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2009-08-26 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Bill, I joined cavetex back June 16th of 2005, and I'm assuming that you were one of the first to join up, but if not, you can probably help me out. I'm looking to build the complete archives, and I'm not picky about formats at this time, depending on how hard it will be to import into the google

Re: Re: [Texascavers] Bear Grylls goes caving (with a torch made of a strip of t-shirt soaked in wild boar fat)

2009-08-26 Thread tbsamsel
I bet there are clips of Andrew Zimmer chowing down on bugs, too. TAug 26, 2009 12:08:57 AM, dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like portions of Bear Grylls' videos in caves are availablefor free viewing on-line.Here are 5 of

[Texascavers] 2010 TCR

2009-08-26 Thread Linda Palit
Some beautiful country up that way - you guys could find the spot and put on the next TCR there! I'll come! From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 7:18 AM To: John P. Brooks; Linda Palit; Andy Zenker; TexasCavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers]

texascavers Digest 26 Aug 2009 12:47:09 -0000 Issue 835

2009-08-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Aug 2009 12:47:09 - Issue 835 Topics (messages 11855 through 11865): Re: 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion 11855 by: Charles Goldsmith 11856 by: Bill Bentley 11857 by: Bill Bentley 11858 by: Charles Goldsmith 11863 by:

RE: [Texascavers] Climbing Cave Entrances

2009-08-26 Thread SS
Ahh..but at the end of the day.aren't all those unsightly marks just an eyesore for us humans occupying this mere blink the geologic eye..At the end of the day there really is nothing we can do to harm a cave since it is not the same place today that it was ten thousand years ago and it will

Re: [Texascavers] Climbing Cave Entrances

2009-08-26 Thread Gary McDaniel
Back in '93 or '94 a close friend (I'll not name him here) and I cleaned the Cub overhang (with the assistance of Joe and Linda's * extraordinarily* rickety 30ft extension ladder) of all those ugly 'biners and 'draws and and used the leavings to subsidize my early caving career. I

RE: [Texascavers] Climbing Cave Entrances

2009-08-26 Thread Linda Palit
HEY! I still have and use that ladder without incident. Rickety must have been user error! And I'd never have loaned it out for such questionable endeavors! From: Gary McDaniel [mailto:scar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:52 AM To: SS Cc: Cavers Texas Subject: Re:

RE: August 22nd Longhorn Results

2009-08-26 Thread Mark . Alman
Was anyone interested in writing a more lengthy trip report (I'll take all comers) and sending pix my way for the next TEXAS CAVER? Sounds like a good and interesting trip, by all reports! Thanks! Mark From: ellie.tho...@gmail.com

Re: August 22nd Longhorn Results

2009-08-26 Thread George-Paul Richmann
I can give it a try On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:46 AM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: Was anyone interested in writing a more lengthy trip report (I'll take all comers) and sending pix my way for the next TEXAS CAVER? Sounds like a good and interesting trip, by all reports! Thanks! Mark

[NMCAVER] Circling in the Guads

2009-08-26 Thread Pete Lindsley
Dwight, I think know that spot. We found that spot the night when we hiked back up the ridge after discovering (finally) Sentinel. The New Mexicans were traveling light that day and made it past the spot before nightfall. However, the Texans had full backpacks because they had planned on

[NMCAVER] Holy Romance! Bats Use Love Songs During Mating, Researchers Say

2009-08-26 Thread Lee H. Skinner
See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090825090751.htm ___ NMCAVER mailing list nmca...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/nmcaver_caver.net

[Texascavers] RE: Cub Cave - part 2

2009-08-26 Thread Mark Minton
Stefan Creaser said: 3. I think my concern is that the large number of bolts that could suddenly appear in a scenic cave. 3) Probably not, there would be plenty of stuff to tie the ropes too Actually that's not always true. In fact these days with European style rigging and

RE: [Texascavers] RE: Cub Cave - part 2

2009-08-26 Thread Stefan Creaser
From: Mark Minton [mailto:mmin...@caver.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:06 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Cub Cave - part 2 Stefan Creaser said: 3. I think my concern is that the large number of bolts that could suddenly appear in a

Re: [Texascavers] film trailer

2009-08-26 Thread Alex Sproul
Wow, Greg! Stupendous trailer! Herman and Nico couldn't have said it better! I'm on the edge of my armchair! Alex On 24 Aug 2009 at 20:34, Nico Escamilla wrote: Summer 2010? I cant wait a whole year to see it On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 7:21 PM,

Re: [NMCAVER] [Texascavers] China contacts for a caving trip in late October?

2009-08-26 Thread dirtdoc
- Original Message - From: Renee Skwara renee.skw...@gmail.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 3:33:20 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: [Texascavers] China contacts for a caving trip in late October? I am going to China in late October this

texascavers Digest 26 Aug 2009 19:18:38 -0000 Issue 836

2009-08-26 Thread texascavers-digest-help
texascavers Digest 26 Aug 2009 19:18:38 - Issue 836 Topics (messages 11866 through 11877): Re: Climbing Cave Entrances 11866 by: Linda Palit Re: 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion 11867 by: J. LaRue Thomas 11873 by: Fritz Holt Re: Cub Cave - part 2 11868 by: Mark

[Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in...

2009-08-26 Thread Louise Power
Beer prices are going up again. Buy it now before the reunion. Anheuser-Busch InBev and MillerCoors say they will raise prices. Posted by Elizabeth Strott on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:37 AM Beer drinkers, get ready to shell out more for a Bud: Anheuser-Busch InBev (AHBIY) is boosting

RE: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in...

2009-08-26 Thread Mark . Alman
Another good reason to drink the official beer of ICS: Shiner! www.shiner.com Mark From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wed 8/26/2009 2:13 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in...

RE: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in...

2009-08-26 Thread Stefan Creaser
That's ok, I won't be drinking Miller or Bud Lite. Stefan From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Beer prices are going up again. Buy it now before the reunion. Anheuser-Busch InBev and MillerCoors say they will raise prices. -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents

RE: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in...

2009-08-26 Thread Fritz Holt
Me either. fritz From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:18 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in... That's ok, I won't be drinking Miller or Bud Lite. Stefan From: Louise

Re: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in...

2009-08-26 Thread George-Paul Richmann
Life is too short for bad beer! On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Fritz Holtfh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: Me either. fritz From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:18 PM To: Texas Cavers Subject: RE:

RE: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in...

2009-08-26 Thread Mark . Alman
Or, lest we forget. The official sponsor of the TSA Convention in April: Rahr and Sons Brewery. Makers of Blind Salamander beer! http://rahrbrewery.com/ Mark (All this beer talk is making me thirsty. Thanks goodness I have a 12 pack of Shiner Bock at home!)

RE: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in...

2009-08-26 Thread Jon
  Lets hear it for the Big Sal ! He never saw it coming ! --- On Wed, 8/26/09, mark.al...@l-3com.com mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: From: mark.al...@l-3com.com mark.al...@l-3com.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Reunion attendees: This just in... To: Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com, Texas

[Texascavers] Follow up on caving in China

2009-08-26 Thread dirtdoc
Follow up on caving in China:   Apple Liu and her companion, Matt Ryan (a Britt), run Dragon Expeditions http://www.dragonexpeditions.com/ out of Chengdu, Sichuan.   Both are competent vertical cavers, mountaineers, and ice climbers.   They have been involved with Hong Meigui

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2009-08-26 Thread texascavers-help
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Re: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com

2009-08-26 Thread Charles Goldsmith
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Re: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com

2009-08-26 Thread Charles Goldsmith
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[Texascavers] cave paleontology in the news

2009-08-26 Thread David
Here is an interesting story about some Indiana researchers diving in a cave in the Carribean and finding mammal bones of extinct species. http://www.usnews.com/articles/science/plants-animals/2009/08/18/sloth-and-primate-fossils-found-in-underwater-cave.html Exactly what is a prehistoric

[Texascavers] The next cave film in theatres

2009-08-26 Thread David
Here is a big budget film in the works about some Aussie cave divers that become trapped in an underwater cave: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25980783-601,00.html The film will shoot primarily at the Warner Bros studio with a second unit doing more cave photography.

[Texascavers] The September 2009 Issue of the Hole News

2009-08-26 Thread Bill Bentley
The September 2009 issue Volume 24 # 9 of the Permian Basin Speleological Society's The Hole News is now on the web in Adobe PDF format. It can be found at the URL listed below: http://www.caver.net/pbss/holenews/pbss9-09.pdf And as always more exciting years of back issues can be found

[Texascavers] interesting news - free diving in sumps

2009-08-26 Thread David
How many of you have ever been in a cave and done a duck under ? Like maybe in Honey Creek, where you hold your breath for just a second and go thru a very short sump and pop out on the other side. Or how about free diving a very short sump where you have to swim a few feet like in Carrizal or

RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

2009-08-26 Thread Mark . Alman
Charles is right, John. Allan IS looking for a replacement. (How much to NOT nominate you?!). Mark (always looking for a quick buck) From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org] Sent: Tue 8/25/2009 11:29 PM To: John P. Brooks Cc: Linda

RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

2009-08-26 Thread Mark . Alman
Ah, there are some scenic places in the DFW area to spend a leisurely Saturday afternoon in the water. The Trinity comes to mind, as long as you push the bodies aside to clear a spot! Mark (from Mesquite, just east of Dallas) From: John P. Brooks

Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

2009-08-26 Thread J. LaRue Thomas
It's next to Fort Worth... That's one point, anyway. J. - Original Message - From: Bill Bentley ca...@caver.net TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion Which ones? - Original Message

RE: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

2009-08-26 Thread Fritz Holt
Arlington's not bad either. Fritz -Original Message- From: J. LaRue Thomas [mailto:jlrbi...@sonoratx.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:01 AM To: TexasCavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion It's next to Fort Worth... That's one point, anyway. J. - Original

Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

2009-08-26 Thread donsid
Is that a good point or bad point? - Original Message - From: J. LaRue Thomas jlrbi...@sonoratx.net To: TexasCavers texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 8:00:42 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion It's

Re: [Texascavers] 2009 Texas Cavers Reunion

2009-08-26 Thread Gill Edigar
Did I read that correctly? Dallas has it's good points? Yeah, I guess, but most--maybe not all, to be fair--of them are several hours drive out of town. I was there once; I know.--Ediger

[Texascavers] delete button

2009-08-26 Thread Mixon Bill
I have a delete button like everybody else, but it nevertheless takes a while to delete forty new Texas Cavers list messages that are ten words each. And those worthless little Me either messages must be a real pain to those who monitor their e-mail messages frequently or are pestered by

Re: [Texascavers] delete button

2009-08-26 Thread Heather Tucek
Ok. ;) 2009/8/26 Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com I have a delete button like everybody else, but it nevertheless takes a while to delete forty new Texas Cavers list messages that are ten words each. And those worthless little Me either messages must be a real pain to those who monitor

Re: [Texascavers] delete button

2009-08-26 Thread Charles Goldsmith
ROFL, too funny Heather. I started to reply to all, but I best not stir the pot just yet... Charles On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Heather Tucektrog...@cavechat.org wrote: Ok. ;) 2009/8/26 Mixon Bill bmixon...@austin.rr.com I have a delete button like everybody else, but it

Re: [Texascavers] delete button

2009-08-26 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Well Bill, not everyone writes a dissertation when sending an email, and email really isn't a good medium for long exchanges, since there is very little to no inflection. While replying with just a LOL or Me Too is annoying to some people I guess, most of those people don't say much anyway. It's

Re: [Texascavers] delete button

2009-08-26 Thread Don Cooper
Well Look at it this way, ok? Mr. Mixon is not asking to bring on an edict, he's just asking us all to be considerate of the elements he pointed out. I don't think that's unreasonable. Ok this is a short reply, but I think it says enough, besides I'm not sending it to everyone on list either.