[TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]Kevin Deegan wrote: No dave you are an unbeliever in God's word You are not of God. You will not enter in because of UNBELIEF. DAVEH: Until I heard Steve Brown's broadcast, I believed Paul wrote Hebrews. Now some TTers are in agreement with SB and are

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky? inerrant Bible

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
No the material Blaine posted has to do with a heretic taking a copy and changing the words in that copy sometimes 10 different times and different handwritings.I can take a copy of your mortgage and change it 100 times what does that have to do with the terms of your mortgage CONTRACT?Dave [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky? inerrant Bible

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
The mss from the Recieved or Majority text do not have a common ancestor. They were found in every part of the globe. Suppose you told 1000 people a story, which they separately then repeated to a second party.Who then repeated to a third party and so on. The TRANSMISSUION of the scriptures was

Re: [TruthTalk] Inerrant Bible

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
2 Sam 22:27 With the pure thou wilt show thyself pure; and with the froward thou wilt show thyself unsavory.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Deegan wrote: DAVEH: Thank you for pointing that out, Kevin. QuestionWhy do you think God let those errant chapter headings be placed in his

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
DAVEH: I respectfully disagree, Kevin. As I mentioned before, I believe God's word as far as it is translated correctly. Apparently, you share a somewhat similar belief, since you do not believe the headers were part of the original text. You believe they were added to God's word, and are possibly

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Very well said Judy Amen!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]Kevin Deegan wrote: No dave you are an unbeliever in God's word You are not of God. You will not enter in because of UNBELIEF. DAVEH: Until I heard Steve Brown's broadcast, I believed Paul wrote Hebrews.

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Wm. Taylor
Terry wrote, "Where did you get the goofy idea that we can reproove or rebuke in love? Is something like that hidden so deep in the Bible that SOME Christians cannot see it?" Yeah, Terry, if it is there, it must be deeply imbedded. I didn't know what to do with this one, so I leftit alone.

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Terry Clifton
DAVEH: Until I heard Steve Brown's broadcast, I believed Paul wrote Hebrews. Now some TTers are in agreement with SB and are suggesting the headers may be errant. I'm trying to figure out why so many TTers have been so opposed to me suggesting there may have been errors introduced into

[TruthTalk] Please hear me out before ousting me.

2004-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let everyone see that you are gentle and kind. The Lord is coming soon. Do not worry about anything, but pray and ask God for everything you need, always giving thanks. And God's peace, which is so great we cannot understand it, will keep your hearts

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Wm. Taylor
Terry wrote, We are not saved by being inerrant. We are saved by faith. I say, at the risk of alienating myself from the friends I have, I would like weigh in on this one. Maybe it is not our faith that saves us - but Christ in whom we have faith. It was the object of our faith who lived, died,

[TruthTalk] Please Hear Me Out Before Ousting Me

2004-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy, if you haven't already read my first message like this one, please read this one instead. I have corrected some typos in this one. The content remains intact. jt: No problem Mr. Bill but I hope you don't mind if I respond mainly to your newer points for the sake of brevity. Judy, If

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Is this deeply embedded? 2 Tim 3;16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness ALL Scripture is given for what? doctrine: and some of you need some good doctrine Reproof: And some of you need REPROOF

[TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Wm. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Terry wrote, We are not saved by being inerrant. We are saved by faith. I say, at the risk of alienating myself from the friends I have, I would like weigh in on this one. Maybe it is not our faith that saves us - but Christ in whom we have faith. jt: If we

[TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
I like these scriptures - all of them and IMO speaking the truth to someone IS loving them even when they don't appreciate it. I someone on the radio quoting Martin Luther who once said "Whenever the devil is challenged he starts weeping and talking about love" judyt God allows the devil

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Wm. Taylor wrote: Terry wrote, We are not saved by being inerrant. We are saved by faith. I say, at the risk of alienating myself from the friends I have, I would like weigh in on this one. Maybe it is not our faith that saves us - but Christ in whom we have faith. It was the object of our

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Wm. Taylor
Judy wrote Just contributing something different for consideration since youmay be reacting to the "faith" movement where ppl are taught to havefaith in their faith Mr. Bill. I don't believe from what I've read from Terry that he is one of these. Terry? I say It's fine to

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Wm. Taylor
Fair enough. Bill - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ Wm. Taylor wrote: Terry wrote, We are not saved by being inerrant. We are saved by faith. I

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: I like these scriptures - all of them and IMO speaking the truth to someone IS loving them even when they don't appreciate it. I someone on the radio quoting Martin Luther who once said "Whenever the devil is challenged he starts weeping and talking about

[TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Is that what you would call what goes on here Terry? I know Kevin's style (and mine at times) is kind of cut and dried but I have come to appreciate the time he puts into doing his homework and his zeal for God's Word. Going through all that Mormon stuff must be so boring; how does one

[TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy wrote Just contributing something different for consideration since youmay be reacting to the "faith" movement where ppl are taught to havefaith in their faith Mr. Bill. I don't believe from what I've read from Terry that he is one of these.

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Wm. Taylor
Maybe if they are doing it at all, Peter and Paul are doing just what Terry suggested. Maybe they are"using verbal stoning as a last resort." Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:51 PM Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Wm. Taylor
No, I'll let Luther speak for himself, but when I see Luther I'll ask him for you. Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:01 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ From: "Wm. Taylor"

Re: [TruthTalk] Please Hear Me Out Before Ousting Me

2004-03-08 Thread Wm. Taylor
Well, Judy, I am sorry you could not see you were sinking. I threw you a rope, hoping to pull you ashore. What did you do? You used it to hang yourself. The good news is, there is resurrection. I'm thankful for the opportunity you have given me to help you, though. Maybe others will not be

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Judy Taylor wrote: Is that what you would call what goes on here Terry? I know Kevin's style (and mine at times) is kind of cut and dried but I have come to appreciate the time he puts into doing his homework and his zeal for God's Word.

[TruthTalk] The Mediation of Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Wm. Taylor
Hey David Miller, Did you get the book? Have you read it yet? You sure are quiet. Bill

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Look at how the apostle Paul dealt with a similar situation in Acts 13:10 he said "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord" Then there was Peter with the newly

Re: [TruthTalk] Nothing to respond to or not able?

2004-03-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Nothing to respond to or not able? Blaine Today is the 6th of March, and I

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine You are probably right about one thing, the Southern Baptists would not believe anything they had not heard inculcated into their minds by tradition, repetition,and the fear of the boys with the hoods who burn crosses in your front yard if you disagree with them or have a little

[TruthTalk] Please Hear Me Out Before Ousting Me

2004-03-08 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "Wm. Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, Judy, I am sorry you could not see you were sinking. I threw you a rope, hoping to pull you ashore. What did you do? You used it to hang yourself. The good news is, there is resurrection. I'm thankful for the opportunity you have given me to help

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Blaine Borrowman wrote: Blaine You are probably right about one thing, the Southern Baptists would not believe anything they had not heard inculcated into their minds by tradition, repetition,and the fear of the boys with the hoods who burn crosses in your front yard if you

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Oh No they are taking over Fastest growing CULT in America!Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine You are probably right about one thing, the Southern Baptists would not believe anything they had not heard inculcated into their minds by tradition, repetition,and the fear of the boys

Re: [TruthTalk] Nothing to respond to or not able?

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
There you go a perfect picture of LDS Kindergarten TheologyBlaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Nothing to respond to or not able? Blaine

Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons

2004-03-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons Blaine, The Mormon shuffle, again, Blaine. The "other flock" happens to be the gentiles. Do

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
I would welcome that event. But in the meantimeI will revel in all the conversions right outside the SLC Temple gates. See you in April Blaine.Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine Borrowman wrote: Blaine You are probably right about one thing, the Southern Baptists would not believe

Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons

2004-03-08 Thread Kevin Deegan
Did you finish Aesop's yet?Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "Charles Perry Locke" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons Blaine, The Mormon

Re: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons

2004-03-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 12:21 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] DNA Evidence Discourages Mormons From: "Blaine Borrowman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blaine: Read this Kevin, and weep: What about the

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-08 Thread Dave
Kevin Deegan wrote: Oh No they are taking over Fastest growing CULT in America! DAVEH: ??? You've lost me on this Kevin.What are you trying to say? Blaine Borrowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine You are probably right about one thing, the Southern

Re: [TruthTalk] Nothing to respond to or not able?

2004-03-08 Thread Blaine Borrowman
Blaine: Is this your best shot Kevin--a put down? If you can't handle the truth, at least be a gentleman and admit it. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Nothing to

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-08 Thread Dave
Terry Clifton wrote: C'mon Blaine. If a Mormon missionary ever got a handle on the truth, he would stop being a Morman and repent. As for the Mormon temples spreading through the south like fire ant hills, it is no surprise. We are told that in the last days, there will be a great falling

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-08 Thread Terry Clifton
Dave wrote: Terry Clifton wrote: DAVEH: Your comment interests me, Terry. Where does it say that? Second Thessalonians, 2:3 New KJV Terry -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6)

Re: [TruthTalk] Questions set the tone

2004-03-08 Thread Dave
Terry Clifton wrote: Look at how the apostle Paul dealt with a similar situation in Acts 13:10 he said "O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord"

Re: [TruthTalk] Old hebrew Coins found in Kentucky?

2004-03-08 Thread Dave
Terry Clifton wrote: Dave wrote: Terry Clifton wrote: DAVEH: Your comment interests me, Terry. Where does it say that? Second Thessalonians, 2:3 New KJV DAVEH: Thanx Terry.Let me quote it... Let no

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Dave
Terry Clifton wrote: DAVEH: Until I heard Steve Brown's broadcast, I believed Paul wrote Hebrews. Now some TTers are in agreement with SB and are suggesting the headers may be errant. I'm trying to figure out why so many TTers have been so opposed to me suggesting there may have been errors

Re: [TruthTalk] The Trinity

2004-03-08 Thread Dave
David Miller wrote: DaveH wrote: With one purpose, they (including the HS) form the Godhead..which purpose is encompassed in the plan of salvation. At least that's how I see it, DavidM. The problem with simplifying the discussion to saying that they were one

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion of the Christ

2004-03-08 Thread Dave
Judy Taylor wrote: From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kevin Deegan wrote: No dave you are an unbeliever in God's word You are not of God. You will not enter in because of UNBELIEF. DAVEH: Until I heard Steve Brown's broadcast, I believed Paul wrote Hebrews. Now some