Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Paul Van Noord wrote: Also, using an external hard drive is 2-3 times safer regarding lost data during a power failure simply because of performance. and because of the filesystem too. still nobody mentioned that. and because of the compressed attribute if on NTFS: it first writes as-is,

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread Doug Higby
Hello Vili, Monday, May 14, 2007, 4:28:21 PM, you wrote: utility to benchmark the hard drive vs the memory stick. I use it to measure my memory stick's performance, which translates immediately into increased performance in The Bat! I dont understand, how _measuring_ translates

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Doug Higby wrote: Even though my lists settings say to receive a copy of my own messages, they don't appear in the thread. same for me, by the way. -- Signed, Vitalie. Current beta is 3.99.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread Perry Nelson
Hi Vitalie and fellow beta testers, Tuesday, May 15, 2007, 7:39:28 AM, you wrote: Even though my lists settings say to receive a copy of my own messages, they don't appear in the thread. vv same for me, by the way. Both you and Doug are using a Gmail account for your subscription to the list,

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread vitalie vrabie
Perry Nelson wrote: vv same for me, by the way. Both you and Doug are using a Gmail account for your subscription to the list, and that explains the dilemma. That's why I use my Comcast account for this list rather than my customary Gmail account. argh. it's that dupekilling feature of

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread Vili
Both you and Doug are using a Gmail account for your subscription to the list, and that explains the dilemma. That's why I use my Comcast account for this list rather than my customary Gmail account. argh. it's that dupekilling feature of gmail. thanks for pointing out. it was there some time

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread Vili
In my experience, every USB memory stick is different. The one I am using now reads and writes at 16MBits per second, and my previous one was only 8. There is a free utility on the web to test your speed, but it is on my office computer and I forget what it is called. What is the name of

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-15 Thread Roelof Otten
Hallo vitalie, On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:39:28 +0300GMT (15-5-2007, 13:39 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Even though my lists settings say to receive a copy of my own messages, they don't appear in the thread. VV same for me, by the way. That's gmail for you. The reason you don't see them

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-14 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Vili On Sunday, May 13, 2007 you wrote: Hello Rick, I tried a lot of things, the HDD just outperforms a stick, yet. Even when you have to be able to carry the data in your pocket?:)) You must be a journalist to take out 1 sentence and forgot to quote all related stuff to earn

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-14 Thread vitalie vrabie
Rick Grunwald wrote: You must be a journalist to take out 1 sentence and forgot to quote all related stuff to earn some cheap popularity Let me quote those sentences you forgot to mention that I wrote in the same mail: I did not want to trash USB sticks. They good for something. Also,

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-14 Thread Doug Higby
Hello Paul, Saturday, May 12, 2007, 11:15:22 PM, you wrote: I totally agree with you Vili. Also, flash drives perform much faster on Win2K than XP. Often a factor of 2 or 3 to 1. The difference in performance of USB hard drives is much closer between the 2 OSs and I am sure it is related to

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-14 Thread Vili
You must be a journalist to take out 1 sentence and forgot to quote all related stuff to earn some cheap popularity Let me quote those sentences you forgot to mention that I wrote in the same mail: I did not want to trash USB sticks. They good for something. Also, they are more

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-14 Thread Vili
I totally agree with you Vili. Also, flash drives perform much faster on Win2K than XP. Often a factor of 2 or 3 to 1. The difference in performance of USB hard drives is much closer between the 2 OSs and I am sure it is related to the performance of the hard drive as opposed to the

Re[4]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-13 Thread Vili
Hello Paul, V No. I completely understand. And that is my WHOLE point: you have V great experience with Voyager if you use a HDD, and not running from a V USB stick. If you can. A _completely different_ experience. That is V what I tried to say. (Even if you optimize the stick to speed.)

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-13 Thread Rick Grunwald
Hello Vili I tried a lot of things, the HDD just outperforms a stick, yet. Even when you have to be able to carry the data in your pocket?:)) -- Rick The Bat Version 3.99.6 Current beta is 3.99.06 | 'Using TBBETA' information:

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-13 Thread NetVicious
sábado, 12 may 2007 at 18:25, it seems you wrote: typically(!), ANY 'usb-enclosed' hdd outperforms ANY usb flash stick. flash cards inserted in readers give a slightly different mileage, but that's a separate story. There are USB flash sticks with an excelent speed. And they outperforms some

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-13 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/13/2007 7:29 PM Hi Rick, On 5/13/2007 Rick Grunwald wrote: RG Even when you have to be able to carry the data in your pocket?:)) Mine fits there although heavier than I like. As Vili stated there is value in flash drives. However, the discussion was on maintaining data integrity which makes

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-13 Thread Vili
Hello Rick, I tried a lot of things, the HDD just outperforms a stick, yet. Even when you have to be able to carry the data in your pocket?:)) You must be a journalist to take out 1 sentence and forgot to quote all related stuff to earn some cheap popularity ;) Let me quote those sentences

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-12 Thread Vili
I wrote a long answer. But I deleted it. Why? I dont want to argue. I used stick with optimized for performance and use my HDD. Huge difference. I DID try it. You didnt. End of story for me. completely wrong. tried both and both work okay. of course, assuming you don't expect the

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-12 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: I wrote a long answer. But I deleted it. Why? I dont want to argue. I used stick with optimized for performance and use my HDD. Huge difference. I DID try it. You didnt. End of story for me. completely wrong. tried both and both work okay. of course, assuming you don't

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-12 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: No. I completely understand. And that is my WHOLE point: you have great experience with Voyager if you use a HDD, and not running from a USB stick. If you can. A _completely different_ experience. That is what I tried to say. (Even if you optimize the stick to speed.) Are

Re[3]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-12 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/12/2007 7:10 PM Hi Vili, On 5/12/2007 Vili wrote: V No. I completely understand. And that is my WHOLE point: you have V great experience with Voyager if you use a HDD, and not running from a V USB stick. If you can. A _completely different_ experience. That is V what I tried to say.

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-11 Thread Doug Higby
Hello mfas, Thursday, May 10, 2007, 2:53:03 PM, you wrote: Hello tbbeta, Have any of you tried running Voyager within a Private disk file run from a USB drive. http://www.dekart.com/products/encryption/private_disk_mf/ or http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/pd/ For me it has solved

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-11 Thread Vili
Vili wrote: you have the exact same reasons with your 'usb-enclosed' HDD. ...maybe even worse, given that write-back for USB flashdrives isn't quite as optimistic as with HDDs (including those 'usb-enclosed'). :)) I dont know this stuff, all I am seeing is that with a USB stick, it takes

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-10 Thread mfas
Hello tbbeta, Have any of you tried running Voyager within a Private disk file run from a USB drive. http://www.dekart.com/products/encryption/private_disk_mf/ or http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/pd/ For me it has solved the speed and connect/dissconnect issues. -- Best regards, mfas

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-10 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: you have the exact same reasons with your 'usb-enclosed' HDD. ...maybe even worse, given that write-back for USB flashdrives isn't quite as optimistic as with HDDs (including those 'usb-enclosed'). :)) I dont know this stuff, all I am seeing is that with a USB stick, it

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-09 Thread vitalie vrabie
Vili wrote: I dont know... I dont _totally_ agree... Even in WinXP, you can optimize a stick for performance, but if writing is delayed and for some reason you have got a power failure... Or I just dont trust MS to let them manage delayed writing :)) you have the exact same

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-09 Thread Vili
Vili wrote: I dont know... I dont _totally_ agree... Even in WinXP, you can optimize a stick for performance, but if writing is delayed and for some reason you have got a power failure... Or I just dont trust MS to let them manage delayed writing :)) you have the exact same reasons

Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-07 Thread Nick Danger
I've noticed an appreciable slow down when trying to print out an email with this latest release. Time from invoking the print command till the print window appears is 20-25 seconds whereas in previous versions it was 5 or less. Anyone else notice this phenomenon? -- ò.ó Nick Danger [MUA: TB!

Re: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-07 Thread Vili
I've noticed an appreciable slow down when trying to print out an email with this latest release. Time from invoking the print command till the print window appears is 20-25 seconds whereas in previous versions it was 5 or less. Anyone else notice this phenomenon? I dont observe

Re[2]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-07 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/7/2007 2:35 PM Hi Vili, On 5/7/2007 Vili wrote: V (What I observed is, that running Voyager from a USB stick is just not V the way to go...) Unless you use Win2K. 8-]} -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.95.06 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE

Re[3]: Voyager 3.99.4 Slow Printing

2007-05-07 Thread Vili
V (What I observed is, that running Voyager from a USB stick is just not V the way to go...) Unless you use Win2K. 8-]} I dont know... I dont _totally_ agree... Even in WinXP, you can optimize a stick for performance, but if writing is delayed and for some reason you have got a power