Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 2:27 PM Subject: Re: about using ofbiz as a platform hmm...I compared the article and the latest code from trunk. I don't think the diagram is consistent with codes. For example, from the diagram party doesn't depend on marketing; however, as I

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Hi Jacopo, I was originally thinking about putting this stuff in the webtools until I thought that user account management may be done by a user that is not a system administrator (e.g. helpdesk level one support). Webtools seems to be more system administration type stuff. What are the pros

Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

Hi Michael, Does the framework just need user account and permission management? or, does it need party/organisation management too? Perhaps even using an external framework like ldap would be better for managing the organisational structures, user accounts and permissions? Cheers, Chris

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hi Chris, I think account and permission management are enough for framework and party/organization probably should not be in the scope of framework. Using LDAP is definitely a good idea. But I think that should be only a option, because not all customers have LDAP. -- Regards, Michael Xu

Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

hi Chris, Not sure what kind of help you need for next step. I would love to help if I can. -- Regards, Michael Xu (xudong) www.wizitsoft.com On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) dong...@wizitsoft.comwrote: hi Chris, I think account and permission management are enough for

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On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:53 AM, Christopher Snow wrote: Hi Michael, Does the framework just need user account and permission management? or, does it need party/organisation management too? The framework just needs user/security; parties, persons and organizations cannot be referenced by the

Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

Hi Michael, We need to: - decide whether to create a new component for managing accounts and permissions or use webtools. - decide on what content should go into these screens. As mentioned by Jacopo, some of this may have already been done by Adrian:

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Hi Christopher, On Dec 10, 2009, at 9:43 AM, Christopher Snow wrote: Hi Jacopo, I was originally thinking about putting this stuff in the webtools until I thought that user account management may be done by a user that is not a system administrator (e.g. helpdesk level one support).

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Hi Michael, Chris As Scott said, I also wonder if Adrian did not begin something more open (Atlassian Crowd, etc.). I'd wait his answer because I found only this https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-811 related to specialpurpose/ldap Jacques () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML

Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

I agree with Jacopo. Basically each ofbiz component can define its own admin stuff (like user management in security). In terms of how to show those stuff, that should be left to framework users. Maybe some users prefer to aggregate all admin stuff from different components into webtools or

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Hi Adrian, Would there be any reason the work couldn't be done on trunk? I was just thinking of the next release (whenever that is) being one step closer to framework separation? Many thanks, Chris Adrian Crum wrote: The work I did is so old and out of date that it is probably unusable by

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The work would have to be done on the trunk. Releases only get bug fixes. -Adrian Christopher Snow wrote: Hi Adrian, Would there be any reason the work couldn't be done on trunk? I was just thinking of the next release (whenever that is) being one step closer to framework separation? Many

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I've just tried commenting out all components except commonext on trunk. I ran the ant tasks create-admin-user-login, then run and then tried to access the url https://localhost:8443/webtools/ I received the following error message: org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ScreenRenderException: Error

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That looks like a good candidate for a Jira issue. -Adrian Christopher Snow wrote: I've just tried commenting out all components except commonext on trunk. I ran the ant tasks create-admin-user-login, then run and then tried to access the url https://localhost:8443/webtools/ I received the

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Adrian, thanks for the feedback - jira created OFBIZ-3329. Adrian Crum wrote: That looks like a good candidate for a Jira issue. -Adrian Christopher Snow wrote: I've just tried commenting out all components except commonext on trunk. I ran the ant tasks create-admin-user-login, then run

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sense, as marketing is only an optional component but party is a must. What's the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Michael Xu -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform

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and clues will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Michael Xu -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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is only an optional component but party is a must. What's the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Michael Xu -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html

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an optional component but party is a must. What's the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Michael Xu -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html Sent from the OFBiz

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the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Michael Xu -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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hi Bruno, Thanks for your reply. I wish I could make it by myself. However, it turns out too challenging for me. I think it is more piratical if one or more committer could lead the overall process. At this moment, what I can suggest is that the current big ofbiz might need to be split into sub

about using ofbiz as a platform

hi all, I try to build a new application using ofbiz. Basically, I want to use the nice overall architect of ofbiz, theme mechanism and Party/Permission/SecurityGroup. However, I found it is very difficult to remove unnecessary components. For example, entitymodel.xml from applications/party

Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

Just found an article about the dependency: http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+DependenciesFrom the component relationship diagram, it seems I have to include all components under

Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

hmm...I compared the article and the latest code from trunk. I don't think the diagram is consistent with codes. For example, from the diagram party doesn't depend on marketing; however, as I mentioned in previous email, party entity definition does use ContactListParty from marketing. --

Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

This question feels like it should be a FAQ... Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: hi all, I try to build a new application using ofbiz. Basically, I want to use the nice overall architect of ofbiz, theme mechanism and Party/Permission/SecurityGroup. However, I found it is very difficult to remove

Re: about using ofbiz as a platform

Hi Michael, the framework isolation and a framework-only installation is definitely something the community as talken about many times. You will find several conversations searching the mailing list. We will have it sooner or later and any help you could provide on this topic will be much