> are you sure this example of yours makes sense? I mean, are you saying
> that DRM happens because proprietary software exists? I am not sure I
> follow you here.
> Marco
Not to mention a blanket-statement like this is FUD that the Internet
slams corporations for.
I'll probably not be able to answer every single point every person
makes on this thread, but I'll start to try to help refine my overall
intent here:
> First I have to note that I see a general problem with the term
> marketing. Out of Product, Price, Place, Promotion, it seems to me that
> only
n begin to truly change the way the world thinks
about their choices in the world of computers. I hope you realize
that every one of you is capable of leading this charge and you have
the power to make change happen right here, right now, and for the
better.
Good luck, and I wish you all the ver
thing like this actually would require a budget,
planning, and subsequent planning how each "case" was really Ubuntu
for the masses. But it would help to define a more authentic branding
that doesn't have to associate with other products in the same niche
for recognition.
John Vils
elp to define a more authentic branding
that doesn't have to associate with other products in the same niche
for recognition.
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Doesn't that seem sort of hypocritical since you just said that a list
that had "2) The under-served. They haven't quite figured out how to
make their computers work for them and just want something simple."
was 'Awesome?'
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 11:08 PM, jared wrote:
>
> You just described a h
till took them years to find a
message they could use on a global scale to counter the damage Apple did
with their ads.
John Vilsack
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 4:20 PM, Paul Schulz wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> In Australia we are seeing the "I'm a PC and Windows 7 was my idea"
&g
YOUR* expectations.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 10:26 -0600, John Vilsack wrote:
> > Great idea, but the question nobody seems to be asking is "Why?"
>
> Because it's not been done before, and it needs trying.
>
>
Great idea, but the question nobody seems to be asking is "Why?"
When allocating time and resources to a project, you have to have a goal of
what you wish to accomplish with it. What is the end result you wish to
see? How are you going to get the video "viral"?
How are you going to get the vide
changes should be at a minimum, I should have more
time to work on the getting something back to the group.
Talk with you all soon!
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I agree, but I see it more as a difference between Home User, IT Tech,
and Business Decision Maker.
I have something drafted up on this, but I want to hold off and get
some other things implemented first.
John Vilsack
email: jo...@the-house.com
voice: 651-314-9858 (recently updated)
Active
During this evening's meeting, ScottK asked about if the marketing
team supported other distributions of *buntu such as a flavor he's
working on, Kubuntu Netbook.
I told him I would pass the message along to the group. Is this where
other *buntu flavors should come for assistance if they want to
Thanks to all who showed up for this evening's meeting!
At the end, I mentioned what points I felt were made:
1. SpreadUbuntu is a great tool and needs all the love and support it can get.
2. The goal of the reorganization is to get volunteers closer to the
projects and tasks that are out there.
==
For more information on this meeting, please go to:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Reorganization
Hope to see you there!
==
Greetings!
In a few short hours, we will be holding a meeting on
I agree Laura!
We should aim to present a "path" so to speak of the key things people
need to know and learn about Ubuntu to become motivated grassroots
activists.
The simpler we make it (by burying the complex stuff deeper) the more
successful I think this will be!
- John
John Vils
eeting after the UDS meeting.
>
> If not I think it is a good idea to do all those 3 meetings and get
> this team rolling.
>
> I vote for all the proposal combined :-)
>
> R.
> https://launchpad.net/~huayra
>
> 2009/11/4, Paolo Sammicheli :
>> Alle 17:46 del 4/11
I received three personal emails about chooseubuntu.com. Its not a
real website, but I just thought maybe something like that would be a
good tool for IT folks to show businesses about the benefits of
Ubuntu.
Just to be clear :)
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thers were talking about.
I really like the idea of building easy to get to packets that people
could simply click and have access to. Kind of like First Aid kits
for your computer :)
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http://www.the-house.com
2009/11/4 Rubén Romero y Cordero :
> Hei to you all!
>
> On We
t;
meeting about what you all discovered, and how we can convert some of
that into projects? It might be a perfect time to develop some ideas
that allow us to build call to actions for the volunteers to help out
with.
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Forgive me if I wasn't clear in the meeting message: The meeting
itself is really not a big deal.
If you look at the agenda, the agenda is really vague for a reason:
We can never pick one time for everyone to make it, so its almost
pointless to have one.
I wanted to set the date because its a ti
The first step to making Ubuntu Marketing more accessible is to
determine WHY people are interested in Ubuntu Marketing in the first
place. From that point, we can begin creating a more simple structure
to getting people who want to help into the appropriate place faster.
If people come to Ubuntu
> What I didn't understood is who you are? While other poster in this thread are
> well know Ubuntu members with some kind of contribution this is not you.
> Please forgive me and present yourself. Your Launchpad profile lack of
> informations.
Since when does anyone need to prove themselves to yo
To see who has filled out this form, check out:
http://bit.ly/3Y6wUa
or
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtL0i3WC8jUzdGhXTkRjQmJiSjVKeVZGWVo1NFpEeWc&hl=en
Please feel free to email me if you have any questions!
- John Vilsack
PS: I wasn't too keen on using Google, so if a
Matthew,
My ideas on the matter are very similar. There is no need to
"appoint" people into roles of leadership. If people want to sign up
to be leaders, then they should be welcomed with open arms.
Many people just want to give back in some way, and not have the added
responsibility. They jus
you, because I want you to know this. I am tired to
> being too vocal, I like action and you seem to be a guy of action yourself.
>
> Let's do this!
>
> R.
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:11 AM, John Vilsack wrote:
>>
>> While I appreciate all this newfound e
While I appreciate all this newfound enthusiasm about planning,
planning to plan, voting to meet, meeting to vote, and planning to
plan a plan about voting to vote to meet if we need to vote on a
meeting, I'm going to proceed with the meeting on November 11/12.
The idea about organizing the Ubuntu
/11/2 Rubén Romero y Cordero :
>
>
> 2009/11/3 John Vilsack
>>
>> Ok, I wrote up a meeting invite to both Marketing and LoCo. Could
>> someone please adjust the wiki page to reflect this new information?
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Reorgan
Ok, I wrote up a meeting invite to both Marketing and LoCo. Could
someone please adjust the wiki page to reflect this new information?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/Reorganization
I have a good feeling about this. If this plays out without a lot of
friction, this could really take fligh
or the Core team by signing up! We'll be sure to keep
everything open and transparent so everyone can stay informed!
We hope to see you all there, and we hope you'll join us in making
Ubuntu even better!
John Vilsack
Meeting Organizer
See your meeting time here:
http://www.timeand
ecome worried about "messing
up" pages in a wiki.
As for the time of night. seems nice and neutral. Any meeting
time is going to inconvenience someone, somewhere :)
John Vilsack
2009/11/2 Rubén Romero y Cordero :
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:57 AM, John Vilsack wr
Politely, I'm going to run with the idea of a new meeting and hope
that we can work together:
1. Let's schedule the meeting right now for 12-November-09 at
hours (This is November 11th, 7:00PM for Eastern Time Zone). Alan or
Danny, could you please add this to the calendar?
The agenda will c
t to do some coordination and share what works.
>
> Jake
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Martin Owens wrote:
>>
>> Hey John,
>>
>> First, please don't post giant text. Or if you do, make all of your text
>> giant. :-)
>>
>> On Th
ess to the Launchpad for it, if you all want to use
that.
Here's the original message from the last time I tried this :)
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:59:06 -0500
> > "John Vilsack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > In order to help make the Marketing of Ubun
ing, the hive mind needs people to
pull the trigger that can provide direction, proceed with vision, and
deliver excitement to the rest of the group that needs to see some sort of
progress in order to measure its own success.
Until the old guard realizes this, the volunteer marketing group will
contin
This is largely a problem that exists not only with Ubuntu, but with the
Open Source Movement in general.
Last time this conversation came up, there was a large contingent of people
we wished to see a core group of a marketing team come to fruition.
Unfortunately, several of the more active member
The Launchpad is now up and running. Mailing list is in process.
Please feel free to sign up and join!
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we work out the communication
> logistics.
>
> To those people I originally contacted, the courtesy of a reply, even
> to tell me you are not interested, would be appreciated.
>
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 11:59:06 -0500
> "John Vilsack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
Ubuntu Community to spread Ubuntu throughout the world!
Thank you very much,
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st my solution. I hope you all embrace it. This group,
that group, this community...our entire world...they all work best when we
all work together.
Isn't that what this is supposed to be all about?
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important to their
areas.
I think there is a solid base for leadership that has already presented
itself. What I am asking for is for you all to realize that with a little
bit of infrastructure, you can begin rapid development of your own projects
and see clear results sooner than later.
Thanks,
have a read and let me know what you think. I'll post it once the
proposals thread starts, but I think were are waiting on some things still
from Saturday's meeting.
Thanks,
John Vilsack
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Vil
te in public but criticize in private. Keep the
discussion on topic and do not let personal feelings influence your
judgement.
Thanks,
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y can come in and make an immediate impact because they have direction
and know what needs to be done.
Thanks,
John Vilsack
PS: I think it would be remiss for us to begin listing off C.V.s and
historic accomplishments as a means to justify our opinions. Some of the
smartest people I have met i
s and no one person is overwhelmed with so many
things that they burnout.
Thanks,
John Vilsack
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:41 AM, VidA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice work John :)
>
> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:58 AM, John Vilsack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
&
vers a few initial steps. Once the members of the Core
Marketing group are in place, you can be sure that their number one priority
will be to support those gracious enough to spend their time, energy, and
resources on the Ubuntu community.
I hope this helps answer your question!
Thanks,
John Vil
Thank you for the vote of confidence!
My recommendation is to base a quorum on attendance levels. I would use
tommorrow's attendance level as a baseline and then establish that 66% or
greater of that number are needed for votes at the next meeting.
In the event of appointing a Core Marketing Gro
hat I
am always open to hearing what you have to say.
Thank you for your time, and I hope you enjoy the following proposal.
John Vilsack
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Proposal viewable at Google Docs:
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provide the metaphorical armaments for the
average user to become an empowered evangelist.
> Sorry if these questions have been debated here previously. I'm still very
> now to this list.
>
No worries, brother. I think many of us a
budgetary needs we may
have at this time.
Thanks,
John Vilsack
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:21 AM, Mike Feravolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I would be happy to contribute any way that I can to the the marketing
> team.
>
> The increase of traffic on the list is a good
>
>
> That's veeery interesting, as Arte Johnson used to say on Laugh In.
> As soemeone wha has a very strong background in the social sciences, I
> feel that natural selection, for the humans species, is more culturally
> influenced than for say chimps or gorillas. We can control, either
> con
auty of democracy!
Thanks,
John
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> On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 08:45 -0500, John Vilsack wrote:
> > I've also begun listing out the various roles that I envision would be
> > a part of this type of restr
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Council? Is leadership what this group needs above all else?
Thanks,
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On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 12:57 PM, John Botscharow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Jeez, Cory, that one caught me off guard. I am very flattered by your
> question and very honored. Let me hold off
do as they please.
This grassroots model was proven effective in a Presidential campaign I
worked in that had a "global" message team that distributed information to
local grassroots meetups for dissemination. Each group was asked to only
"consider" the information, and it w
> I would draw attention to the nature of much of the marketing creative
> and effort resource - it certainly has a central objective. Canonical
> and the wider set of volunteers have strongly overlapping objectives.
> However, the factors of geographical location, local culture and
> circumstances
erstand how to sell the
idea of Ubuntu to others (in a more finite environment than say the forums
or a mailing list).
Does anyone feel this is a good/bad idea?
Thank you for listening,
John Vilsack
PS: This is my first contribution to the marketing team. I hope to
contribute in any
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