Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-06 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2005 10:38:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:   My latest post is in GREENblue for JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2005 8:54:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAI

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/6/2005 5:31:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   Jd in bold print JD writes: Paul tells us that we are "justified" by faith apart from obedience to [moral and ceremonial] law.  That occurs because of the faith

[TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-06 Thread Judy Taylor
  JD writes: Paul tells us that we are "justified" by faith apart from obedience to [moral and ceremonial] law.  That occurs because of the faith of Christ  -- God seeing that and accepting it as our righteousness.    This blessing occurs "in Christ" via the Incarnation which presented al

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/5/2005 10:38:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:   My latest post is in GREENblue for JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2005 8:54:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  If you really don't want to

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   My latest post is in GREEN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2005 8:54:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  If you really don't want to continue, John...so be it.  But I would still like to know why you do not consider your

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread Dave Hansen
David Miller wrote: DaveH wrote: > Or could they have been (metaphorically) driven out. > IOWPerhaps they were a little more sensitive than > me to the pressure of some to exclude from TT those > who have opposing opinions. Good point, maybe kind of like the o

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/5/2005 8:54:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  If you really don't want to continue, John...so be it.  But I would still like to know why you do not consider yourself a Protestant.  Which of the reasons mentioned in your definition. a mem

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/5/2005 8:54:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  If you really don't want to continue, John...so be it.  But I would still like to know why you do not consider yourself a Protestant.  Which of the reasons mentioned in your definition. a mem

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  If you really don't want to continue, John...so be it.  But I would still like to know why you do not consider yourself a Protestant.  Which of the reasons mentioned in your definition. a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread Knpraise
We have an earlier post  (this evening) that is a much better start than this one.  You want me to be a Portestant, no argument.   Call me anything you want  --  just don't don't call me late to dinner.   Let's trash this post  --  shall we?  Jd In a message dated 4/4/2005 10:38:55 PM Pacific

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread David Miller
DaveH wrote: > Or could they have been (metaphorically) driven out.> IOWPerhaps they were a little more sensitive than > me to the pressure of some to exclude from TT those > who have opposing opinions. Good point, maybe kind of like the other Mormons who no longer post here.  How d

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  Or could they have been (metaphorically) driven out.     IOWPerhaps they were a little more sensitive than me to the pressure of some to exclude from TT those who have opposing opinions. David Miller wrote: Lance wrote: > To my knowledge there are no Roman Cat

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread Lance Muir
ubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice Lance wrote: > To my knowledge there are no Roman Catholic > or Orthodox participants.   Just for the record, we have had both Roman Catholic and Orthodox participants on TruthTalk, but none of them lasted very lon

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-05 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: > To my knowledge there are no Roman Catholic > or Orthodox participants.   Just for the record, we have had both Roman Catholic and Orthodox participants on TruthTalk, but none of them lasted very long.  :-)  I think people in those sects of Christianity embrace authority and

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-04 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only frustration with Dave's response is that it includes an insistence that (1) "protestants" are those who are not Mormon DAVEH:   Nonsense, John. Well, I stand corrected.   I guess my may concern, here, is that Mo

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-04-04 Thread Dave Hansen
Lance Muir wrote: Dave:You've been reading TT'ers for a looong time. DAVEH:  It has only been about 5 years now.. To my knowledge there are no Roman Catholic or Orthodox participants.   You ask 'how many Protestants do think alike?" I believe I've witnessed more t

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-30 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  Lance...As much as I'd like to respond to you and John right away, I'm headed to Las Vegas for a few dayshope to get back to you next week. Lance Muir wrote: Dave:You've been reading TT'ers for a looong time. To my knowledge there are no Roman Catholic or Orthod

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-30 Thread Lance Muir
level of diversity exists withink the Mormon community. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 30, 2005 09:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice In a message dated 3/29/2005 10:00:42 PM Pa

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-30 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 3/29/2005 10:00:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the length of this exchange caused some to move on without reading the full exchange, perhaps a second look will be worth the effort.   Much food for thought regarding hell, tor

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-29 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the length of this exchange caused some to move on without reading the full exchange, perhaps a second look will be worth the effort.   Much food for thought regarding hell, torture,  the singleness of the sin event contrasted with the eternity of the punishmen

RE: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-19 Thread Kevin Deegan
re?" Why is it heretical? I would like real reasons, not just some pat cliches you are repeating from what you have read on anit-Mormon sites.>From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>Subject: [TruthTalk] Loving

RE: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
not just some pat cliches you are repeating from what you have read on anit-Mormon sites. >From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org >Subject: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice >Date: Tue, 15 Mar

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-18 Thread Knpraise
in to study the Bible in light of itself, not extrabiblical LDS references, you would come to a clear understanding of what God has revealed to us about his nature. From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk

Re: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-18 Thread Dave Hansen
ly-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:37:36 -0800 Charles Perry Locke wrote: Dave wrote:    I think one of the bigges

RE: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-16 Thread Charles Perry Locke
to us about his nature. From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:37:36 -0800 Charles Perry Locke wrote: Dave wrote: I think one of the b

[TruthTalk] Loving and Merciful God of Justice

2005-03-15 Thread Dave Hansen
Charles Perry Locke wrote: Dave wrote:    I think one of the biggest /problems /(if that is the proper word to use) I have with Protestantism is their view of hell and damnation.  I've said it before, but for some of you who are a bit new to TT, I'll give you a brief explanation.  It