Recently I played this MP3 in Starpage. It works perfectly without any plugin
or addon in Abrowser 23.
https://startpage.com/eng/futuretense.mp3
It seems almost everyone here still don't fully understand the situation.
I'll try to clarify.
Firefox (Abrowser) since recently can play some patent-encumbered formats.
This includes H.264 encoded videos. For example, it is able to play the MP4
videos of Youtube. Try it and you'll see
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-enable-mp3-support-html5-abrowser#comment-34377
There's nothing inherently wrong with supporting patented formats (though in
practice, I'm guessing Firefox Mobile ends up using nonfree software for the
purpose), but it could be useful strategic pressure to not support certain
formats.
Please don't feed the trollS
This will cause a severe crisis in the area of high-tech.
As a result, this country will be the LOSER in the area of high-tech.
Happy ending, idiocy punished.
On 10/05/13 17:08, aaz...@mail.ru wrote:
Why? Are you think my country will be infected?
I think if software patents really such bad thing for the Society,
then countries without software patents will be have significant
competitive advantages.
If your society go mad and saw off the bough on
El 10/05/13 17:38, tegskywal...@hotmail.com escribió:
Chromium uses FFMPEG and I really like how it gives you a choice
between royalty free only (chromium-codecs-ffmpeg) or not
(chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra):
http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise-updates/chromium-browser
Giving people
If even high-tech analog of wheel can be patented, then abandoning of MP3(and
others patented formats) will not make even slight difference.
Why assume that? You don't say that a huge giant dies just because its little
toe has been crushed.
Is high tech is just a little finger?
Strangely, it seemed to me that ya are not living in the Stone Age.(sarcasm)
No, but individual people aren't high tech (as you put it). Combined,
they're about as important to the giant as the giant's little toe.
Any society is composed of individuals. If the many of individuals harmed,
then this is harm to the Society.
And I think you don't understand the seriousness of the consequences for the
economy, if the small IT-business will be strangled.
Why? Are you think my country will be infected?
I think if software patents really such bad thing for the Society, then
countries without software patents will be have significant competitive
advantages.
If your society go mad and saw off the bough on which it is sitting, then it
is not
Software patents don't destroy nations. They destroy individuals, especially
individuals who run small businesses. In addition, any programmer who doesn't
work for a large corporation which can handle the patent problems is at risk
thousands of times for each program. Most individuals simply
The mobile version of Firefox and upcoming versions will play H264/AAC/MP3,
but will use the system codecs if installed. Since Firefox does not bundle
the codecs, they should be fine right? Rumor is the GNU/Linux versions will
use Gstreamer's plugins for H264 playback and the Windows
Just imagine dominoes standing in a row. The Society push first domino and
started a chain reaction. If something will go wrong, then the Society may
remove bad dominoes and stop chain reaction. Regardless of the length of
the chain. But if the chain reaction continues, it means that the
But how about royalty-free patents?
El 08/05/13 00:42, aaz...@mail.ru escribió:
help me directly because it creates critical mass towards their cause.
I think it is very strange method to solve the problem.
For example, if onpon4 have problem with software patents, this is
because Society of his/her country decided to use
If one million ants would confront you, you would not have chance.
Yes. But it is very different case. In this case it will be most likely war
between anthills. And some anthills have nuclear weapon.
El 08/05/13 01:29, aaz...@mail.ru escribió:
If one million ants would confront you, you would not have chance.
Yes. But it is very different case. In this case it will be most
likely war between anthills. And some anthills have nuclear weapon.
It is not that way. The powerful have fear of the
For example, if onpon4 have problem with software patents, this is because
Society of his/her country decided to use software patents.
You're over-simplifying this. The United States didn't get software patents
out of some decision from society. That would be absurd, because any
I think it was a court ruling that decided that software ideas can be
patented.
Maybe. But even in this case, it was approved by the Society. Who gave judges
power to make this decision?
The Society. And if judges really will go against interest of the Society,
they would be fired. Or even
Maybe. But even in this case, it was approved by the Society. Who gave
judges power to make this decision?
The Society.
Oh come on, that's way to simple. My Grandma is part of the society, so I
think she's the origin of those problems?
It's simply wrong to say that the society gives power
1.Then why Uzbl support mp3?
2.Is patent on mp3 decoding not expired yet?
Other browsers use external multimedia frameworks such as GStreamer. Mozilla
based browsers do not use external media frameworks, so in order to play back
MP3 format Mozilla would need a patent license.
Nighly builds of Firefox should support 264 aac and mp3.
In some countries you cannot distribute this version because of Software
patents.
For SoundCloud I use Midori (a free browser with Apple WebKit) with user
agent set to iPad. With other user agent flash is required.
Midori doesn't use Apple WebKit. It uses WebKitGTK+ (which is similar but
not the same).
Other browsers use external multimedia frameworks such as GStreamer.
And Abrowser too.
My Abrowser compiled with --enable-gstreamer option.
I think we confuse two different problem.
http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/test.html
MP3 playing just fine, but is not what I want.
I need mp3 support in HTML5.
And html5test.com not see any mp3 support.
I'm guessing it's a bug then.
Oh, really?
I tried nighly builds, Aurora, Firefox Beta. But mp3 not work in HTML5.
Recent versions of Firefox (Abrowser) are able to play some patent encumbered
formats. The current Trisquel's version of Abrowser also plays some patent
encumbered formats. Abrowser does this using GStreamer.
At the same time, Abrowser doesn't play other patent encumbered formats.
It's
Patent encumbered formats are bad for the WWW
I don`t care. In my country no such thing as software patent.
And I think really reason is greediness of Mozilla.
How commercial company, Mozilla think about money.
What are you talking about?
And they don't make a penny from somebody using oggs or flacs.
Yes. But on other hand, Mozilla should not pay for using mp3-related patents.
That is a saving of money.
I don`t care. In my country no such thing as software patent.
This seems like a rather shortsighted view of things. Most people don't live
in a vacuum and things that are published online are usually available to
everyone all over the world. Therefore, someone's decision of what format to
El 07/05/13 10:51, ja...@bluehome.net escribió:
I don`t care. In my country no such thing as software patent.
This seems like a rather shortsighted view of things. Most people
don't live in a vacuum and things that are published online are
usually available to everyone all over the world.
1+
It's a bad idea to pay the Dane-geld.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dane-geld
In the parts of the world that do have software patents, using patented
formats is a serious problem.
I know about it.
Not caring about software patents because you`re lucky enough to live in a
country that doesn`t have them is kind of selfish.
Уes, it is egoism. But it is rational egoism.
It's almost sure that you expect other people not to have your own rational
egoism.
I just don`t see any benefits to worry about it.
In this case, you are not concerned. But someday your own position will
depend on someone else having a sense of morality, and it will be a bad day
when you
It`s almost sure that you expect other people not to have your own rational
egoism
You are wrong. If all people behave like me, then the world would be better
place, IMHO.
But someday your own position will depend ...
Maybe. But even if today I will behave the way you want, and there is no
Our web browser without a name (Abrowser, a Firefox derivative that does not
recommend non-free software) now comes with shiny new features, like full
html5 video support (webm, h264 and other formats) that allow to use sites
like Youtube without a flash plugin.
How would the world be a better place if nobody put any thought in how their
actions might affect others? Just look at pollution, for example. Many
pollution incidents we have are because some company dumped its wastes in a
river or lake or ocean somewhere with no regard for what could
El 07/05/13 14:35, onp...@gmail.com escribió:
How would the world be a better place if nobody put any thought in how
their actions might affect others? Just look at pollution, for
example. Many pollution incidents we have are because some company
dumped its wastes in a river or lake or ocean
No, you've got it backwards. I was saying that the act of complaining that
Firefox *isn't* supporting a patented format is sort of like complaining that
some business *isn't* doing business with the water-polluting company. That
is, that company is causing you a minor practical inconvenience
El 07/05/13 19:07, onp...@gmail.com escribió:
No, you've got it backwards. I was saying that the act of complaining
that Firefox *isn't* supporting a patented format is sort of like
complaining that some business *isn't* doing business with the
water-polluting company. That is, that company is
You mean to disrupt activism or to disrupt the status quo?
Activism and progress toward change.
How would the world be a better place if nobody put any thought in how their
actions might affect others?
You are misunderstood my position. I think about how my behavior will affect
other people.
Just look at it from a different point of view. All countries have problems.
My country have
El 07/05/13 22:06, aaz...@mail.ru escribió:
This means that your Society has enough power to solve their own
problems.
It`s like asking a weak person to help strongman.
The only way to change my mind, prove that the software patents is
also my problem and you really need my help.
I also
help me directly because it creates critical mass towards their cause.
I think it is very strange method to solve the problem.
For example, if onpon4 have problem with software patents, this is because
Society of his/her country decided to use software patents. It mean, that USA
have a lot
For example, Uzbl have mp3 support in html5.
But I prefer Abrowser.
Abrowser only supports royalty free formats in HTML5 such as Vorbis, Opus,
Theora and VP8.
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