Re: [Texascavers] Updated The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers

2019-11-05 Thread mminton
I've been involved with organized caving since 1968, and there has always been way more than 9% female cavers involved. It seems unlikely to me that cavers have simply forgotten about their deceased female members. Perhaps female cavers dropped out and disappeared at a higher rate or have been

Re: [Texascavers] My Lake

2019-11-05 Thread jerryatkin
; >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Charles >> Loving >> Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 9:36 AM >> To

Re: [Texascavers] Updated The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers

2019-11-05 Thread Diana Tomchick
I would like to know, perhaps from someone that was around “way back when”, why there are only 8 female cavers listed in the Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers, out of a total of 88 names. That works out to 9.1% of the total population. As I wasn’t around back when a lot of these people passed on,

Re: [Texascavers] My Lake

2019-11-05 Thread Michael Gibbons
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Texascavers *On Behalf Of > *Charles > Loving > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 5, 2019 9:36 AM > *To:* Cavers Texas > *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] My Lake > > > > *The lake is on highway 337 between Lea

Re: [Texascavers] My Lake

2019-11-05 Thread bmorgan994
, November 5, 2019 9:36 AM To: Cavers Texas mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com> > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] My Lake The lake is on highway 337 between Leakey and Camp Wood on Pine Mt Road in front of my house. We have done all that. We have used dye and like I said dumped hundreds of ton

Re: [Texascavers] My Lake

2019-11-05 Thread Geary Schindel
area for you. Geary 210.326.1576 cell gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Charles Loving Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 9:36 AM To: Cavers Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] My Lake The lake is on highway 337 between Leakey and Camp Wood on Pine Mt Road in front

Re: [Texascavers] My Lake

2019-11-05 Thread Charles Loving
*The lake is on highway 337 between Leakey and Camp Wood on Pine Mt Road in front of my house. We have done all that. We have used dye and like I said dumped hundreds of tons of rock, caliche and cement into the lake and are still doing that today. Our newghbor is using his front end loaders and th

Re: [Texascavers] My Lake

2019-11-05 Thread Jon Cradit
Charlie, I don’t know where your lake front property is but if you have access to some Del Rio Clay you could have that hauled in and rolled out to seal the bottom. You may also try doing a small dye trace from your water feature to your well, if you have one, and determine if there is a hydrau

Re: [Texascavers] My Lake

2019-11-04 Thread Diana Tomchick
: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] My Lake EXTERNAL MAIL Not to sound crass but... Why not abandon the man-made lake and enjoy the amazing opportunity that your local geology has provided you. I can imagine future you stating "I used to have a 17 acre lake here but now I hav

Re: [Texascavers] My Lake

2019-11-04 Thread Andrew Gluesenkamp
Not to sound crass but... Why not abandon the man-made lake and enjoy the amazing opportunity that your local geology has provided you. I can imagine future you stating “I used to have a 17 acre lake here but now I have the only humanly-accessible entrance to the fabled Old Man Wisdom system!”

Re: [Texascavers] (no subject)

2019-11-04 Thread James Jasek
Precision Camera Sent from my iPhoneX > On Oct 29, 2019, at 10:11 AM, Charles Loving wrote: >  -- Charlie Loving <0.jpeg> ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/

Re: [Texascavers] [SWR CAVERS] Cave and karst news and announcements from NCKRI

2019-11-02 Thread George Veni
Jeff, Thanks for the offer. It won’t just be a excellent conference but an incredible location. I know that several people are talking about staying longer, and we worked out a deal with the conference hotel to extend their discounted rates for a few days before and after the conference dates f

Re: [Texascavers] request for Oren Tranbarger obit

2019-11-02 Thread Andrew Gluesenkamp
Do you have one for Nathan Parker? He passed away several years ago at age 40. He was active in the UTG and caving in TX and MX. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 1, 2019, at 2:39 PM, William R. Elliott wrote: > > Friends, > > I have searched and searched but could not find an obituary for Oren

Re: [Texascavers] More bad news (Bennie Pearson)

2019-10-31 Thread Jules Jenkins
👍 got it > On Oct 30, 2019, at 9:36 AM, mmin...@caver.net wrote: > That's a data-heavy way to convert .pub to .pdf! Your file was 1.5 MB, while Carl's pdf was only 250 KB. In any event, Carl posted his pdf, so everyone should be able to open it. Mark M > On 2019-10-29 21:16, Nigel wrote: >

Re: [Texascavers] Departed Caver Photo

2019-10-31 Thread Jules Jenkins
👍 > On Oct 30, 2019, at 10:24 AM, mmin...@caver.net wrote: > While looking through some old photos, I came across the attached photo of Lee-Jay Graves, Peter Strickland & Ernie Garza at the 2014 NSS Convention in Huntsville, Alabama taken by either Yvonne Droms or me. Mark Minton mmin...@cav

Re: [Texascavers] More bad news (Bennie Pearson)

2019-10-30 Thread mminton
That's a data-heavy way to convert .pub to .pdf! Your file was 1.5 MB, while Carl's pdf was only 250 KB. In any event, Carl posted his pdf, so everyone should be able to open it. Mark M On 2019-10-29 21:16, Nigel wrote: Jules, .pub is Microsoft Publisher file. I converted Bennie Pearson Obitu

Re: [Texascavers] More Bad News (Bennie Pearson)

2019-10-29 Thread Jules Jenkins
Oops, got it. Sorry > On Oct 29, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: >  Sorry, folks. Bad news is coming far too often recently. Please see attached file. ===Carl Kunath Virus-free. www.avast.com ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://tex

Re: [Texascavers] More bad news (Bennie Pearson)

2019-10-29 Thread Jules Jenkins
Sorry Carl, what’s a .pub file type? Can’t seem to open it. Maybe a Microsoft you could send in a Microsoft type format? Thanks Jules > On Oct 29, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: >  Sorry, folks. Bad news is coming far too often recently. Please see attached file. ===Carl Kunath

Re: [Texascavers] More bad news (Bennie Pearson)

2019-10-29 Thread William R. Elliott
Very sorry about Bennie Pearson's passing. Thank you for the obituary, Carl. Does anyone know his birthdate? Thanks, *William R. (Bill) Elliott* *speodes...@gmail.com * 573-291-5093 cell On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 2:17 PM PRESTON FORSYTHE wrote: > Helmets off to the Founder of UTG, in 1951. >

Re: [Texascavers] More bad news (Bennie Pearson)

2019-10-29 Thread PRESTON FORSYTHE
Helmets off to the Founder of UTG, in 1951. Thank you Carl for posting this. Preston Forsythe, KY Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 1:36 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: Sorry, folks.  Bad news is coming far too often recently.Please see attached file.===Carl Kunath | | Vir

Re: [Texascavers] (no subject)

2019-10-29 Thread Charles Goldsmith
Charlie, just an FYI, when you CC so many people on an email to texascavers.com, it flags it as possible spam, and while I try to catch them and allow, it's possible I'll miss a message (we get over 100 spam a week and I have to process them manually). If you want to make sure your email gets thro

Re: [Texascavers] John Fish death notice

2019-10-29 Thread Derek Ford
Thank you for notifying us of John's death, Bill. I'm very, very sorry to read the news. He was a tough caver, as you know, and one of the best of the PhD students that I had the privilege of advising. His thesis was a comprehensive study of the caves and karst in the Sierra de El Abra that was in

Re: [Texascavers] John Fish photo

2019-10-27 Thread Katherine Arens
free download at http://www.mexicancaves.org/ from the bulletins page (it’s #14) On Oct 27, 2019, at 4:08 PM, PRESTON FORSYTHE mailto:pns_...@bellsouth.net>> wrote: So how can we order a copy of his El Abra work? If in the NSS Huntsville library, which it should be, I can read when at the Nov

Re: [Texascavers] request for color photos

2019-10-27 Thread William R. Elliott
If you have any good color photos in a cave or that are unusual, yes. But we have tons of Bill Russell at TCR and stuff like that, Julie. When did you go from the Julie I knew to Jules? I'm pretty obtuse I guess, and I'm not in Austin. I like you by either name you know. Thanks, *William R. (Bil

Re: [Texascavers] request for color photos

2019-10-27 Thread Jules Jenkins
Do you want any William H Russell? > On Oct 26, 2019, at 10:45 AM, William R. Elliott wrote: >  Dear Texas Cavers, Do any of you have color images of the departed old caver friends listed below? If so, please email to me and I'll use them in the Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers. Thanks to A

Re: [Texascavers] John Fish photo

2019-10-27 Thread PRESTON FORSYTHE
So how can we order a copy of his El Abra work? If in the NSS Huntsville library, which it should be, I can read when at the Nov. BOG. There is volunteer work in the library that needs to be done. Preston Forsythe, Browder, KY Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 4:23 PM,

Re: [Texascavers] Memories of Devil's Sinkhole and John Fish

2019-10-26 Thread kfyi
Sometime in the mid to late sixties, John was kind enough to provide transportation for some cavers from the U.T. Grotto to Devil's Sinkhole.  He had some type of four wheel drive power wagon type of truck, maybe blue in color?  John sat up front with his girlfriend and the rest of us sat along

Re: [Texascavers] John Fish photo

2019-10-26 Thread Reddell, James R
From: Texascavers on behalf of speodes...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 1:21 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] John Fish photo Well, you are Charlie. William R. (Bill) Elliott Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Charles Loving

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-26 Thread Jocelyn Hooper
Thanks Heather. Jocie On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 9:20 AM Heather Tucek wrote: > When you find an issue with the website or your membership, please contact > either the webmaster or the membership chair before getting all angry about > it on the email chain. We can't fix things if we don't know they

Re: [Texascavers] John Fish photo

2019-10-26 Thread speodesmus
Well, you are Charlie. William R. (Bill) Elliott Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Charles Loving wrote: Another one of a kind. I guess we are all one of a kind? > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:01 AM Carl Kunath > wrote: > > > More sad news this morning. John Fish has die

Re: [Texascavers] John Fish photo

2019-10-26 Thread Charles Loving
Another one of a kind. I guess we are all one of a kind? On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:01 AM Carl Kunath wrote: > [image: John Fish 2015 TCR [Kunath photo]] > > More sad news this morning. John Fish has died. > > After many years with no contact, with some urging and assistance, John > came to th

Re: [Texascavers] Camping Gov Canyon Nov 3, 4

2019-10-26 Thread Leia L. Hill
Friends, In case you didn't get the CORRECTED email yesterday, I meant to say camping and caving the weekend of November 1, 2, and 3; NOT the 3, 4, and 5. Sorry for any confusion. Thank you Amy Morton for noticing and correcting this error I made. See y'all at Government Canyon for Caving and Ca

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-26 Thread Heather Tucek
When you find an issue with the website or your membership, please contact either the webmaster or the membership chair before getting all angry about it on the email chain. We can't fix things if we don't know they are broken, and considering the amount of people who have emailed me to mention pro

Re: [Texascavers] John Fish passed away last night

2019-10-25 Thread Jules Jenkins
Its been a hard, sad year for cavers. 😰. I only hope they’re All caving together somewhere! Jules > On Oct 25, 2019, at 10:32 PM, Bill Steele wrote: >  ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: h

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-25 Thread Diana Tomchick
Hey everyone, Re-register on the apparently spanking brand new web site (I like the new look!), I’ve just done that and once that’s complete, I’m betting I’ll have access to it online. I paid my dues online right before TCR, but never got around to registering an online account. Diana ***

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-25 Thread Crash Kennedy
I just tried your link, Bill, and got the "access denied" screen. So apparently even if you ARE paid you still can't get in! Jim On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:58 PM William R. Elliott wrote: > try this:https://www.cavetexas.org/texas-caver-magazines If you > aren't paid, it won't let you in. > <

Re: [Texascavers] Camping Gov Canyon Nov 3, 4

2019-10-25 Thread Leia L. Hill
My apologies. Thank you Amy for noticing and correcting. November 1, 2, and 3. Sorry guys. Leia L. Hill 830-660-5884 llhill1...@gmail.com Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:53 PM, Amy Morton wrote: > >  > So it's actually November 1, 2 &3... > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Gala

Re: [Texascavers] Camping Gov Canyon Nov 3, 4

2019-10-25 Thread Amy Morton
So it's actually November 1, 2 &3... Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android From: Texascavers on behalf of Leia L. Hill Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 3:51:49 PM To: Bexar Grotto ; texascavers@texascavers.

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-25 Thread Crash Kennedy
I tried Bill's second URL, and it didn't work either. So I tried to log in to the members page from the home page and it didn't let me. And it wouldn't let me reset my password, either. I KNOW I'm paid up because I paid again at TCR! Jim On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 3:13 PM Katherine Arens wrote:

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-25 Thread Katherine Arens
i just got in using my login from the old website. k On Oct 25, 2019, at 3:01 PM, Crash Kennedy mailto:cavercr...@gmail.com>> wrote: I just tried your link, Bill, and got the "access denied" screen. So apparently even if you ARE paid you still can't get in! Jim On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 2:58 PM

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-25 Thread William R. Elliott
Well, gosh darn and I'm gonna stuff peas up my nose. I had logged in earlier, and apparently it remembered me when I went to the TSA website again, and it let me try that ploy. The usual path to get there won't work either. I think it's through Members Area. There you can either try Read the Texa

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-25 Thread William R. Elliott
Folks, Apparently they still have some broken links on the TSA website. Meanwhile, if you are a paid TSA member, try this: https://www.cavetexas.org/texas-caver-magazines If you aren't paid, it won't let you in. Happy reading, *William R. (Bill) Elliott* *speodes...@gmail.com * 573-291-5093

Re: [Texascavers] Fall 2019 Texas Caver

2019-10-25 Thread mminton
When I tried to download the new Texas Caver, I discovered that my membership had expired. I tried to renew online, but the form will not work for me. I can fill out every line except the last one for Amount, which will not accept any input. I tried this on both Firefox and Chrome with the same

Re: [Texascavers] Presentations on 50th anniversary of Carta Valley S.U.C.K.S. at TCR

2019-10-22 Thread Carol W Russell
Loved the tango! Who says there is no glamour in caving? And also sacred traditions? Carol On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:19 AM Jay Jorden wrote: > Hi all - To commemorate the Carta Valley Society of Underground Cavers, > Karstologists and Speleologists' golden anniversary, you can view videos of

Re: [Texascavers] Whirlpool Sculpture

2019-10-22 Thread mminton
You can see the video of Don talking about his Whirlpool sculpture on YouTube . Mark Minton mmin...@caver.net On 2019-10-22 04:14, Logan wrote: Everyone please look at the link below to give you another, more favorable perspective of Ken Herman. He

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-22 Thread Jules Jenkins
My apologies, this is a lengthy response, please indulge me. 🙏✍️ I did shoot the photo and likely every photo taken with William in Blowing. In fact, almost a decade of photos of Blowing and numerous other caves in S Austin and Hays Co. that William and I worked in. I suspect the photo came from

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-22 Thread Logan
Everyone please look at the link below to give you another, more favorable perspective of Ken Herman. He had previously written another story about a mysterious stone sculpture on Whirlpool Cave Preserve. He contacted TCMA President John Brooks, and I

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-21 Thread Katherine Arens
Lighten up, people. Inform the public info person for the preserve — SHE got it wrong. And i have no idea where the picture came from (jules, have you donated your pix to TSS with documentation?) k On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:22 PM, mmin...@caver.net wrote: You need to know

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-21 Thread jerryatkin
Not just in journalism, but life in general. Being smart does not mean knowing everything about everything but rather the intelligence to know where to look for answers, and the ability to determine diamonds from manure. Jerry. Sent from my iPhone Jerry Atkinson > On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:21 PM,

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-21 Thread Amy Jasek
Totally agree! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 21, 2019, at 8:22 PM, mmin...@caver.net wrote: > > You need to know that the people you contact actually have the proper > information. That's no doubt not always obvious, but in this case, the UT > Grotto has been around for decades, and William Ru

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-21 Thread mminton
You need to know that the people you contact actually have the proper information. That's no doubt not always obvious, but in this case, the UT Grotto has been around for decades, and William Russell was a long-term member, so it seems like a no-brainer to contact someone there. Mark Minton m

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-21 Thread Amy Jasek
"That’s the cool thing about journalism. You don’t really have to know stuff. You only have to know how to contact people who know stuff." Jeez Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-21 Thread Jon Cradit
It sounds like a letter to the editor is due. Otherwise they will never know these issues. Jon -Original Message- From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Jules Jenkins Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 8:24 PM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-20 Thread Jules Jenkins
...And I saw no credit for the photo that I took. Jules > On Oct 20, 2019, at 5:10 PM, mmin...@caver.net wrote: > Interesting that the author of that piece on Blowing Sink Cave never contacted any cavers. He seems to be confused about the name of the cave versus the name of the preserve. The

Re: [Texascavers] Article on Blowing Sink in Today's Austin American Statesman

2019-10-20 Thread mminton
Interesting that the author of that piece on Blowing Sink Cave never contacted any cavers. He seems to be confused about the name of the cave versus the name of the preserve. The article twice stated that the original name of the cave system was the Blowing Sink Research Management Area. He mea

Re: [Texascavers] Scott Harden obituary - 2015 :

2019-10-13 Thread Linda Palit
ched photo . > > Jerry Atkinson. > > -Original Message- > From: William R. Elliott > To: texascavers > Sent: Fri, Oct 11, 2019 1:56 pm > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS > > Preston, Carol and all, > > Thanks for notifying me about departed

Re: [Texascavers] obituary for Scott Harden attached

2019-10-12 Thread James Jasek
There is another Caver that his sister passed away this year his name was Leonard Clark he was one of the major explores in natural Bridge caverns Sl He went to San Antonio or lived in San Antonio well I went to St. Mary’s University and we did a pretty good bit of caving down there in San Anton

Re: [Texascavers] Scott Harden obituary - 2015 :

2019-10-11 Thread George Veni
; www.nckri.org<http://www.nckri.org/> UIS address Titov trg 2 Postojna, 6230 Slovenia www.uis-speleo.org<http://www.uis-speleo.org/> From: Texascavers On Behalf Of Reddell, James R Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 19:22 To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers]

Re: [Texascavers] Scott Harden obituary - 2015 :

2019-10-11 Thread Reddell, James R
@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Scott Harden obituary - 2015 : Scott Harden made numerous important collections of cave invertebrates in Texas. Four species have been named for him: Mexiweckelia hardeni - amphipod From: Texascavers on behalf of Jerry

Re: [Texascavers] Scott Harden obituary - 2015 :

2019-10-11 Thread Reddell, James R
nal Message- From: William R. Elliott To: texascavers Sent: Fri, Oct 11, 2019 1:56 pm Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS Preston, Carol and all, Thanks for notifying me about departed cavers or, in one case, an epigrapher who worked in caves. I really can't do much with tha

Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS

2019-10-11 Thread William R. Elliott
Preston, Carol and all, Thanks for notifying me about departed cavers or, in one case, an epigrapher who worked in caves. I really can't do much with that unless you can send me a write-up, document, link, or image. I spend a lot of time researching dead cavers as it is, and some day I will give

Re: [Texascavers] New material on The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers

2019-10-11 Thread Carol W Russell
Thank you Bill, the work you're doing is a gift to all of us, especially the older ones. Carol On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:22 AM William R. Elliott wrote: > I forgot Scott Harden, of course. I knew him and was saddened by his loss. > I will try to search for his name soon. > > It is good to have

Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS

2019-10-11 Thread PRESTON FORSYTHE
Michael Coe, 90. Mayan codex, oldest western hemisphere book decoder, died.. "Book" found in a cave. Preston Forsythe Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 12:06 AM, Logan wrote: ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascave

Re: [Texascavers] New material on The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers

2019-10-11 Thread William R. Elliott
I forgot Scott Harden, of course. I knew him and was saddened by his loss. I will try to search for his name soon. It is good to have this web page because we tend to forget people after 5 or 10 years. They are not here to remind us any more. I must say that researching departed cavers has been e

Re: [Texascavers] New material on The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers

2019-10-11 Thread Reddell, James R
I don't see Scott Harden's name on your list. George Veni probably has information. James From: Texascavers on behalf of William R. Elliott Sent: Friday, October 11, 2019 10:39 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] New material on The Hall

Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS

2019-10-10 Thread Logan
Thanks Carol. Good article and photos. Logan On 10/9/2019 5:07 PM, Carol W Russell wrote: I'm one of the guilty who has posted non-cave things. But in throwing out magazines today, I ran across this article in the UT Exes mag _Alcalde,_ Sept/Oct 2019 issue, about Bill Stone's work, which might

Re: [Texascavers] Farewell to Lee White

2019-10-10 Thread Tim Stich
Thanks for posting that, Bill. I found out about Lee here on the list when he did the Natural Bridge Caverns climb. I'm very sorry to hear about his passing. On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 9:03 AM William R. Elliott wrote: > Bill Steele, > > Thanks for posting that about Lee White. Do you have a photo o

Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS

2019-10-09 Thread Carol W Russell
I'm one of the guilty who has posted non-cave things. But in throwing out magazines today, I ran across this article in the UT Exes mag *Alcalde,* Sept/Oct 2019 issue, about Bill Stone's work, which might be of interest, if it has not been mentioned before. https://medium.com/@TheAlcalde/a-longhor

Re: [Texascavers] Farewell to Lee White

2019-10-09 Thread William R. Elliott
Bill Steele, Thanks for posting that about Lee White. Do you have a photo of Lee that I could use in The Hall of Texas and Mexico Cavers? Sorry to hear about his death. *William R. (Bill) Elliott* *speodes...@gmail.com * 573-291-5093 cell On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 9:36 AM Bill Steele wrote: >

Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS

2019-10-08 Thread George Veni
Slovenia Original message From: Logan Date: 10/8/19 23:04 (GMT-07:00) To: texascavers@texascavers.com, Charles Goldsmith Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS Charles, thank you very much for providing the texascavers list for so long to a diverse group of people. I was

Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS

2019-10-08 Thread Logan
Charles, thank you very much for providing the texascavers list for so long to a diverse group of people. I was surprised that there are 355 members, because we usually hear from just a small portion of them/us. Your intent to let the list be self-moderating is appreciated, but large groups lik

Re: [Texascavers] Donation

2019-10-08 Thread Denise P
I can help you out - the TCMA appreciates your lovely art! Whether some place in central Texas or at TCR. -Denise From: Texascavers on behalf of Charles Loving Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 10:26 PM To: Cavers Texas Subject: [Texascavers] Donation I keep wan

Re: [Texascavers] Administrative BS

2019-10-08 Thread Jules Jenkins
THANK YOU, Charles. On Oct 8, 2019, at 9:18 AM, Charles Goldsmith wrote: Howdy folks, most of you know me, some may not, I'm Charles, and I run this list. Luckily, you don't have to hear from too often, but this is one of those times. Sadly, it's time for a change in how things are run. We

Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2019-10-08 Thread James Jasek
We plan on being at TCR but if we can’t make it we want our issue of the Texas Caver mailed to us you have our address thank you Sent from my iPhoneX > On Oct 8, 2019, at 11:28 AM, James Jasek wrote: > my dues have been paid in full for James Jasek and Mimi Jasek. We voted. Jim Sent from

Re: [Texascavers] The Texas Caver

2019-10-08 Thread James Jasek
my dues have been paid in full for James Jasek and Mimi Jasek. We voted. Jim Sent from my iPhoneX > On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:05 PM, Jessica Gordon wrote: >  Hi all, The next issue of The Texas Caver will be available soon. I plan to bring hard copies to TCR. If you are signed up to receive a

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican Bat

2019-10-07 Thread Mike Flannigan
Thanks for everybody who responded. Mike On 10/7/2019 11:00 AM, texascavers-requ...@texascavers.com wrote: Lack of a tail makes me think Leptonycteris, a nectar-feeding bat. But gawd, what a horrible photo. Jim ___ Texascavers mailing list | ht

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican Bat

2019-10-07 Thread Jules Jenkins
Not to disagree w/Jim but, don’t think it’s nectar bats. At BCI, Barbara and I rescued 25 nectar bats and their backs look nothing like that. Where are they getting nectar from, anyway? Just sayin’ Jules On Oct 6, 2019, at 6:43 PM, speodes...@gmail.com wrote: Lack of a tail hints at freetail

Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza Second Line

2019-10-07 Thread Logan
Sounds like great fun! On 10/4/2019 3:35 PM, Vivian Loftin wrote: We'll be sending Ernie off in high style at TCR this year. The Ernie Garza Memorial Band will be leading a short Second Line (New Orleans style funeral parade) in his honor. It will be right after dinner. So come prepared

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican Bat

2019-10-06 Thread Charles Loving
It could be a bat? Oldman Wisdom On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 6:44 PM wrote: > Lack of a tail hints at freetail but the head and ears say not. Bad photo, > no scale, no face photo = no certain i.d. > > William R. (Bill) Elliott > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 6, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Charles Loving wrot

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican Bat

2019-10-06 Thread speodesmus
Lack of a tail hints at freetail but the head and ears say not. Bad photo, no scale, no face photo = no certain i.d. William R. (Bill) Elliott Sent from my iPhone On Oct 6, 2019, at 6:16 PM, Charles Loving wrote: Looks like the bats that hang out behind the sign at a lodge here in Deer Corn.

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican Bat

2019-10-06 Thread Charles Loving
Looks like the bats that hang out behind the sign at a lodge here in Deer Corn. There are six or seven of them there just hanging out. Mexican Free Tails? On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 5:38 PM Mike Flannigan wrote: > > Wondering if any of you can take a stab at > identifying what kind of bat this is: >

Re: [Texascavers] Mexican Bat

2019-10-06 Thread Jim Kennedy
Lack of a tail makes me think Leptonycteris, a nectar-feeding bat. But gawd, what a horrible photo. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2019, at 6:38 PM, Mike Flannigan wrote: > > > Wondering if any of you can take a stab at > identifying what kind of bat this is: > > "Inside El Ro

Re: [Texascavers] TCMA Member's Meeting

2019-10-06 Thread jranzau
Cavers and TCMA members, this will be a meeting you don’t want to miss. We have several things to update the membership on such as new preserve managers, our Honey Creek Cave access agreement, our candidates for the board, oh and we’ve gone and done a thing you’ll really want to hear about!

Re: [Texascavers] Donation

2019-10-04 Thread Charles Loving
An idea. I may just leave the stuff at Ediger's. Finding the camp site is difficult and I can't drive at night. Have to go to Vancey for eye surgery this week. Seeing a specialist. Been to a near ophthalmologist and they want me to see this guy. Old eyes. Maybe they can fix them. Who knows. The thi

Re: [Texascavers] Donation

2019-10-04 Thread jerryatkin
The TSS would be honored to have your artwork, OMG. Sent from my iPhone Jerry Atkinson > On Oct 4, 2019, at 4:26 PM, Charles Loving wrote: > > I keep wanting to donate art to the outfit but never can seem to be at the > proper place to do it. I carry the art around in my truck but am never wh

Re: [Texascavers] Donation

2019-10-04 Thread Diana Tomchick
So come the day before (on Friday) and drop off your donations. Lots of people will be there that you can trust to give your artwork to as a donation. Diana ** Diana R. Tomchick Professor Departments of Biophysics and Biochemistry UT Southwestern M

Re: [Texascavers] Donation

2019-10-04 Thread Charles Loving
Problem is there is a wake I have to go to for Terry Plemons another old caver same day. Excuses, excuses On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 5:40 PM Jim Kennedy wrote: > Bring it to TCR! > > Crash > > Mobile email from my iPhone > > > On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Charles Loving wrote: > > > > I keep wan

Re: [Texascavers] Donation

2019-10-04 Thread Jim Kennedy
Bring it to TCR! Crash Mobile email from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Charles Loving wrote: > > I keep wanting to donate art to the outfit but never can seem to be at the > proper place to do it. I carry the art around in my truck but am never where > there are any cavers who coul

Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza Second Line

2019-10-04 Thread Andrew Gluesenkamp
Harmonica in hand! I don’t need no stinking charts. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:35 PM, Vivian Loftin wrote: > > We'll be sending Ernie off in high style at TCR this year. The Ernie > Garza Memorial Band will be leading a short Second Line (New Orleans style > funeral para

Re: [Texascavers] Climate

2019-10-04 Thread C Tiderman
Kudos Carol On Friday, October 4, 2019, 01:25:32 AM EDT, Charles Loving wrote: needs editing -- Charlie Loving___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texasc

Re: [Texascavers] Ernie Garza

2019-10-04 Thread William R. Elliott
Dear Drew, Thanks for your tribute to Ernie Garza, which I am sharing on the TexasCavers list. You can see a longer biography of Ernie at http://cavelife.info/hall/hall.htm I traveled with Ernie to the Texas Caver Reunion in 2018, and we had good discussions about caves, people, and books. I will

Re: [Texascavers] Climate

2019-10-04 Thread Carol W Russell
Charlie, brilliant and scary! If only this could be seen in higher places. Carol On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:27 AM Jay Jorden wrote: > Love this!!! > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 1:25 AM Charles Loving wrote: > >> needs editing >> >> -- >> Charlie Loving >> __

Re: [Texascavers] Climate

2019-10-04 Thread Jay Jorden
Love this!!! On Fri, Oct 4, 2019, 1:25 AM Charles Loving wrote: > needs editing > > -- > Charlie Loving > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texasc

Re: [Texascavers] TCR

2019-10-03 Thread James Jasek
N Sent from my iPhoneX > On Oct 3, 2019, at 11:58 AM, James Jasek wrote: >  Sent from my iPhoneX > On Oct 3, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Mimi Jasek wrote: > For those who might want to know, if all goes well tomorrow and next week, we should be at TCR, at least by sometime Saturday morn at the

Re: [Texascavers] Cavers’ Storytelling Contest

2019-10-03 Thread Charles Loving
Besides I can't stay up past ten PM. On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:56 PM Charles Loving wrote: > Can't make it have a wake to attend. > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:51 PM Bill Steele > wrote: > >> The DFW Grotto is happy to once again conduct a Caver Storytelling >> Contest at TCR. Last year it was a

Re: [Texascavers] Cavers’ Storytelling Contest

2019-10-03 Thread Charles Loving
Can't make it have a wake to attend. On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:51 PM Bill Steele wrote: > The DFW Grotto is happy to once again conduct a Caver Storytelling Contest > at TCR. Last year it was a big hit. Five minute limit. A panel of > impartial judges. Only one entry per caver. We’ll begin at mid

Re: [Texascavers] TCR

2019-10-03 Thread James Jasek
Sent from my iPhoneX > On Oct 3, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Mimi Jasek wrote: > For those who might want to know, if all goes well tomorrow and next week, we should be at TCR, at least by sometime Saturday morn at the latest. Jim had a facial skin cancer scare - Melanoma Stage 2 - but they got it

Re: [Texascavers] Cave News!

2019-10-01 Thread James Jasek
I Mimi and I are planning on coming to TCRV but I don’t know if I will be past this cancer thing and if I am and doing OK we will be there. Jim Sent from my iPhoneX > On Oct 1, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Jim Kennedy wrote: > Ladies and Gents, the Texas Cavers Reunion is almost upon us, 10-13 Octob

Re: [Texascavers] adios redux

2019-10-01 Thread Tim Stich
I just now used Bill's filter option in Gmail and I feel 100% better! On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 3:22 PM Nancy Weaver wrote: > turns out one needs to unsubscribe twice to make it happen so in the > meantime, am pleasantly surprised by a couple supportive posts. > what if we return this post to a ca

Re: [Texascavers] TCMA election is live

2019-10-01 Thread James Jasek
Greg I believe that I am a TCMA lifetime member and I have not received the ballot and would like to vote. Jamed Jasek Sent from my iPhoneX > On Oct 1, 2019, at 8:24 AM, Gregg Williams wrote: >  Please take a look at your inbox for your chance to vote in the 2020 TCMA Board of Directors el

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