I wonder if it's the differences in the concept of 'sections' between
OOo and Word that's causing you trouble, here.
In Word (from memory), sections can be used primarily to change page
formats - header, footer etc. In OOo, sections are used to link in
external documents, and provide
From memory - if you have Writer set to add an automatic caption (the
'Illustration n:' bit), then it'll add each image and table within an
automatic frame. The frame is set to be as wide as the object it's
enclosing.
So, to fix your problem, you should be able to a) change the width of
the
Hi Piers,
Have you gotten any help with this?
Something that's tripped me up a few times is quite a simple issue -
having Keep with next paragraph, Orphan control, or Widow control set
for a paragraph style can stuff up pagination in the way you describe.
Feel free to send me the files to
Page style changes are created in page breaks.
You can either create a manual page break for that last page, and set
the page style as you do it, or apply a paragraph style to the first
paragraph on the last page which sets a page break before, with page
style of _.
Sorry, my powers of
Master documents?
Use a single child document, where all the text editing takes place.
Three master documents, with required layouts. Use the same paragraph
and character style names throughout, but change the styles as required
in each master document. Make sense?
- Naomi
Laurent Duperval
Can you do it in a Calc spreadsheet, then insert said spreadsheet into
the Writer document?
Colene Merrilda wrote:
I wanted to do this on a writer document. as Brian said.
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Does anyone know how to contact a human running this list? I've tried to get
off the individual email list; the daily digest is much easier to digest.
I am now subscribed to the digest version but I can't seem to stop the flood
of individual emails. I've used both of the email addresses in using
Hi - I'm a clueless newbie; MS Word is crashing on my MB Pro; someone
suggested using Open Office.
When I try to open the app, I get a window that says I need X11
The OO website says:
Installing X11 for Mac OSX 10.5 (Leopard)
X11 comes pre-installed on Mac OSX 10.5, so you can install
McLauchlan, Kevin wrote:
Why does the interface ALLOW me to set the Numbering Style of a
paragraph style to itself?? Is there a legitimate use for that? I
mean, other than to confuse Kevin? :-)
Well, the Confuse Kevin Conspiracy Nuts will probably answer this too,
but...
I think maybe
Go to Templates - Organise
Find your template in the list
Right-click on it and select Set As Default Template
Howzat?
- Naomi
Kenn Goutal wrote:
I'm using OO.o v2.0 on WinXP + SP2.
I have defined a template,
consisting primarily of a few new paragraph styles
but also instantly recognizable
Scott Meyers wrote:
Is there a way to remove character characteristics from a character
style? For example, given the character style I created from a
selection above (Light Red + Georgia + 11pt), is there a way for me
to remove the 11pt specification so that the resulting style is Light
Red
Scott Meyers wrote:
Thanks for the information, I didn't know about the hack the XML
option.
Regarding deleting character styles, the problem with this approach is
that once the style is deleted, any text to which that style was
applied reverts to the default. Combined with the fact that
1. Right-click on the footnote reference (in the main text) and
select Footnote...
2. Select the Character option button
3. Type x
4. Click OK.
(hope that works for you)
- Naomi
Scott Meyers wrote:
I can't find a way to change the symbol associated with a footnote.
For
Want to send me your document? I'm not sure what you're doing wrong.
- Naomi
GR wrote:
Dan wrote:
On Tuesday 19 February 2008 16:52:45 GR wrote:
I'm using OO 2.3.0 on OpenSuse Linux 10.3
I've imported a four page Word document. Page one is supposed to be
portrait, page two is
Michael Adams wrote:
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:52:16 +0100
Cor Nouws wrote:
Hi Mike,
mike scott wrote (2-2-2008 18:23)
I've been irritated for some weeks over this, having found
no way to clear such character formatting (on one piece of text I
ended up doing a cut and paste-special just
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a couple of files, produced by copying of other files, which
on opening give the message:
+ File contains links to other files.
+ Should they be updated?
+ Yes/No
It is unclear to me how this happened. I *do* know I want to get rid
of this message. But how?
Scott Meyers wrote:
Different references are for different things. Some are for figure
numbers (i.e., Figure 4), some for citation numbers (i.e.,
Reference 11), some are for listing numbers, some for particular
examples on particular pages, etc. Because the references are
naturally
Kramer wrote:
Scott Meyers wrote:
Different references are for different things. Some are for figure
numbers (i.e., Figure 4), some for citation numbers (i.e.,
Reference 11), some are for listing numbers, some for particular
examples on particular pages, etc. Because the references
Scott Meyers wrote:
When I want to insert a reference to the figure showing the full
inheritance diagram, I don't know which figure number it is, I just
know it's the one I named full inheritance diagram.
Does that make the problem clearer?
Yup.
What would be really nice would be if Writer
Scott Meyers wrote:
If there's not, is there an easy way to copy them to new styles I name
myself and then automatically change all paragraphs using the
unchangable names to the corresponding new styles? For example, I
want to use Body Para instead of Text Body. Can I somehow copy
the
Scott Meyers wrote:
Suppose I've set references named R1 and R2 in my document, and I
realize later that R1 and R2 are not the most informative names in
the world, so I'd like to change them. How can I do that? They're
displayed in the Navigator, but I can't find a way to edit them.
I could really do with some help on this, ppl - it's a longterm problem that
NEEDS a fix.
I have a document with a gazillion tables. There are 3-4 different table types
(ie, number of columns, column widths, data shown in them). Ideally, I should
be able to handle these with table styles. The
Thanks! :-)
One problem, though - it doesn't seem to be available when using master
documents. I've come across this before when using extensions
(functionality is available when a normal document is loaded,
unavailable for a master document). Am I installing it incorrectly? Or
is this
Take a screenshot, paste it into a new Draw file (or Paint), then use
File - Export?
The only other thing I can think of that MIGHT work is to put the text
into a textbox in Writer, then copy and paste the textbox into Draw,
then export.
Hope that helps!
- Naomi
Philippe Faure wrote:
Yes, BUT.
The templates do work fine, OK? But if you open a document, and OOo
tells you that the template has changed, would you like to update the
styles? and you say no... the document is forever divorced from the
template. People - if I'm wrong about this, if there's an easy fix, DEAR
GOD
Hi Joe,
First, I haven't seen your previous emails on the subject, so I might be
telling you stuff you already know. Apologies if that happens. However, I use
master documents a lot for large-scale projects, so I know some of the curly
problems that occur :-)
Best way to start a new page for
You need to set up:
- A paragraph style (eg. Numbering 1)
- A list style (5th tab on the Styles Formatting window)... last tab
contains the number type and second-last tab contains the right-align
option.
Then link the two from the paragraph style (in the numbering tab).
Make sense? Yell
Hi Richard,
Have you tried hitting the Save button? From memory, it's a slightly
counter-intuitive double step of entering the PDF location and name,
then seeing a screen which offers PDFing options.
- Naomi
Richard Davies wrote:
I have access to two versions of Open Office version 2.0.4
Thanks to all who helped out with this problem. ExtendedPDF does do the
trick, but with a few peccadilloes which cause me to hope that we don't
need to use it too often! :)
- Naomi
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I'm wondering if anyone else has had problems creating PDFs in the
latest version (2.2 or 2.2.1 for that matter) of Writer? Windows XP.
We have rather large (150-200 page) manuals - master documents which use
variables. One contains lots of tables, one contains lots of images.
When we export
wrote:
On 07/17/2007 03:47 PM, Naomi Kramer wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone else has had problems creating PDFs in the
latest version (2.2 or 2.2.1 for that matter) of Writer? Windows XP.
We have rather large (150-200 page) manuals - master documents which
use variables. One contains lots
Hi Sam,
This is NOT what you asked for, but it might be close enough... this is
what I would do:
- create a page style for the first page of a chapter (with header
turned off), and set the Next Style to your usual page style
- set a 'page break before' with the new page style in the chapter
It sounds right to me.
There are only 2 things I can think of that might be causing the problem:
1. Using Only Right or Only Left page settings?
2. You've set the 'Next Style' to something other than the default?
Ummm... about all I can suggest if those don't help, is to create two more page
Have a look at File - Templates - Organize
Double-click on a folder on the left to view the names of any templates
in it. Double-click on a template to see the names of all styles (tip:
they're ordered by style type). Double-click on an open document on the
right to see the names of all
Hi John,
This usually happens to me when I've applied paragraph formatting to the
text, instead of to the style. The paragraph formatting on the text
takes precedence, and applying 'Default' (which in my opinion should
work) doesn't help. Sometimes changing to another style (eg Text body)
Is it practical to have a spreadsheet with more than
say a million cells (on a fast computer with 256 mb of
ram)? I have 3 rows by 40 columns of data that I
want to do a couple of calculations for on each row
and then sort the rows. Is one of calc, gnumeric,
excel more efficient at this?
Hi all,
When I was reading through the ODF specs [1], I noticed how they embedded
the actual Relax-NG scheme inside the document. This is called Literate
Programming, I learned from google. In this case, all text marked with the
RelaxNG style is extracted somehow, to form the final schema file.
John P. Fisher wrote:
Naomi I'd like to piggyback on your question, because I am guessing my
problem is related...
I cannot get variables to work with conditional text at all. Your
method might also work for me? I am curious what you CAN get to work?
Here's what I HAVE been doing successfully:
To insert the chapter heading, press Ctrl-F2, click on the Document tab,
select Chapter from the Type list, select Chapter name from the Format
list, click on Insert. As long as you're using the Heading 1 style for
your chapter headings, that should work OK. Give us/me a yell if it doesn't.
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Yet another option is to make sure you have a download program which
supports resuming - which means it can stop partway through a file and,
whenever it's connected again, can take up where it left off (instead of
restarting the whole download). I have very little knowledge of Mac
software, so
Probably a page style setting.
1. Click on a page which has the problem.
2. Press F11 to see the Styles and Formatting window.
3. Click on the fourth icon along the top of the window (looks like a
sheet of paper with top right corner folded down).
4. See which page style is selected
application that
does outlines will be usable in OO that functions at least as good as M
$? Workarounds with formatting and such as suggested in the archived
mailings is not an option for serious work. I have been using OO with
outline formatting as suggested by Naomi Kramer
(http
It's a multi-step process (at least, when you do it right! ;-) ).
First, create a list style (NOT a paragraph style). In the Styles and
Formatting window (press F11 to view it if it isn't already onscreen),
it's the fifth style type from the left (the icons are at the top of the
window). To
How are you creating the new master document?
Theoretically, if you create a new text document and then select File -
Send - Create Master Document, you should be fine.
- Naomi
Charlie Kelly wrote:
I've changed the default template and the results are visible when I
create a new text
Ah-ha... I knew there was another way of doing it, couldn't remember
what it was. But I have vague memories of learning to do it the way I do
because the other had a reputation for being dodgy. Glad I could help.
- Naomi
Charlie Kelly wrote:
Hi Naomi,
Thanks. That worked.
I had been
Have you tried Tools - Update - Update All ? (So it's not automatic on
printing, but it's a close 2nd)
Warning: can stuff up pagination slightly on large documents - probably
only if you have 2 reference tables consecutively (eg TOC followed by
Table of Figures).
- Naomi
Lívio Cipriano
Paul,
I'm assuming you mean either right- or left-aligned paragraphs,
depending on which is the outside margin. Yes?
The short answer is - no, not that I'm aware of. I can't think of any
workaround to do that, except for the obvious 2-paragraph-styles one (ick).
- Naomi
Paul_B wrote:
Is
Not that I know of, Mark. Sorry. :-/ You're getting a bit more into
desktop publishing territory there than word processing... something
like InDesign would do it easily, but I don't think it's been a priority
for OOo.
Hmmm... not possible to just have the filename/path at the end of the
I've noticed this occasionally with big Word documents... although
usually ones with pictures. Do you have many styles in the document?
Tables? How quickly does Writer open the document once you've saved it
as an odt?
- Naomi
yocto wrote:
yeap excuse me i forget mention the OS:
ok I try to
Sehr geehrte Damen u. Herren,
beigefügt übersende ich Ihnen ein Schreiben und hoffe, daraufhin von Ihnen zu
hören.
Mit frdl. Grüßen
Gerda Kramer---BeginMessage---
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
seit einiger Zeit benütze ich das Programm
OpenOffice.org 1.1.4. Leider fehlt mir dazu eine
Hi James,
A Master Document is basically a collection of 'child' documents, with
arrangement and maybe some extra text or a table of contents/index.
The advantage comes when you've got two similar documents that need to
be kept up-to-date... you can put all the information in child documents
Hi all,
I've trawled through the archives for a few pages, but didn't find this
exact issue in a fairly recent build.
Has anyone else had trouble using hidden paragraphs in master documents?
OOo Writer 2.0.3? Windows XP? The way I've been doing it is:
- put variable at start of master
Naomi Kramer wrote:
* I discovered that while hidden paragraphs based on variables are
dodgy, hidden paragraphs based on user fields actually WORK! So
this seems like a possible workaround for anyone suffering from
similar problems. My only issue is, it seems impossible
Yes, ANOTHER 'hidden paragraphs' question... (I save them up and try to
solve the hard ones at the end of each project... these are just the
ones that have me stymied)
I have a list of instructions, one or two of which aren't applicable in
certain situations. So what I'd LIKE to do is:
1.
I think I fixed THAT problem. Master document, with index entries in
various child documents. If you have a parent AND child ref in a child
document, problem disappears. Yeesh :-)
- Naomi
Naomi Kramer wrote:
ARGH!
I'm having a number of problems with indexing. The major problem
Are you linking or inserting them?
- Naomi
Michael Winter wrote:
Can anybody help me avoid losing/corrupting pictures when saving and
reopening writer files? I'm trying to use pictures with captions and
want to be able to use them with Ooo2.0.3 and MS Word. It's a pain
having to reinsert
Have you tried linking instead of embedding? I have a vague memory of
having a similar problem with a previous beta version when I used
embedded images.
- Naomi
RICHARD wrote:
I'm using OOo version 2.0.1.1 on Fedora Core 4 with all the latest
patches. I create a document with pictures from
Hi Sarah,
Do you have a pdf reader on your machine? What program did you open the
pdf in?
- Naomi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please help, I have spent a day preparing a letter using word, then opened
it in Open Office and exported it as a pdf file. I must have done something
drastically wrong
The child document has the assorted page styles. When you enter them in the
Master Document, the page style is Portrait, only.
That's your problem right there. The page styles need to be set in the
Master document. To fix this, ensure that each page style change occurs
with a new child
Hi Bill,
You may need to have the *Tagged PDF* checkbox ticked (in the PDF
options screen) to enable clickable links in a pdf.
- Naomi
Mr. William L. Culp wrote:
Hello
I am trying to insert links in Writer that work once it is exported as
a pdf.
Is that possible?
Thanks
Bill Culp
Are the page styles in the master document or the child documents?
- Naomi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was trying to help someone who had different Page Styles such as Landscape,
Two Columns or more. When the Master Document is done, the Page Styles are
gone. All the pages become Portrait
Hi Laurent,
You'll need Hidden Text and Hidden Paragraphs. Press Ctrl-F2 to have a
look at the options. Basically, you need to create a variable and put it
at the start of the document - I'd probably call it 'trainer'. I'd set
'trainer' to YES for the trainer version of the manual, and NO for
Good to hear that it worked for you, Paul! :-)
- Naomi
Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
Thank you Naomi
Works like a charm.
Since my original posting, I sent this in as an issue. I hope you
don't mind if I forward you e-mail to assist.
Thank you Paul
Naomi Kramer wrote:
Hi Paul
Hi Paul,
The Alphabetical Index uses a non-standard-heading paragraph style for
its heading... like the TOC does. The way to get it in the TOC is:
1. Right-click on the TOC and select Edit Index/Table
2. Click on the Index/Table tab
3. In the Create From area, tick the Additional Styles
Yes! :-)
- Naomi
Louis Frischknecht wrote:
Is the license free for business use too?
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It's not overly intuitive, this... although quite powerful once you work
it out.
You need two different page styles. Set the page style for the first
page... manually insert a page break after whatever text you have on the
first page, and in the page break insert screen, set the page style to
Alex,
Darn. All I can suggest is:
* Go through all the categories searching, or
* If 'OpenOffice.org Macros' are available in that list, create a
macro for each style..?
* Hope that a Mac user wanders into the discussion.
- Naomi
Alex Zachopoulos wrote:
Hi Naomi!
Well, I had
Hi Frank,
First, this is a Users list. Full of people who use OpenOffice.org.
We're not OpenOffice. We don't control the website.
Second, why are you complaining to OpenOffice (or trying to) about a
third-party product that may well integrate with OpenOffice.org, but is
created and made
Hi all,
I'm hoping someone can help me out with this one - I suspect it's more
of a Windows problem than a OOo problem, but I'm a little baffled.
Every time I open a master document, it asks whether to update child
docs. Great. I say yes. It then starts loading them... and in the
process
Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
Which version of OOo are you using?
2.0.1 as per the Subject line :-)
I'm not sure any of my comments will be of any help, but here
goes
I also use WinXP, SP2. Master docs take quite awhile to load up
on my machine, but more like 5 minutes (depending on
Lars D. Noodén wrote:
Cool! Naomi, do you have a summary online somewhere? A comparison of
products is rather uncommon these days and it would be very useful to
have the URL.
I do have the comparison tests I ran, and the results (turns out I
tested with two versions of OOo, not two
Not wanting to debate, here, but thought I'd throw some info in...
I write manuals for a living. Last year, I sat down and tested 4 products - 2 MSO versions, WordPerfect, and OOo 2 BETA. For our needs - relatively complex word-processing with export to PDF - OOo (even in beta form) finished a
What options do you get?
- Naomi
Pete Holsberg wrote:
I'm trying to follow the directions that say to right-click in the TOC
and select Edit Index/Table.
However, Edit Index/Table is not an entry in the pop-up menu.
Do I have something configured wrong?
OO build number is 8990. Windows XP
Looks as though it's assuming it's text, not a TOC. What's the damage if
you delete the TOC and start again?
Default Formatting
-
Font
Size
Style
Alignment
Line Spacing
Character
Paragraph
Page
Numbering/Bullets
Case/Character
-
Edit Paragraph Style
Thomas W. Cranston wrote:
Dave Barton wrote:
Please read:
http://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s04.html#FILE-ASSOCIATIONS
I think the message When you install Open Office, it asks you
whether you want to associate MS Office files with Open Office. In
order to not associate these MS
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
Yes, the free chapter is very basic. The draw package is more indepth
and that is also free. THe rest of the content is not free
Sorry, I wasn't implying that the whole thing was way too basic. I might
see if I can thumbscrew some money out of our company
Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
If you are just getting started, chapter one from my published book is
also available as a free download from the publisher... My free macro
document, of course, is free and full of examples.
Thanks, Andrew :-) Too basic for my needs, but I'm impressed by the
Hi ppl,
Can someone please take pity on someone whose brain is still scrambled
after Christmas holidays, and tell me - where do I find a reference
manual for the commands/parameters etc used for OpenOffice? I really
need to start utilising macros in my work, and it's got me a little stumped.
OK, bleeding obvious and probably not worth asking...
Did you try a print preview or sample print? Do the field names still
show instead?
I set up a mysql database with address information. I want to create some
mailing labels. However, every time I set them up, all I get is the database
Simon wrote:
Need help as these two frustrations keep sending me back to WORD!
Poor thing :-) Nah, seriously, I remember the feeling.
I am running OO2.0 on Windows XP
Me too.
1. For a while now and over a couple of versions the Spell Checker has
been most unreliable. It sometimes
Best I can suggest - read
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/oooauthors2/0200WG-WriterGuide.pdf
, chapter 2, choosing language settings.
- Naomi
OK, have the First Page setup worked out, thanks.
In tools options language settings my user interface is 'default' as the
only other
Have you tried this?
1.
Choose *Format - Sections*
vnd.sun.star.help://swriter/text/swriter/01/0217.xhp?Language=en-USSystem=WINUseDB=no.
2.
In the *Section *list, click the section you want to modify.
3.
Do one of the following:
*
To convert a
Ew. Apologies for the yucky formatting of previous email.
Have you tried this?
1.
Choose *Format - Sections*
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There's a few different options I can think of:
* You could update to OOo 2.0, which will mean you can share
documents very easily
* You could update to OOo 1.1.5, which can read .odt files (right,
people? but if he's using features not available in 1.1.5, his
documents
Rodney D. Myers wrote:
Well, thanks for the fun, but looks like it's time to move Abi-Word,
since OO is determined to use RPM's from this point forward.
Now to get out off of the list. I use to recommend OO over everything
else. Not now
Eh?
I'm assuming you're wanting a sympathetic audience
Is it just me, or does the new OOo 2.0 use nasty amounts of memory under
Windows? I've been using the betas for months... but I've never seen the
memory usage hit 220Mb as soon as I open a particular document (in beta
versions, it used around 70-80Mb on first opening). A blank document, on
the
CPHennessy wrote:
CPH - why does that matter? I thought style ref's didn't work in OOo,
period. Don't they need to be converted (manually) to chapter refs instead?
(apologies if I'm completely misled.. :) )
Hi Naomi
Sorry, I did not know what a style reference was and assumed that it was no
How can I set up a footer so that the name of the memorandum is against the
left margin and the page number is flush-right?
Setting the tabstops in the footer comes to mind as a solution.
... as long as Dennis knows that you can set a tab to be right-aligned!
:-) Set a tab by putting
I'm sure someone else can give you a better answer, but in the
meantime... have you tried linking them, rather than embedding? I used
to have troubles galore with MS Word and linked images, but OOo Writer
seems to behave better when images are linked, rather than embedded.
(NOTE: Could just
I don't think it's Every time you install - I think it's every time he start
the program. It's not supposed to work like that.
Unless I've totally misread the OP (which is possible), I think I can fully
understand his frustration.
-Chad Smith
I wonder if he's set the registration option to
CPHennessy wrote:
What version of OpenOffice.org are you using ?
What version of MSWord was last used on the file ?
CPH - why does that matter? I thought style ref's didn't work in OOo,
period. Don't they need to be converted (manually) to chapter refs instead?
(apologies if I'm completely
RDMcBride wrote:
Thank you, Naomi and CPH;
You're welcome :-)
Your patience in dealing with underfed PC users as myself is
extraordinary.
When I have time, I like to help out people who make polite requests for
help. Some days they seem to be a dying breed...
When you say, Word
Just a quick note re: OOo and PDF... it creates mostly 'universally'
readable PDFs (some people seem to have trouble, esp. on Macs). Previous
versions of the 2.0 beta builds create a PDF that may not be writable by
Adobe Acrobat. ie, you can create the PDF, you can read the PDF, but you
might
Hi Richard,
Different programs use different formats to create the look of a
document or spreadsheet or whatever. The 'file type' CPH mentioned is a
(relatively) technical term for just that - eg. Word uses a 'doc' file
type, and files using that format have a '.doc' extension after the file
Hi John,
Have you tried using Paste as Special (ctrl-shift-v)? That should allow
you to paste as plain text.
- Naomi
I have a calc sheet with numbers and text, no formulas (chart of accounts).
I would like to save it as a text file to be edited by oo writer. There is a
help index item
Hmmm. So you're using 1.1.4? I'm using the 2.0 beta builds of OOo, so
sometimes I'll suggest functionality that isn't available in earlier
versions - apologies if I stuff people up by doing so.
So, John... what format did you select to paste as? Plain text? Sounds
peculiar :-/ If you
Add a caption, which should automatically create a frame for the
picture. Move the picture down (in the frame) 0.5cm or so. Voila -
caption above picture.
-Naomi
While trying to use Captions in an openoffice 2.0 document, I realised that
openoffice allows you to place caption of a picture
Hi Nathan,
If you right-click on a page number, then select Fields from the context
menu, you should be able to enter a value into the Offset field... which
will increase your page numbers by that number. Eg. Offset = 20, first
page should be page 21. My apologies if this doesn't work, as
Fred A. Miller wrote:
I'm not confused, I'd read it more than once. What I DON'T want is any
page
number on page 1, but want numbering to START on page two with the number 2.
Thanks,
Fred
You need to use Page Styles. Once you get used to the idea, it's very
easy. You need two page
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