Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2011-01-15 Thread Mnyb
If anyone followed the bug on this, you migth have noticed that I had some problems lately. This was caused by a problem with the database , I have to do an analyse; with an sqlite3 tool to fix it. SBS is suposed to this every scan but it failed for some reason in 7.6 beta . Now it's working ag

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2011-01-15 Thread marcot
I have the same setup SBTouch and Qnap TS-210 and the same kind of problem, but mine is with normal 16@44.1 files. Now it seems to have gone. I went to the advanced-performance tab of Squeezebox Server and did as follows: 1. disable library statistics 2. choose "resizing" instead of "resampling"

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-18 Thread TerryS
JohnSwenson;583803 Wrote: > It PROBABLY has nothing to do with YOUR signal strength but everything > to do with the signal strength of an interfering signal. By changing > the antenna configuration you are decreasing interference from some > other source. And its not just at the Touch. The router

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-18 Thread JohnSwenson
TerryS;583727 Wrote: > I was amazed at how much difference it made in the stutter problem, even > though it shows no change in the signal strength or network test > results. It is possible that my stutter problem has been completely > eliminated. Time will tell. > > Terry It PROBABLY has noth

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-18 Thread TerryS
guidof;583712 Wrote: > Terry: > > As mentioned in a prior post, re-orienting my router's antenna did cure > the stutter on my SBTouch. You may have a similar problem, in spite of > what the signal strength says. I would further experiment with fine > tuning the WI-Fi before looking for other pos

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-18 Thread guidof
TerryS;583696 Wrote: > One other experiment I tried: > > I played around with the orientation of the Wi-Fi antennas on my > wireless router. This seemed to have a very large impact on the > start-up stutter. > Terry Terry: As mentioned in a prior post, re-orienting my router's antenna did

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-18 Thread TerryS
One other experiment I tried: I played around with the orientation of the Wi-Fi antennas on my wireless router. This seemed to have a very large impact on the start-up stutter. If I placed the antennas horizontal (facing away from each other) the stutter was much worse, happening close to 50%

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-16 Thread TerryS
I tried some experiments today: First, a recap: My system is a NAS (QNAP TS-110) hosting the squeezebox server R7.5.1 with a Touch also running 7.5.1 I have a wireless connection from the Touch to the router and a wired ethernet connection from the router to the NAS. With this configuration I som

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread Mnyb
The CPU load is interesting it always hit 100% when cuing up an album. But it stays at 100% a bit longer with 24/96 ? This is even when I don't have the web-UI open . But on the other hand I used my controller to choose a tune for my Touch both are squeezeplay devices so both need images to refr

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread RadioClash
souwalker;582933 Wrote: > Wow... > > I am using a QNAP TS210 and was contemplating bying some 96/24 files > from HDtrack's site and after reading this thread, I am abit > concerned. > > Rgds It's an annoying problem for sure, but at the same time, the hi rez files through the Touch sound absol

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread TerryS
mdm;583111 Wrote: > Hello, > > I've got the same issue with PCM playback... every first track has a > short pause in the beginning. I looked through squeezebox.pm and saw > that $outputThreshold set to "0", so providing I would change it should > I somehow force the Touch to accept this new valu

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread mdm
Hello, I've got the same issue with PCM playback... every first track has a short pause in the beginning. I looked through squeezebox.pm and saw that $outputThreshold set to "0", so providing I would change it should I somehow force the Touch to accept this new value - reboot or something? Regar

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread TerryS
ralphpnj;582935 Wrote: > There's no need for concern. The tracks will play but you may experience > some rebuffering at the very start of the first track and - now this is > important: after that the remainder of the first track and all the > remaining tracks will play fine, as in no more rebuffe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread TerryS
Soundman;582993 Wrote: > You may give it another try with a setting of 100 (= 1/10th of a second) > or even above. I tried 100 the other night, but it doesn't work at all at that setting. No music comes out at all. I waited over 60 seconds. The same at a setting of 50. 40 seemed to be the hi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb;583001 Wrote: > 7.5.0 or 7.5.1 or 7.5.2 > > TRy 7.5.2 if you haven't I can not really recomend 7.6 unless you like > to tinker and experiment :) Sorry I forgot that information: Version: 7.5.2 - r31264 @ Sun Aug 29 02:04:16 PDT 2010 Info on players: Player Model: Squeezebox Touch Firmwa

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj;582994 Wrote: > Maybe so, however I experience this problem and my setup is also > completely wired: > > Operating system: Windows 7 - EN - cp1252 > Platform Architecture: 586 > Perl Version: 5.10.0 - MSWin32-x86-multi-thread > MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-nt > Total Players Recogniz

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread Soundman
TerryS;582428 Wrote: > I finally got WinSPC to work for me and located the Squeezebox.pm > I tried several settings, going as high as 40: > > # Threshold the output buffer for high sample-rate flac. > if ( $track ) { > if ( $track->samplerate() && $track->samplerate() >= 88200 ) { >

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb;582987 Wrote: > Not always I don't have this problem at all anymore since the original > bug got fixed, suspect it's partly dependent on the setup. > > My case all wired x86 linux server. Maybe so, however I experience this problem and my setup is also completely wired: Operating system:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-15 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj;582935 Wrote: > There's no need for concern. The tracks will play but you may experience > some rebuffering at the very start of the first track and - now this is > important: after that the remainder of the first track and all the > remaining tracks will play fine, as in no more rebuffe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-14 Thread ralphpnj
souwalker;582933 Wrote: > Wow... > > I am using a QNAP TS210 and was contemplating bying some 96/24 files > from HDtrack's site and after reading this thread, I am abit > concerned. > > Rgds There's no need for concern. The tracks will play but you may experience some rebuffering at the very s

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-14 Thread souwalker
Wow... I am using a QNAP TS210 and was contemplating bying some 96/24 files from HDtrack's site and after reading this thread, I am abit concerned. Rgds -- souwalker souwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/mem

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-13 Thread toby10
TerryS;582525 Wrote: > . > I may try moving the server to my desktop PC as an experiment, but even > if it worked, I would not leave it that way. I went with the Squeezebox > server on NAS setup specifically because I did not want to host the > server on my computer. I like the NAS solu

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-13 Thread TerryS
If it is something to do with the NAS, then it must be an intermittent issue. Most of the time, things work perfectly. But maybe one time out of ten or so, it does the re-buffering at startup. It never has a problem after the initial startup of the album. I noticed last night that when I selec

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-13 Thread toby10
TerryS, Try installing SBS on a full featured computer (PC or Mac), move a couple of FLAC folders over, and see if those same files stutter. This will help determine if the issue is your QNAP NAS. -- toby10 toby10's Profi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-12 Thread RadioClash
Hi Terry I think it is an issue with the QNAP server not having the 'horsepower' to decompress the hi rez FLAC files. When I was using SqueezeCenter installed on my QNAP TS-210 to decode the 24-96 FLACs, I was getting the stuttering. When I use the SqueezeCenter installed on my PC to decode the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-12 Thread TerryS
I finally got WinSPC to work for me and located the Squeezebox.pm I tried several settings, going as high as 40: # Threshold the output buffer for high sample-rate flac. if ( $track ) { if ( $track->samplerate() && $track->samplerate() >= 88200 ) { $outputThreshold

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-12 Thread TerryS
Soundman;582276 Wrote: > When you open WinSPC you probably get into the directory of your music. > Click on the arrow at the top of the directory. You click several times > until you're in the root directory. Then you click "usr" then > "squeezecenter" and so on, until you are in the "Player" di

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-12 Thread Soundman
TerryS;582094 Wrote: > Well, I installed WinSPC but never could get it to connect to my NAS. > Then I realized I don't even know how to browse for files on the NAS. > I can browse to the music directory where all of my music files are > stored, but I can't find the Squeezebox Server files anywh

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-11 Thread TerryS
Well, I installed WinSPC but never could get it to connect to my NAS. Then I realized I don't even know how to browse for files on the NAS. I can browse to the music directory where all of my music files are stored, but I can't find the Squeezebox Server files anywhere. I have much to learn abo

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-08 Thread TerryS
Soundman;581485 Wrote: > No reason to be afraid at all... Use WinSPC or a similar program and > edit the file (Path: /usr/squeezecenter/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm) You > can change the value of $outputThreshold (now is 20) and try different > higher values. Thanks, I'll look into WinSPC and give

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-08 Thread Mnyb
I don't have this problem since I wired my Touch , just a data point . I also run 7.6 beta ? maybe the fix is in that release. My server is also wired an 1,2GHz via-epia x86 mobo so not superfast,but not glacially slow as an old NAS. Btw don't use the 7.6 beta if your are not prepared for some in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-08 Thread Soundman
TerryS;581384 Wrote: > I'm almost afraid to ask > How do I change the $outputThreshold > > Terry No reason to be afraid at all... Use WinSPC or a similar program and edit the file (Path: /usr/squeezecenter/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm) You can change the value of $outputThreshold (now is

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-07 Thread TerryS
Soundman;581340 Wrote: > It was this: > > You can play around with "$outputThreshold" > > # Threshold the output buffer for high sample-rate flac. > if ( $track ) { > if ( $track->samplerate() && $track->samplerate() >= > 88200 ) { > $

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-07 Thread Soundman
JohnSwenson;581184 Wrote: > > This was all tweaked and constants were worked out for 16/44.1, for > 24/96 they don't always work. For future releases I think the > developers are working on a way to change those constants depending on > the sample rate being used. Several months ago I remember A

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-07 Thread TerryS
I went to try a couple of things last night, but strangely, the stutter was gone most of the time. Showed up maybe 1 out of 10 times. Nothing has changed since the night before, when it was having the problem about half the time. I agree with the comment that the problem is not that big of a d

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-06 Thread JohnSwenson
ralphpnj;581163 Wrote: > I encounter exactly the same issue when playing 24/96 files, i.e. the > file starts playing, stops to re-buffer and then continues playing just > fine. My Touch uses a wired connection so I know that it's not a > wireless network issue. I believe that this behavior is a r

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-06 Thread ralphpnj
I encounter exactly the same issue when playing 24/96 files, i.e. the file starts playing, stops to re-buffer and then continues playing just fine. My Touch uses a wired connection so I know that it's not a wireless network issue. I believe that this behavior is a result of the Touch's internal bu

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-06 Thread guidof
I had a similar problem at one point. It was easily solved by rotating the router antenna in a vertical plane so that it points down (my router is upstairs, the listening room downstairs). Never had another re-buffering after that with any resolution file. Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Mara

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Stutter at startup on 24/96 FLAC

2010-10-05 Thread Mnyb
Try this 1, wire the touch to the router (for test only, listen trough headphones for example, if you dont happpen to have a long cat5 cable around). 2, Try with the server installed on a computer. 3, Wired touch and server running on a computer. You should not disable flac with such tiny cpu