Re: what a mess! is framework independence ever going to be possible?

2010-02-05 Thread Adrian Crum
Chris, Framework independence has been a goal for quite a while. There is no disagreement that the framework should run on its own. The disagreements arise in what constitutes the framework. Let's assume for a moment that framework independence means running the components in the framework fol

what a mess! is framework independence ever going to be possible?

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
I'm back to the process of working out how to get a standalone framework running based on trunk, but I have found that the dependencies have got out of hand (if I've understood the code right): Framework depends on Themes Themes depends on Content Content depends on Party The questions I'm st

Re: party component dependency on accounting

2010-02-05 Thread Rishi Solanki
+1 for this change, as defining a view entity in xml is static one its not dynamic creation at run time. Rishi Solanki Enterprise Software Developer HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:16 AM, Christopher Snow < sno...@snowconsulting.co.uk> wrote: > In the party component, there is a

Re: credit card authorization + capture

2010-02-05 Thread Amit Sharma
Hello Mike, In process of capture payment, OFBiz create accounting transaction entries. If you really want to process capture payment you need to comment out secas_ledger.xml and secas_olap.xml files in accounting component so that user can process capture payment without accounting entries.

Re: Setting product admin permissions on a store or catalog

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Sorry David: I believe you are correct in that I misunderstood the question. What I should have said to you is: I have tried adding roles and roletypes to products, categories and catalogs in both the trunk and version 9.04 and it does not work or is broken. I don't know which since I'm not 10

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Warnock
I've always thought the perl Mason site was pretty good. Simple, clean, easy to find stuff. A little intro on the front page, and well organized, easy to find links to the various areas. http://www.masonhq.com/ On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 18:21 -0700, Tim Ruppert wrote: > Well - I think what we went

Re: New vision [was Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Matt: Obviously, I don't have a life... ;-) Matt Warnock wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 17:12 -0500, Ruth Hoffman wrote: Hi Matt: Thanks for your input. I'm always open to rebuke. Wasn't intended as rebuke, just (hopefully) helpful observation. We all can use those, I think. I t

New vision [was Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Warnock
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 17:12 -0500, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hi Matt: > Thanks for your input. I'm always open to rebuke. Wasn't intended as rebuke, just (hopefully) helpful observation. We all can use those, I think. > I take issue with one thing you said: "The primary business is always > develop

Re: Setting product admin permissions on a store or catalog

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi David: I tried your solution. It causes errors in the trunk and in version 9.04. Since it is not documented anywhere how to do this, its pretty hard to report it as an error or a bug. Regards, Ruth David E Jones wrote: I think Deedra is talking about product administration and not about a

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Well - I think what we went thru was the difference between targeting the trunk and targeting the release branch - and we do still differ there in a big way - so that's not what I want to talk about. What I'm looking for are actual examples and thought put in to _how_ I can help design and brin

Re: what is the purpose of the commonext component?

2010-02-05 Thread Hans Bakker
Hi Chris, The purpose of the common-ext component is to have all files with affect most applications and it has the setup webapplication to initially setup an ofbiz system. regards Hans On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 23:13 +, Christopher Snow wrote: > what is the purpose of the commonext component? >

Re: how to change the default store?

2010-02-05 Thread Hans Bakker
Hi Parick, The current store has a relation to the current website which is set in the file web.xml in he current webapplication. (specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/WEB-INF/web.xml) Website is maintained in the content application and productstore is maintained in the catalog application.

Re: Setting product admin permissions on a store or catalog

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
I think Deedra is talking about product administration and not about access to products in the ecommerce store. There is actually some functionality to give more limited permissions to certain users. Instead of giving a user the full create, update and delete permissions for the catalog manage

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
On Feb 5, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Hi Matt: > Thanks for your input. I'm always open to rebuke. > > I take issue with one thing you said: "The primary business is always > developing the system". IMO, "developing the system" does not always mean > adding code to the project at t

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Yes they do ... :) Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5, 2010, at 5:18 PM, David E Jones wrote: > > Plenty of PMC members, committers, and contributors still manage to do just > that... > > -David > > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: > >> You're definitely right about that :) >> >> Ch

Re: Setting product admin permissions on a store or catalog

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi DeedraF: I think this has been answer before on this list not too long ago. Out-of-the-box, you can't do this with any existing OFBiz applications. Basically, the best you can do is limit access to certain users (belonging to security groups) by store. To regulate access to specific produc

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > One feeling I have though, PHBs are often pushing this way, note that I did > not say that you are a PHB :p > Actually, I agree with you about "our" lack of interest for end user. I think > this is due to the nature of OFBiz itself... I won'

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
On Feb 5, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: > --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Ruth Hoffman wrote: >> There is so much more to making software >> successful than anything clever "foxes" will ever have time >> to consider. > > You make it sound as though you have some special insight no one else has. If

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > I'd also like to have a seat on the project's oversight group. I don't > understand how a project of this magnitude can continue to grow and prosper > without business oriented people helping to guide it. The oversight group > (whoever they hap

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread David E Jones
Plenty of PMC members, committers, and contributors still manage to do just that... -David On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: > You're definitely right about that :) > > Cheers, > Ruppert > > On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > >> Actually, I take that back. If I

Setting product admin permissions on a store or catalog

2010-02-05 Thread DeedraF
I am very new to OFBiz. My dev team is working through the technical details and I am trying to handle the more 'front end' setup activities. Not finding very many 'exact steps' or documentation to use as a guide, I thought perhaps someone reading this post could help out?? I have created a sto

what is the purpose of the commonext component?

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
what is the purpose of the commonext component? many thanks in advance, chris

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Adrian Crum
--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > I say if you are a committer, then you > need to take full responsibility for the project and not > just those things you find "interesting" or "exciting". Here again you are misunderstanding open source software. OFBiz is a community of volunteers. Who

party component dependency on accounting

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
In the party component, there is a view dependent on the accounting component: entity-name="PartyAcctgPreference"/> Should this view be relocated to the accounting component? Many thanks in advance...

Re: style issues and framework independence

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
Perhaps this functionality would be best situated in the eclipse ofbiz ide tool that is currently being developed? Christopher Snow wrote: On a similar vein to style checking, a great tool to include as part of the framework build process would be dependency checking / reporting. This tool co

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
That was exactly my thinking Matt. The current nightly build page is more likely to scare newbies away IMHO. Your idea below would be much more helpful to new users. Matt Warnock wrote: Speaking as a newbie, I have downloaded nightly builds, but never anything other than the most recent one

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Warnock
Speaking as a newbie, I have downloaded nightly builds, but never anything other than the most recent one. I would think that an explanation of the differences between 4.0, 9.4, and trunk, together with notes on how to keep current in each, would be good info for the front page. A link to a separ

style issues and framework independence

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
On a similar vein to style checking, a great tool to include as part of the framework build process would be dependency checking / reporting. This tool could help alert to incorrect dependencies (such as entity engine depending on service engine). Any thoughts? Cheers, Chris

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Matt: Thanks for your input. I'm always open to rebuke. I take issue with one thing you said: "The primary business is always developing the system". IMO, "developing the system" does not always mean adding code to the project at the expense of some very basic business related tasks. Commit

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Adrian Crum wrote: --- On Fri, 2/5/10, Ruth Hoffman wrote: I'd also like to have a seat on the project's oversight group. Apache OFBiz is based on meritocracy - there is no oversight group. We are all peers and volunteers. http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#meri

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Milind Parikh
ok.. here's my two cents... OfBiz is too complicated for the noobs. Ofbiz is an extremely powerful framework. But with power comes responsibility. You should be expected to spend 200-400 hours in understanding ofBiz., Anyone who has dealt with commercial ERP (some of my "favorite" vendors come to m

how to change the default store?

2010-02-05 Thread Patrick
I have my own store but the default is still the demo store with the enchiladas. I set "Is Demo Store" to N for the defaults, and my own to "Y" , but https://localhost:8443/ecommerce/control/main is still the demo... Such a noob question I know, but thanks. Patrick

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
Are nightly builds actually used? Anyone who already does ofbiz development would want to use svn? Anyone new to ofbiz would only want ofbiz-rel9.04-current.zip or ofbiz-trunk-current.zip? Just curious... Tim Ruppert wrote: Ruth, I'm sure there's some good that could come out of your messa

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Matt Warnock
My understanding is that the whole site has just changed hosting. A few broken links are to be expected. Doesn't mean no one is minding the store-- there is a lot to be done and a few things may be discovered as we go along. The primary business is always developing the system-- the website th

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Ruth, I think it's because we have this opportunity while moving from Contegix to the ASF support: we will not use the same infrastrucure, ie new tools, scripts, locations, etc. But unfortunately (damned ISP I should say) as I said I'm currently not in a position too help much, Hans and Tim are

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Adrian Crum
--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > I'd also like to have a seat on the project's oversight > group. Apache OFBiz is based on meritocracy - there is no oversight group. We are all peers and volunteers. http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#meritocracy > I don't understand ho

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Tim: I'm a little surprised. I thought we went through this a while back (maybe a few months ago) and the answer was: "the site is targeted at project committers". I left that discussion with the impression that was the last word. Are you saying that you might be open to discussing this aga

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Tim: It is so much easier to "wing my salvos" from over here! Regards, Ruth Tim Ruppert wrote: You're definitely right about that :) Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: Actually, I take that back. If I'm part of the committer's group, I won't be able to "

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Jacques: Can't ask for much more. Regards, Ruth Jacques Le Roux wrote: Ruth, For the moment with my broken connection and my rescue solution I can't help much, but when it will be fixed I will have a look at the situation at the moment Jacques From: "Ruth Hoffman" Hi Jacques: That woul

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Ruth, For the moment with my broken connection and my rescue solution I can't help much, but when it will be fixed I will have a look at the situation at the moment Jacques From: "Ruth Hoffman" Hi Jacques: That would be really nice, but I'm not even at that stage yet. My problem is with the

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to think on it this weekend and will try and come up with some ideas of how this could work better. If you could show me some sites that you do like, that would be a big help - then I can see how to get that working in our world. Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5, 2

Re: What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
You're definitely right about that :) Cheers, Ruppert On Feb 5, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > Actually, I take that back. If I'm part of the committer's group, I won't be > able to "whine" and "troll" from the comfort of my desktop anymore. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptogra

What I would like to see [was: Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.]

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Tim: Since you asked: I'd like to have a download site where any user, especially a new user, could visit, feel comfortable about the project (and life in general), and then proceed about the business of downloading code. Easy, simple and painless. Yes, the nightly builds are a HUGE step in

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Thanks - again that was super helpful. I took the time to lay it out like a towel what was there, what looks to be broken when we migrated to the ASF infra and no you wont' go thru it? There are some obvious spots for you to say something or point to projects you like, but you just continue

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Jacques: That would be really nice, but I'm not even at that stage yet. My problem is with the download web page. There has been a major regression here and no one has said a word (until me, right now) about it. That leads me to say: "Who is minding the store?". This is the second or third

Re: Application icon?

2010-02-05 Thread Adrian Crum
That can be done in the stylesheet. Take a look at how icons are used in existing style sheets. -Adrian Olivier Tremblay wrote: Hi all! Would it be possible, or is it already possible to assign icons to OFBiz apps? I want to use icons as a way to guide my users throughout the application by

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Some ASF projects are very sucessful yet with strong competition, for instance ServiceMix vs Mule, Geronimo, vs..., etc. We may mimic some of the ways they are doing things. For instance, some time ago Chris Snow asked for a better SEO, I'm not quite sure but I think it'a about exporting the wik

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
Hi Tim: I've been through this already. Several times over. All I can say at this point is, no one is minding the store. I just don't get it: You guys spend hours agonizing over how and where to put spaces in Java files, yet you can't see the most obvious flaws in how OFBiz does business. Oh

Re: credit card authorization + capture

2010-02-05 Thread Mike Voytovich
My question is in regards to anonymous purchases on the eCommerce store (i.e., checkout without login). Regardless, it doesn't seem like one should need to change a user's security permissions to perform authorization+capture during checkout. Furthermore, giving ACCTG_ATX_CREATE or ACCTG_ATX_

Application icon?

2010-02-05 Thread Olivier Tremblay
Hi all! Would it be possible, or is it already possible to assign icons to OFBiz apps? I want to use icons as a way to guide my users throughout the application by using familiar icons for common tasks, and it would be simpler on my standpoint to be able to assign images to apps. If I have to

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
HI Adrian: Welcome to my world. Ruth Adrian Crum wrote: If there is a problem with the OFBiz site, it would be helpful to know what it is. Remarks like this are not helpful. -Adrian Ruth Hoffman wrote: This was meant as a sarcastic, "I can't believe this kind of thing keeps falling through t

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Tim Ruppert
Ruth, I'm sure there's some good that could come out of your message - so against my general nature of responding to this type of attitude, I'm going to try and help you phrase this in a way that will help us help infra to try to meet what you're looking for. Here's what I see when I go to the

Re: block non-whole numbers of products in cart?

2010-02-05 Thread Kumaraswamy nandipati
For me Simply 2 ways to handle this. 1) Client side validation "onblur" javascript event.(this won't work in non-javascript) 2) Server side validation for this while submitting the page. I prefer to implement two solutions. if one fails(user desables js) second one will back up. Any better ideas

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
please submit a patch. Jacopo On Feb 5, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote: > This was meant as a sarcastic, "I can't believe this kind of thing keeps > falling through the cracks", kind of remark. No wonder new users shy away. I > mean, no wonder new users run as fast as their browsers will

Re: Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Adrian Crum
If there is a problem with the OFBiz site, it would be helpful to know what it is. Remarks like this are not helpful. -Adrian Ruth Hoffman wrote: This was meant as a sarcastic, "I can't believe this kind of thing keeps falling through the cracks", kind of remark. No wonder new users shy away.

Nice job on keeping the download site up-to-date.

2010-02-05 Thread Ruth Hoffman
This was meant as a sarcastic, "I can't believe this kind of thing keeps falling through the cracks", kind of remark. No wonder new users shy away. I mean, no wonder new users run as fast as their browsers will take them to OpenBravo, OpenERP, Magento... Regards, Ruth -

block non-whole numbers of products in cart?

2010-02-05 Thread Ryan Vanderwerf
Hi I am running Ofbiz 9.04, and a user presented a strange problem. They can say they can enter non-whole numbers of any product in the cart. I.e. 1.2 widgets. It will let them check out and prorate the price and everything. Is there a way to prevent this, or maybe is this a bug? I didn't see an

Ofbiz customer AR statements

2010-02-05 Thread Rick F.
Hi all - I've been on the demo management site and I don't see any way of printing customer AR statements. Is this possible? TIA Rick -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Ofbiz-customer-AR-statements-tp1470439p1470439.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Na

Re: groovy service examples

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
I've only found /ofbiz/framework/common/script/org/ofbiz/common/GroovyServiceTest.groovy Is this the only one? Out of interest, why aren't more services written in groovy? It is much more concise than minilang. The only thing that it misses in the code completion. Cheers, Chris Christo

groovy service examples

2010-02-05 Thread Christopher Snow
Are there any example services written in groovy that someone could point me to? Many thanks, Chris

Re: Error - org.ofbiz.base.util.string.FlexibleStringExpander

2010-02-05 Thread Abdullah Shaikh
Created jira issue, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3443, patch attached. Abdullah On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Abdullah Shaikh wrote: > I just took the latest code, did a clean-all, I am getting the below error > on Catalog and then clicking on any Category link under Browse Cat

Error - org.ofbiz.base.util.string.FlexibleStringExpander

2010-02-05 Thread Abdullah Shaikh
I just took the latest code, did a clean-all, I am getting the below error on Catalog and then clicking on any Category link under Browse Categories. Error : org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ScreenRenderException: Error rendering screen [component://product/widget/catalog/CategoryScreens.xml#EditCategory]

Replace popup lookups by layered lokoups

2010-02-05 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Hi, I have created a Jira issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-3442 with a patch intented to replace popup lookups by layered lokoups, ie lookups Ajaxified, like was the calendar about one year ago. A special thanks to Sascha Rodekamp for his continued good work on this Please te

Re: Best practices for formulas/recipes

2010-02-05 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Hi Matt, my suggestion is to implement formulas and recipes as bill of materials in OFBiz. Kind regards, Jacopo On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Matt Warnock wrote: > Anyone tried tracking formulas or recipes or similar processes > (ingredients, change tracking, etc) in OFBiz? Any suggestions? >