Thanks for taking time to do this. I'm checking
these out.
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From:
Slade
Henson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 17, 2004 20:12
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:A
Bookseller's 'wish'
--
The Five Books of Moses (The Schocken Bible Serie
Are you confident that the 'translation' is by
Ryrie as opposed to the 'notes'? Please illustrate your charge that he is a
liberal as I did not so view him.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 17, 2004 19:13
Subject: RE: [Tr
Not ALL men have done this. My intent was to have a
comment on those who 'have done this'. I do understand that it does not include
ALL MEN. Might you take another run at this? (as an observant, caring
woman)
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Emily.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 17, 2004 19:30
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
963.176 - 203 of 613 Commands
jt: In the Oct 28 message below I had just
learned
ï
There is but one covenant (Abrahamic). It is
unilateral. It is given by God and brought to fulfilment by this same God. How?
In and through the obedient/Incarnate/Israelite, Jesus (Immanuel-God with
us)
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From:
Jeff
Powers
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ï
jt: Covenants are bilateral and Covenants can be
broken. There have been more than one. God made Covenant with Noah, the sign
being the rainbow. Obviously you have never done a scriptural study on the
meaning of Covenant. May I safely assume that your definition below is also
that of Torra
ï
What is 'obvious' to you is incorrect as I have
done such a 'study'. This word 'study', though somewhat appropriate, is not one
of my favourite words when used concerning those words through which we come to
better understand the Nature of our God and His Gospel. I prefer the word
'indwell'
Roman 7 starts with the word "Or." So to me that means
that you need to back up and get some contextual
clues. I took the time to read Chp. 7 in three
translations(NIV, NASB, and Complete Jewish). And I
read the entire book of Romans. I couldn't stop
reading (only in one tranlation).
In chapter 6
I think that sometimes it is those who do not speak so
much that are the one's with more knowledge. Judy has
given up on you (so to speak). I think maybe it's
just a matter of asking you the right questions. Or
even one question...Could you please explain your one
word response?
I hope that I ca
Too funny Jeff!!
Suzy
--- Jeff Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Terry,
> I don't know what translation Kay is using but try
> these:
> Lev 11:44 I am the LORD your God; consecrate
> yourselves and be holy, because
> I am holy. Do not make yourselves unclean by any
> creature that moves about
Study to show thyself approved. Don't give up hope
Jeff. The Lord gives wisdom to those who seek it.
Suzy
--- Jeff Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wish I had the way with words that you do!
> For everyone else, I have seen a verse thrown at
> Slade and he responds verbally just as quick
And you said you didn't have a way with words.
Suzy
--- Jeff Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David,
>
> >From the beginning of God’s creation God wanted
> nothing more than a personal relationship with man.
> But, man chose not to have a relationship with God.
> During the rise of civilizat
Lance Muir wrote:
There is but one covenant
(Abrahamic). It is unilateral. It is given by God and brought to
fulfilment by this same God. How? In and through the
obedient/Incarnate/Israelite, Jesus (Immanuel-God with us)
===
Not o
Brother Terry:
As you do not know whereof you speak I'd suggest a
little homework prior to identifying what you read as both 'myth & dog doo
doo'. You possess, I believe, an anemic grasp of The Incarnation. When one is
nescient of both ancient and contemporary literature on a matter, one is
bullseye!
(Suz, I like
how John handles DavidM--I hope he hangs around,
too:)
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 04:22:28 -0800 (PST) Susan
Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>..it's just a matter of asking..the right
questions.
A very, very low BSQ!! Given this morning's 'trash
talk' I think I want to join 'em.
David:Though I don't think you'd appreciate the
comparison, it is one of those things I deeply appreciate about
you.
Lance
Much
like the constitution of the USA,
God's covenant has been amended several times. Do we in the USA have a new
constitution today that has replace the original? Here we go again,
somebody has pryed more words out of me than I usually care to write!
Izzy, are you fol
Suzy,
meet Gary, the master of one word replies. MYTH being the predominant one.
The fact that he wrote about 5 sentences this week is cause for celebration!
I think he just may be coming out of his shell, but it is too soon to tell!
Jeff
Don't get your hopes up. What actual
In a message dated 11/18/2004 1:47:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-- The Five Books of Moses (The Schocken Bible Series) -- translated by Everett Fox
(A great translation of the first five books of the Bible)
-- Pirkei Avos with insights of the Sfas Emes and other C
In a message dated 11/18/2004 2:13:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Are you confident that the 'translation' is by Ryrie as opposed to the 'notes'? Please illustrate your charge that he is a liberal as I did not so view him.
- Original Message -
From: ShieldsFamily
You are asking the women on this forum to
tell on their men? J Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
3:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Gender
differences
Not ALL men have done
From “The Divine Conspiracy”,
just one example of Ryrie changing the text:
Ryrie is so sure that the
saving gospel is about Jesus’ death that, in Matthew’s story of
Mary Magdalene’s anointing of Jesus for burial, he simply inserts the
words about his death after
As to your second observation, you would be correct.Now, as
to THAT OBSERVATION, I wish to add the following: It may be that none of 'us'
has adequately represented the theology within. Please, do not be dismissive of
that which you may not yourself adequately apprehend. Already one perso
Projector please not, a protector.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 09:21
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Two
Covenants
Suzy,meet Gary, the master of
one word replies. MYTH being the predominant
Sighh My question, you will note, remains
unanswered. Also, your quote demonstrates what?
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 09:32
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Repentance
From The Divine
Conspiracy, jus
I most assuredly am!! Not my wife of
course.Yikes!
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 09:33
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Gender
differences
You are asking the
women on this forum to tell on their men? J
There was and, you failed. Seriously though, I
believe you may have approached the opportunity with a bias.
Possible?
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 09:41
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Two
Covenants?
A
No, Terry, stick to your guns! You have
more sense that all of L-man’s authors put together. J Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
7:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two
Covenants?
To WHAT are you responding, Lance?
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
8:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] Re:What have
David Miller & George Carlin got in common??
A very, very low BS
The whole key to understanding why Lance,
John, and Jonathan are so intent on getting everyone’s “favourite”
reading list is this: In most Christian circles when someone meets you and
wants to figure out what theological box to put you into they ask, “Where
do you go to church?”. If you sa
Ah, yes…the liberals continue to
pile on. J
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
8:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two
Covenants
Projector please not, a protector.
- O
Oh, do please put her on! J Iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
8:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Gender
differences
I most assuredly am!! Not my wife of course.Yikes!
Lance your question WAS: Are you
confident that the 'translation' is by Ryrie as opposed to the 'notes'? Ryrie changes
the text (not just his notes) to support his liberal bias. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, Novem
So my understanding of God, which has been
developed over the past 35 years, is “bias”—of which you and
yours have none? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [T
I assume that what you reflect in this post to
Terry would've been similar to the way you raised your children (i.e. 'don't
think about the possibility that 'they' might have something of substance to say
that you don't already know..just stick to your guns' Good
pedagogy!
- Original
If you'd read what Jonathan said that I said
concerning you in a couple of his recent posts you'd immediately apologize.I do
believe I said this in a post sent to you directly, did I not?
What is it with you Iz do you just set out some
days to piss some people off?
Please make an effort
Seriously..fuzzier..and fuzzier...Let's just drop
it. I truly have no idea what you're getting at except well...I've said
enough
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 09:55
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Repentance
Do you have a 'time out' corner? Go, sit in it
then, come back (15 min will do) WE ALL...I SAID ALL...HAVE BIASES..PLEASE TELL
ME THAT YOU KNOW THAT?
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 09:57
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk
Just testing your limits, Lance. It’s
good for your spiritual growth. J
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
10:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:A
Bookseller's 'wish'
If you'd
Isn’t that what I just said below???
(Are you hard of hearing?) The point is this:
you use this as a reason to write-off my objections to Kruger. It’s a
perfect scapegoat. Why don’t you use it as a reason that you like Kruger instead? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAI
Fortunately, my children are smarter than
I am. And they would agree with Terry, too. J Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
9:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two
Covenants?
I seriously doubt that they are 'smarter' than you.
I'm guessing you're referring to their level of formal education which is not
the same thing.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 11:55
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Tw
Still functioning WITHIN my limits.
Thanks.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 11:56
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:A
Bookseller's 'wish'
Just testing your
limits, Lance. Its good for your spiritual gro
Sorry, that is what you said. Where's the
corner?
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 11:58
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Two
Covenants?
Isnt that what I
just said below??? (Are you hard of hearing?) The po
Lance Muir wrote:
Brother Terry:
As you do not know whereof you speak
I'd suggest a little homework prior to identifying what you read as
both 'myth & dog doo doo'. You possess, I believe, an anemic grasp
of The Incarnation. When one is nescient of both ancient and
contemporar
Terry:You obviously have received 'wisdom from the
word'. I read all of your posts. I trust that if any of your young 'uns got
'knowledge from the college' that you do not think less of them for
that.
I'm most certainly NOT educated above my ability to
learn.
No Terry, that is not what
Terry,
I doubt calling someone's apprehension of the unilateral
covenant (Read gospel and therefore read Jesus Christ. We do not divide
God's action from God's being.) a pile of dogshit or a man-made story would
be the reason the Lord has placed you on this forum. You may find that the
L
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:55:56
-0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
||
Ryrie changes the text
(not just his notes) to support his liberal bias
II
myth
E.g., the Ryrie
text in question is changed to a more radical conservative
rendition, ff.:
'that wherever th
Lance Muir wrote:
Terry:You obviously have received
'wisdom from the word'. I read all of your posts. I trust that if any
of your young 'uns got 'knowledge from the college' that you do not
think less of them for that.
I'm most certainly NOT educated
above my ability to lea
Fair 'nuff, Terry.
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 18, 2004 14:29
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two
Covenants?
Lance Muir wrote:
Terry:You obviously have received 'wisdom from
the word'. I read all
Hughes Jonathan wrote:
Terry,
I doubt calling someone's
apprehension of the unilateral covenant (Read gospel and therefore read
Jesus Christ. We do not divide God's action from God's being.) a pile
of dogshit or a man-made story would be the reason the Lord has placed
you on
Hi all. Bill Taylor here, back from
hiatus.
I have been lurking off and on for some time now
(as Lance and John and some others know). I have anticipated posting again
but have been reluctant to do so. The reason for this has first to do with
me and my responsibilities to you. I think it w
I miss the Iz I once defended -- since the political exchanges, you have contributed precious little to this forum. This "key to understanding " the Defensive Three was started by one of your buds, the well read Mr Slade but he is not included in your little tyraid -- your bias is now mo
In a message dated 11/18/2004 11:58:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Canât somebody send him a surge protector??? Iz
:-)
J
In a message dated 11/18/2004 11:58:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An old saying, but a true one. "You get knowledge from college. You get wisdom from the word". The two are not the same. Some people are educated far above their ability to learn.
That is very possibly
In a message dated 11/18/2004 11:59:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David repeatedly states his position that we have emasculated males on this forum. As one man to another Terry, consider yourself rebuked.
Disappointed, as well.
John
Great to have you back -- even for a season.
a friend
John
In a message dated 11/18/2004 4:33:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all. Bill Taylor here, back from hiatus.
I have been lurking off and on for some time now (as Lance and John and some others kn
yes..are you afraid to fail?
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 20:38:14 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Great to have you back..
||In a
message dated 11/18/2004 4:33:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:>But I want no part in weakening
you..
Thanks John. I'm glad you're here to greet
me.
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:38
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Towards
edification
Great to have you back
-- even for a season. a
That's a funny way of putting it. Failure and I are
old acquaintances. I hate it when he visits; it's that darn NIKE gene in
me. But I guess I am not really afraid; I'm here anyway.
It's good to see you, g. I've appreciated your
covenant posts.
- Original Message -
From:
[E
In a message dated 11/18/2004 5:15:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I miss the Iz I once defended -- since the political exchanges, you have contributed precious little to this forum. This "key to understanding " the Defensive Three was started by one of your buds, the we
:)
- Original Message -
From: "Susan Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 7:51
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two
Covenants?
> And you said
you didn't have a way with words.> > Suzy> > ---
Jeff Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:> >> David,
Your gallantry is only exceeded by your generosity.
J Iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
12:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Two Covenants?
I seriously doubt that they are
's
Jeff -- the youngest old man in this forum, demonstrates his refusal to grow up with this post. We may have more in common than our first impressions would suggest.
Lev 11:44 ego enim sum Dominus Deus vester sancti
>estote quoniam et ego
>sanctus sum ne polluatis animas vestras in omni
Cool!
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
12:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:A
Bookseller's 'wish'
Still functioning WITHIN my limits. Thanks.
- Original Message -
Greetings to you also, and welcome back
friend! Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
6:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] Towards
edification
Hi all. Bill Taylor
here, back from hi
Why am I laughing? Good one Jonathan.
Izzy (PS I hope I’m not tearing others down. If so, I rebuke myself!)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Hughes Jonathan
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
1:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
‘Scuze me? I thought bigotry had to do
with race or something? What bigotry? Against left wingers? Nope—that would be
discernment, wouldn’t it? Izzy
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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004
7:14 PM
To: [EM
In a message dated 11/17/2004 11:19:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: It is getting pretty bad when I resort to responding to my own posts...
My aim is to agitate and disturb people. I'm not selling bread, I'm selling
yeast. -Miguel de Unamuno, writer and philos
Does anyone understand anything about
Kabbalah? I think it is not something a Christian could be; right? Izzy
I veto that idea. Izzy
To David Miller: back off to maybe 8 or 10
-- 20 or 30 is a bit much -- John
In a message dated 11/18/2004 8:39:07 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone understand anything about Kabbalah? I think it is not something a Christian could be; right? Izzy
As long as it is not pork, should be OK for all of us on this list. Right?
John the Bar-B-Q
myth (what's bein'
disguised here, Suz?)
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:33:54 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
.. What bigotry?
Against left wingers? Nope—that would be discernment, wouldn’t it?
Izzy
jt: Right. It's some kind of ancient Jewish
mysticism that is occult in nature and very popular with the
New Age type mindset; Madonna studies it.
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:38:34 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Does anyone
understand anything about Kabbalah? I think
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