[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-20 Thread Diner
On Jan 20, 8:01 pm, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote: Dave: That's right. They wanted to avoid another transitional brouhaha, if I can invoke a little French. So last night Jay gave his state of the network speech. (Laughter applause) And I saw...and he said we should not blame Conan for

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread Steve Rhodes
One question is why didn't NBC ask Conan if he would move to midnight before announcing it. I realize the leak made them make an announcement before they planned to (though they would have gotten a lot of questions at TCA even if it hadn't), but they could have delayed a day and asked Conan.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread David Bruggeman
Another one is why didn't Leno say what he said Monday night sometime last week? While the Chief would still be acting like Leno peed in his milk (when did he turn the corner, exactly), saying something nice about Conan earlier in the process would have diminished the bile, if just a little.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread Joe Hass
My guess is that someone in legal convinced them that it wasn't a question of asking O'Brien as much as telling him he's going to 12:05. I don't think NBC was far-sighted enough to imagine what this has turned out to be. And I'd also guess that there was a group of affiliates who were ready to

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread Steve Rhodes
I guess most people just read Leno's remarks or watched a video: Jay Leno Show (4.6 million, 1.3) was down 19%. http://thrfeed.com/2010/01/monday-ratings-24-slips-bachelor-grows-life-solid-.html And Conan continues to do well: Tonight averaged a 1.8 rating in Nielsen's 25 metered markets with

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread Gary
Here’s the thing about Leno: He’s a politician. He thinks and acts like a politician every single second of his life. Ratings are his votes. If you view Leno as a politician everything he does suddenly makes sense. He is always in campaign mode. He hits the road pressing the flesh all the time.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread Steve Rhodes
King Zucker + the Soldier (after Suzanne Vega) by Matt Besser of the Upright Citizens Brigade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXzdFTcW0LU And the animated news version of the saga http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9m1an-pQ8 they are now also doing versions of some with english voiceovers

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread Joe Hass
I never really pictured Zucker as the Captain America type. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Steve Rhodes srho...@gmail.com wrote: King Zucker + the Soldier (after Suzanne Vega) by Matt Besser of the Upright Citizens Brigade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXzdFTcW0LU And the animated news

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread Kevin M.
Just watched the Rose/Zucker interview. Some thoughts: Zucker is now indistinguishable from Ari Fleischer in appearance and mannerisms, and I'm not unconvinced they're the same person expunging the same hot air. Ever bland, Rose asked the traditional questions with no followups and brought no

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread David Bruggeman
Since Ari Fleischer is now flacking for the folks behind Bowl Championship Series, I think Kevin's concerns are well grounded. Have the affiliates really banded together to put Leno back at 11:35? Methinks Kevin has been well and duly Zucked, and in a creepy way. I thought the affiliates

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:36 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Since Ari Fleischer is now flacking for the folks behind Bowl Championship Series, I think Kevin's concerns are well grounded. Have the affiliates really banded together to put Leno back at 11:35? Methinks Kevin has been

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:36 PM, David Bruggeman bru...@yahoo.com wrote: Since Ari Fleischer is now flacking for the folks behind Bowl Championship Series, I think Kevin's concerns are well grounded. Have the affiliates really banded together to put Leno back at 11:35? Methinks Kevin has

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread PGage
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote: Just watched the Rose/Zucker interview. Some thoughts: Zucker is now indistinguishable from Ari Fleischer in appearance and mannerisms, and I'm not unconvinced they're the same person expunging the same hot air. Ever

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-19 Thread donz5
Edd Hall returns to Dave: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/01/19/video-letterman-fake-tonight-show-with-jay-leno-promo/39401 -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TV or Not TV group. To post to this group, send

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno tells his side of the story Monday night

2010-01-18 Thread donz5
Also revisionist history: 2004: I said, well, I ve been number one for 12 years. Dave's LS trounced Jay's TS during LS's first two years. It was in 1995 when Jay first surpassed Dave in the ratings. Odd that Jay needs to beef up his acknowledged impressive record by adding three years to it.