OK name names
Who believes only the original OLDE 1611 is the Word of God?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/16/2005 6:23:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An Astute Student would have not gone off on a tangent about the OLDE KJV. NO ONE believes what David put up as
Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
http://www.bible.org/page.asp?page_id=1197
From 1611 until now, the King James Bible has undergone a grand total of 421 word changes, amounting to only five one-hundredths of a percent of the text! But that's not all. It gets better.
Out of the 421 total ch
I find JD to be Characterized by a lack of scripture to buttress his points and quick to draw Negative word pictures of individuals appeal to feelings, rather than deal with the subject at hand. ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-Original Message-John wrote:
> The fact of the
In a message dated 2/16/2005 6:23:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
An Astute Student would have not gone off on a tangent about the OLDE KJV. NO ONE believes what David put up as his straw man. Does anyone know someone who believes such?
Of course there are. But you would
In a message dated 2/16/2005 6:19:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So be it. How long before you start calling names again?
post a name I called you.
http://www.bible.org/page.asp?page_id=1197
From 1611 until now, the King James Bible has undergone a grand total of 421 word changes, amounting to only five one-hundredths of a percent of the text! But that's not all. It gets better.
Out of the 421 total changes amounting to only five one-hundredt
From:
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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005
7:55 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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Homosexual Agenda
In a message dated 2/16/2005 3:56:40 PM Pacific Standard
Time, [EMAI
Thanks—I searched and couldn’t
find it. I didn’t use Snopes, however—will next time. Izzy
From:
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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005
6:03 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
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Subjec
Snarling at other folks is not the best way of showing the superior quality of your own character. He is blind who thinks he sees everything. The observant man recognizes many mysteries into which he can not pretend to see, and he remembers that the world is too wide for the eye of one man. But the
An Astute Student would have not gone off on a tangent about the OLDE KJV. NO ONE believes what David put up as his straw man. Does anyone know someone who believes such?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems as though, of late, every time I compliment or agree with someone on the right, I get nailed fo
So be it. How long before you start calling names again?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/16/2005 10:43:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:45:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LOL[EMAIL
considering what is the driving force behind this tendency.
Sodomites like Virginia Mollenkott being on the translation
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
John wrote:> No wonder you think the KJV is inspired> -- it may be the only translation that translates> the Hebrew word (qadesh) "sodomit
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kevin wrote:> Pure word of God is what I hold> in my hands. AV1611Are you saying that you only accept the Authorized Version of 1611 as the Pure word of God? Why then do you not quote from it?
http://av1611.com/kjbp/faq/revisions.html
KD says Whats the diffe
In a message dated 2/16/2005 3:56:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am only trying to help you become more self-aware of your abrasiveness to others and your quickness to take personal offense from those who are IMO much kinder-spoken than you are. Izzy
Yes, I am way too sa
In a message dated 2/16/2005 3:33:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
>Any interpretation is open to disagreement, is it not?
No. This goes back to our discussion about what it means to be in unity and
speak the same thing. Much of the Bible is open to interpreta
In a message dated 2/16/2005 3:24:52 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I haven't said anything about your character. I don't know where you are
getting this idea.
What I was saying is that your language reflects an intrusion from the
homosexual agenda and political correct a
Yes - I should have noted my reply was in bold print. Sorry. JD
In a message dated 2/16/2005 3:24:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I cannot tell what was newly written on this email. JD could you change colors or something to make it easier? Iz
From:
Izzy, Snopes claims this story about the Christians and
the tsunami is urban legend. However, I agree with
you that this would not be surprising and I'm sure
there are other testimonies. judyt
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:21:45 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Michael, I
-Original Message-
John wrote:
> The fact of the matter is this you have
> pretended to know something about my character
> because of my use of the word "gay."
John wrote:
> You are out of line and insulting and have
> accomplish nothing with your comment.
Y
John wrote:
> Any interpretation is open to disagreement, is it not?
No. This goes back to our discussion about what it means to be in unity and
speak the same thing. Much of the Bible is open to interpretation, but we
should always be working toward agreement instead of disagreement. No
Chr
Michael wrote:
> I'll keep you folks up-to-date as
> I get more info.
Please do, Michael. Interesting stuff. You always press me to go further.
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you ought to answer eve
I cannot tell what was newly written on
this email. JD could you change colors or something to make it easier? Iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005
4:12 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject:
John wrote:
> The fact of the matter is this you have
> pretended to know something about my character
> because of my use of the word "gay."
I haven't said anything about your character. I don't know where you are
getting this idea.
What I was saying is that your language reflects an i
Michael, I agree completely with your
point of view. I believe that we should do spiritual warfare, as well as use
all the power we are given as citizens of our governments to do God’s
will within our realm of authority. However I think the story of God’s
protection over those Christians
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:17:12 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bill Taylor wrote to
Judy: You started out criticizing
what I had said about those who have
tendencies, but are not acting upon them.
You did that with these words:
People who have been ma
It is this kind of thing that puts us [or, at least, me] in my place. Well worth the reading. I do not include such lengthy quotes, as a rule, but this is great and I wanted to share with those who can receive the message (not an insult to those who care not for Torrence, by the way). It is fu
In a message dated 2/16/2005 9:48:02 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Again I did answer this question.
The answer is CHARACTER
one side NAZIS PERVERTS HERETICS
The other Scholars &Christians
Who are these scholars, Kev? I am curious. Are they all Missionary Baptists
In a message dated 2/16/2005 1:28:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
historical present tense
John writes about the "historical present tense":
>this is not a grammatical distinction --
>only a philosophical one, and, hence, open
>for disageement.
It is more than a philosophi
Michael D: Very interesting indeed, Izzy. As you said,if true, what a testimony of divine providence... Thank God for His mercy.
Interesting to read your statement about our not having rights, here. While that may be true, sometimes we hae to resist the bully (enemy) from throwing us off course,
In a message dated 2/16/2005 1:13:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Wrong, John. The NASV translates qadesh as sodomites in 1 Kings 22:46. The
Modern King James Version has six verse with the word. The ASV has five.
I'll let you do the rest of the homework. Nothing pers
In a message dated 2/16/2005 1:06:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John wrote:
>You have expressed a personal judgment about
>me, and then offered a pretense for that determination.
It is not a pretense, John. I am very serious.
I didn't say you were kidding. I know you
In a message dated 2/16/2005 11:38:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There are too many homosexuals these days who think that God accepts them
along with their homosexuality. The Metropolitan Community Church is one
example, and look at how the Episcopals accept homosexual
It seems as though, of late, every time I compliment or agree with someone on the right, I get nailed for something I have written. But, what the hey -- I am going to take a chance and record a commendation. The point below of David's is actually very good point/question.
And while I
historical present tense
John writes about the "historical present tense":
> this is not a grammatical distinction --
> only a philosophical one, and, hence, open
> for disageement.
It is more than a philosophical distinction, but perhaps you mean to point
out that there is no specific syntax or
In a message dated 2/16/2005 10:43:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LOL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:45:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LOL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 1:23:14 PM Pacific Standa
Bill Taylor wrote to Judy:
> You started out
criticizing what I had said about
> those who have tendencies, but are not acting
> upon them. You did that with these
words: "People
> who have been made free in
Christ no longer have
> "those
tendencies" Jesus not only paid the price
> f
John wrote:
> No wonder you think the KJV is inspired
> -- it may be the only translation that translates
> the Hebrew word (qadesh) "sodomites."
> Such is not the case in the New KJV, NIV,
> NASV -- probably the RSV.
Wrong, John. The NASV translates qadesh as sodomites in 1 Kings 22:46. The
*note Subject Change
Subject was "Mormons and Street Preachers" and now is "The Homosexual
Agenda"
David Miller wrote:
>> I still think he has been tainted by the
>> homosexual agenda and their lies.
>> Just the use of the word "gay" tells me that,
>> and the use of the phrase "gay types" tells
David Miller wrote:
>> No, this phrase does not ring any bells
>> with me. That's the point, John.
>> The Bible does not teach that some of
>> us are homosexuals.
John wrote:
> We are all something on that list, David.
Speak for yourself. You do not speak for me or many other saints who have
b
Izzy wrote:
> David, do you mean my husband should
> take the blame for my sins???
He should share some of the blame. The Scriptures teach men to have
their
families under control, including the wife.
I should think that God would grade on the
curve on this issue, as some me
Bill wrote:
> The word "gay," while not an accurate
> depiction of the homosexual lifestyle,
> has nonetheless become a figurative
> convention in our language.
> To use "gay" interchangeably with "homosexual"
> in this day and age does not necessarily indicate
> any bias at all on the part of the
Izzy wrote:
> David, do you mean my husband should
> take the blame for my sins???
He should share some of the blame. The Scriptures teach men to have their
families under control, including the wife.
Izzy wrote:
> Do your wife's sins accrue to your
> personal account as well?
I'm not aware of
Bill Taylor wrote:
> I read this and could not get it out of mind;
> it continues to shape my thinking in this area:
> ... ...
I have no problem with the love and hug stuff, Bill, but I do have a problem
with the idea of acceptance without rebuke. I have had similar experiences
with homosexual
Kevin wrote:
> Pure word of God is what I hold
> in my hands. AV1611
Are you saying that you only accept the Authorized Version of 1611 as the
Pure word of God? Why then do you not quote from it?
Kevin wrote:
> I fervently resist because I was enlightened to
> the fact that I have the very word
LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:45:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 1:23:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He holds himself up as a pastor.He holds himself up as a teacher
Your complaint should be taken up with God who is at fault for this shameful rendition in His book for all these years uncorrected until two Jesuit Mary Worshipping Heretics (Westcott & Hort) brought us their preTEXT the RV or Baal Version in 1881 You know the Alexandrian text with all its imperfec
KJV is acceiptable but all other scholarship is hell bound, I have no desire to discuss this
WHICH EDITIONS?
A man who owns only one watch ... knows what time it is, But a man who has two watches ... is never quite sure.
Again I did answer this question.
The answer is CHARACTER
one side N
I gave you my list
The B I B L E now that's the list for me
I stand alone on the Word of God the B I B L E
CHARACTER that is the issue
Alexandrian scholars NAZIS SODOMITES HERETICS PERVERTS
The KJV Scholars had character
The KJV has Character
I choose the latter[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a me
JD says Whether Kittle was a Nazi is of no consequence to me in view of the value this work.
The only commentary authorized by Adolf!
C'mon a man that was intimately involved in the Gasing of Millions of Jews? Now that is a man God can use!
"No consequence" if they are Sodomites or Nazi's?
Se
ahhh spoken like a true Linix Geek Charles Perry Locke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are also 10 types of people...those who understand binary, and those who don't.>From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>To: TruthTalk >Subject: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.
A Real Sheppard does not love Wolves but identifies the problem & removes it for the benefit of the Sheep! An Idol Sheppard or hireling is broad minded and allows the Judas goat in & the fleecing of the SheepJudy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:02:10 EST [EMAIL PROTE
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:58:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Ignoranace is in your mind since you have what I don't have; a worshipful attitude to High minded persons (greek scholars who are mostly heretics) and the revered Greek manuscripts of every stripe. I am no
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:47:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Every time a thought of superiority or vanity moves you, examine your conscience to see if you have kept all the commandments.
Good advice. Practice what you preach.
JD
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:45:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LOL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 1:23:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He holds himself up as a pastor.
He holds himself up as a teacher
He constantly slaps
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:43:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Maybe you can straighten it out.
Why do you change the hard words to a softer word when it comes to Sodomites?
"Sodomite" is a KJV word and is a poor translation of the Hebrew "qadesh." And, it has no
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:41:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let me spell it out then Christ DOES NOT USE THE TITLE EXCLUSIVELY!
God calls Ezekial "son of Man" many many times I did not count them all.
Kevin, if you and David, are going to argue the point, you migh
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:39:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One way we can see which is blessed of God is the translations fruits
Surely NO translation can compare to the record of Missionary activity, revivals etc that followed the KJV
Again NO answer!
Which Gree
In a message dated 2/16/2005 4:18:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So from now on we call them as they are the greek TEXTS
A pile contradictory &sometimes corrupted
Keep ignoring my question, Kevin. You couldn't come up with a list -- and now, you stand as a failure
Et al:
Kittles is, indeed, a household word among those who are actually students of the biblical message. The contribution of the 10 volume (actually nine volumes and an index) commentary/word study should not be ignored. Whether Kittle was a Nazi is of no consequence to me in view of the
There are also 10 types of people...those who understand binary, and those
who don't.
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
To: TruthTalk
Subject: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of A.Word.A.Day
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:32:37 -0800
There are three truths: my truth, yo
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:02:10 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 12:52:30 PM
Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:John wrote: And the
point of Romans 1? Does the phrase " and such are some of
you" ring any bells?DavidM: No, this phrase does n
In a message dated 2/15/2005 1:56:40 PM Pacific
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Our job, it seems to me, as
Christians is not to convict people of their sins; that is the work of the Holy
Spirit. Our job is to love them, to accept them, to embrace them, as Roland did
the young ma
Dave Hansen wrote:
There are three truths: my truth, your truth, and the truth. -Chinese
proverb
=
How many types of lies do you suppose there are? :)
Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may kn
And the homosexuals/sodomites themselves love these
newer translations. I was on a Christian list where one who claimed to be
a believer translated every scripture having to do with homosexuality into a
social problem. He found a scripture in Ezekiel that described some of Sodom's
other p
The Ignoranace is in your mind since you have what I don't have; a worshipful attitude to High minded persons (greek scholars who are mostly heretics) and the revered Greek manuscripts of every stripe. I am not interested in falling at their feet and that bothers you.
You have not shown my lack o
Please re-post those two occasions
TWO Occasions? LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 7:11:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
"When respect is not afforded to those so well-deserved, it speaks ill of the one who feels he cannot afford to give it."ShieldsFa
Every time a thought of superiority or vanity moves you, examine your conscience to see if you have kept all the commandments. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 2:50:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I’ll vouch for that—JD has called KD “ignorant”
LOL[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 1:23:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
He holds himself up as a pastor.He holds himself up as a teacherHe constantly slaps others and calls names.I am taking it easy.Names? What names, Kevin?
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! S
Maybe you can straighten it out.
Why do you change the hard words to a softer word when it comes to Sodomites? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 12:48:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill Taylor quoted John:>Well, for one thing, it does not include the>les
Let me spell it out then Christ DOES NOT USE THE TITLE EXCLUSIVELY!
God calls Ezekial "son of Man" many many times I did not count them all.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/2005 12:26:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With that same concordance in hand, as I s
One way we can see which is blessed of God is the translations fruits
Surely NO translation can compare to the record of Missionary activity, revivals etc that followed the KJV
Again NO answer!
Which Greek?
Which Printing?
Which Edition?
Which Scholar?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2
No wonder you guys are hung up on Practicing
1 Timothy 1:9-10, TNIV9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,10 for the sexually immoral, f
If the originals were inspired what would the copies be?
The word of God is alive & like begets like.
In a message dated 2/15/2005 5:38:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sodomite is the Bible word unless it has been excised of anything pertaining to sex perverts like the NIV th
So from now on we call them as they are the greek TEXTS
A pile contradictory & sometimes corrupted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/14/2005 3:10:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Since the greekophiles use THE original text, we know there is only ONE original text,
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