Merdelanche might be more apropos. Or to be more castillanish, cacalancha...
T.
-Original Message-
From: Gill Ediger gi...@worldnet.att.net
Sent: Dec 4, 2008 7:54 PM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Guanological question
At 03:33 PM 12/4/2008, Geary Schindel wrote:
Excellent, Devra!
I think we need a runoff (or a Texas Death Match) between craptastrophe and
crapalanche.
Mark
From: Devra Heyer [mailto:djhe...@swbell.net]
Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 9:29 PM
To: Texas Cavers; Geary Schindel
Subject: Re: [Texascavers]
Both craptastrophe and crapalanche could be describing a slide at a feed lot.
We need a bat-specific term.
Chiropteralanche wouldn't quite be it, as it would imply a slide of the bats
themselves, but you can see what I mean...
BTW, Anybody know the angle of repose of guano? Jacqui
We would need to do some testing in a good geotech lab as the properties
are different for materials that are wet verses dry, lithofied verse
unlithofied, compacted, or altered by weathering or leaching,
susceptible to liquefaction from vibration, etc. The laboratory work
would need to be done
I say its poopposterus that we even excogitate the naming of such a
craptastophie as a crapolanche of quano. Its clear that when such a
movement occurs and someone is trapped by it, they are in deep shit. This
has been clearly established in literature and life, and although this
phrase may have
Volume 3 of the revived Alpine Karst magazine, just published, is a
reprint of the four numbers of the old Alpine Karst that were
published 1975-1978. Assembled by Tina Oliphant (mostly from scans I
made), it contains a total of about 200 pages of good old stuff about
the first cave
Good morning, Texas cavers,
This morning as I was leaving home to go to work I noticed a very thick white
envelop hanging out of our mail slot on the front porch. I got it and it was a
complimentary copy of the new Alpine Karst magazine. I wrote several articles
that are in it, so that's why I
texascavers Digest 5 Dec 2008 16:13:02 - Issue 659
Topics (messages 9565 through 9585):
Re: Philosophical question
9565 by: George-Paul Richmann
9566 by: Lyndon Tiu
9570 by: Devra Heyer
9571 by: Don Arburn
9574 by: Lyndon Tiu
9576 by:
At 09:08 PM 12/4/2008, David wrote:
I have some very tiny skin protrusions growing under my arms that
are annoying. I hope to get them removed someday, however, I don't
have a lot of faith in dermatologist.
Sand paper.
--Ediger
Or, a repeated application of Iodine might dissolve them and it's less
abrasive. It worked on my children's warts.
Fritz
-Original Message-
From: Gill Ediger [mailto:gi...@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:11 PM
To: o...@texascavers.com
Subject: [ot_caving] Hygiene
I concur with Don, Dave.
Suck it up and nip 'em!
As John Brooks can attest to, those of us who are folically-challenged and
shave our heads usually encounter this at first.
I used to have a couple of moles on my head that proved to be a detriment to
shaving. After a couple of early morning
Some people get these from shaving.
-Original Message-
From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:09 PM
To: o...@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Personal Hygiene Tip - NO MORE DEODORANT
Here are some pretty armpit photos:
Texas Cavers!
At this point I have no idea of how many of us are presenting papers at
the upcoming ICS next July in Kerrville, but if you are planning to and
haven't submitted an abstract yet, you have a little reprieve! See the
following message from Dave Hubbard. Instructions for abstracts
I may have been in deeper or worse guano before.but the grossest for me
was in Stowers Cave in Texas. I went a little way past the bat room at the
back into a crawland the floor was about 16 inches of bat guano with the
gelatinous quality of jello.the smell was horrid...and I was
David wrote:
I am just curious which cave passages have you experienced your
worst encounter with bat guano.
The Vampire guano in Japones Cave in Mexico was pretty bad. Really deep red and
sticky-slimy gooey. And the vampires were in a complete frenzy filling the
passage and stirring up the
Sounds like we have some good candidates for the Carbide Corner in some
upcoming TEXAS CAVERs.
Any takers want to submit a bio and apropos column?
Thanks,
(An always looking for material editor) Mark
From: vivb...@att.net [mailto:vivb...@att.net]
So is this a new record for TexasCavers? A discussion that contains
scatological humor, scientific study of guano fall rates, actual caving
stories, new word creation and a reference to George Veni's testicles!
Geary and Locklear may need to be punished for this :-) Maybe a roadtrip
from
Joe,
Been there and done that with David - at least almost all the way to
Valles - I think we both paid our dues. As I've told David a couple of
times, I think he has the worst case of sleep apnea of any LIVING human.
I think someone should write up an abstract for the ICS on the need to
I think there have been some nasty fungal infections related to wading
through liquidy bat guano (or bat guanoy water, I don't know where one would
draw the line on terminology).
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Geary Schindel
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote:
For example, we haven't
I have manfully refrained (to date) from commenting. However, my inbox has
overflowed as a result of a gigantic crapalanche from Texascavers. I just
looked, and it is up over my ankles at the moment.
DirtDoc
-- Original message --
From: jran...@gmail.com
So is this a
Fecalanche:
n.
• A fall or slide of a large mass, as of feces or guano, down a
slope.
• A massive or overwhelming amount; a flood: received an avalanche
of crap.
v., -lanched, -lanch·ing, -lanch·es.
v.intr.
To fall or slide in a massive or overwhelming amount of poo.
v.tr.
To
Guanalogically speaking:
Chiroptocoprolitalanche
Mishugalanche
Oy!
Roger
In a message dated 12/05/08 08:03:46 Central Standard Time,
jlrbi...@sonoratx.net writes:
Both craptastrophe and crapalanche could be describing a slide at a feed lot.
We need a bat-specific term.
texascavers Digest 5 Dec 2008 18:26:29 - Issue 660
Topics (messages 9586 through 9595):
Re: Nasty experiences with bat guano
9586 by: Jim Kennedy
Re: guano question
9587 by: jranzau.gmail.com
9589 by: Geary Schindel
9590 by: Ron Rutherford
9591 by:
http://www.medicinenet.com/skin_tag/article.htm
Let's not forget the scenes in the BBC/Discovery Channel show on caves
of the huge cockroach-covered mountain of guano in Sarawak. -- Mixon
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Personal:
Folks,
I'm sorry but the abstract deadline is definately NOT extended. The Science
C0mmittee is completely swamped and we set the submission deadline as late
as possible. I am not guaranteeing that ANY abstract submitted after the
December 1st deadline will be reviewed. The note from David Hubbard
FYI
Mark Minton
From: Mixon BillSent: Fri 12/5/2008 1:22 PMTo: Cavers TexasCc: Rea TomSubject: [Texascavers] NSS dues going up
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The original explorers (Sul Ross Speleological Society, 1962) often referred to
that as the putrid pool. It was waist-deep at the time and hitherto
undisturbed. Their presence released large bubbles of ammonia and methane (?)
and the whole experience was nearly overpowering. Those conditions
I've been through that passage myself a couple of times. It's every bit
as nasty as Viv describes, maybe even worse. But the correct name for
the passage is the Bubble, Bubble, Guano and Trouble Passage. I had to
go back to the write-up in the February 1980 issue of The TEXAS CAVER
for that
I didn't put the passage's name on the map because there wasn't space. I
really wanted to because it is one my favorite places in the cave.
George
From: Jim Kennedy [mailto:jkenn...@batcon.org]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:30 AM
To: Texascavers Mailing List
Subject: [Texascavers] RE:
ugggh, that is foul. I couldn't finish my coffee after reading those.
Sounds like *guanogeddon!*
**
-B
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:55 PM, George Veni gv...@warpdriveonline.comwrote:
*I didn't put the passage's name on the map because there wasn't space. I
really wanted to because it is one
This concludes the class on Guanonomics I.
We may now all await the return of the Swallows to Crapistrano.
F
From: Brian Riordan [mailto:riordan.br...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:30 PM
To: George Veni
Cc: Texascavers Mailing List
Subject: Re:
You mean las colon-drinas? Entonces, ya basta.
I didn't think the guano lake in Sorcerer's was that bad--but then I
didn't fall in up to my lips. What I didn't like so much was the
waterfall of dry dirt and dust that pours on you as you climb one of
the drops.
Ed
This concludes the
Perhaps the most dangerous and ridiculous thing I have ever done was to help
dismantle a fire tower in rural Georgia for the purpose of transporting it
to Belize, where even today many years later it is slowly rising from the
jungle to be reborn as a monkey watching tower. The first of many
Bruce,
What a wonderful web site. Thanks,
Be careful in Laos,
G
From: bmorgan...@aol.com [mailto:bmorgan...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:35 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Guanundation
Perhaps the most dangerous and ridiculous thing I
to all who came to the 12/3 meeting:
This is pretty trivial to use up bandwidth on, but -- I dropped my favorite
cap at the end of the meeting, didn't realize it until I was on my way out
of the building. By the time I got back, well, someone had found it.
I'd love to have it back if it
texascavers Digest 6 Dec 2008 00:08:52 - Issue 661
Topics (messages 9596 through 9605):
Deluge
9596 by: dirtdoc.comcast.net
disgusting guano
9597 by: Mixon Bill
Re: Nasty experiences with bat guano
9598 by: George Veni
9600 by: Brian Riordan
9601
Folks,
The Bexar Grotto Holiday Party is scheduled for Saturday, December 13
starting at 6:00 PM at the Geary, Sue, Graham, and Aspen Schindel's
house located at 11310 Whisper Dawn, San Antonio, Texas 78230. Phone
number at the house is 210-326-1576. ALL cavers and friends are welcome
to
No ROOFS!? Bummer. I'll behave this time.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 5, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Geary Schindel
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote:
Folks,
The Bexar Grotto Holiday Party is scheduled for Saturday, December
13 starting at 6:00 PM at the Geary, Sue, Graham, and Aspen Schindel
You are right. Some of it got pretty interesting.
There was just such a PILE of it.
DirtDoc
I agree, this thread is a veritable guanocological disaster. As far as
profound guano experiences, I was once up to my armpits in James River
Bat Cave. I was doing fine until I stopped, but the guano continued
moving around me, spurred on by the prolific biological community with
which I was
One of the things I was trying to do was steer this discussion away
from the undignified use of the way too generic and overly
euphemistic, uninspired word crap. Surely we are a more
sophisticated and scientifically oriented society than one that's
stuck on crap when there are dozens of more
A guanoclastic flow perhaps?
Corky
Gill Ediger wrote:
One of the things I was trying to do was steer this discussion away
from the undignified use of the way too generic and overly
euphemistic, uninspired word crap. Surely we are a more
sophisticated and scientifically oriented society than
I'm no linguist or wordsmith and I prolly got it all wrong but this
seemed fun, and so I tried:
Guano (from the Quechua 'wanu', via Spanish) is the excrement (feces
and urine) of seabirds, bats, and seals.[1] The word guano
originates from the Quichua language of the Inca civilization and
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A few days ago, I briefly reported a new Intel chip and motherboard.
Here is a complete computer using this:
http://www.gateway.com/systems/product/529668210.php
Looks like a nice computer for $ 1,300.
It will probably drop to $ 1,100 in January.
I imagine that in 2 or 3 years or less, this
David, this is the latest and greatest from Intel. In 6 months, we'll
see an upgrade from them, if not sooner. This isn't the end-all,
be-all of processors, and while it is a decent upgrade from their
Core2Duo technology, it's not that significant.
The price of these processors will drop to
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