On August 9, 2000, at 5:33:34 PM, Nick Danger Wrote:
ND Could someone at least verify this (happens on two totally different
ND computer setups so I don't THINK it's just me) so I can cancel my
ND scheduled lobotomy for next week.
Cancel the lobotomy Nick... It frequently happens to me as well,
On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 21:00:50 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
snip
KP Another approach is to use a DDE-aware editor. (Epsilon is also one
KP of these.) The client program (eg. TB or PMMail) can send a DDE
KP message to an existing instance of such a program to open a file,
KP and register some kind
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:08:54 -0500, Katsmeow wrote:
K I am trying to filter messages that are being or have already been
K sent.
If you wish to filter messages already being sent then you need to use
outgoing filter rules. If you wish to filter messages already sent
then you need to create read
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:13:18 +0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:
SL Ungh. If I wanted to read like that I'd switch to Pine or Mutt and be
SL done with it. Total lack of any indication of where new mail is? Nasty,
SL nasty, nasty.
TF I'd like to know how many unread messages are in the folder
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:37:54PM -0500, Curtis wrote:
SL Why would anyone use an MDI editor in the first place? It offers
SL only limitations over SDI editors.
Not editors that offer both MDI and SDI options.
Anyway, that's a strawman argument there. You're deviating again into an
Hi Curtis,
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:22:57 -0500GMT (10/08/2000, 15:22 +0800GMT),
Curtis wrote:
C I need more info. Is this incoming messages that you need to
C filter. Or do you wish to filter messages already received? If the
C messages are received, are they already read, are they unread or is
Hi Curtis,
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:26:27 -0500GMT (10/08/2000, 15:26 +0800GMT),
Curtis wrote:
C This is why a status bar for the view folder window displaying the
C number of unread to total messages would help a great deal.
To the contrary, I would say a status bar for the view folder window
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Hello Johannes,
Wednesday, August 09, 2000, 20:09:41, you wrote:
JMP I was talking with my own experience in mind, which is the
JMP 100% digital phone network in Europe. As you can get ISDN in every
JMP (!!) lost corner around here, thus having
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Hello TBUDL,
What is involved in creating a dll to interface with something other
than pgp? A dll that works with the bat.
Does this file TB_Addon.dll have something hardcoded in to do it?
What if someone had a crypto++ dll could that be made to
Hi,
AFAIK, there's no way of disabling this confirmation dialog.
JMP [X] Wishlist :(
[X] Help | feedback ;-)
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Wolfgang
Co-moderator TBUDL / TBBETA discussion lists
Using The Bat! 1.45 under Windows 95 4.0 Build B
in Stadtallendorf, Germany,
on a 166Mhz Cyrix, 128MB
Hi Johannes,
So you are a very privileged person. I consider your argument
arrogant and unpolite to those readers here, who are not as
privileged as you are (and I am) considered internet access costs.
JMP What?! *Priviledged*? I know that in roughly 70% of countries you have
JMP somewhat
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I've just moved over to The Bat! from OE5 and want to import my
mailboxes. Using Tools/Import Messages/Mail Import Wizard, a list of
clients to import from comes up, including OE5. I click on the radio
button and TB asks me for the OE folder in
Hello list,
I'm a relatively new user of The Bat!, and I was wondering if there's
any way to use the program with GNU Privacy Guard instead of PGP?
Because my existing keys are created with GPG, and I haven't got PGP
installed here at the moment.
If it's not possible, GPG is supposed
Hi Januk,
Is there a way to fully delete a message rather than send it to
the Trash folder, whence it will eventually be purged?
This has been asked a couple of times now, perhaps it is ready for
the FAQ treatment?
Agreed.
WARNING: If you use the Folder-Refilter option, any
Hi Holger,
But there's one problem, I seem to not be able to use the program to get
my Email from my main account. The error message I get is "ERR [AUTH]
password supplied is incorrect".
Sorry for restating the obvious: have you checked the case of your
password? Passwords are usually case
Hi Ming-Li,
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 01:52:06 -0700GMT (10/08/2000, 16:52 +0800GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:
ML It's indeed a nagging problem being unable to stop manual filters
ML from running. In this case, however, it can be worked around by
ML trying to make the filter string as "unmatchable" as
Hi Katsmeow,
One filter I am trying to set up is to filter all mail sent from
one account to another account (where I will then filter it
again).
If you mean you want the filters of the destination account to be
applied automatically when a message is filtered into it, I don't
think it can
Hi Thomas,
Thanks. I talked with our system admin (who speaks very little
English) and he said, OE works, so it must be my software that is
faulty, and I should change to OE... :-(
You may want to take a look at MS Knowledgebase article Q188250 at
Hi Thomas,
Wouldn't it be easier to uncheck "Active" instead of fiddling
around with the filter rules itself?
I though that would make it impossible to apply the filter with a
hotkey. But I was wrong. Just tried. Thanks.
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Best regards,
Ming-Li
The Bat! 1.46 Beta/3 | Win2k SP1
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Hi Johannes,
I owe you a beer ;) At first I didn't realize that you aren't
located in Germany. I was talking with my own experience in mind,
which is the 100% digital phone network in Europe. As you can get
ISDN in every (!!) lost corner around here,
Really!? Are you sure? Can you get ISDN
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, Kjetil Limkjaer wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about
Using The Bat! with GPG:
KL I'm a relatively new user of The Bat!, and I was wondering if there's
KL any way to use the program with GNU Privacy Guard instead of PGP?
KL Because
Hello Steve,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 8:31:00 AM, you wrote:
SL On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 08:37:54PM -0500, Curtis wrote:
SL Why would anyone use an MDI editor in the first place? It offers
SL only limitations over SDI editors.
Not editors that offer both MDI and SDI options.
What are
Hi Ming-Li,
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:32:16 -0700GMT (10/08/2000, 17:32 +0800GMT),
Ming-Li wrote:
One filter I am trying to set up is to filter all mail sent from
one account to another account (where I will then filter it
again).
ML If you mean you want the filters of the destination account
Hi Nick,
What purpose does the "Nickname" play in Address Book entries?
Try type the nickname in the TO field in a new message, then hit the
TAB key to go to next field (or click on any header field), and
you'll see.
How does it differ from the "Display name as" entry?
I think it's self
Hello, the Bat! list recipients,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, Graham wrote to Steve Lamb about
Two Format Questions:
G What are MDI and SDI editors?? Guys, I'm not a programmer and very
G much a tyro in all this!
E.g. M$ Word is MDI editor, notepad is SDI editor.
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Best regards,
Oleg
Hi Thomas,
One filter I am trying to set up is to filter all mail sent from
one account to another account (where I will then filter it
again).
ML If you mean you want the filters of the destination account to be
ML applied automatically when a message is filtered into it, I don't
ML think
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:14:15 +0100, Graham wrote:
G What are MDI and SDI editors?? Guys, I'm not a programmer and very
G much a tyro in all this!
MDI - Multiple Document Interface. Here, you may open more than one
document in a single running instance of the editor. Tabs run across the
screen
In Reference to "The magical mystical disappearing text trick." From Thomas Fernandez:
T just the folder view window is blank?
Nah, the folder view is fine, the message preview pane goes blank.
T Don't cancel it just yet. ;-)
I'll start shaving my head this weekend.
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- Nick
Mailer:
In Reference to "The magical mystical disappearing text trick." From Nick Andriash:
N Cancel the lobotomy Nick... It frequently happens to me as well, and as
N a matter of fact, it just happened a few moments ago.
Any idea if it's ever been submitted as bug to Ritlabs?
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- Nick
Mailer:
Hi there Ming-Li,
Am 10.08.2000 so gegen 10:57 meintest Du:
Really!? Are you sure? Can you get ISDN in, say, Kosovo, or Poland?
I think they are part of Europe, too. (If the answer is yes, then I
envy you Europeans.)
In Poland, yes, they have the same E-DSS1 as we (means you can buy
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Hey Wolfgang ^:)
Am 10.08.2000 so gegen 09:30 meintest Du:
So you insist in beeing unpolite to the remaining 30% ?
What you call "Internet" in the remaining 30% ist nor what we
understand under the termn "Internet".
This has always been a list for people
Hi there Thomas,
Am 10.08.2000 so gegen 05:55 meintest Du:
Anytime. :-)
Gimme a call when you're back in good old Germany ;)
Remember 2400bps? Those were the times... g
Uhhh. I started with a really old 14,4k back in 1995...
No, what I mean is, it depends of the inormation content. If a
Hi there Thomas,
Am 10.08.2000 so gegen 05:26 meintest Du:
Go to www.egroups.com and look for a group called "tbot".
I just subscribed, thanks ;) I'd say we move the thread over there...
Cheers,
Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi there Wolfgang,
Am 10.08.2000 so gegen 09:36 meintest Du:
[X] Help | feedback ;-)
*done* :) Now let's see if someting happens...
Cheers,
Johannesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:43:00 AM, Oleg wrote:
SL use are a little more advaced than the garden variety notepad programmed by a
SL shareware wannabe visual basic programmer?
Because I don't exit my UltraEdit. I just close project with all files
Hello users,
Over the last few days, Marck and I have received a flood of e-mail
concerning the flame wars on the TB lists.
New list rule in effect as of right now!
Marck, Wolfgang and I are the list moderators-- the *only* list
moderators.
It is our job to ensure that things run smoothly
Hi Johannes,
On 10 August 2000 at 15:15:52 GMT +0200 (which was 14:15 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "OT? S/MIME PGP (inspired by: Re[2]: List server rules)":
No, what I mean is, it depends of the inormation content. If a
message has 1.2K
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Hello Steve,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 14:29:25, you wrote:
SL Like I said, a cheap, garden variety notepad wannabe. Get a real
editor.
SL Unless you've got Word or Emacs there is /NO/ need for the editor to
remain
SL in memory except to
Hello The Bat! developers,
I'm using The Bat! Version 1.46 Beta/3
Serial Number 4AA0E565
under Windows 98 4.10 Build A .
There are some features I would like to see in your program:
Hi,
Is it currently possible to define a "system-wide" set of message
templates that can be
Hello Graham,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 4:00:09 AM, you wrote:
G I've just moved over to The Bat! from OE5 and want to import my
G mailboxes. Using Tools/Import Messages/Mail Import Wizard, a list of
G clients to import from comes up, including OE5. I click on the radio
G button and TB asks
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 7:20:46 AM, Jamie wrote:
So what exactly is better than UltraEdit? In my opinion and it blows
Word and Emacs out of the water.
I've never used it. Why should I when I've had joe and vim?
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Steve C. Lamb
Hi,
When I receive a mail, I autoreply with a random generated tracking
number, using the macro. This tracking number is put in the subject
line.
If the guy replied to that email, I would like to be able to TEST the
subject line, as I want KEEP the tracking number of this mail.
That
Hello TBUDL,
Could someone please tell me where i can get a copy of the list
Rules...
Thanks
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PGPKey Req: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=pgpgetkey
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On August 10, 2000, at 5:54:57 AM, Nick Danger Wrote:
N Cancel the lobotomy Nick... It frequently happens to me as well, and as
N a matter of fact, it just happened a few moments ago.
ND Any idea if it's ever been submitted as bug to Ritlabs?
Probably not, as I've never seen anyone mention it
On August 10, 2000, at 3:18:33 AM, Kjetil Limkjaer Wrote:
KL I think I'll just get PGP and work my way from there. However, there
KL are advantages to GPG, especially regarding licensing.. So I'd like to
KL be able to use it. But I don't use encryption much for e-mail right
KL now, so ATM
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 10:51:18 AM, Kenneth wrote:
Ideally there should be a standard editor "server protocol" that all
editors should support so that editor-using clients (like mail
composition programs) need not include an editor but can tie
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 10:58:03 AM, Nick wrote:
One of the nicest little MDI Editors I use is called EditPad. It's
Freeware, and you can take a look at it here:
http://www.jgsoft.com/editpadlite.html
Yikes. How can anyone get any work
On August 10, 2000, at 11:18:35 AM, Steve Lamb Wrote:
http://www.jgsoft.com/editpadlite.html
SL Yikes. How can anyone get any work done in that thing? Suffers from
SL about as much EMACSitus as TB! does.
The choice of Editors is all "need" dependant, and EditPad Lite meets my
meager
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 8:19:02 AM, Leif Gregory, wrote:
[...]
From now on, if a message is deemed outside of the bounds by the
moderators (and only the moderators), the poster will receive a
warning via private e-mail.
[...]
Using the above snippet as as an example, I'd like to ask if
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 11:09:01 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
What other protocol is there that will work across all platforms? Every
other form of direct process control is platform specific. The only things
you can count on are the basics on the OS level.
First, does it need to be cross-platform?
In Reference to "The magical mystical disappearing text trick." From Nick Andriash:
N It frequently happens to me as well, and as a matter of fact, it
N just happened a few moments ago.
Hey Nick, as a fellow disappearing text buddy I think I may have
narrowed down the occurrences a bit. Next
Hi Joe,
On Thursday 10/08/2000 at 20:27, you wrote:
snip
I think the program is arbitrarily inserting that quote code "" in
there, but I can't figure out why. It's not a quote, and I don't
think Leif typed that "".
So why do these things keep popping up in so many of my messages?
Odd, it
Hello Joe Finocchiaro,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 9:27:31 PM, you wrote:
snip
Must be something on your end, although I don't have a clue as to
what. Here is the quote from the message I received:
From now on, if a message is deemed outside of the bounds by the
moderators (and only the
Hi Deryk Lister,
On Thursday, August 10, 2000 at 9:44:06 PM you wrote:
Hi Joe,
On Thursday 10/08/2000 at 20:27, you wrote:
snip
I think the program is arbitrarily inserting that quote code "" in
there, but I can't figure out why. It's not a quote, and I don't
think Leif typed that "".
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:57:32 PM, Kenneth Porter, wrote:
[...]
From now on,
Using the above snippet as as an example, I'd like to ask if anyone
knows why this "problem" appears to happen to me so frequently?
Does it happen to everyone else? Please check that message you recently
received
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:32:09 PM, Kenneth wrote:
First, does it need to be cross-platform? Would one run an email client
and editor on different machines?
TB! will soon be on Linux. The issue isn't what the user will do, but
what the
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:32:00 PM, Peter wrote:
The PCRE part of the help file is IMHO one of most complete help
topics, once you've found it. My tip for locating it: open Help, go to
the find tab and enter "regular". Choose the entry "What
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:01:08 PM, Nick wrote:
The choice of Editors is all "need" dependant, and EditPad Lite meets my
meager needs perfectly when I want to quickly open or create a small
text file. :o)
I fail to see why one needs to
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 3:12:36 PM, István Szendrõ, wrote:
IS Hello Joe Finocchiaro,
IS Thursday, August 10, 2000, 9:27:31 PM, you wrote:
IS snip
IS Must be something on your end, although I don't have a clue as to
IS what. Here is the quote from the message I received:
From now on, if a
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Hi Joe,
On 10 August 2000 at 15:27:30 GMT -0500 (which was 21:27 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of ""From" in a message":
KP I believe that comes from sendmail, and is due to the nature of
KP Unix
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:44:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
TB! will soon be on Linux.
Cool!
Which needs to be defined for each editor. Most editors can't even
implement anything more complex than a simple search and replace correctly. I
doubt they would even begin to consider this. No,
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 1:58:11 PM, Marck wrote:
No. Only those of us who have a sendmail server between the list
server (which is MDaemon running on a WinNT/2K PC) and the end user
POP server.
It isn't sendmail, it is the
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:22:25 PM, Kenneth wrote:
I was thinking that more powerful editors like those you and I use
could implement this as either a core function or in an add-on DLL (.so
for Linux). Stupider editors could rely on a small
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 3:43:04 PM, Steve Lamb, wrote:
SL Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:27:31 PM, Joe wrote:
Does it happen to everyone else? Please check that message you recently
received from Leif and let me know if that "" appeared in your copy.
SL Well, see, this is where us,
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:29:43 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
It isn't sendmail, it is the delivery agent and only on mbox format. The
POP server that can read mbox format should also know how to unescape a From
like that.
Not sure about the latter. How would you tell the difference between a
line
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:53:38 -0500, Joe Finocchiaro wrote:
SL But, of course, don't take my word for it, chances are I'm just yanking
SL your chain.
JF Steve, I wouldn't take your word for *anything.*
JF Not if it was chipped in granite, gilded in gold, or just scribbled
JF on the wall of
I'm still relatively new to using the mail ticker's "virtual folder"
to read my mail ... is there no way to refresh the virtual folder as
new mail arrives, short of shutting it down and reopening it?
Chuck
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 3:58:11 PM, Marck D. Pearlstone, wrote:
[...]
MDP On 10 August 2000 at 15:27:30 GMT -0500 (which was 21:27 where I
MDP live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of ""From" in a message":
KP I believe that comes from sendmail, and is due to
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 2:49:48 PM, Kenneth wrote:
Not sure about the latter. How would you tell the difference between a
line that was escaped vs. one that was originally in that form before
sending? The MUA could make an educated guess based
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:47:29 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
SL Thursday, August 10, 2000, 12:32:00 PM, Peter wrote:
The PCRE part of the help file is IMHO one of most complete help
topics, once you've found it. My tip for locating it: open Help, go to
the find tab and enter "regular". Choose the
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 5:04:59 PM, Curtis, wrote:
C On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:53:38 -0500, Joe Finocchiaro wrote:
SL But, of course, don't take my word for it, chances are I'm just yanking
SL your chain.
JF Steve, I wouldn't take your word for *anything.*
JF Not if it was chipped in granite,
Thought users of 3rd party email programs (competitors of MS Outlook)
might find this article amusing:
"Brown Orifice" Is Only The Beginning
http://www.i-want-a-website.com/about-linux/
Ken
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.sewingwitch.com/ken/
http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/
Kill the
On Thu, Aug 10, 2000 at 05:49:01PM -0500, Joe Finocchiaro wrote:
Apparently he can't write a message without being sarcastic.
Odd, I've written about a dozen today without sarcasm. Maybe you can't
read my messages without sarcasm?
to one of my posts (no, I don't need nor want his help),
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:49:48 -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote:
KP Not sure about the latter. How would you tell the difference between a
KP line that was escaped vs. one that was originally in that form before
KP sending? The MUA could make an educated guess based on context, I
KP suppose, but is
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Wednesday, August 09, 2000, Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a single filter for about 30 of my friends and a few others for
others who send messages often enough to deserve a folder each. I filter
on sender name. All work perfectly.
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Hi Chuck,
On 10 August 2000 at 17:14:39 GMT -0500 (which was 23:14 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Virtual Folder Refresh?":
CM I'm still relatively new to using the mail ticker's "virtual folder"
CM
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:49:01 -0500, Joe Finocchiaro wrote:
JF I thought my reply was well within bounds, Curtis, I rewrote it
JF several times, in fact, to get it there.
JF The above is *sarcasm,* sarcasm in direct response to Lamb's own sarcasm, and
JF I thought sarcasm was allowed?
JF If not,
Hello The Bat! users,
Nick Andriash wrote on 8/10/2000, 7:13 PM
ND Any idea if it's ever been submitted as bug to Ritlabs?
I submitted it in January , then using v1.38e...
NA Are you going to submit one?
I guess it still wouldn't hurt. :)
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The great question... which I have
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000 18:15:47 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the filter rule, create your source and destination folders, insert
your first search string under the 'filter strings' dialog. For the
other strings you need to check for, go to the Alternative's tab and
using the 'Add Set'
Hello Cameleon,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 10:59:09 AM, you wrote:
C Something else: Is it possible to automatically create a folder, when
C receiving an email with a special content (in the subject, or the
C from) ? And of course to put this email into the new-created folder :)
You want
Hello Kjetil,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 4:28:08 AM, you wrote:
KL I'm a relatively new user of The Bat!, and I was wondering if there's
KL any way to use the program with GNU Privacy Guard instead of PGP?
KL Because my existing keys are created with GPG, and I haven't got PGP
KL
C Something else: Is it possible to automatically create a folder, when
C receiving an email with a special content (in the subject, or the
C from) ? And of course to put this email into the new-created folder :)
You want the macro to create the folder and put the mail in it?
Yes !
On Thursday, August 10, 2000 at 6:44 PM or thereabouts, Marck D.
Pearlstone wrote the following about Virtual Folder Refresh?:
CM I'm still relatively new to using the mail ticker's "virtual
CM folder" to read my mail ... is there no way to refresh the
CM virtual folder as new mail arrives,
Hello Cameleon,
Thursday, August 10, 2000, 10:06:29 PM, you wrote:
C Something else: Is it possible to automatically create a folder, when
C receiving an email with a special content (in the subject, or the
C from) ? And of course to put this email into the new-created folder :)
You
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 7:34:24 PM, Cricket wrote:
There is no need to install PGP. Doesnt TB! have a built in PGP
module? ... under Tools-Privacy-PGP_Version
First of GPG isn't PGP. Secondly the build in version can only deal with
RSA
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Thursday, August 10, 2000, 5:08:04 PM, Joe wrote:
Thanks, everyone out there who gave me a lot of help, and there were
quite a few of you!
You're most welcome.
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Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
Hi Leif,
On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 06:37:04 +0900GMT (11/08/2000, 05:37 +0800GMT),
Leif Gregory wrote:
LG 3. There comes a time in every argument that it becomes a dead
LGhorse. If you wish to continue to beat this horse, take it
LGto private e-mail.
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