[TV orNotTV] Re: namedroppers

An apparently knowledgeable commenter on BoingBoing (and reposted at Slashdot) says there's another, very different side to this story: *** Here (with his permission) is a comment from Stan Taffel, who is a media preservationist and posted this to the Association of Moving Image Archivists listser

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

Edd Hall returns to Dave: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/19/video-letterman-fake-tonight-show-with-jay-leno-promo/39401 -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send ema

Re: [TV orNotTV] ABC trusts the enemy...

I saw the legal counsel for cafe press speak at a local law school They've done this before. Twilight is an example http://shop.cafepress.com/twilight-movie They already have the Lost store http://shop.cafepress.com/losttv Though I don't think NBC made a deal for them to sell Team Conan s

[TV orNotTV] Another MTV star attacked

Farrah Abraham, one of four goils featured in "Teen Mom", gets throttled and smacked by her mother, Debra Danielson, in their Iowa home... had the cameras left for the day? http://www.southwestiowanews.com/articles/2010/01/19/council_bluffs/doc4b5494ad23775112133863.txt -- BOB -- TV or Not TV

[TV orNotTV] Re: And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

On Jan 19, 6:31 pm, "Mark J." wrote: > > Oh, is "Glee" a reality show? It will be soon. FOX is going to use a limited run reality series to find new cast members. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not

Re: [TV orNotTV] ABC trusts the enemy...

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: > ...or so it was once dubbed by Kevin here. > > ABC AND CAFE PRESS FORM VISIONARY RELATIONSHIP TO LET VIEWERS TAKE THE > REINS TO CREATE AUTHORIZED SHOW MERCHANDISE That's fine. Viewers will create and order a Scrubs t-shirt and receive a soi

[TV orNotTV] ABC trusts the enemy...

...or so it was once dubbed by Kevin here. ABC AND CAFE PRESS FORM VISIONARY RELATIONSHIP TO LET VIEWERS TAKE THE REINS TO CREATE AUTHORIZED SHOW MERCHANDISE http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20100119abc02 -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this messag

[TV orNotTV] Re: Bam sets State-of date

IYC, the lengths of previous SOTUs and first-year-in-office thingies, from a West Coast university's archive of those and other Prez stuff... http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/sou_minutes.php -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscrib

[TV orNotTV] Re: Bam sets State-of date

All four bigs, per TFC, slated two-hour winders for the speech and subsequent punditry, prolly expecting a preceding resolution of the health-care sitch. -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not T

[TV orNotTV] Re: ai on hulu

I'd go with music rights being the reason. SNL doesn't post their musical segments on Hulu, and that's the reason they use. On Jan 19, 3:26 pm, jeffrey marousek wrote: > I have some friends that have told me HULU doesn't put AI on their site.  Is > there a reason for that? > > Jeff -- TV or Not

[TV orNotTV] Performers named, more nets added for Friday Haiti 'raiser

Bruce is among those joining Wyclef in NY; a unique trio highlights LA; and Jay-Z and Rihanna join Bono and The Edge in London...Mother Jersey can prolly still watch HGTV... http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20100119mtv01 -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You r

Re: [TV orNotTV] Bam sets State-of date

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: > Futon: Human Target gets moved UP a day to Tuesday at 8...Ramsay's > Nightmares pushed back a week. (Leno benched.) Leno benched? But Obama isn't going to say anything new. I thought Leno's show was designed to get better ratings when up aga

[TV orNotTV] Bam sets State-of date

Next Wednesday (27), 9 east. Fox moves Idol up to 8. Futon: Human Target gets moved UP a day to Tuesday at 8...Ramsay's Nightmares pushed back a week. (Leno benched.) http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?date=01/19/10&id=8485 -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You receiv

[TV orNotTV] Re: Spenser no longer for hire. RIP Robert Parker

On Jan 19, 3:26 pm, Joe Coughlin wrote: > Robert Parker, author of the Spenser and Jesse Stone detective series, has > died, aged 77. > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/ap_en_ot/us_obit_robert_parker This is a tragedy for me too. I've read nearly 40 of Parker's 65 nov

[TV orNotTV] Re: And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

Kevin M., to M-D November, in part: > Having enjoyed both the most recent X-Files movie and the earlier > feature film from the series, and having enjoyed the series, as well > as Millennium (and not disliking Lone Gunmen), where is Chris Carter > in the world of modern television? He's been in h

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > Just watched the Rose/Zucker interview. Some thoughts: > > Zucker is now indistinguishable from Ari Fleischer in appearance and > mannerisms, and I'm not unconvinced they're the same person expunging > the same hot air. > > Ever bland, Rose asked

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:36 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: > Since Ari Fleischer is now flacking for the folks behind Bowl Championship > Series, I think Kevin's concerns are well grounded. > > Have the affiliates really banded together to put Leno back at 11:35? > Methinks Kevin has been well and d

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:36 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: > Since Ari Fleischer is now flacking for the folks behind Bowl Championship > Series, I think Kevin's concerns are well grounded. > > Have the affiliates really banded together to put Leno back at 11:35? > Methinks Kevin has been well and du

Re: [TV orNotTV] Spenser no longer for hire. RIP Robert Parker

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:40 PM, PGage wrote: > the Spencer universe will always have fond associations for me. That's Spenser with an S, like the poet -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "T

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: namedroppers

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: > > This is the only thing I hate about TVWeek...they could've made their > headlines a helluvalot pithier... > > The Post's actual HL: "CBS benches Jack Benny". > And why do they need to use Johnny Carson to reference Jack Benny? Wouldn't any

Re: [TV orNotTV] Spenser no longer for hire. RIP Robert Parker

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > This is a genuine tragedy for me... love the author's work. I know he > wrote four or five books a year and rarely published that many, so > there is a backlog of work to enjoy, but this is still sad news. > Sad for me too. When my wife and I f

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

Since Ari Fleischer is now flacking for the folks behind Bowl Championship Series, I think Kevin's concerns are well grounded. Have the affiliates really banded together to put Leno back at 11:35? Methinks Kevin has been well and duly Zucked, and in a creepy way. I thought the affiliates were

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

Just watched the Rose/Zucker interview. Some thoughts: Zucker is now indistinguishable from Ari Fleischer in appearance and mannerisms, and I'm not unconvinced they're the same person expunging the same hot air. Ever bland, Rose asked the traditional questions with no followups and brought no kno

Re: [TV orNotTV] A Big Bang scene without a laugh track

While I agree it's a stupid idea and a stupid example, I'll note that as much as I love TBBT, there are times in which I dislike the use of the studio audience, especially when its used as a laugh-cue (on a sight gag, for instance). The best opposite-example, if you care to look it up, is on The Ba

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

I never really pictured Zucker as the "Captain America" type. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Steve Rhodes wrote: > > King Zucker + the Soldier (after Suzanne Vega) by Matt Besser of the Upright > Citizens Brigade > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXzdFTcW0LU > And the animated news version of th

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

King Zucker + the Soldier (after Suzanne Vega) by Matt Besser of the Upright Citizens Brigade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXzdFTcW0LU And the animated news version of the saga http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9m1an-pQ8 they are now also doing versions of some with english voiceovers http://

[TV orNotTV] Re: And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

On Jan 19, 12:59 pm, David Bruggeman wrote: > Arguably Fox has been supporting Fringe, as much as Fox supports anything > that isn't a reality program.  I'll defer to others about the idea that > Fringe is a retread of X-Files, with a few more science fiction tropes thrown > in (alternate uni

[TV orNotTV] Re: Fwd: AFA action alert - Sacha Baron Cohen to guide Simpsons in Israel this Easter

On Jan 19, 3:33 pm, jeffrey marousek wrote: > i sent them (AFA - million hormones division) an email that the sipmsons was > good enough for the vatican, so what right did they have to say it wasn't. Along the same lines, the blog of the right-wing Media Research Center (I refuse to link to the

[TV orNotTV] Re: namedroppers

On Jan 19, 5:07 pm, Bob in Jersey wrote: > This is the only thing I hate about TVWeek...they could've made their > headlines a helluvalot pithier... > > The Post's actual HL: "CBS benches Jack Benny". > > Why would they have music issues? If the shows are damn-well PD, > wouldn't the music be as

[TV orNotTV] Re: namedroppers

This is the only thing I hate about TVWeek...they could've made their headlines a helluvalot pithier... The Post's actual HL: "CBS benches Jack Benny". Why would they have music issues? If the shows are damn-well PD, wouldn't the music be as well? -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV

[TV orNotTV] Re: A Big Bang scene without a laugh track

> http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/ That's just strange... -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from

[TV orNotTV] OT: I got new glasses...

...so I replaced the pic of myself in Files. (The older, JPEG one is gone) http://tvornottv.googlegroups.com/web/bob-in-jersey.gif -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to th

Re: [TV orNotTV] Spenser no longer for hire. RIP Robert Parker

A few memorable lines of dialogue from Parker's characters, either from the Spenser books or the TV series (most of them from both): Spenser... "I used to think that the most dangerous thing in the world was an idiot with a loaded gun. Now, I knew better. It's an idiot with a loaded gun and a pre

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Fwd: AFA action alert - Sacha Baron Cohen to guide Simpsons in Israel this Easter

i sent them (AFA - million hormones division) an email that the sipmsons was good enough for the vatican, so what right did they have to say it wasn't. jeff On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Wrecks wrote: > Here are the questions that I imagine the AFA asked before writing > that news release. >

[TV orNotTV] Re: Fwd: AFA action alert - Sacha Baron Cohen to guide Simpsons in Israel this Easter

Here are the questions that I imagine the AFA asked before writing that news release. 1. Is The Simpsons really still on the air? 2. If it is, how come they haven't done this before? 3. Do you think we can find anybody who actually watches the show? -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) Peo

[TV orNotTV] Re: And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

I'd much prefer an in-canon follow-up to "Torchwood: Children of Earth," the best thing that's come out of the concept so far. (Worth a look if only for a phenomenal performance by Peter Capaldi, who, if there was any justice, would get a supporting-actor Oscar nom this year for his work in the und

[TV orNotTV] Re: Fwd: AFA action alert - Sacha Baron Cohen to guide Simpsons in Israel this Easter

Oy! (Can't wait.) On Jan 19, 9:19 am, Steve Rhodes wrote: >  Oh thee of little realization that they're just going to increase the > ratings... > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: OneMillionMoms.com > Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:45 AM > Subject: Sacha Baron Cohen to guide Si

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

Here’s the thing about Leno: He’s a politician. He thinks and acts like a politician every single second of his life. Ratings are his votes. If you view Leno as a politician everything he does suddenly makes sense. He is always in campaign mode. He hits the road pressing the flesh all the time. Ev

Re: [TV orNotTV] namedroppers

Bill Maher is also a longtime fan of Banny's, to the point where he recreates Benny's facial expressions and mannerisms during performances and interviews (the way he mugs the camera/audience is nearly exact to what Benny used to do. I miss the old KNX vintage radio hour which featured Benny's sho

Re: [TV orNotTV] ai on hulu

Makes sense to me. i work with a guy who used to do the music rights work for Paul Schaeffer, and he has told many nightmare stories about that. Me, I don't care. I have a teen-aged daughter at home so I am not allowed to miss it! Jeff On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Joe Coughlin wrote: > Pe

Re: [TV orNotTV] Spenser no longer for hire. RIP Robert Parker

Spenser and Jesse Stone detective series, has > died, aged 77. > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/ap_en_ot/us_obit_robert_parker > > Both Stone and Spenser have been adapter for the small screen. A new Stone > novel is due out soon and more Spenser books are completed

Re: [TV orNotTV] ai on hulu

Perhaps it has something to do with music rights? Of course, AI is popular enough that it doesn't need the extra outlet, so it could be that 19 Entertainment doesn't care to do it. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 3:26 PM, jeffrey marousek wrote: > I have some friends that have told me HULU doesn't put AI

[TV orNotTV] Spenser no longer for hire. RIP Robert Parker

Robert Parker, author of the Spenser and Jesse Stone detective series, has died, aged 77. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/ap_en_ot/us_obit_robert_parker Both Stone and Spenser have been adapter for the small screen. A new Stone novel is due out soon and more Spenser books are completed and

[TV orNotTV] ai on hulu

I have some friends that have told me HULU doesn't put AI on their site. Is there a reason for that? Jeff -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@

Re: [TV orNotTV] Hollywood is out of Ideas: Part 33

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:12 AM, David Lynch wrote: > > Does "Not the worst movie ever" actually count as positive? > > I can see it on the movie poster. > > As I understand the character (and I think I learned all I need to > know from the Pep

[TV orNotTV] namedroppers

NY Post headline: CBS Won't Let Episodes of Show Starring One of Johnny Carson's Idols Be Put Out On DVDs They thought they could hook this to the late-night situation (brouhaha, by the way, is how you spell it)? http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2010/01/cbs-nixes-unearthed-jack-benny.php --

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

I guess most people just read Leno's remarks or watched a video: "Jay Leno Show" (4.6 million, 1.3) was down 19%. http://thrfeed.com/2010/01/monday-ratings-24-slips-bachelor-grows-life-solid-.html And Conan continues to do well: "Tonight" averaged a 1.8 rating in Nielsen's 25 metered markets w

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

Arguably Fox has been supporting Fringe, as much as Fox supports anything that isn't a reality program. I'll defer to others about the idea that Fringe is a retread of X-Files, with a few more science fiction tropes thrown in (alternate universes among them). And yes, Futurama counts. David

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

My guess is that someone in legal convinced them that it wasn't a question of asking O'Brien as much as telling him he's going to 12:05. I don't think NBC was far-sighted enough to imagine what this has turned out to be. And I'd also guess that there was a group of affiliates who were ready to anno

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

> I'm honestly not sure why FOX even bothers with sci-fi anymore.  They > haven't shown any interest in growing a sci-fi show since The X- > Files. Having enjoyed both the most recent X-Files movie and the earlier feature film from the series, and having enjoyed the series, as well as Millennium (

[TV orNotTV] Re: And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

The "Who" movie from the mid-90s was a co-production between FOX and the BBC. Even then, they could have retconned it out of canon at the beginning of the RTD era if not for the fact that, in the FOX movie, Sylvester McCoy (7) regenerates into Paul McGann (8). That direct handoff means McGann sta

Re: [TV orNotTV] Hollywood is out of Ideas: Part 33

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:12 AM, David Lynch wrote: > Does "Not the worst movie ever" actually count as positive? I can see it on the movie poster. As I understand the character (and I think I learned all I need to know from the Pepsi commercial), Macgruber dies at the end of every "mission" or

Re: [TV orNotTV] And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

While some of the folks behind the current Torchwood are attached, the show was not as global or as globe-trotting as DW. I'm a bit skeptical it would do better on Fox than continued episodes on BBCAmerica. But the Fox Doctor Who movie is part of accepted Who lore, so they might pull this off.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

Another one is why didn't Leno say what he said Monday night sometime last week? While the Chief would still be acting like Leno peed in his milk (when did he turn the corner, exactly), saying something nice about Conan earlier in the process would have diminished the bile, if just a little. D

Re: [TV orNotTV] Hollywood is out of Ideas: Part 33

Does "Not the worst movie ever" actually count as positive? On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:00, David Bruggeman wrote: > What was the last SNL-related concept to become a successful film?  Wayne's > World? > > Upside?  I can now have a positive thought about "A Night at the Roxbury" > > David > >

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

One question is why didn't NBC ask Conan if he would move to midnight before announcing it. I realize the leak made them make an announcement before they planned to (though they would have gotten a lot of questions at TCA even if it hadn't), but they could have delayed a day and asked Conan. I

Re: [TV orNotTV] Hollywood is out of Ideas: Part 33

What was the last SNL-related concept to become a successful film? Wayne's World? Upside? I can now have a positive thought about "A Night at the Roxbury" David From: Jason Carpio http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62492 Really didn't know

[TV orNotTV] And the next British series getting the eye from America is...

... ... Torchwood. Well, if Fox did Doctor Who before... http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/19/fox-considering-us-version-of-torchwood-but/39290?utm_medium=awe.sm-facebook-post&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=sociable-wordpress ~D -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received

[TV orNotTV] Hollywood is out of Ideas: Part 33

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62492 Really didn't know this existed until today. NSFW for those wondering -- Jason Carpio jcar...@gmail.com Not sent from an iPhone -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You rece

[TV orNotTV] Fwd: AFA action alert - Sacha Baron Cohen to guide Simpsons in Israel this Easter

Oh thee of little realization that they're just going to increase the ratings... -- Forwarded message -- From: OneMillionMoms.com Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:45 AM Subject: Sacha Baron Cohen to guide Simpsons in Israel this Easter [image: One Million Moms.com]

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Ebersol: "What this is really all about is an astounding failure by Conan"

That was, indeed, brilliant beyond description. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:30 AM, PGage wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:25 PM, donz5 wrote: >> >> Dave responds to Ebersol: >> >> http://www.facebook.com/Letterman/posts/286004230347 > > And that is why mine will always be a Dave household... --

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

> The choice where there is some > question is, 3b; Once they decide in January of 2010 to cancel Leno in > primetime, could they have: 1) severed ties with Leno (eating a substantial > penalty to him) and keeping Conan at Tonight Show; 2) severed ties with > Conan (eating a substantial penalty to