the other 26 pages of bugs then?
--
Tony Boom
PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.asc
Current beta is 3.62.03
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On 28 Oct 2005, at 18:53, Alexander S. Kunz wrote:
Oh, I'll do this, no kidding!
They've already had your money so it's pretty damn certain and
blatantly obvious they don't give a sh*t what you or any of the rest
of us do!
They'll soon get
On 28 Oct 2005, at 19:00, Vilius Šumskas wrote:
A week may sound like a vacation for RIT guys. Let's aim for three
months :).
Two possible scenarios.
One... You all stay on the list, post as normal and just as always
you'll be totally ignored by any RL employee.
Two... You all stop
On 28 Oct 2005, at 19:01, Martin Sebald wrote:
A very p*ssed
That means your drunk. You need to put an off after it... Pis*ed
off :)
--
Tony Boom
PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.asc
Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA'
Hi Tony!
A very p*ssed
That means your drunk. You need to put an off after it... Pis*ed
off :)
Drunk is also ok because I must be drunk spending time here with beta
testing...
Regards,
Martin
--
The Bat! v3.62.05 powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1
ConCarne cooks best
Hello Vilius,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 1:52:04 PM, you wrote:
After all, there weren't many problems with 3.6201 beta.
VŠ You must be kiddin', right?
Compared to 3.6203?
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Best regards,
Richard Newman
---
Using The Bat!
Hello Tony,
TB Do you really think they give a damn?. As long as Joe Public keep
TB paying them money for crap do you really think they give a damn
TB about any of us?
What makes you think that TB even has a significant amount people
buying the product? I so rarely even see it mentioned anywhere.
Bonjour Martin,
MS They deal with us like you deal with cattle. Thank you Ritlabs. I can
MS remember several releases where I as a betatester was very surprised when I
MS saw the final on the website a couple of days after the release. This is no
MS good behaviour! The people here are volunteers
Bonjour Tony,
A very p*ssed
TB That means your drunk. You need to put an off after it... Pis*ed
TB off :)
True! I'm titally possed off too!
--
FRANCIS J. SEGOND
Webpage: http://faustroll.net, http://butsu.org
PGP-Key: http://www.segond.de/pubkey/segond.asc
Dimitry Andric wrote:
I've migrated to Thunderbird for some time now. Even the so-called
unstable nightly builds are far more stable than The Bat has ever
been. In some cases, The Bat is a bit faster, in other cases
Thunderbird is.
I find the same here. I always am on the latest nightly,
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On 28 Oct 2005, at 19:51, Francis Segond wrote:
(I know that they don't care for one licence,
but I might not be alone) ;-)
They don't care for any license once they've had your money.
- --
Tony Boom
PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.asc
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On 28 Oct 2005, at 19:59, Mike Rourke wrote:
Not anymore, I'm done...
Best place is TBOT... Talk about anything you want as long as it's
not The Bat! That way you don't get too depressed.
- --
Tony Boom
PGP
Bonjour Tony,
TB Best place is TBOT... Talk about anything you want as long as it's
TB not The Bat! That way you don't get too depressed.
Where can I sign in? :-)
--
FRANCIS J. SEGOND
Webpage: http://faustroll.net, http://butsu.org
PGP-Key:
A Bat-fellow, Robert van der Hulst,
wrote on Friday, 28th October 2005 at 19:09:57 (GMT +0200),
which was ditto in Bratislava --
I have asked for comments, but everybody at RitLabs plays deaf.
I really can't believe you released this.
You must be new here.
--
Yours,
Alex. of Slovakia
Hello Francis!
On Friday, October 28, 2005, 2:09 PM, you wrote:
Where can I sign in? :-)
Try an e-mail to this address:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Or click on the tbudl info link at the bottom of every post to a TB!
list, scroll way down, and click on the button for subscribing to
TBOT.
--
Best
Bonjour Mary,
MB Try
MB Or click
Done!
Thank you
--
FRANCIS J. SEGOND
Webpage: http://faustroll.net, http://butsu.org
PGP-Key: http://www.segond.de/pubkey/segond.asc
Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using
On 28 Oct 2005, at 20:09, Francis Segond wrote:
Where can I sign in? :-)
Yahoo! Groups Links
* To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tbot/
* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject
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On 28 Oct 2005, at 20:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You must be new here.
Best answer I've seen yet :)
- --
Tony Boom
PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.asc
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On 28 Oct 2005, at 20:18, Mary Bull wrote:
Try an e-mail to this address:
You beat me to it.
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Tony Boom
PGP http://www.theboomclan.com/tbc.asc
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Hello Richard,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 9:46:22 PM, you wrote:
Hello Vilius,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 1:52:04 PM, you wrote:
After all, there weren't many problems with 3.6201 beta.
VŠ You must be kiddin', right?
Compared to 3.6203?
Compared to the 3.62.03 it has only one bug less.
Hello Martin,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 9:46:07 PM, you wrote:
Hi Tony!
A very p*ssed
That means your drunk. You need to put an off after it... Pis*ed
off :)
Drunk is also ok because I must be drunk spending time here with beta
testing...
LOL :)
--
Best regards,
Vilius
Hello 9Val,
The Bat! 3.62.05 is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi
The only change from 3.62.03 is fix of the cascading AV problem.
Quite stable so far. No AVs or external exceptions.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial -
Hello Robert,
I can't believe it. No announcement in this group, nothing.
See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from 9Val at 17:52:30
(where I live). 1 hour, 17 minutes and 27 seconds before your message at
19:09:57 (also where I live)
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The
Hello Bill,
Watch Replies In is also working!
Right! And it worked in 3.62.03 and it does in 3.62.05 just released.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.62.05 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2
On Friday, October 28, 2005, 22:35:56, MAU wrote:
See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from 9Val at 17:52:30
(where I live). 1 hour, 17 minutes and 27 seconds before your message at
19:09:57 (also where I live)
According to headers, Robert's message was sent 40 minutes before 9Val's.
--
Jernej
Hello MAU,
The Bat! 3.62.05 is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi
The only change from 3.62.03 is fix of the cascading AV problem.
Quite stable so far. No AVs or external exceptions.
Yes, there are :(((
1. Open a mail in full
Good evening, ladies and gentlemens
It seems that it starts again and in the same maner. Nothing new.
So... Lets check the facts. Please, answer honestly to the following
questions:
1. Is it unstable?
2. Do you still remember about stable version policy?
3. Do you still
Hello Vili,
Quite stable so far. No AVs or external exceptions.
Yes, there are :(((
1. Open a mail in full window
Why should I if I never do that?
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
I can't. I only have English interface, I never install int pack.
3. Try to
Hello Ian,
Come now. I have tried downloading this twice and installing it, but
both times it goes most of the way through and then tells me there is
a problem with Data1.cab.
It installed flawlessly here.
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.62.05 on
Hello MAU,
Quite stable so far. No AVs or external exceptions.
Yes, there are :(((
1. Open a mail in full window
Why should I if I never do that?
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
I can't. I only have English interface, I never install int pack.
3. Try to
Hi Vili,
Friday, October 28, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
Yes, there are :(((
1. Open a mail in full window
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
3. Try to close the mail...
Support https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5248
I get caught in an
Hello Vili,
I just wanted a confirmation for a bug I discovered :((( That is all.
But I can't because I can't change language :)))
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.62.05 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2
Hello 9Val,
Saturday, October 29, 2005, 12:12:15 AM, you wrote (possibly edited):
Are here honest people, who will note, that this is just bug-fix
changelog? And clever enough to understand, that beta-testers see
dynamics and therefore forget the difference between discrete
Hello 9Val,
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
9 1. Is it unstable?
Not so far, seems to work fine for my use.
9 Are here honest people, who will note, that this is just bug-fix
9 changelog? And clever enough to understand, that beta-testers see
9 dynamics and
Hello Charlene,
Yes, there are :(((
1. Open a mail in full window
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
3. Try to close the mail...
...
and many more...
Vili, I added a suport note. A good catch :)
It was not mine, I just checked the BT list and saw it. The
Hello MAU,
I just wanted a confirmation for a bug I discovered :((( That is
all.
But I can't because I can't change language :)))
That is ok.
--
Vili
Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
On Friday, October 28, 2005, at 17:09:48 [UTC-0400] (Friday, October 28,
2005 23:09 my local time) Vili wrote:
The only change from 3.62.03 is fix of the cascading AV problem.
Quite stable so far. No AVs or external exceptions.
Yes, there are :(((
1. Open a mail in full window
Hello 9Val everyone else,
on 28-Okt-2005 at 23:12 you (9Val) wrote:
3. Do you still remember, that since last official release have been
fixed
[...]
You have to admit that a large number of these bugfixes is actually
getting things back to work how they used to because you're working on
Hello Ian A. White everyone else,
on 28-Okt-2005 at 23:07 you (Ian A. White) wrote:
Come now. I have tried downloading this twice and installing it, but
both times it goes most of the way through and then tells me there is
a problem with Data1.cab. It then tells me it is rolling back only I
Hi Vili,
Friday, October 28, 2005
you let us know -at least in parts- :
and many more...
Vili, I added a suport note. A good catch :)
It was not mine, I just checked the BT list and saw it. The
description was very short, I extended it and promoted it...
Okay. A bug still is a bug :) No
Hello Greg,
So far so good. I should add that I have changed my mode of upgrading
to releases. I now complete erase TB program directory, and delete
the 'RIT' key in the registry. In essence a clean install except for
the mail directory. The accounts are easily added because everything
is
Hello 9Val,
As Tony is on strike :), we can have an uninterrupted, honest talk
now... :))
Are here honest people, who will note, that this is just bug-fix
changelog? And clever enough to understand, that beta-testers see
dynamics and therefore forget the difference between
Hello Alexander,
I repeat my proposal that there should be a more intensive dialogue between
Ritlabs and the users, at least the beta testers.
Well said. We dont need email in every minute. RL hurts itself with
these bugs and this kind of handle of our feedback :(( Or lack of
feedback,
Hello Vili everyone else,
on 28-Okt-2005 at 23:09 you (Vili) wrote:
1. Open a mail in full window
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
3. Try to close the mail...
You do this regularly? Wow. :)
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Best regards,
Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981)
People
Hello 9Val,
Quite simply the rancor comes from moving from an unstable beta
(3.62.03) to a release without a stable beta in between. And, of
course, there are all those things that individual people would like
fixed because they are important to them but may not be important to
the general user
Hello Vili,
All of them is very obvious bugs :((
But, do you really consider any of them as showstoppers?
--
Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain)
Using The Bat! v3.62.05 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2
Current beta
Hello Zygmunt,
Yes, there are :(((
1. Open a mail in full window
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
3. Try to close the mail...
Support https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5248
Confirmed. I added comment to this report.
Read it. Good catch for the exit AV!
Hello Alexander,
1. Open a mail in full window
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
3. Try to close the mail...
You do this regularly? Wow. :)
:)) I explained it to Charlene. But Zygmunt showed, that TB crashes if
you change language and just quit... :(
--
Vili
Hello 9Val,
3. Do you still remember, that since last official release have been
fixed : (auto-generated list)
my restore is aborted further with an error message. The attach folder
and the account settings were not generated. There is no way to restore
the backup completely.
BT:
Hi list
I got an error after deleting a message. When clicking the OK of the
error message a lot of AV error messages - had to kill TB with task
manager.
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Best regards,
Martin
TheBat! 3.62.05 Pro on Windows 98 4 10 A
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Description: PNG image
Hello Vili,
1. Open a mail in full window
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
3. Try to close the mail...
You do this regularly? Wow. :)
:)) I explained it to Charlene. But Zygmunt showed, that TB crashes if
you change language and just quit... :(
Come on Vili, let's be a
Hello Ian,
M It installed flawlessly here.
I decided to try one more time, this time using NetTransport, and when
it finished, The Bat! installed OK.
So it looks like on previous downloads the msi file was corrupted
somehow during download, correct?
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Best regards,
Miguel A. Urech (El
Hello MAU,
All of them is very obvious bugs :((
But, do you really consider any of them as showstoppers?
Let's put it this way: if I am proud of the software I am writing,
yes, they are.
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Vili
Current beta is 3.62.03 | 'Using
Hello Ian,
M So it looks like on previous downloads the msi file was corrupted
M somehow during download, correct?
Looks that way. What I find odd is that it happened twice, with the
install getting to the same point.
Yes, that's certainly odd. What kind of connection you have?
--
Best
Hello Vili,
All of them is very obvious bugs :((
But, do you really consider any of them as showstoppers?
Let's put it this way: if I am proud of the software I am writing,
yes, they are.
,- [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showstopper ]
| In software development, a showstopper is a
Hello TBBETA,
hey girls guys, how are you? Ya, I'm still alive.
Till some time ago (which version? can't remember) I had no problems
using TB to send email through a gmail account.
But tonight constantly get error pop-ups when using TB to send email
through gmail (see below).
When sending
Hello MAU,
All of them is very obvious bugs :((
But, do you really consider any of them as showstoppers?
Let's put it this way: if I am proud of the software I am writing,
yes, they are.
,- [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showstopper ]
| In software development, a showstopper is a
Hello Peter,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 7:31:50 PM, you wrote:
Hello TBBETA,
hey girls guys, how are you? Ya, I'm still alive.
Till some time ago (which version? can't remember) I had no problems
using TB to send email through a gmail account.
But tonight constantly get error pop-ups
Hello MAU,
1. Open a mail in full window
2. Change the interface language on the main screen
3. Try to close the mail...
You do this regularly? Wow. :)
:)) I explained it to Charlene. But Zygmunt showed, that TB crashes if
you change language and just quit... :(
Come on Vili, let's be a
On 28-10-2005 8:09 Henk M. de Bruijn wrote:
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, at 17:46:43 [GMT +0300] (which was 16:46 where I
live) 9val wrote:
The Bat! 3.62.03 is now available from:
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/
...snip
As you can see I am still using this version but...
Waiting for the
Hello Peter,
Friday, October 28, 2005, 6:31:50 PM, you wrote:
Is it just me experiencing this, or are there more victims ?
I'm sending this through Gmail.
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__ Geocaching:
On Friday, October 28, 2005, 4:20:35 PM, MAU wrote:
It installed flawlessly here.
Here too, and has been running fine all afternoon and evening.
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928 S Broadway
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316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568
dcorrin at fastmail.fm
Using The Bat! 3.62.05 on Windows XP
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