Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger

2012-04-22 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Miguel, Sunday, April 22, 2012, 7:06:37 PM, among other things, you wrote: M> I have been using the 'Smart space' these past few days, which I had M> never used before, and I must say that it seems to work quite well. I M> don't have to change the focus to the message pane as I thought I w

Printing Folder Structure to File/Paper

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear all, Back in the times of w2000 I had an App that allowed me to print on paper or into a file a selected folder structure. Anyone knows of such App under w7? Thanks it would help. -- best regards | Using The Bat! 5.0.36.5 (BETA) Eddie | on Windows 7 6.

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Vilius, --->>> Vilius Šumskas / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 10:34 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >>> No, you don't. IMAP can be fully used offline. >> I forgot to tell you one experience I have made with this/his 3,5 >> GB eMail structure. I had to chang

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Vilius Šumskas
He does. POP you can work with it even without Internet. With IMAP you must have a connection. No, you don't. IMAP can be fully used offline. I forgot to tell you one experience I have made with this/his 3,5 GB eMail structure. I had to change the Top Level Folder Name. After doing so,

Re:Threaded view

2012-04-22 Thread Ron Secord
On Sunday, April 22, 2012 Raymund Tump, [RT] wrote: > On the other hand the fact that the message flag symbol is all over > the place and not in one column is a no go for me anyway so I put the > subject column first and that solve this problem. I've been using TB since somewhere around V1.3. I'

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Simon, --->>> Simon Martin / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 10:01 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local > You don't need to have an IMAP connection if you select download > mail and attachments. Your cache size grows tremendously, but it > works very well. I just

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Vilius, --->>> Vilius Šumskas / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 09:59 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >> He does. POP you can work with it even without Internet. With IMAP >> you must have a connection. > No, you don't. IMAP can be fully used offline. I for

Re[2]: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Simon Martin
Hi Eddie, He does. POP you can work with it even without Internet. With IMAP you must have a connection. You don't need to have an IMAP connection if you select download mail and attachments. Your cache size grows tremendously, but it works very well. -- __ _ Debian GNU User Simon

RE: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Vilius Šumskas
> >> Not me. It's my clients computer and he wants it this way. Same as we > >> discussed with Tony, I have to create alternatives when clients have a > >> not so optimal idea and insist on it. > > > As far as I understand your client just wants a whole copy of email > > base cached locally. This

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Raymund, --->>> Raymund Tump / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 08:57 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >> So more homework? > Well, some one has to do it and I prefer to drink beer tonight ;-) Cheer :) I must be honest that I thought to get a hand from so

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Vilius, --->>> Vilius Šumskas / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 09:19 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >> Not me. It's my clients computer and he wants it this way. Same as we >> discussed with Tony, I have to create alternatives when clients have a >> not so

RE: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Vilius Šumskas
> >> See also my post > > > Why do you need a folder structure? > > Not me. It's my clients computer and he wants it this way. Same as we > discussed with Tony, I have to create alternatives when clients have a > not so optimal idea and insist on it. As far as I understand your client just wan

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Vilius, --->>> Vilius Šumskas / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 07:28 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >> See also my post > Why do you need a folder structure? Not me. It's my clients computer and he wants it this way. Same as we discussed with Tony, I hav

Re: Threaded view

2012-04-22 Thread Peter Fjelsten
MAU, On 22-04-2012 16:09, you wrote in : > What is your setting in Options/Preferences/Message List for "Limit > expansion of first column to"? For me this setting does not work at all. I do not want it to expand ("1") but it does anyway. -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 5.1.0.4 Pro MyG

Re:Threaded view

2012-04-22 Thread Ron Secord
On Sunday, April 22, 2012 Mau, [M] wrote: > What is your setting in Options/Preferences/Message List for "Limit > expansion of first column to"? It was unchecked. I checked the box and kicked the number up from 10 to 25. No joy. It still disappears after six levels. -- Regards, Ron Secord

Re: [5.1] Read Filters don't trigger

2012-04-22 Thread MAU
Hello Roger, >>> In version 5 the read filters are only triggered by the smart 'Space >>> bar' action to move to another message. Marking as 'Read' by any other >>> action has no effect. I have protested to Stefan Tanurkov about this >>> change, but to no avail. > M>> Oh no! :-( > M>> After

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Vilius Šumskas
-- Using aid4mails I uploaded all the eMails successfully on an IMAP account. I see the folders properly and ALL eMails. Now I want this exactly on the local HD. TB!'s IMAP local cache IS permanent. Just set it to always download all emails. Yes Vilius, but they are not in a clear Fo

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Raymund, --->>> Raymund Tump / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 06:15 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local > You don't get a choice with IMAP size. Ok > You need to set the location for the backup in View|Options. Set! Are you activating Spam Handler? > Then select Account

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Vilius, --->>> Vilius Šumskas / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 06:34 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >> -- Using aid4mails I uploaded all the eMails successfully on an IMAP >>account. I see the folders properly and ALL eMails. Now I want this >>exact

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Raymund, --->>> Raymund Tump / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 06:22 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local How about that? >>> I wouldn't do that :-) >> Why? > Too much work :-) Thanks for saving my time :) >> DOS times are ages behind me :( > Well, they ar

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Vilius Šumskas
Hi, Eddie <50minco...@gmail.com> rašė: -- Using aid4mails I uploaded all the eMails successfully on an IMAP account. I see the folders properly and ALL eMails. Now I want this exactly on the local HD. TB!'s IMAP local cache IS permanent. Just set it to always download all emails. -

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Alto, --->>> Alto Speckhardt / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 06:03 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local E>> I create a pop Account and add manually all the folders to it. > All 1200 of them? ;-) Yep! But I give you a hint, that I have made a try with aid4mails

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, E> I create a pop Account and add manually all the folders to it. All 1200 of them? ;-) E> I open TB! press Shift-CTRL-Alt+L and all folders will be imported. I don't get that - if you already set up the folders, why do this? E> Then I go from folder to folder and c&p from IMAP Accoun

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Alto, --->>> Alto Speckhardt / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 05:50 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local E>> Looking at your own test it can't be gMail. I suspect a setting or E>> version issue. Which version are you running? Mine is E>> v2011.07.03.03. > Gotcha. The Program

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Alto, --->>> Alto Speckhardt / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 05:48 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local E>> Looking at your own test it can't be gMail. I suspect a setting or E>> version issue. Which version are you running? Mine is E>> v2011.07.03.03. > Well, I've not been

[5.1.0.4] Replied filters work as they should

2012-04-22 Thread MAU
Hello all, Last Monday Apr 16th, in a thread with Subject: '[5.1] Replied filters trigger too early', in I reported and described the problem I had 'discovered' and in a later message, I said I was reverting to version 4.2.44.2. Well, I have actually been swapping from 4.2.44.2 and 5.1.0.4 since

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Raymund, --->>> Raymund Tump / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 05:33 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >> I create a pop Account and add manually all the folders to it. I open >> TB! press Shift-CTRL-Alt+L and all folders will be imported. Then I go >> from fol

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Raymund, --->>> Raymund Tump / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 05:31 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >>> Weird. Which version is that? I did use the Account|Account Backup >>> funtion from the menu and did not get any folders for years. >> The latest - 2011.07.03.03 > Wh

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, E> Looking at your own test it can't be gMail. I suspect a setting or E> version issue. Which version are you running? Mine is v2011.07.03.03. Gotcha. The Program you're running is named "Beyond Inbox", right? "IMAPsize" is a different one. ;-) -- MfG, Altoma

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, E> Looking at your own test it can't be gMail. I suspect a setting or E> version issue. Which version are you running? Mine is v2011.07.03.03. Well, I've not been through all the GMail options. And maybe the "yearing" is started automatically by GMail only as soon as you have message from se

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Raymund, --->>> Raymund Tump / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 05:14 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >>> Even when you have a POP3 setup with subfolders each of these >>> folders will contain there own messages.tbb and messages.tbn file. >> Fair enough. But

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Raymund, --->>> Raymund Tump / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 04:09 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local >> That will require a lot of hand work at the end unless I missed >> something. > Weird. Which version is that? I did use the Account|Account Backup > funtion from the me

Re: Threaded view

2012-04-22 Thread MAU
Hello Ron, > This started happening back around V4. I'm pretty sure that I reported > it back then, but at the time I didn't get any response or nobody else > had this issue. > > Thought I'd try again to see if anyone is experiencing this or may > have a suggestion. TIA! What is your setting

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Alto, --->>> Alto Speckhardt / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 04:40 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local E>> Someone here suggested to create a POP account and then it would E>> read all eMails including folders. Is that so? > No. POP3 doesn't know of folders in

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Raymund, --->>> Raymund Tump / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 04:45 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local > What's wrong with that? You wanted to have a copy of the data on > your hard drive. There it is. > Even when you have a POP3 setup with subfolders each of t

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Alto, --->>> Alto Speckhardt / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 04:35 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local > That's curious - it doesn't do that here. I do not get the "Year > number" subdirectories. Here it is as expected: > x IMAPsize folder > xx account name > xxx folder > x

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, E> Someone here suggested to create a POP account and then it would read E> all eMails including folders. Is that so? No. POP3 doesn't know of folders in the first place. All you can do is create local folders in TheBat, which are local to the machine the have been created on, and manuall

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, E> ORIGINAL FOLDER: E> Inbox E> +- Client 1 E> | +- Name 1 E> IMAPsize is creating the following structure E> IMAPsize FOLDER: E> Inbox E> +- Client 1 E> | +- Name 1 E> | | +- Year number That's curious - it doesn't do that here. I do not get the "Year number" subdirectories.

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Alto, --->>> Alto Speckhardt / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 01:23 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local RT>> If that's really what you want to achieve just create a new RT>> account pointing to the POP3 server and download the mails. > I don't think this will do

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Alto, --->>> Alto Speckhardt / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 01:21 PM [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local RT>> Otherwise keep the IMAP connection and configure that to download RT>> entire messages in Account|Properties|Mail management|IMAP RT>> Fine-Tune. > I can

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Alto, --->>> Alto Speckhardt / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 01:16 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local E>> Ok, I installed IMAPsize - looks good. I have renamed a whole tree E>> with ease. But the refresh is very bad. I required a long time to E>> read the folder structure (

Re:IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Eddie
Dear Tony, --->>> Tony Hoare / Sunday Sun 22. Apr 2012, 12:03 PM IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local > You have a big problem with your client's beliefs. Only time and his > experience will overcome that. It's taken four years to get him this > far. Yep, his is of older a

Threaded view

2012-04-22 Thread Ron Secord
Hello TBBETA, I've been experiencing this issue for some time now, so TBBETA may not be the best place for this. Attached is a screenshot of the issue that I'm experiencing, which is that I view all my folders in threaded view. As the thread gets longer, the "shift" only goes so far and then t

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, E> Alto, I have 1'233 (about) folders (with 13'000 eMail). So I need a E> solution that it handles Folder arrangement too. Well, to download the data you can use IMAPsize all right (see my other message.) But this still doesn't solve the problem of how to get it into TheBat without having

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, RT> If that's really what you want to achieve just create a new account RT> pointing to the POP3 server and download the mails. I don't think this will do the trick, since POP3 can't handle folders. Throwing over 1000 folders together just for the transfer and then sort it out manually again

Re: [second try] IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, RT> Otherwise keep the IMAP connection and configure that to download RT> entire messages in Account|Properties|Mail management|IMAP Fine-Tune. I can only speak for my personal experience, but for me this feature has never worked as expected and certainly doesn't with v5.0.36.2: No messeges

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Alto Speckhardt
Hi, E> Ok, I installed IMAPsize - looks good. I have renamed a whole tree E> with ease. But the refresh is very bad. I required a long time to read E> the folder structure (1228 folders). Well, I have about 130 folders, and it already takes its time - what do you epect for ten times this

Re: IMAP - how to permanently store eMail local

2012-04-22 Thread Tony Hoare
Hello Eddie, You have a big problem with your client's beliefs. Only time and his experience will overcome that. It's taken four years to get him this far. One further question for him is what happens if his laptop is dropped or lost? His POP3 email is lost too. With IMAP all mail is managed on

Re: SOT on Beta List

2012-04-22 Thread MAU
Hello Cees, >> Ha, ha! You pointed me to the perfect excuse, I only have one computer ;-) > > I am so sorry to hear that. No, seriously. I can't do now any actual testing as I did in the past. All I can do is use the software in my daily routine and, if something pops up, report it. > One t

Re: SOT on Beta List

2012-04-22 Thread MAU
Hello Eddie, >> 'Cause my religion doesn't allow me ;-) > > Are you POPlim or POPian? Neither, I am POPist ;) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v5.1.0.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 3 My photos at: http://www.Rancho-K.com My photoblog: http://mau.amin

Re: TB! AutoBackup Issue (Can't turn it off)

2012-04-22 Thread RS (FEDARA)
Hi Raymund, >> Somehow current version of TB! is still doing autobackup everyday >> despite that AutoBackup option is not checked in Preferences of >> currently installed client. > As the Windows Installer does not remove the registry keys in the user > hives the autobackup settings a