I can align myself with that.
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From:
Slade
Henson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 20:30
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Best I
can come up with is someone who favors progress or reform
be it religious or
semper reformanda
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From:
Slade
Henson
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 20:30
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Best I
can come up with is someone who favors progress or reform
be it religious or
political
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:59:47 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 8/24/2004 12:26:59 PM
Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:There is no spiritual discernment at all outside of the
ministry of the Holy Spirit John.Since
"spiritual discernment" is something
In a message dated 8/25/2004 12:51:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 8/24/2004 12:26:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is no spiritual discernment at all outside of the ministry of the Holy Spirit John.
Since "spiritual discernme
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 02:47:03 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 8/24/2004 12:26:59 PM
Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:There is no spiritual discernment at all outside of the
ministry of the Holy Spirit John.
Since "spiritual discernment" is something
In a message dated 8/24/2004 12:26:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There is no spiritual discernment at all outside of the ministry of the Holy Spirit John.
Since "spiritual discernment" is something other than discerning right and wrong, what inthe world are you talking ab
In a message dated 8/24/2004 7:42:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry, I should have thrown in a few smiley facesâI was laughing out loud when I sent some of them. Maybe itâs time for another truce, Lance? You stop attacking things I care about and Iâll stop calling you a
In a message dated 8/24/2004 5:28:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Best I can come up with is someone who favors progress or reformâ be it religious or political in nature.
by jove, I have plugged this into a number of accustions and it works!!
Juanitos
In a message dated 8/24/2004 4:19:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PS, FYI Lance and I talked very amicably on the phone today. We razz each other on TT worse than it appears.
Keep the rest of us in mind regarding your mutual love fest.
Smitty
In a message dated 8/24/2004 3:43:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I wonder if God really meant that stuff about "Love your neighbor?"
Maybe we could all stop and think about that a moment.
Goat ropers, used car salesmen, and even liberals should be treated with at least a s
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
6:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Terry, are you saying you think Lance is
correct in his blanket defamation of our founding fathers? Izzy
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Terry, are
you saying you think Lance is
correct in his blanket defamation of our founding fathers? Izzy
I am not certain
that Lance has ever been correct about anything. I am simply sa
: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
In a
message dated 8/24/2004 8:39:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Iz:I'm
really NOT a liberal just someone who doesn't want to unthinkingly
(uncritically) buy into the 'party line'.
Just wondering ifthe
In a message dated 8/24/2004 8:39:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Iz:I'm really NOT a liberal just someone who doesn't want to unthinkingly (uncritically) buy into the 'party line'.
Just wondering ifthere is a good working definition for "liberal."
John
Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
3:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Liberal
baloney. You must be reading those liberal revisionist history books
again. Iz
I wonder if God
really meant that stuff about
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Liberal
baloney. You must be reading
those liberal revisionist history books again. Iz
I wonder if God really meant that
stuff about "Love your neighbor?"
Maybe we could all stop and think about that a moment.
Goat ropers, used ca
Same to ya.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
2:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Iz:One is constantly taken aback at your skill literarily
and politically.The
Jt:As you know I was addressing the issue of the
'founding fathers'. You're slippery, Judge Judy.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 16:22
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
T
Of Lance MuirSent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
12:21 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Iz:Of course but, tell me
your responses to what I wrote.
-
accusation you must, from now on,
include your “reliable” sources. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
2:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Jt:No surprise, I'
you know that I'm correct on
this.
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From: ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August
24, 2004 15:09
Subject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Smithson and Kruger
Ahh, I just
fin
---
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 15:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:26:06 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Iz:It matters not what I think re: what America
Liberal baloney. You must be reading
those liberal revisionist history books again. Iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
1:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lance
MuirSent: Tuesday, August
24, 2004 12:21 PMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Iz:Of course but, tell me your
responses to what I wrote.
needn't concern yourself.
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 14:30
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
What ha
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:08:32 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 8/24/2004 6:56:18 AM Pacific
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:jt: One of
the gifts Jesus left the body of Christ at His ascension is spiritual
discernment. Also we (in the body of Christ) can exe
rrect on
this.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 15:09
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Ahh, I just finished
the last touches on restoring (as much as possible) a very worn old quilt for
a Jewish w
Olympics
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 15:11
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
In the dentists
office? I hope one was not the dentist! Iz
I thought of you while
In the dentist’s office? I hope one
was not the dentist! Iz
I thought of you while sitting in the dentist's chair on
Monday. There were these two very tough and somewhat angry women wrestling.
America was built upon and stands
for today.
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
12:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Iz:Of course but, tell me your responses to what I
In a message dated 8/24/2004 6:56:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: One of the gifts Jesus left the body of Christ at His ascension is spiritual discernment. Also we can exercise our senses to discern both good and evil. Your mind is obviously not presently working along t
hit whether people to the right of
Genghis Kahn agree.
I thought of you while sitting in the dentist's
chair on Monday. There were these two very tough and somewhat angry women
wrestling.
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 14:52
Subject:
]
Sent: August 24, 2004 14:30
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
What have we here Lance - a little boy seeking
approval?
Where did your focus on different proclivities
go? jt
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:21:20 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAI
ugust 24, 2004 14:30
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
What have we here Lance - a little boy seeking
approval?
Where did your focus on different proclivities
go? jt
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 14:21:20 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
Iz:O
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 14:04
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Lance, I think
weve only skimmed the surface
..Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hear you Slade and thanks for the input.
jt
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:41:19 -0400 "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
No "proclivity" is
not a Biblical word. It may be a theological term used by your mentors.
It comes from the Latin Proclivis (n) meaning inclined, a natura
Iz:Of course but, tell me your responses to what I
wrote.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 14:04
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Lance, I think weve
only skimmed the surface
..Izzy
Lance, I think we’ve only skimmed
the surface…..Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
11:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Iz:Better, I think, to illustrate
l Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 11:48
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Lance, Kindly tell me
how you think you actually differ from a liberal. (This will be interesting.)
Izzy
From: [EMAIL P
ubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Funny, youre the one
who keeps bringing up politics. (Scary is right!)
Iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirSent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 9:42
AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re:
Funny, you’re the one who keeps
bringing up politics. (Scary is right!) Iz
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
9:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Iz:I'm act
Lance, Kindly tell me how you think you
actually differ from a liberal. (This will be interesting.) Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
9:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Lance
MuirSent: Tuesday, August
24, 2004 8:23 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Iz:Got the message from both
(you & Jes
: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
No "proclivity" is
not a Biblical word. It may be a theological term used by your mentors.
It comes from the Latin Proclivis (n) meaning inclined, a natural propensity
or inclination
Please remember
King James English did not rain
Iz:I'm really NOT a liberal just someone who
doesn't want to unthinkingly (uncritically) buy into the 'party
line'.
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From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 10:42
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Sm
]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Iz:Got the message from both (you & Jesus) loud and
clear.
It'll take some time to sort out the 'lib' characterization
which appears to be synonymous with being Canadian. Relax and have a nice
orange for a snack today.
No
"proclivity" is not a Biblical word. It may be a theological term
used by your mentors. It comes from the Latin Proclivis (n) meaning
inclined, a natural propensity or inclination
Please remember King James English did not rain down from the
Mountain. No English or Latin word are “
ng to
say)
Lance
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 09:23
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
To Lance, from Jesus (and
Izzy):
Matt 8:
16 "You will (14)
know them by their fruits.
-part documentary entitled "The Corporation".
Please take note of the systemic effects of
evil.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 19:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruge
enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004
4:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Li
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:45:40 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt:One cannot help but commend you on your
thoroughness. I suspect that you are the reigning 'diva' of your bible study
group.
jt: I have no group as of right
now, it's summer break, and there is n
t hand? Was
that God? Was that also the resurrected, glorified MAN, Jesus?
Who was excluded, out of hand, in this 'vicarious
life, death, resurrection and, ascension of Jesus?
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004
nd, tell me why you believe this
to be so.
thanks,
Lance
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 24, 2004 07:19
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
It all goes back to your favorite word Lance - It's
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 23:16:33 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 8/23/2004 5:50:24 AM Pacific
Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:27:45
EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Just
finished reading two books: one is The Great Dance, by Kruger and the
inal Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 19:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
In Barbarians at the Gate, the fall of RJR Nabisco - Here is the
situation. The CEO's of some of these corporat
s of
evil.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 19:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
In Barbarians at the Gate, the fall of RJR Nabisco - Here is the situation.
The CEO's of some of these corporations
ment proferred inserting any name (i.e.
Judy, Linda) and any belief..Find anyone informed by anything whom you don't
care for thus
Is this approximately correct?
Sent: August 23, 2004 19:55
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Lance, you are the
perfect poster
In a message dated 8/23/2004 5:50:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:27:45 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just finished reading two books: one is The Great Dance, by Kruger and the second, the Letter to the Ephesians, by Paul. --- all of it is a
ite a
column in the local paper. I'm sure to could bring the nation back from the
abyss.
- Original Message -
From: Judy Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004
14:11
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Smithson and Kruger
This is plain old n
Judy Taylor wrote:
In Barbarians at the Gate, the fall of RJR Nabisco - Here is the
situation. The CEO's of some of these corporations get greedy and
decide that making millions per year and having a fleet of their own
jets - is not enough. They want to borrow money and buy the
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 14:46
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Back to the garden .. and you incarnationists don't
believe that because of Adam sin passed to ALL men.
First thing he did was try to avoid responsibi
Jt:Just keep 'slip slidin away' from
reality.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 14:46
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Back to the garden .. and you incarnationists don't
belie
mn in the local paper. I'm sure to could
bring the nation back from the abyss.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 14:11
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
This is plain o
n the local paper. I'm sure to could bring the nation back from the
abyss.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 14:11
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
This is plain old nasty Lance. I don't consig
You’re just as sweet as ever, Lance.
Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004
12:01 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Iz:Actually I can and, it's huge. That ho
rt
so, in the future I'll take more care with you. (unless it's political
and, you're paying homage to GWB - 'kissing his ring and such')
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 12:27
Su
ore sensitive are hurt so,
in the future I'll take more care with you. (unless it's political and,
you're paying homage to GWB - 'kissing his ring and such')
- Original Message -
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004
Right, Lance. You can’t see the log
in your own eye. Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:58
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
and Kruger
Iz:Ouch!! What I undertook to
o: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 11:31
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Lance, It would be
nice if the beliefs that folks incorporate from Kruger and such made them
more Christ like, as a testimony to their truth.
Izzy
elt is the way
that I and others have felt when subjected to same ill-informed and rather
unkind comments.
From:
ShieldsFamily
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 11:31
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
Lance, It would be
nice if the beliefs that fol
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John:We read everything with the eyes of a pre-existing
understanding. That 'reading' includes of vocabulary of our tradition. That
'reading' includes the distinctive meaning we invest into Scripture and, draw
from Scri
Jt:No to the Bill & Jonathan guesses. Yes to
the rest though I would not choose words as harsh sounding as the ones you
chose.
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 10:06
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 09:46:31 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt:Thanks for the morning smile. 'Oh that God the
gift would give us to see ourselves as others see us'
jt: Robert Burns, Freemason,
philosopher, who BTW is referring to a different god.
Lance, L
anymore as I've come to acknowledge that this is who you are (were & will
be). I anticipate no change in your demenour. That's OK sister!
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 08:09
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 23:27:45 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just finished reading two books: one is The Great Dance, by Kruger and
the second, the Letter to the Ephesians, by Paul.
--- all of it is a little overwhelming. Much
insight and some questions. I will say tha
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 07:13:56 -0400 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jt:Very, very, very sadly: to demonstrate:
1. I and, perhaps several other participants on
TT could have approximated your post in response to the Smithmeister.
jt: But Lance I have
not as
't fight
grace embrace it.
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: August 23, 2004 06:45
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Smithson and
Kruger
By your statements below Lance, could I safely assume
that you do not believe God is able to reveal Himself to us by w
By your statements below Lance, could I safely assume
that you do not believe God is able to reveal Himself to us by way of His
Written Word because of the power of pre existing bias? I find this
amazing in light of what you posted yesterday. The God who is able to
supernaturally deliver an
John:We read everything with the eyes of a
pre-existing understanding. That 'reading' includes of vocabulary of our
tradition. That 'reading' includes the distinctive meaning we invest into
Scripture and, draw from Scripture.Standing under the scriptures in order
that the Living Word (our ma
Just finished reading two books: one is The Great Dance, by Kruger and the second, the Letter to the Ephesians, by Paul. --- all of it is a little overwhelming. Much insight and some questions.
I will say that Kruger is no theological liberal. At least, not according to my under
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