Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB drive : mastering TinySB

2011-02-10 Thread rotho
Just in case some people would have overlooked this, a bug in the database has recently been fixed (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84931), and it makes a HUGE difference for those using TinySB with a big collection of music. AFAIC, I have approximately 1900 albums / 600 Gb of musi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problems Setting Up SQB Touch

2011-02-10 Thread toby10
I'm completely lost on your issue, it's just not making sense. I'll ask a third time: can you play an internet station on your Touch? When you go to My Music does it offer to switch you to your local SBS server? If yes, when you select SBS server it does not connect? Go to the www.MySqueezeBox

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Saved favorites are gone

2011-02-10 Thread toby10
oh6781;609878 Wrote: > Hi Toby 10: > > Thank you for the quick answer, I think that I am confused when I save > those > Favorites with my computer(SBS are activated) and MySB are both on and > I have no control as to where those favorites will be stored, is this > correct assumption? > Can I as

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread firedog
ben hudson;608632 Wrote: > That was it! Works fine when the touch isn't synchronized with any SB3. > Thanks a bunch for the help. That wasn't something I would have thought > to check. It will also happpen even if the hi-res is on a server and : a)you decode files at the server (and not the pla

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music really IS better sounding after changes

2011-02-10 Thread dsdreamer
magiccarpetride;609783 Wrote: > Hallelujah! > > It's so gratifying to read a comment like this one. It makes it all > worthwhile, despite all those claims that turning the screen off makes > no detectable difference. Many of us have noticed immediate increase in > blackness (actually, I will now

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Touch with USB drive : mastering TinySB

2011-02-10 Thread carib
MDB;609821 Wrote: > With much interest I read the opening post. For over half a year I've > been doubting if I should buy a SB-Touch or not. The setup I want is > the same like Jeans: a Touch fed by an external USB-disk. > I don't like the thought of energyconsuming NAS under my desk, even my >

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Album Art went poof!

2011-02-10 Thread themouse
thunderlips;608507 Wrote: > Add me to the list of those who have lost artwork when running tinysc > from an external USB drive. > > Hopefully we'll get a fix soon. Are the developers reading these user forums? Or should a bug report be filed at http://bugs.slimdevices.com/ to have a chance to s

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music really IS better sounding after changes

2011-02-10 Thread rgro
Stephen;609790 Wrote: > If I had an iPad, I would at least try the screen thing. I did/am. For several reasons, not debating the perceived incremental changes--or lack thereof---in sq, I'm kinda' liking the iPad/iPeng combo. We've essentially put the iPad on a stand in the same "home" position

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any Hardware/Memory Diagnostics available?

2011-02-10 Thread steve781
I may have some leads in the TinySB crashes I'm experiencing. To cause the problem all I need to do is navigate streams using the Find a City menu item. It doesn't happen right away, but usually within a day or two TinySB will crash (hang) and my SB Radio will lose the connection to the server. W

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any Hardware/Memory Diagnostics available?

2011-02-10 Thread JJZolx
Could be an excessive CPU use issue due to a bug, but it also could be a memory problem. Possibly from the Touch trying to process too large of a list. Do you only see that level of CPU usage after you've used 'Find a City'? What's the level if you _don't_ use it? -- JJZolx --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any Hardware/Memory Diagnostics available?

2011-02-10 Thread bpa
There seems to be another thread about this problem - the reboot seems to be caused by the watchdog timer expiring which should be a safety mechanism but it seems there is some sort of CPU loop with some city lists. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81207 There is a bug report f

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread lcrim
If you put the server elsewhere, the level of quality of parts as it relates to noise generated in the listening environment stops being an issue. I use an aging laptop w/ a music storage USB HDD and it runs XP. Its so old I had to add a USB 2.0 PCMCIA card. It is running on wired ethernet and li

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread aubuti
lcrim;610037 Wrote: > If you put the server elsewhere, the level of quality of parts as it > relates to noise generated in the listening environment stops being an > issue. I believe the person who posted was referring to digital noise in the ethernet transmission itself (-"Will that produce unne

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread magiccarpetride
aubuti;609895 Wrote: > mcr, re your questions about this pc. From the spec sheet at > newegg.com: > > 1) it has at least 4 USB ports on the back, so if your drive is USB, no > problem > > 2) if all it's doing is serving music I would think that CPU and 2GB > would be fine. 1GB may work, but why

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Hello, thanks for waiting. I just confirmed that my "24/48" DAC still magically plays the 24/96 files that I am sending it via Squeezebox, and I confirmed that this happens whether I send the files as FLAC (for native decoding) or as PCM (decoded on the server). In this mail, I am sending a fe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?

2011-02-10 Thread Stephen
Phil Leigh;577057 Wrote: > I agree "the truth is in the listening". I defy anyone to prove - or > even claim! - that they can hear a difference between a properly > working ethernet or Wlan connection. > > Curiously, if anything there is more of a chance of the ethernet > sounding worse due to s

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music really IS better sounding after changes

2011-02-10 Thread Stephen
I'm hesitant to spend $500 for just a remote, although it's certainly tempting. I just spent $1200 on a top-down computer build. I'm not crazy about the idea of an iPad cannibalizing that "investment." -- Stephen System: Squeezebox Touch (wired) * Audible Illusions pre * Eastern Electric amp *

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread aubuti
magiccarpetride;610058 Wrote: > P.S. The only thing I'm still not sure about is whether the supplied CPU > & 2 GB of RAM can deal with the task of doing the heavy lifting while > converting FLAC, WAV etc. to PCM on the fly, before streaming PCM to > the Touch? Fwiw, my MSI barebone (now discontin

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
... okay, it will just not let me post enough of the log here, it reads the file references as images and stops me from posting them here. What in particular are we looking for? I'll pick the right bits then. A few ones that strike me as relevant: [11-02-10 19:34:21.3728] Slim::Player::Transcodi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Music really IS better sounding after changes

2011-02-10 Thread rgro
Stephen;610067 Wrote: > I'm hesitant to spend $500 for just a remote, although it's certainly > tempting. I just spent $1200 on a top-down computer build. I'm not > crazy about the idea of an iPad cannibalizing that "investment." Don't blame you one bit. This is, of course, more of an indulgenc

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread magiccarpetride
aubuti;610069 Wrote: > Fwiw, my MSI barebone (now discontinued, but here's the link: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032) has > 2GB RAM and an Atom 230 and has no problem converting FLAC to PCM when > I experiment with that. I am pretty sure the Atom 230 is less powe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Album Art went poof!

2011-02-10 Thread themouse
I just tried the new firmware release 7.5.4.r9302 and did a full rescan of my USB hard disk and the bug is not fixed : not artwork at all showing (and the number of covers found by the scan is incorrect again). Luckily I did a backup of the .Squeezebox folder before upgrading, so I'll be able to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread aubuti
I'm not saying the Shuttle is particularly noisy. I've never heard one, but it's probably much less noisy than the average pc, because it's fanless and has a 2.5" HDD. But from the way you have described your critical listening (including concerns about "unnecessary noise and interference with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Album Art went poof!

2011-02-10 Thread themouse
If this can be of any help to any developer who would read this, I gave a look to the 'message' log file in the logs share of the Touch, and I found this message repeated as many times as the (incorrect) number of covers detected : Feb 10 19:58:35 squeezeplay: stack traceback: Feb 10 19:58:35 squ

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any Hardware/Memory Diagnostics available?

2011-02-10 Thread steve781
It's not easy to repro. It usually takes a day or two of uptime before the failure. Most of the time it happens when navigating the Internet Radio lists, but it has also happened when moving between favorites. It never happens when I go through the Touch UI, it always happens when using the SB Rad

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread magiccarpetride
aubuti;610082 Wrote: > I'm not saying the Shuttle is particularly noisy. I've never heard one, > but it's probably much less noisy than the average pc, because it's > fanless and has a 2.5" HDD. But from the way you have described your > critical listening (including concerns about "unnecessary n

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;610058 Wrote: > ...P.S. The only thing I'm still not sure about is whether the supplied > CPU & 2 GB of RAM can deal with the task of doing the heavy lifting > while converting FLAC, WAV etc. to PCM on the fly, before streaming PCM > to the Touch? Converting wav to pcm doesn't re

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;610092 Wrote: > (some very sensible stuff)... That is why we can definitely hear > improvements after applying Soundcheck's mods... Please stop stating this as fact - it isn't, it's just your opinion (to which you are perfectly entitled). "we" (whoever that is) definitely can't

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A DAC for the SB

2011-02-10 Thread jeraldrc
So received/configged the Touch last night. I do use balanced outs so the DACMagic is still engaged. I will get around to trying the built-in audio outs but haven't yet. Based on the following I KNOW it will sound better than the audio outs on the SB which was really pretty mediocre IMHO. I'll get

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A DAC for the SB

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
jeraldrc;610118 Wrote: > So received/configged the Touch last night. I do use balanced outs so > the DACMagic is still engaged. I will get around to trying the built-in > audio outs but haven't yet. Based on the following I KNOW it will sound > better than the audio outs on the SB which was reall

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A DAC for the SB

2011-02-10 Thread aubuti
jeraldrc;610118 Wrote: > I'll get the bad out first. Dislikes: 1) Don't like not being able to > lock the volume like the SB. (I hear there is a patch for this) 2) > Setting static IP appears to be a pain. Re (2), it is a pain compared to the IP3K players (SB2, SB3/Classic, Boom). The easiest wor

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread magiccarpetride
Phil Leigh;610106 Wrote: > Please stop stating this as fact - it isn't, it's just your opinion (to > which you are perfectly entitled). My opinion IS a fact, in fact. Phil Leigh;610106 Wrote: > "we" (whoever that is) definitely can't all hear the same thing. This is true. It was Heraclitus, I

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] A DAC for the SB

2011-02-10 Thread magiccarpetride
jeraldrc;608728 Wrote: > Folks, I'm jumpin' in the middle here but similar dialog. I have been > downloading 24/96 files from HDTracks and just realized they are being > output at 48khz by Squeezebox to my DAC. I read the Touch will output > 96k via the coax jack. Is that true? I'm an aerospace e

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
magiccarpetride;610130 Wrote: > > Please try to realize that people do have a life. Not everyone is in > the exact same position that you are in, to have plenty of free time on > their hands with nothing better to do but piss their days away measuring > some inane shit. For what it's worth, I h

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread Howard Turkster
BTW, it looks like the Shuttle XS35-704 model is back up to $290 at Newegg, but last check Amazon still had it at $270 shipped. -- Howard Turkster Howard Turkster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] controlling both ways PC-SB

2011-02-10 Thread HARJAC
OK so now I'm thinking of using something else to control the SB Touch. Any suggestions ? Also Any idea why connecting the SB with a coax to my Coax swicthbox it freezes that switchbox ? No such problem with any of the other 4 connected coax. Using the same cables for all devices. Thanks Haro

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Tom186;610068 Wrote: > ... okay, it will just not let me post enough of the log here, it reads > the file references as images and stops me from posting them here. > > What in particular are we looking for? I'll pick the right bits then. > > A few ones that strike me as relevant: > [11-02-10 19

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Instead of pasting the log into text inside a message, just upload the whole server.log file as an attachment to a message... that gets rid of the size restrictions and "smileys"... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] controlling both ways PC-SB

2011-02-10 Thread garym
HARJAC;610145 Wrote: > OK so now I'm thinking of using something else to control the SB Touch. > Any suggestions ? > > Also Any idea why connecting the SB with a coax to my Coax swicthbox it > freezes that switchbox ? > > No such problem with any of the other 4 connected coax. > Using the same

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread chill
magiccarpetride;610130 Wrote: > > OK, so what the fuck ARE you saying then? magiccarpetride;610130 Wrote: > > Please try to realize that people do have a life. Not everyone is in > the exact same position that you are in, to have plenty of free time on > their hands with nothing better to do

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Hi Phil, yes, I tried both - FLAC streaming and PCM streaming. Effect is the same, in both cases my 24/48 DAC happily plays a file that should be 24/96. I change the PCM/FLAC settings in Files Types. No direct editing of the sox command line. Double-checked that the same problem occurs with a fr

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Tom186;610167 Wrote: > Hi Phil, > > yes, I tried both - FLAC streaming and PCM streaming. Effect is the > same, in both cases my 24/48 DAC happily plays a file that should be > 24/96. > > I change the PCM/FLAC settings in Files Types. No direct editing of the > sox parameter line. Double-checke

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Phil, sounds like good news! There is no sox.exe running. What I do find is a process called "flac.exe", and I do not know what it is, but hey. Still, what makes me sceptical here is that I already tested whether rDAC Toslink Optical takes an 88.2 or 96 signal when generated my MacBook. It does

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Stephen;610061 Wrote: > Any suggestion for RFI problems? I unplug my Ethernet cable from Touch > to router and the noise out of my speakers stops. Of course, it's not a > constant issue. Sorry - what noise? Are you using the analogue outputs of the Touch? I would suggest ferrite clamps at the t

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Tom186;610182 Wrote: > Phil, > > sounds like good news! There is no sox.exe running. What I do find is a > process called "flac.exe", and I do not know what it is, but hey. > > Still, what makes me sceptical here is that I already tested whether > rDAC Toslink Optical takes an 88.2 or 96 signal

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?

2011-02-10 Thread Stephen
Static-y sizzle. Yes, analog outs. Through research online, I've come to understand that wireless routers can introduce noise issues with stereo systems, ham radio etc. I also seemed to have an issue with Touch in wifi mode when it was next to my amplifier, which is tube-based. (I moved it aw

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?

2011-02-10 Thread praganj
Stephen;610061 Wrote: > Any suggestion for RFI problems? I unplug my Ethernet cable from Touch > to router and the noise out of my speakers stops. Of course, it's not a > constant issue. You are probably getting some noise (switched power supply ?) from the router throug the screen of the ethern

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Wireless vs Ethernet. Any sound quality differences?

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Stephen;610188 Wrote: > Static-y sizzle. > > Yes, analog outs. > > Through research online, I've come to understand that wireless routers > can introduce noise issues with stereo systems, ham radio etc. > > I also seemed to have an issue with Touch in wifi mode when it was next > to my ampli

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Phil, yes, same files. Okay, what I am doing now, I have taken my SBT up to my PC and connected it to the SPDIF and optical input of my Soundblaster X-Fi. This reads 24/96 and should have SOME way to display what my SBT is actually outputting while playing these hi res files, right? Will report

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread SteveEast
Looking at the manual (http://www.arcam.co.uk/_ugc/file/rDac_ManML.pdf) for the rDac it gives the following for supported sample rates: USB 32kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz Optical 44.1kHz, 48kHz Coaxial 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz Steve. -- SteveEast Home: 3*SB3

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Steve, thank you - I was aware of this restriction, which is the reason for my inquiry here. For some reason, though, my rDAC is playing 88.2 and 96 files through its optical input although it should not do so. Okay, I finished my measurements using my PC soundcard. For testing purposes, I have

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread JohnSwenson
The TOSLINK receiver modules don't have very high bandwidth which can make them problematical for higher rates. The limitation is probably of the form: it may not work if you use long cheap optical cables with poorly polished connectors". In your situation it could just be that the transmitter i

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] My Album Art went poof!

2011-02-10 Thread 808htfan
808htfan;608456 Wrote: > Just thought I'd add that I just noticed after upgrading to 7.5.3 and > doing a complete rescan (deleted .squeezebox folder) my Touch using > TinySBS and a USB HDD no longer shows artwork for any mp3 files. I > have embedded art (500 x 500 or smaller, jpg) in all full al

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR blaster and Touch

2011-02-10 Thread ericj
I finally pulled the trigger on a SB touch, but much to my chagrin, found out that it does not support RAW codes for IRBlaster.I assume that this is still the case, and that it will remain so Sadly, the Touch will go back. Thanks. -- ericj ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] connected my Touch to SBS via ethernet for the first time (wow!)

2011-02-10 Thread KMorgan
Phil In the 2 years I've been visiting this forum I've come to regard your's as the 100% voice of reason. Keep it up. K -- KMorgan - Sorry, can't spare enough hours today for that 5 min job on the computer. -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Problems Setting Up SQB Touch

2011-02-10 Thread soulster
toby10;609939 Wrote: > I'm completely lost on your issue, it's just not making sense. > > I'll ask a third time: can you play an internet station on your > Touch? > > When you go to My Music does it offer to switch you to your local SBS > server? > If yes, when you select SBS server it does no