Kipenji,
how low can you go ? Now you're even using God to tell your lies !
...Obote(who unfortunately is not as barbaric as that loving King who
ordered the massacre of innocent people)
What ? Are you talking about the same Obote or you're just ignoring the
bwiino posted here by several
Yaobang,
Why do you day dream? Museveni and the NRM govt are in
power by popular mandate. The people of Uganda will
decide when that mandate will end not you and your
cohorts in UPC.
I can tell you this but post 2006, Museveni will still
be there kiriza oba gana.
You better join the NRMo or you
Mr. Kangwawo:
Mr. Kipenji's crass remarks notwithstanding, the issue of the Uganda Martyrs has been debated, and will be debated, for a long time, by people of varying intellectual capital and viewpoints.
Unfortunately Uganda's education system does not easily lend itself to preparing the general
Lutimba Matovu,
The are many victims, survivors witness who are still in hiding from M7
and the NRM/A, praying for a time when they are safe to talk AND GET
JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS!.
They are all over the world, and the longest are from doubt are Baganda.
They daily recount the most horrific
Netters can we please raise the level of the discourse on this forum?
Uganda's future is bigger than the Obotes and Amins of this world. People
are wasting time defending the indefensible. The facts, whether we want to
believe it or not are that Obote and Amin Presided over some of the most
Emmanuel,
Many of us are now looking beyond Musevenism, defined here as enjoyment to
kill at will and for ever in the interest of personal/family wealth and
political power. Soon the Museveni dictatoriship will fall, just like Amin's
collapsed like a deck of cards in 1979!
y
From: emmanuel
Yaobang you have just rightly stated it.People like the Ssemakulas
of this world are trying to divert attention from what their benevolent
government under Mu7 has been and is doing to Ugandans since 1981
hence his rantings about not forgetting the Luwero Trapezium.
I personally feel based on the
If you have already gone 6 miles to get the truth why on God's good
earth stop instead of going the full 9 miles and get that which you have
already set out to prove?.
I hope you are not being intellectually dishonest and now you want to acquire knowledge passively.
Thanks.Kipenji.
Mr. Y:
It is plain as day that Uganda's troubles today are firmly rooted in Obote's abuse of power and office. It was the UPC and Obote who startedUganda on the path of political murder and state inspired violence against the populace.
Until and unless wenot only accept that simple but
Mark these words:
We appear to be at
different orbitals in addressing the biggest issues
that is destroying Uganda by courtesy of the
Baganda through Mu7.
Thanks.
Kipenji.
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Lisa,
Read the facts for yourself what your hero did to
Ugandans.
The second reign of MILTON OBOTE as President of
Uganda (1980-1985) is thought to have even exceeded
the brutality of the Amin era. Estimates of civilians
killed by Obote's forces in the Luwero triangle around
the capital,
Brother Semakula,
Did Obote go to the HRM the queen of England to
plead for arms? Before that Buganda had long used guns to gain the Bunyoro Land
what later became the lost counties, hence the quest for armsfrom
the queen to gain back the land!!!
Yours i pathological!! give it a break, you
Mr. Kipenji,
Are you insinuating that the Baganda somehow control Museveni? If so exactly how are we doing this?
Why is it so hard for you UPC chaps to accept your responsibility in destroying Uganda? Conversely, why is it impossible for you to recognize Obote's culpability when it is plain to
we appear to be at different orbitals in addressing the biggest issues that
is destroying Uganda by courtsey of the Baganda through Mu7.
This blanket statement about Baganda is neither true nor fair.
A 'few' of us Baganda have always disassociated ourselves from this mu7
monster, and have paid
If, say, an Acholi NewVision columnist is a mu7 ass-kisser are we also
to blame that on Acholis?
Mitayo Potosi
That might be a wakeup call, even if one is an Acholi ass-kisser, (you
know who) and you are a Muganda, you're in cahoots with Museveni - most
do believe!
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Whatever the case, nothing can alter the fact that Obote
massacred Ugandans, just as did Idi Amin.
For me this is a sufficient reason to do everything
possible under the sun to ensure that the UPC never holds power again in Uganda
as we know it today, for they'd do exactly the same
Ed Kironde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"If, say, an Acholi NewVision columnist is a mu7 ass-kisser are we alsoto blame that on Acholis?"Mitayo PotosiThat might be a wakeup call, even if one is an Acholi ass-kisser, (youknow who) and you are a Muganda, you're in cahoots with Museveni - mostdo believe!
As we who were young at those times
Did UPC come to power for individuals did
everything possible to bring it to power, or because Ugandans elected it? For
knowing the answer to that question, one can know the strength of Mwaami
Ssemakula's statement, or its you know what!!
Em
The
Mwaami Ssemakula,did Nelson Mandela also state that the first
travel document(Passport) that he used to travel outside South
Africa et Africa was a Ugandan passport that was recommended
by this samesome Obote?.
Lets always talk facts not figments of our imaginations that obscure
whatever we
Mr. Kipenji,
Provide facts: if you have any credible documentation about Obote providing Mandela with a passport by all means provide it, instead of grand-standing.
However, even if it were true, I fail to see how this would redeem that barbarian.
--- Owor Kipenji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Barbarians brought about what we have come to call Uganda Matyrs.Those poor souls lost their lives because of the barbarians who
claimed to be leaders when only they were killers.To this day the blood
of those close to 40 innocent lives murdered/massacred/butchered at the behest of the loving
Mwaami Ssemakula
Just a word of caution do not argue on that one.
You know it is so amazing that through hate, many people do not take the time to
find out exactly what our leaders do, or even believe it. The death of president
Amin has proved this.
Having stated that, it is interesting
Mulindwa and all
This is in
reference to Obote giving Mandela a passport as
alleged or stated as fact.
I am asking
these questions just to learn, not refuting the allegation. Having said that, Obote,
I believe gave Mandela a passport in his capacity as Prime Minister of Uganda, Mandela
Mr. Kipenji:
Your puny attempts to transplant moral standards and norms from one era to another notwithstanding, it is an indisputable fact that Obote is a mass murderer, quite on par with Idi Amin.
In Obote I, at least 10,000 Ugandans -- mostly Baganda -- were killed by his government.
In
J Ssemakula,
Give it a rest, man!
Or are you getting paid to divert attention from what is happening in Uganda
right now, as we speak, with:
* Dictator Museveni's gunships mowing down innocent Ugandans in a funeral
procession in Teso mistaking them for 'rebels'?
* Dictator Museveni now
Mr. Fugee,
I see that you have no substantive rebuttal to Mr. Ibingira's expose' of Obote as a conniving power-hungry megalomaniac.
As for the bit about Obote's attempts to bar the ANC from the OAU's pre-cursor, it is from an impeachabe source: Mr. Mandela himself.
Original Message
Futher Evidence:
U.A stands for Uganda Argus and the year is 1967
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Turning
to civil liberties, our rights could be suspended summarily under the proposals
and there was no recourse to the courts to find out why they had been
suspended.
This was the biggest indication of autocracy. The
Ssemakula,
Many of us have decided to leave you to
your rabid hatred of Obote. You seem to be so confused by your hatred that you
would absolve everyone, including yourself, of any responsibility in ensuring
that Ugandans and Uganda gets what it
truly deserves. As such I find it very
Well boys n gals, last-time we saw evedence of Obote's hunger for power and to what extents he is willing to go to satiate that hunger. Here are more details on how he did this, according to his former confidant.
Grace Stuart Ibingira 1980 African Upheavals Since Independence (emphasis added,
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