Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-23 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/23/2005 12:01 PM, Matt wrote: > Another thing is I have several domains. One is from our dialup ISP 10 > years old. It has several email addresses that are dead and receive > nothing but junk and lots of it. About 20 pieces or more an hour. Is > there anyway I can use these to improve t

Re: Dictionary Attack

2005-03-23 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! We are receiving a lot of faked emails from outside using our own domain using Dictonary Attacks from the same source IP. Does anybody know a way (or a trap) to detect and block it ? The same source ip? What about iptables? ;) Bye, Raymond.

Re: RES: Dictionary Attack

2005-03-23 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/23/2005 4:16 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: > Daniel A. de Araujo wrote: > >>Thanks Matt. The 2nd option looks fine, but we use Postfix. Do u (or >>somebody) know how to implement this option at Postfix ? > > Try looking at smtpd_error_sleep_time and smtpd_soft_error_limit at this > page: > > htt

Re: SA Rules

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Norman Zhang wrote: > > Thanks. I guess false positives will be tagged SPAM and not be > automatically deleted? > > rewrite_header Subject [SPAM] > report_safe 0 > use_bayes 1 > auto_learn 1 Yep, unless you've got some other tool configured to delete the messages. SpamAssassin itself is cannot de

Re: SA Rules

2005-03-23 Thread Norman Zhang
Matt Kettler wrote: 200 of each. The choice of 200 is slightly arbitrary, but the basic gist is that SA can't effectively use bayes until it's seen a reasonable sample of both kinds of email. In the extreme, if you tried to use bayes after you gave it 200 spams and 0 ham messages, everything would

Re: SA Rules

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Norman Zhang wrote: > Matt Kettler wrote: > >>> I noticed I needed to train Bayes with 200 SPAM/HAM before it >>> functions. Does SA function without Bayes? >> >> >> Yes, SpamAssassin can run without bayes. > > > For Bayes training, is 200 SPAM and 200 HAM or 200 all together? 200 of each. The ch

Re: SA Rules

2005-03-23 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 02:14:38PM -0800, Norman Zhang wrote: > For Bayes training, is 200 SPAM and 200 HAM or 200 all together? each. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: If a fly has no wings would you call him a walk? pgp2n9XbVm0Fl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: SA Rules

2005-03-23 Thread Norman Zhang
Matt Kettler wrote: I noticed I needed to train Bayes with 200 SPAM/HAM before it functions. Does SA function without Bayes? Yes, SpamAssassin can run without bayes. For Bayes training, is 200 SPAM and 200 HAM or 200 all together? Regards, Norman Zhang

Re: RES: Dictionary Attack

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Daniel A. de Araujo wrote: >Thanks Matt. The 2nd option looks fine, but we use Postfix. Do u (or >somebody) know how to implement this option at Postfix ? > > Try looking at smtpd_error_sleep_time and smtpd_soft_error_limit at this page: http://www.postfix.org/rate.html I'm not really a postfi

RES: Dictionary Attack

2005-03-23 Thread Daniel A. de Araujo
Thanks Matt. The 2nd option looks fine, but we use Postfix. Do u (or somebody) know how to implement this option at Postfix ? txs Daniel. -Mensagem original- De: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: quarta-feira, 23 de março de 2005 17:24 Para: Daniel A. de Araujo Cc: user

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-23 Thread Matt
extra rules from www.rulesemporium.com/rules, auto updated with rules_du_jour. make sure the surbl URI-RBL's are active. They are. Which rule sets should I choose from those below? This domain is for a small ISP so has a diversity of users. Thanks. Matt # Here are some of the rulesets include

Re: Dictionary Attack

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Daniel A. de Araujo wrote: > Hi Guys, > > > We are receiving a lot of faked emails from outside using our own > domain using Dictonary Attacks from the same source IP. > Does anybody know a way (or a trap) to detect and block it ? Several options to deal with it, with varying degrees of effic

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-23 Thread Matt
It was cleared 6 days ago. It has 958 messages in it now. So its about 160 messages a day and not any good ones. Not quite as many as I originally thought but still a lot. The previous owner had the email account completely disabled for a couple years due to the spam. I renabled it just to

Dictionary Attack

2005-03-23 Thread Daniel A. de Araujo
Hi Guys,     We are receiving a lot of faked emails from outside using our own domain using Dictonary Attacks from the same source IP. Does anybody know a way (or a trap) to detect and block it ?   Thanks, Daniel Araujo. Esta mensagem eletronica (e qualquer anexo) e confidencial e endereca

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-23 Thread qqqq
| > Another thing is I have several domains. One is from our dialup ISP | > 10 years old. It has several email addresses that are dead and | > receive nothing but junk and lots of it. About 20 pieces or more an | > hour. Is there anyway I can use these to improve the effectiveness | > of Spamas

Re: a more effective spam defense

2005-03-23 Thread gallen
This reminded me of this page I read the other day. ;-) (no offense) http://www.rhyolite.com/anti-spam/you-might-be.html It's an amusing read if anyone hasn't seen it yet. > Two of the great things I have gleaned from this list are: > > 1. Greylisting is reported to stop upwards of 80-90% of

Re: a more effective spam defense

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Bob McClure Jr wrote: >Two of the great things I have gleaned from this list are: > >1. Greylisting is reported to stop upwards of 80-90% of the spam from > even coming in the door. The downside is the likely delays imposed > on the rest of the mail, maybe in terms of hours. > >2. Spammers se

Detailed directions for using IMAP for Bayes learning and configuring webuserprefs

2005-03-23 Thread Dan Kohn
Some folks might be interested in the updated detailed install instructions on the wiki. I've added sections on setting up a LearnAsSpam IMAP folder that's remotely processed. This is the best solution I've seen for integrating SpamAssassin with end-users on an Exchange server. http://wiki.apache

a more effective spam defense

2005-03-23 Thread Bob McClure Jr
Two of the great things I have gleaned from this list are: 1. Greylisting is reported to stop upwards of 80-90% of the spam from even coming in the door. The downside is the likely delays imposed on the rest of the mail, maybe in terms of hours. 2. Spammers seem to be attracted to secondar

Re: Ampersand in URI confuses URIDNSBL

2005-03-23 Thread Stuart Johnston
Justin Mason wrote: Stuart Johnston writes: I have been receiving pill spams lately that have an ampersand encoded in the URL. This seems to confuse URIDNSBL and results in the message passing through. A debug output shows this: debug: uri found: http://www.awt&fdaojj.com.easysimpleRx-munged.

RE: Spammers Target Secondary MX hosts?

2005-03-23 Thread Gary W. Smith
And what is the dummy record? If it's not valid (i.e. and unroutable IP such as the 10,192, 172 blocks, then it might get routed back to the client's internal network. If it's a public IP it can be worse. Say you route it to a dummy IP owned by you and there isn't anything on there and one day y

RE: Effectiveness

2005-03-23 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Matt wrote: > When I first updated to Spamassassin 3.0.2 in December it worked > great and stopped 95% of my junk. Now its down to about 65% SURBL is very effective for me. Maybe your Bayes is out of whack? Try deleting the DB and letting it reinitialize. > It sure would be nice if the rules

RE: /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock

2005-03-23 Thread Philipp Snizek
I solved the problem thanks anyway > -Original Message- > From: Philipp Snizek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Mittwoch, 23. März 2005 15:28 > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock > > I try to be a bit more specific. > > Mar 23 15:26:36 godfella

Copying Bayes DB

2005-03-23 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi, I have 2 server in the same subnet. Can I just copy the Bayes DB (seen, tokens) from 1 to another and expect it to work? I guess it will be off by a little bit. Regards, Norman Zhang

Re: Effectiveness

2005-03-23 Thread Martin Hepworth
Matt extra rules from www.rulesemporium.com/rules, auto updated with rules_du_jour. make sure the surbl URI-RBL's are active. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Matt wrote: When I first updated to Spamassassin 3.0.2 in December it worked great

Effectiveness

2005-03-23 Thread Matt
When I first updated to Spamassassin 3.0.2 in December it worked great and stopped 95% of my junk. Now its down to about 65% and seems to be getting worse. I guess its just a matter of the Spammers having a copy of there own and tweaking there spam for a low score. Has anyone else noticed thi

Re: Excessive DNS Requests

2005-03-23 Thread Nix
On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, List Mail User stipulated: > 2) If you do mone than 10K messages a day, make your server "stub" > the roots of the bl domains. I'd be amazed if this was useful: if you're querying them, your nameserver should have queried them and cached them as a side-effect of

Re: Logging not working with SA 3.0.2

2005-03-23 Thread sa-list
I think you have something here. Checking the maildroprc script shows it calling spamassassin instead of spamc. Changing this and restarting Courier now gives me log messages in the new log file defined by syslog.conf. Thanks for the insight! Matt Kettler writes: At 09:58 PM 3/22/2005, you

Re: Excessive DNS Requests

2005-03-23 Thread List Mail User
>>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 23 08:41:38 2005 >To: List Mail User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Excessive DNS Requests >... >From: Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >... >... >Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:41:22 + > >On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, List Mail

Re: Logging not working with SA 3.0.2

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
sa-list wrote: > I am using Courier and Maildrop. The scanning seems to be working > since I can see the header information and I have SA configured to > "rewrite_header" and this is happening correctly for spam with scores > higher than 5.0. > Does this answer your question? What else would you n

Which is better, DCC or Pyzor?

2005-03-23 Thread qqqq
I don't want to start a flame war but I would like to implement both. I just want to do one at a time and would like to know which is better in your opinion. TIA,

RE: /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock

2005-03-23 Thread Philipp Snizek
I try to be a bit more specific. Mar 23 15:26:36 godfella spamd[4473]: failed to load user ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scores from SQL database: SQL Error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (13) The socket is new located in /tmp/mysql.sock. I can now perfectl

/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock

2005-03-23 Thread Philipp Snizek
Hi I had to move /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock to /tmp/mysql.sock. SpamAssassin still wants to connect to /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock. This, of course, fails now. How can I change the SA config to /tmp/mysql.sock? Thanks Philipp

Re: Logging not working with SA 3.0.2

2005-03-23 Thread sa-list
I am using Courier and Maildrop. The scanning seems to be working since I can see the header information and I have SA configured to "rewrite_header" and this is happening correctly for spam with scores higher than 5.0. Does this answer your question? What else would you need to see to have a

Re: Scanning and deleting my probably-spam folder

2005-03-23 Thread NM Public
On 22 Mar 2005 Robert Markin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This should probably be obvious, but I cannot seem to come up with an easy way to quickly scan and delete the email that makes it into my spam trap folders. RH9 machine (accessed via SSH, Webmin, IMAP or POP3). Procmail sends all mail detec

Re: back where I was: why is this rule misfiring?

2005-03-23 Thread Loren Wilton
> What is going on here? Good question. > So why does spamd say that > Vicki Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> !~ /(?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL > PROTECTED])\.com/i > > I ran this through vanilla Perl and > Vicki Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =~ /(?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL > PROTECTED])\.com/i I ran b

Re: spamd doesn't use syslog after reboot on Solaris 9

2005-03-23 Thread Richard Hopkins
--On Monday, March 21, 2005 3:03 PM -0500 "Rosenbaum, Larry M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SpamAssassin v3.0.2, Perl 5.8.5 on Solaris 9 SunOS spam2 5.9 Generic_118558-02 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-4 We recently installed SpamAssassin 3.0.2 on a Solaris 9 system. We are starting spamd from /etc/rc2.

Re: Logging not working with SA 3.0.2

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:58 PM 3/22/2005, you wrote: I am having problems getting logging to work. I changed the configuration to use syslog hoping it would start logging the spamd messages. Before setting up syslog for this, I did not get any of the messages in maillog either. The syslog settings seem to be worki

Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-23 Thread Martin Hepworth
Sunny depends where the problem is and what you mean by the phishing emails getting through? 1. Ask on the MailScanner list, I'll be there too.. 2. use the free ClamAV anti-virus system, this is quite good at catchingthis stuff. 3. Do you mean the MS phishing net or actual phishing emails? -- M

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread Duncan Hill
On Wednesday 23 March 2005 03:47, List Mail User typed: > Several people have suggested it. Clearly it is just my latent > paranoia that make me think this way. (Notice, everybody adds "yet"; > Though it would take a stupid spammer to purposely target this list, such > creatures do exist. Also,

testmail

2005-03-23 Thread Philipp Snizek

Re: back where I was: why is this rule misfiring?

2005-03-23 Thread alan premselaar
Vicki Brown wrote: What is going on here? The rule header CF_NOT_FOR_METoCc !~ /(?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])\.com/i score CF_NOT_FOR_ME 0.01 describe CF_NOT_FOR_ME Neither To nor Cc me Vicki, You're using a negated OR test, you want to use a negated A

Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-23 Thread Jeff Chan
On Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 10:58:30 AM, Sunny Forro wrote: > Hello, > I've got a problem. I've got a lot of phishing attacks making it > through my mailscanner setup. I do have phishing fraud detection turned > on, and I have not modifed the phishing safe sites list. Most(if not > all) of

back where I was: why is this rule misfiring?

2005-03-23 Thread Vicki Brown
What is going on here? The rule header CF_NOT_FOR_METoCc !~ /(?:[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])\.com/i score CF_NOT_FOR_ME 0.01 describe CF_NOT_FOR_ME Neither To nor Cc me The mail Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.

Re: Scanning and deleting my probably-spam folder

2005-03-23 Thread Bob McClure Jr
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 05:00:12PM -0800, Robert Markin wrote: > This should probably be obvious, but I cannot seem to come up with an > easy way to quickly scan and delete the email that makes it into my spam > trap folders. > > RH9 machine (accessed via SSH, Webmin, IMAP or POP3). > Procmail s

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread List Mail User
>... >> > >> >This header is relatively stable: >> > >> >List-Id: >> > >> >Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com 805.964.4554 x902 >> >Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com Software Engineer >> >perl -e"map{y/a-z/l-za-k/;print}shift" "Jjhi pcdiwtg Ptga wprztg," >> > >> And t

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread jdow
From: "List Mail User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >... > >Subject: RE: How do I whitelist this list? > >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:54 -0800 > >... > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >... > > > >Loren Wilton wrote: > >> Normally this would work very well, but this list changes

Logging not working with SA 3.0.2

2005-03-23 Thread sa-list
I am having problems getting logging to work. I am using SA 3.02 on RHEL3. SA is working. Mail headers show the headers such as: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.domain.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, SGID_FROM_MTA_

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
List Mail User wrote: ... Subject: RE: How do I whitelist this list? Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:54 -0800 ... From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ... Loren Wilton wrote: Normally this would work very well, but this list changes its name and description and other characteristics so

RE: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread List Mail User
>... >Subject: RE: How do I whitelist this list? >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:25:54 -0800 >... >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >... > >Loren Wilton wrote: >> Normally this would work very well, but this list changes its name and >> description and other characteristics so often

Re: SA Rules

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Norman Zhang wrote: > Hi, > > I see that spamassassin rules are installed at > > # ls /usr/share/spamassassin/ > 10_misc.cf 20_phrases.cf30_text_fr.cf > 20_anti_ratware.cf 20_porn.cf 30_text_nl.cf > 20_body_tests.cf 20_ratware.cf30_text_pl.cf > 20_co

Scanning and deleting my probably-spam folder

2005-03-23 Thread Robert Markin
This should probably be obvious, but I cannot seem to come up with an easy way to quickly scan and delete the email that makes it into my spam trap folders. RH9 machine (accessed via SSH, Webmin, IMAP or POP3). Procmail sends all mail detected as spam by SA 3.0.0 to a "probably-spam" file in th

SA Rules

2005-03-23 Thread Norman Zhang
Hi, I see that spamassassin rules are installed at # ls /usr/share/spamassassin/ 10_misc.cf 20_phrases.cf30_text_fr.cf 20_anti_ratware.cf 20_porn.cf 30_text_nl.cf 20_body_tests.cf 20_ratware.cf30_text_pl.cf 20_compensate.cf 20_uri_tests.cf

Re: Excessive DNS Requests

2005-03-23 Thread List Mail User
>... >Subject: Excessive DNS Requests >From: lister lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > >Our ISP, Covad, is periodically claiming that we have excessive DNS >requests and is threatening to turn off our service. It's primarily due >to SA, I think. Looked around for answe

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matt Kettler wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: bayes_ignore_to users@spamassassin.apache.org (along with a whitelist_to for the same address). Doh! I guess it goes to show that AFAIK is more or less nothing :) More like, just about everything. With the number of problems you solve for people on

Re: qmailmftg7 and spamassain logs

2005-03-23 Thread ip.guy
Matt Kettler wrote: ip.guy wrote: hi all is anyone using qmailmrtg7 to graph spamassassin stats ? i'm having problem with the logs spamassassin is trying to parse... does qmailmrtg7 looking for syslog style spamassassin logs or spmad specific logs? if it's looking for spamd logs, where are they

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread Matt Kettler
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > bayes_ignore_to users@spamassassin.apache.org > > (along with a whitelist_to for the same address). Doh! I guess it goes to show that AFAIK is more or less nothing :)

Re: Bayes DB does not grow anymore

2005-03-23 Thread jdow
From: "Kai Schaetzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > in a degree I have set my SA score to be more or less equal with the > > BAYES_99 score (around 8). > > Your BAYES_99 score is 8? I would never do this. General rule is that no single > rule should be able to mark a message as ham or spam. That cries fo

Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-23 Thread Loren Wilton
> From: "David B Funk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I augmented 70_sare_spoof.cf to improve its coverage, added more > bank sites we've seen (EG: wamu.com, huntington.com, keybank.com > hiberniainfo.com, etc). If yould' be willing to share your rule enhancements with the rest of the community, we'd be

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Matt Kettler wrote: This is exactly what i am trying to prevent. I really couldnt care less if the list messages get marked as spam. What i DONT want to happen is list messages to get autolearned as ham. Am i correct in saying that adding the whitelist_from_rcvd will not prevent this from happen

Re: Phishing attempts getting through.

2005-03-23 Thread Loren Wilton
Are you using the SARE anti-spoof rules? We catch the ebay stuff pretty well. Loren

Re: Bayes DB does not grow anymore

2005-03-23 Thread Kai Schaetzl
GRP Productions wrote on Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:38:29 +0200: > It seems SURBL is now enabled by default. It has also changed its name to > URIDNSBL :-) SURBL refers generally to those xx_SURBL rules and to URIDNSBL since the only other distributed rules is SBL and SURBL started it all. I do not

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread List Mail User
>... >"whitelist_from_rcvd [EMAIL PROTECTED] apache.org" worked when I used static >whitelists. > >I had a bunch of similar entries for various mailing lists in a big >whitelists.cf file in /etc/mail/spamassassin > > >-- >Eric A. Hallhttp://www.ehsco.com/ >

RE: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Loren Wilton wrote: > Normally this would work very well, but this list changes its name and > description and other characteristics so often (and without any > announcement whatever!) that it was impossible to keep up with > list-of-the-day syndrome. This header is relatively stable: List-Id:

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread jdow
From: "Robert Markin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hey everybody, > > RH9 > SA 3.0.0 (invoked by procmail spamc/spamd) > Sendmail 8 > Procmail > > I tried to search for this on GMANE but was unsuccessful. > > I would like to know how some of you guys are whitelisiting this actual > mailing list. I h

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread Loren Wilton
> I'll mention this again since i have yet to come up with a solution. > While the above works great for people using procmail, does anyone have > a solution that works without procmail? Im stuck passing all list > traffic through SA because of this. Just this morning someone on this I had a man

Re: How do I whitelist this list?

2005-03-23 Thread List Mail User
>... >> >> I'll mention this again since i have yet to come up with a solution. >> While the above works great for people using procmail, does anyone have >> a solution that works without procmail? Im stuck passing all list >> traffic through SA because of this. Just this morning someone on t