Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-24 Thread Fritz Holt
t;> >> >> From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:57 PM >> To: Missy Singleton >> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com >> Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy >> >> >> >> You are

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Charles Goldsmith
; > > > Just wondering…. > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:57 PM > *To:* Missy Singleton > *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com > *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy > &g

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread jerryatkin
; > > > > > From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:57 PM > To: Missy Singleton > Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy > > > > You are obviously an idiot (sic) then since you do

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Steve Keselik
n’t want to read their post. > > > > Just wondering…. > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:57 PM > *To:* Missy Singleton > *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com > *Subject:* RE:

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Bill Bentley
t all down... good I hope... Thanks, Bill (former list owner) - Original Message - From: Jon Cradit To: Stefan Creaser ; Missy Singleton Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy This seems t

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Jon Cradit
ELETE, the same is true for me and you, if I don't want to read their post. Just wondering From: Stefan Creaser [mailto:stefan.crea...@arm.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:57 PM To: Missy Singleton Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy You are obvi

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2013-10-23 Thread Missy Singleton
hread. Fuck off! Oh, and have a nice day! Missy From: stefan.crea...@arm.com To: missie...@hotmail.com CC: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:57:20 -0700 Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy You are obviously an idiot (sic) then since you don’t realize there is n

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Stefan Creaser
You are obviously an idiot (sic) then since you don't realize there is no way to avoid a thread when you're on a mailing list :-) If you tell the list what sort of tool/filter you use to read email - Outlook, Yahoo, Gmail, etc. I'm sure some nice person who's more technically savvy than I am (I

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Stefan Creaser
er 23, 2013 2:19 PM To: Louise Power; texas cavers Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy YOU ARE THE MESSENGER RIGHT NOW. PLEASE STOP EMAILING ME ABOUT THIS! From: power_lou...@hotmail.com<mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com> To: missie...@hotmail.com<mailto:m

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Missy Singleton
YOU ARE THE MESSENGER RIGHT NOW. PLEASE STOP EMAILING ME ABOUT THIS! From: power_lou...@hotmail.com To: missie...@hotmail.com; texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 12:16:53 -0700 I don't think it's possible for anyone othe

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Louise Power
ead. Do what I do, just delete. It's not exactly a secret what the subject of the messages are, so quit shooting the messengers. From: missie...@hotmail.com To: power_lou...@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:51:40 -0500 Sure do and thank you for i

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Don Arburn
y gently. >> Repeat as needed. >> >> To remove urushiol oil: (adults and children 2 years and older) >> >> >> >> Squeeze a desired amount of product into hand and mix with equal amount of >> water. >> Apply to exposed areas and gently rub f

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Missy Singleton
Can I please be removed from the Poison ivy thread? Thank you, Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:53:38 -0400 To: power_lou...@hotmail.com; donarb...@mac.com; texascavers@texascavers.com From: pw...@dca.net Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy All the inactive ingredients can be considered solvents

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Phil Winkler
Tecnu Extreme. * Rinse with cool running water and towel dry. Other information: Store at 59 to 89°F (15 to 30°C) -- From: donarb...@mac.com Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:13:49 -0500 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy When affected, I have

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Louise Power
y TZ From: Tom Rogers To: caverarch ; Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy I have had it many times. I have now from TCR. The best stuff to use is mineral spirits. The main ingredient in tecnu. Any alcohol based liquid

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-23 Thread Louise Power
take a look at these pics: http://img.webmd.com/dtmcms/live/webmd/consumer_assets/site_images/media/medical/hw/hwkb17_017_18_19.jpg Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:05:55 -0500 From: gi...@att.net To: dirt...@comcast.net CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-23 Thread Louise Power
27;ve been exposed. The biggest problem is when we get big wildland fires that burn through poison oak areas; you can't wash your lungs with Tech-Nu. Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:15:06 + From: dirt...@comcast.net To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

[Texascavers] Poison ivy at Paradise Canyon

2013-10-23 Thread Diana Tomchick
It seems to me that the people who came down with cases of poison ivy dermatitis were people who cut and gathered firewood for the hot tub, sauna and campfires. Good thing that it seems there was no poison ivy that got burned in the campfires, otherwise we'd have people in worse shape from breat

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Don Arburn
ical steroids if needed. > > Mary TZ > > From: Tom Rogers > To: caverarch ; Texascavers@texascavers.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy > > I have had it many times. I have now from TCR. The best stuff to use is &g

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Mary Thiesse
exascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy I have had it many times. I have now from TCR. The best stuff to use is mineral spirits. The main ingredient in tecnu. Any alcohol based liquid will work. Rub it on immediately. Rinse with water a

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-23 Thread Bob West
around it. She stopped getting it when she stopped handling my fathers dirty jeans putting them in the washing machine. Bob West Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:42:57 -0500 From: gi...@att.net To: dirt...@comcast.net CC: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst I

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Tom Rogers
the genitals. In the eye. Salt water every ten minutes. After that I can largely ignore regular exposures. --- Original Message --- From: "Gill Edigar" Sent: October 23, 2013 8:51 AM To: vivb...@att.net Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy I forgot to

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Tom Rogers
..@att.net Sent: October 23, 2013 8:27 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy If you're in Texas, it's Poison Ivy. Poison Oak grows on the West coast. the leaf and habit is pretty different, but still 3 leaflets per leaf, and variable. Poison Ivy fo

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Gill Edigar
The more you are exposed to it, the more sensitive you become. > You cannot develop an immunity. > Vivian Loftin > > -- > *From:* Bill Walden > *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:11 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Texa

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-23 Thread Phil Winkler
Pretty sure poison oak can be found in the eastern US, too. http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/poison-ivy-oak-and-sumac-leaves and sumac, too. At 10/23/2013 08:42 AM -0500, Gill Edigar wrote: I forgot to mention an apocryphal story regarding my East Texas cousins who were Piney

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-23 Thread Gill Edigar
I forgot to mention an apocryphal story regarding my East Texas cousins who were Piney Woods squirrel hunters in their youth and often came home with poison ivy lesions. My aunt used an old procedure that involved my cousins taking a certain number (which I don't remember) of ripe poison ivy seeds

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread vivbone
takes more exposure. The more you are exposed to it, the more sensitive you become.  You cannot develop an immunity. Vivian Loftin From: Bill Walden To: texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-iv

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-23 Thread vivbone
e it takes more exposure. The more you are exposed to it, the more sensitive you become.  You cannot develop an immunity. From: Charles Goldsmith To: Gill Edigar Cc: "Deal, Dwight" ; Cave Texas Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:13 PM Subject

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Bill Walden
When I was young I would break out horribly from poison ivy. At age 7 (1949) I underwent a series of shots for poison ivy. Following those shots I didn't break out from contact with poison Ivy. Today it is rare for me to get a bubble or two after contact with that plant. I believe that the shot

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Gill Edigar
A technical point or two: Reaction to Poison Ivy, etc, is a chemical contact condition, not an allergy. And I'm not sure that we can describe resistance to it as an 'immunity' since it's not a disease. I'm a little unsure about Tom's suggestion to use 'mineral spirits' which is a carcinogenic organ

RE: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-23 Thread Kurt L. Menking
I also have a small patch of it from TCR this weekend. For many years I was immune, but while clearing our campsite with a weed eater for the first TCR near Luling I was super exposed. I was in shorts, sandals, etc. I had no idea there was poison ivy around but came down with it all over. Af

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-22 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Easy Gill, poison oak grows on trees :) On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Gill Edigar wrote: > I've never had anybody successfully identify the difference between poison > ivy and poison oak for me. They look the same to my eyes. > --Ediger > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM, wrote: > >> >>

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-22 Thread Gill Edigar
I've never had anybody successfully identify the difference between poison ivy and poison oak for me. They look the same to my eyes. --Ediger On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:15 PM, wrote: > > Poison-ivy and Karst > > How cave related can you get?? (I'll do everything I can to get this site > back on

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread cvreeland
t; Original message > From: Sheryl Rieck > Date: 2013/10/22 16:31 (GMT-07:00) > To: Mark Minton > Cc: TexasCavers > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy > > > Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the >

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Tom Rogers
tools with alcohol also to remove poison ivy oil. I suspect my repeated exposures has built immunity. Tom --- Original Message --- From: "caverarch" Sent: October 22, 2013 6:12 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy I am a bit more sensitive to the v

[Texascavers] Poison-ivy and Karst

2013-10-22 Thread dirtdoc
Poison-ivy and Karst How cave related can you get?? (I'll do everything I can to get this site back on track) I grew up in New York and was terribly allergic to poison ivy as a youngster. Like, someone burned some brush with the vines in the pile, a half-mile away. Good Lord, was I ever in

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread caverarch
Texas Cavers Sent: Tue, Oct 22, 2013 5:40 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Poison ivy never bothered me for many years, but I learned that immunity can sometimes be lost by repeated exposure. So my advice to those who are currently immune is to avoid it as much as possible. George

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2013-10-22 Thread Louise Power
avers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy DONT INHALE THE SMOKE OF IT. Sent cellularly. -Don On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:47 PM, David wrote: Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal experience? Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Don Arburn
DONT INHALE THE SMOKE OF IT. Sent cellularly. -Don > On Oct 22, 2013, at 4:47 PM, David wrote: > > Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal > experience? > > Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ? > > 4 things that I feel make it worse are

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2013-10-22 Thread George Veni
Minton Cc: TexasCavers Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the other treatments. Sheryl Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant True SEM Antics, Inc. 832-632-2387 Home 361-205-1458 Cell On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Good things to know. Since I am not allergic, I haven't been aware of the other treatments. Sheryl Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant True SEM Antics, Inc. 832-632-2387 Home 361-205-1458 Cell On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Mark Minton wrote: > A related product is Tec

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Mark Minton
A related product is Tecnu , also commonly available at pharmacies. These products wash away the oily residue that causes the rash . They work best when used as soon as possible after exposure, but can help even the next day or

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread gary Dunham
Ichycoo red spray bottle dont know if they still make it On Oct 22, 2013 5:07 PM, "Charles Goldsmith" wrote: > I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on > me, always have been. The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it is > http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread DESSIE PIERCE
by telephone at 281-336-0201 or return the email and purge all copies of this message from your system. From: George D. Nincehelser To: David Cc: CaveTex Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy I seem to be immune

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Charles Goldsmith
I'm very allergic to it, I swear I can just look at a plant and it jump on me, always have been. The best stuff I've ever found to get rid of it is http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/walgreens-poison-ivy-wash/ID=prod6113607-product Of course that's a store brand, there are other products that are

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread George D. Nincehelser
I seem to be immune to poison ivy... so immune that I don't even know what poison ivy really looks like. Last year I was apparently standing in patch with shorts and sandals. It didn't bother me one bit. Nettles are another matter. Luckily a little bit of mud cures that for me. On Tue, Oct 22

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Sheryl Rieck
Sheryl Rieck, Senior Oracle Financials Consultant True SEM Antics, Inc. 832-632-2387 Home 361-205-1458 Cell On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Sheryl Rieck wrote: > I am not allergic and you don't get much whiter-skinned than I. I also > have never heard of any particular ethnic group immunity. Th

Re: [Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread Sheryl Rieck
I am not allergic and you don't get much whiter-skinned than I. I also have never heard of any particular ethnic group immunity. The pink goop helps, calamine lotion. You should avoid spreading by not scratching and then touching other parts of your body. It mostly has to run its course unless you

[Texascavers] Poison-ivy

2013-10-22 Thread David
Anybody know the best proven treatment for a poison-ivy rash from personal experience? Anybody have a good theory about how to boost immunity ? 4 things that I feel make it worse are scratching, sunlight, heat or hot water, and drying off with bath towels, all of which seem unavoidable. Is it tr