Re: Default SpamAssassin scores don't make sense

2006-11-06 Thread List Mail User
... That's where the human tweaking is supposed to happen; if gobs of spam flag the 80% meter of some test while no ham does, and the 90% meter is almost never hit by anything, it should have a higher value than the 80% meter does. If the 90% meter has more ham than spam despite the 80% meter

Re: Scoring PTR's

2006-10-24 Thread List Mail User
... On 10/23/2006 7:01 PM, John Rudd wrote: Eric A. Hall wrote: http://www.ehsco.com/misc/spamassassin/std_compliance.cf might help or work for what you're doing. Make sure to read the disclaimers and warnings Those helped a lot. There's only three checks I can't do with them (probably

Re: Moderator: User needs to be unsubscribed...

2006-10-03 Thread List Mail User
... To: users@spamassassin.apache.org From: Evan Platt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moderator: User needs to be unsubscribed... ... For every post, I'm getting: Subject: Autoreply from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (was Re:perl hogging my memory? ) Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tom Van Overbeke is out of the office.

2006-10-02 Thread List Mail User
the junk went to each poster instead of the list: ... Subject: Tom Van Overbeke is out of the office. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List Mail User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:28

Re: internal/trusted again, MSA tested for SPF ?

2006-06-29 Thread List Mail User
... Mark Martinec wrote: As required per docs, the MTA is considered trusted and internal, and MSA is declared trusted and NOT internal. (both MSA and MTA are on the same IP network) ... Is it normal that our own MSA ip address is being submitted for RBL tests? It' normal, in the sense

Re: [dns-operations] negative caching of throwaway spam domains

2006-06-26 Thread List Mail User
I wonder if it is pure coincidence or not - There seems to have been an upswing in the use of 0-day domains today (which don't get caught by DOB - e.g. stedatlan.com-M olpartmen.com-M in the past hour). But we still have the various BLs, so these are still high scoring spams:-)

Re: [Fwd: Re: [dns-operations] negative caching of throwaway spam domains]

2006-06-22 Thread List Mail User
... Jeff Chan wrote: On Thursday, June 22, 2006, 10:35:10 AM, Ken A wrote: Rick Wesson over at Alice's Registry has a dnsrbl listing recently registered domains (see below). I thought this might be of interest to SA users. Anyone used this, or other rbl with similar functions? Scoring?

Re: The Future of Email is SQL

2006-06-14 Thread List Mail User
... Well - I'm a member of the Exim cult - but if something better comes along I might convert. :) And you're not even British:) Actually I count Exim in the short list of well done and readily usable/useful MTAs (i.e. works as expected, not can be made to work). Still, I'm partial to

Re: New spam type - sender domain quickly deleted

2006-06-13 Thread List Mail User
... On Montag, 12. Juni 2006 10:03 Jamie L. Penman-Smithson wrote: On 12 Jun 2006, at 07:53, Michael Monnerie wrote: yesterday I've got some new kind of spam: X-Envelope-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from abruxateatro.com (unknown [210.245.161.31]) by power2u.goelsen.net

Re: Gmail spam

2006-06-09 Thread List Mail User
... Is anyone else getting spam from gmail? The ones I'm getting are very lengthy but doesn't look like bayes poison. headers Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from mail2.adventureaquarium.com ([10.0.0.205]) by MAIL-I.adventureaquarium.com with Microsoft

Re: DNS Blacklist Policy Design

2006-06-05 Thread List Mail User
... Here's what I'm trying. I'm using MyDNS but added a few fields. Basically I'm createing a white list and a black list. The while list merely prevents an IP from getting on the black list. An IP gets on the whitelist for 12 hours and on the blacklist for 4 hours. The idea being to prevent

Re: DNS Blacklist Policy Design

2006-06-05 Thread List Mail User
... From: List Mail User [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this would use up 6 bits and still leave 17 for any other purposes you have in mind (assuming codes from 127.0.0.2 to 127.0.0.126). Uses up 6 of the 7 bits in that range, Paul. Did you mean 127.0.0.2 through 127.255.255.254? {o.o

Re: DNS Blacklist Policy Design

2006-06-05 Thread List Mail User
... From: List Mail User [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... From: List Mail User [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this would use up 6 bits and still leave 17 for any other purposes you have in mind (assuming codes from 127.0.0.2 to 127.0.0.126). Uses up 6 of the 7 bits in that range, Paul. Did you mean 127.0.0.2

RE: DNS Blacklist Policy Design

2006-06-05 Thread List Mail User
... Paul, I've always thought of you as chief scientist among everyone on the spam assassin list... I've seen you dissect the inner mysterious workings of a spam like no other... uncovering the spammer's tracks like a superhero FBI agent meticulously piecing together data from the forensics lab.

Re: gobs of misses suddenly

2006-06-02 Thread List Mail User
... My guess is that these came in before any of razor, uribl, etc, got ahold of them. I just checked them all: score=3D43.64 score=3D16.961 score=3D24.61 score=3D13.893 score=3D10.81 score=3D34.878 score=3D39.367 score=3D23.321 score=3D41.673 score=3D47.624 score=3D36.642 score=3D14.435

Re: Hiring for Spam Assassin Troubleshooting

2006-06-02 Thread List Mail User
You have a bunch of problems; You have no PTR record for your MXs except to the dead end of worldfamousgiftbaskets.net - That domain has bogus Whois/registration data (i.e. Not Given is invalid). Also that domain has no 'A' or 'MX' records. Your NS records in the TLD zone files don't

Re: false scoring for DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE

2006-05-26 Thread List Mail User
... On Thursday 25 May 2006 21:31, Kai Schaetzl took the opportunity to write: Jamie L. Penman-Smithson wrote on Thu, 25 May 2006 17:12:07 +0100: .de does not have a working WHOIS server, that's fundamentally broken: No, *your* whois client is outdated and broken. snip And this is not the

Re: false scoring for DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE

2006-05-26 Thread List Mail User
... From: Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jamie L. Penman-Smithson wrote on Fri, 26 May 2006 00:52:39 +0100: After some research, I came to the conclusion that .de is, indeed, still broken: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc3912.txt And *where exactly* does this RFC say that the whois

Re: Fast WHOIS lookup

2006-05-13 Thread List Mail User
I'm doing some research using WHOIS to find the owners of domains in the URI blocklists and finding that many of them have the same owners. I thing that a database of owners of the URIs that spam links to could be extremely useful in detecting spam.. I;m seeing that a huge amount of spam is

RE: My only problem with URIBL_BLACK

2006-05-09 Thread List Mail User
... What are your thoughts guys? Lower the score for URI_BLACK and JP? seriously? the domains is 3 days old and is unreachable, and uses outfitter.net NS's which appear to have an identity crisis. April 25th, ns1.outfiter.net 206.173.156.105 ns2.outfiter.net 24.98.13.40 April

RE: Tinurl being abused by spammers.. (leo/badcow)

2006-05-02 Thread List Mail User
... For the last week, I feel like I should receive a paycheck from Geocities! All I've been doing is submitting damn redirect web pages. I even did some testing and found some sites listed in NANAS as far back as 5 days that were still active. The source code for these pages use at most 3-4

Re: why is that the same sendin server is seen differently by spam assassin

2006-05-02 Thread List Mail User
... I run mail on the secondary server against 3 RBLs (the slightly slower response is the price they pay for going to the secondary), which things things out, but running a second implementation of SA on the secondary is not something I really considered. Do most people run SA or something

Re: OR NOT Logic

2006-05-02 Thread List Mail User
... I believe that's a fundamental logic rule, so yes. A B == ~A || ~B --Russell Almost: -- Not to confuse things with C's short ciruit operations | v ( A and B ) equals ( not ( ( not A ) or ( not B ) ) ) ^

Re: Those Re: good obfupills spams

2006-04-29 Thread List Mail User
... Matt Kettler replied: John Tice wrote: Greetings, This is my first post after having lurked some. So, I'm getting these same RE: good spams but they're hitting eight rules and typically scoring between 30 and 40. I'm really unsophisticated compared to you guys, and it begs the

Re: Those Re: good obfupills spams

2006-04-28 Thread List Mail User
... Bart Schaefer wrote: The largest number of spam messages currently getting through SA at my site are short text-only spams with subject Re: good followed by an obfuscated drug name (so badly mangled as to be unrecognizable in many cases). The body contains a gappy-text list of several other

Re: Those Re: good obfupills spams (uridnsbl's, A records vs NS records)

2006-04-28 Thread List Mail User
Neat stuff Paul.. I'll have to try it out. That said, technically, doesn't this really look up the IP address by fetching the NS record, not the A record of the URI? (this would catch domains hosted at the same nameserver, not domains hosted at the same server IP address) Or has SA changed and

Re: help required in blocking this spam

2006-04-18 Thread List Mail User
Leo's pill domains. Feed several to sa-learn (gets you a high BAYES score), make sure that net tests are enabled and do use digests (DCC, Razor and Pyzor); Then these spam will get 30+ point scores. Even with no net tests, your example scores 4 points without BAYES, so training BAYES

Web page scraping software

2006-04-11 Thread List Mail User
Hi, Is anyone here familiar with the web page email address scraping software sold at: http://newsman.asp.be/featuresu.jsp ? I only found this because one of their programmers, subscribed to this list (i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]), is running an out-of-office auto-responder

Re: Cathy Caparula emails

2006-04-06 Thread List Mail User
... Anyone else seeing these? These are really one of the very few things that are still sneaking through: How are you, Cathy Caparula ME dical Ree-fill for Cathy Caparula is ready. Please re-confirm your information. http://geocities.com/VickieBarrett4208 Your order info as per our

Re: Is Spamassassin failing math?

2006-04-05 Thread List Mail User
... Loren Wilton wrote: 3 decimal places, not 3 significant digits. ie: 10.001 has 5 significant digits, but 3 decimal places. AFAIK there are no SA rules with scores more exact than 3 decimal places. So, no.. you would not have any rounding issues at that point. Yes you would, or

Re: Amusing spam

2006-04-01 Thread List Mail User
... I'm not sure if this on was a legitimate spam or if it was a troll from someone that didn't like this company... Loren ... They look like a quite legitimate company, but a little sloppy (check out the registration for cyberservicesllc.com - which is them also). They appear

Re: Broken FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK checks

2006-03-31 Thread List Mail User
... Michael Monnerie wrote: Hi, I get some legitimate newletter that's incorrectly marked as FORGED_OUTLOOK. Could someone fix that tests? Others may have that problem, too. (almost) full message at http://zmi.at/x/ham01.txt mfg zmi Are you sure that is a valid OE-email? Doesn't appear to

Re: Trusted or internal networks not recognized

2006-03-29 Thread List Mail User
... mouss wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: While daryl's comment here isn't entirely on the mark, it is close. Daryl, read the docs closer. SA does accept this format. Stephan, If you want to do an implied mask to cover a whole, you MUST end in a . ie: you must use 10. not 10. If you fail to

Re: Adult spam hitting only Bayes

2006-03-25 Thread List Mail User
I have three samples of what looks like the same adult spam. When I first received it, it scored 0 points. Training on the first sample now scores Bayes_99, but nothing else. Each sample adds itself to DCC, but subsequent ones are not hitting DCC at all, until I train on those. I can add

Re: exceptions

2006-03-24 Thread List Mail User
Larry wrote: Can I blacklist a domain but make an exception for one person in that domain? Like; blacklist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the exception of [EMAIL PROTECTED] blacklist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] won't blacklist [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now blacklist_from

Re: Out of curiosity, anyone know which spam gang these scum are?

2006-03-12 Thread List Mail User
... Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mx-103.gdicustomers2.ws (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id 32Nhzj9ndZMB.) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat Mar 11 05:40:17 2006) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED])) Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:40:17 PST From: Scott Gillespie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Latest spammers' trick - email address in body instead of url

2006-03-11 Thread List Mail User
... ... Thoughts, anyone? Um... SA should already be treating email addresses in the body as URIs... Are you sure yours isn't looking up the offending domains agianst the URIBLs you're using? I don't believe that's accurate. I know Jeff C. argued that it wasn't what SURBL was intended for

Re: intimidation from spammer

2006-03-04 Thread List Mail User
... Paul Shupak: Very nice disection/research of that spam! I learned much just from your message. I really appreciate the time you took if only that it helps me (and probably some others...) learn a bit more about how to investigate these types of e-mails. This thread was well worth it just

Re: Blah blah customer/viewer #123456789

2006-03-03 Thread List Mail User
interambulacrums com - brand new domain, private registration. But the name servers at ns[12].ECBOLINE-com - Whois address checked at USPS ( http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp ): This address is NON-DELIVERABLE 225 N GUADALUPE ST STE 239 239 SANTA FE NM 87501

Re: URIBL_SBL

2006-03-02 Thread List Mail User
Hi All, A specific message is hitting the following rule: * 5 URIBL_SBL Contains an URL listed in the SBL blocklist * [URIs: annealbatross.org] The sender would like to know how to fix it and i am unable to find any reference anywhere on the procedure stating how to go

Re: FP on URIBL_JP_SURBL + URIBL_SBL

2006-02-27 Thread List Mail User
4dquiz-com (dot instead of dash) is getting DNS service from orderbox-dns_com ('_' instead of '.') - This makes them immediately suspect; Some of the subdomains and servers in that domain are strictly black, others are grey - They have been widely discussed in some non-public forums

Re: Spammy left his index open

2006-02-21 Thread List Mail User
Cute registration too - name BUSINESGROUPNY, address in New York, but the address is only valid if you change HILLSIDE, NY to HILLSIDE, NJ. (The excellent USPS site at http://zip4.usps.com/zip4/welcome.jsp gives up this data in a few seconds). Paul Shupak [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Annoying spammer

2006-02-20 Thread List Mail User
Evan, The spammer is Taiwan Media (Telecom long ago) Ltd. They're using the domain swzo.com-MUNG with Whois/registration contacts email account at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and DNS from ns[12].0l23.com-MUNG. They are listed in Spamhaus' ROKSO with more data there - friends/associates of

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread List Mail User
List Mail User wrote: winterizewithscotts.com Scott's lawncare registered user updates. Matt, winterizewithscotts.com looks like a case of affiliate spamming or misuse of sweepstakes entries. See: http://forums.gottadeal.com/archive/index.php/t-14640.html http

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread List Mail User
... Matt, In each case, normal HTML gives a referrer page, so no affiliate ID is needed. Paul.. None of those pages contain a link. The user would have to copy-paste or hand-type the url. That would defeat any referrer mechanism. Also, whether cutpaste generates a

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User wrote: Paul.. None of those pages contain a link. The user would have to copy-paste or hand-type the url. That would defeat any referrer mechanism. Also, whether cutpaste generates a referral all depends on your browser and the setting used in some (e.g. Opera

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-19 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User wrote: Huh? (Lookup strawman in a dictionary, please.) That's my understanding of what you were claiming happened. Yes, it looks like an absurdly weak argument. However, it's the argument you presented, as best I can make sense of your posts. Or are you admitting that you

RE: A Spam Message That Got Through!

2006-02-18 Thread List Mail User
... On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 08:45 -0700, Gary V wrote: Without the entire message I don't think anyone can determine if there is some problem with your system, or if this particular spam simply scored low because the spammer is good at what they do. BTW, it is helpful to see what rules

Re: URIBL_BLACK + OB_SURBL double-listed nonspam domain

2006-02-18 Thread List Mail User
winterizewithscotts.com Scott's lawncare registered user updates. Matt, winterizewithscotts.com looks like a case of affiliate spamming or misuse of sweepstakes entries. See: http://forums.gottadeal.com/archive/index.php/t-14640.html

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-16 Thread List Mail User
After all this arguing about whether a URI can be over-weighted (or if a group of related lists are), on one of my local servers I tested the short message (with the URL intact) with arbitray innocuous headers:

Re: Over-scoring of SURBL lists...

2006-02-16 Thread List Mail User
... Yes, but Paul, quoting real spam domain's isn't the real problem here. The problem is the same thing happens to nonspam domains. In the past month it's happened to me TWICE that a nonspam domain got misreported to two different URIBLs. One of them, as mentioned before, is an update site

Re: SURBL

2006-01-14 Thread List Mail User
... On Friday, January 13, 2006, 10:12:40 AM, Irina Irina wrote: Hello Matt and all, I enabled SURBL checks on a secondary server yesterday. It catches spam so great that I like it very much. Today I enabled it on our main server... Queue started to grow, messages were piling up. I had

Re: [OT] Paypal scam emails

2006-01-14 Thread List Mail User
... If you ever made a payment or received one via paypal the address would not be private. -- Mr Michele Neylon ... Yes, but how to connect a paypal tagged email, an eBay account name and an eBay email contact account. Clause 'C' of the PayPal privacy policy says that your PayPal email

Re: Ohya

2006-01-08 Thread List Mail User
===8--- Make it happen! Here : www.rektoky ,ohya add .com ^_^ ===8--- Slips past the filters. sigh {^_^} Looks like a relatively new pair of ROKSO members, Brian Fabian/Gregory Parsons. Mostly pills and porn from Canada - largely hosted on zombies. The name servers at

RE: URIBLFP? [Was: SA or Commercial AntiSpam products]

2006-01-07 Thread List Mail User
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:31 PM To: mouss Cc: Jeff Peng; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: URIBLFP? [Was: SA or Commercial AntiSpam products] mouss wrote: (top posting because not a reply:)

Re: URI's and geocities subwebs..

2006-01-06 Thread List Mail User
... Is their a way to get the URI's to look at stuff like this?? I'm seeing = more and more spam with these kinds of things in them to get by URI = detection.. http://asia.geocities.com/april19781matt1487 Thanks, Billy ... Not that it answers your question, but this is Robert Soloway

Re: Kinda O/T: Block Return-Path: mail?

2006-01-06 Thread List Mail User
... I'm getting quite a bit of spam with Return-Path: in the headers. Will I likely see valid e-mail with this? Searching my previous mail, it appears to all be bounce warnings. If so, what's the best way to just blackhole this? I have postfix, and put /Return-Path: / Reject in the

Re: Poor James McCalla.... snicker

2006-01-06 Thread List Mail User
... Seems he's been tagged for $11.2 BILLION for sending 280 million spams to a small Iowa based ISP. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28733 http://www.qctimes.net/articles/2006/01/04/news/local/doc43bb692ac9e86281138542.txt#top And he's apparently unknown to Rokso! {O.O} He may not

Re: Google search as spam URI

2006-01-04 Thread List Mail User
... This drug spam message body seems problematic, since the URI is google, being used to search for the spammer's. Naturally the actual spammer domain bluevallet.com is blacklisted. This showed up Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:45:48 +0100 ... Leo is good at finding new forms of abuse. The

Re: correct way of whitelisting mailing lists

2006-01-04 Thread List Mail User
Many people have opinioned: Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães a écrit : SA ML, and several others, maintain From address as the original sender of the message, which made me have some troubles whitelisting it. I tought using whitelist_from, but it wouldnt work because there's no

Re: correct way of whitelisting mailing lists

2006-01-04 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User a écrit : Many people have opinioned: Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães a écrit : SA ML, and several others, maintain From address as the original sender of the message, which made me have some troubles whitelisting it. I tought using whitelist_from, but it wouldnt

Re: spamer spoofing SA headers

2005-12-28 Thread List Mail User
... Paul, the procmail script Loren and I use simply strips it out. I've read too many folks on this list talk about scanning outbound for one reason or another to figure premarking is a good spam sign. Of course, there are odd cases to consider. Suppose somebody honest or at least passing

Re: SA FP on a gfi newsletter

2005-12-28 Thread List Mail User
... mouss wrote, ... Adding a 2.798 just because mail comes from a misconfigured ISP may be too much if the sender uses a semi-broken mailer (the gfi NL is an example, but I've seen worst!) and these ISPs are aware of the situation since long, so it doesn't seem they are doing anything to

Re: spamer spoofing SA headers

2005-12-27 Thread List Mail User
At 08:48 AM 12/27/2005, Jonn R Taylor wrote: How can I make this go thourgh SA when it thinks it allready has Why wouldn't it go through SA? SA doesn't have any built-in behaviors that will prevent it from re-scanning a message. Did you do something in your procmailrc to cause procmail to

Re: SARE_URI_EQUALS false positives

2005-12-27 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User wrote on Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:46:00 -0800 (PST): How about the case of http=3A=2F=2Fwww=2Ecnn=2Ecom=2F2003=2F inside of HTML? i.e. http://www.cnn.com/2003/ - from a phishing spam, the full line was: You mean it displayed like this in the mail agent *after* Q decoding

Re: SA FP on a gfi newsletter

2005-12-27 Thread List Mail User
... I recently got an FP for an (opted in) gfi.com newsletter. X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.454 required=5 tests=[BLANK_LINES_70_80=1.236, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.479, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.44, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=1.052, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,

Re: spamer spoofing SA headers

2005-12-27 Thread List Mail User
... You can only safely skip messages with an X-Spam-Status: that reads yes, due to the fact that you can't trust it. Of course, spammers can always forge a X-Spam-Status: on themselves that declares the message to be spam, but if they do.. more power to em.. Or even better, you can check

Re: SA FP on a gfi newsletter

2005-12-27 Thread List Mail User
... I recently got an FP for an (opted in) gfi.com newsletter. X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.454 required=5 tests=[BLANK_LINES_70_80=1.236, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE=0.479, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.44, DNS_FROM_RFC_WHOIS=0.879, FROM_EXCESS_BASE64=1.052, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,

Re: SARE_URI_EQUALS false positives

2005-12-26 Thread List Mail User
... Mouss, List Mail User a écrit : updated.by - check http://www.tld.by/cgi-bin/registry.cgi You'll see that update.by is a registered domain! Therefore updated.by is indeed a URI. QED the question is: if foo.example-DEMUNGED is listed in uribl/surbl, does that make

Re: SARE_URI_EQUALS false positives

2005-12-26 Thread List Mail User
... Is foo.tld=bar a valid hostname part in a URI? I doubt that. now, would a MUA show that as a URI followed by bar? I think that SA should provide an option to enable/disable: uri_broken_mua, so that people not caring for broken MUAs can avoid such false positives. How about the case

Re: SARE_URI_EQUALS false positives

2005-12-23 Thread List Mail User
updated.by - check http://www.tld.by/cgi-bin/registry.cgi You'll see that update.by is a registered domain! Therefore updated.by is indeed a URI. QED Paul Shupak [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Using Dig for RBL lookups.

2005-12-22 Thread List Mail User
... So far, so good. Everything I'm trying gives me an NXDOMAIN response, though. Anyone have a couple of IPs that are on Spamhaus that I could use for testing purposes? -Aaron Boyles ITC Applications Programmer Almost all RBLs (not RHSBLs) will respond to the test point 127.0.0.2. In

RE: Using Dig for RBL lookups.

2005-12-22 Thread List Mail User
... Ah, List, Matt, and Dallas, thanks all. Used all of them to get the answer I was looking for. So simply parsing the the Answer section to see if there was a 127.0.0.2 response should verify for me, it seems. I also vaguely remember reading something about .4 and .6 responses as well. Anyone

Re: Public Blacklists?

2005-12-21 Thread List Mail User
... On a side note, is anyone very familiar with any protocols involving public blacklists? I'm looking for the ability to simply toss an IP at a site somewhere, and get a simple 'yes/no' response as to whether or not it's a spam IP? -Aaron Boyles ITC Applications Programmer ... Far

Re: Does tuxorama.com sound familiar to anyone?

2005-12-21 Thread List Mail User
tuxorama.com does a SMTP probe for every posting to this list and is one of the very few IPs I have firewalled off. The probes seem to always come from 81.169.185.26 (now they'll probably change IPs and I'll have to block some other IP or range), so they, while irritating are very easy to

Re: Does tuxorama.com sound familiar to anyone?

2005-12-21 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User wrote: tuxorama.com does a SMTP probe for every posting to this list and is one of the very few IPs I have firewalled off. The probes seem to always come from 81.169.185.26 (now they'll probably change IPs and I'll have to block some other IP or range), so they, while

Re: Novice question regarding mail server identity check

2005-12-19 Thread List Mail User
... On the contrary. That's exactly what it asks for. The key for understanding the requirements here is client identity. If we rewrite it this way: So we find it is actually not only *not* contained with RFC2821 any requirement that the HELO/EHLO argument match the reverse DNS record,

Re: Novice question regarding mail server identity check

2005-12-18 Thread List Mail User
... mous replied to my comments (originally directly to Kai): List Mail User a écrit : [snip] Leave the FQDN part out and you can try to base an argument on 2821, but there sections 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 simply and clearly states that Domain names are used as names of hosts and of other

Re: Novice question regarding mail server identity check

2005-12-16 Thread List Mail User
... Hi, what is the problem with putting a single computer into a hosting center, name it mycompany.com, and also let it helo as mycompany.com? Of course it should have reasonable dns entries but that's a different story Wolfgang Hamann None. In the last year I have received valid

Re: Novice question regarding mail server identity check

2005-12-16 Thread List Mail User
wrote on 16 Dec 2005 16:22:29 -: what is the problem with putting a single computer into a hosting center, name it mycompany.com, and also let it helo as mycompany.com? It's not considered an FQDN, it's a domain. Depending on how strict the helo syntax test is it will fail at this

Re: trusted_networks

2005-12-12 Thread List Mail User
... DJB is generally of the opinion that if you do not know how to properly configure your mail server, you should be hiring someone who does. So no, his software generally does not work right out of the box. opinion - not troll Personally I have some rather harsh ideas about mail server

New 'free web service' problems

2005-12-12 Thread List Mail User
Well, now to join Geocities and Tripod, we have Leo on AOL. The URL, http://hometown.aol.com/assavralloWi/immerse.html redirects to www.uditines.com, a fairly vanilla pill site (IP 61.31.214.81, listed in SBL35716). Further redirection takes you to the landing page in a subdirectory at:

Re: Scoring for MAPS

2005-12-12 Thread List Mail User
... Matt Kettler wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:13:21 -0500: Others would say they trust it explicitly and would immediately give it 10.0. If I trust it I use it at MTA level. My opinion ;-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services:

Re: Scoring for MAPS

2005-12-12 Thread List Mail User
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Matt Kettler wrote on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:12:50 -0500: There's all different degrees of trust and more ways to go about it than we can count here :) I think simpler. Either I trust it or not, so either I use it or not. :-) Kai Personally, I have yet to find a

Re: trusted_networks

2005-12-10 Thread List Mail User
... snip What's up with all those Delivered-To: headers being inserted between Received: headers. I suspect those are confusing SA. Really the best way to tell exactly what's up is to save one of those messages that false-hit ALL_TRUSTED and run it through spamassassin -D. The debug out will,

Re: A thought about phone numbers and URIBLs

2005-12-10 Thread List Mail User
Hey folks, I was having a thought about phone numbers in spam messages, and the old brain pinged an idea at me. I'd really appreciate any feedback! It occurred to me that I get a fair amount of spam which includes phone/fax numbers. It also occurred to me that given a string like

Re: SORBS

2005-11-25 Thread List Mail User
... It seems they have taken leave of their database. The Earthlink mailers have somehow gotten listed in their DUL listings. They are quite positively not DUL based. If SORBS can get this screwed up I'd suggest lowering their scores in the rules files. ===8--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dig

Re: f-secure messaging security gateway x-series??

2005-11-24 Thread List Mail User
... Am Mittwoch, 23. November 2005 23:11 schrieb jdow: From: Mathias Homann [EMAIL PROTECTED] the ProofPoint Spam Detection (TM) module uses the ProofPoint MLX(TM) technology for automated learning (pat.pend.) which in itself doesn't tell ^---

Re: Blacklists and SA

2005-11-23 Thread List Mail User
... Quin Parker wrote: Hello I was wondering if somebody could answer a question I have about SA's use of external blacklists which filter e-mail addresses. As I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong), SA can be configured to look up lists such as those held on rfc-ignorant.org,

Re: spamcop.net tactics

2005-11-23 Thread List Mail User
... On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, 3:33:47 AM, Leonard SA wrote: Hello, I have had to remove spamcop from my rbl check list. they have had some legitimate mail servers listed recently. They had the gentoo mail list listed and some other important servers which i cant see why they were

Impressive - almost 23 points for a blank zombie spam

2005-11-17 Thread List Mail User
Lots of real spam doesn't score this high. 22.9 points on SA 3.0.4. Someone's zombie ratware misfired. Is this some record for points per line - infinite. The only change was to substitute {VICTIM} for the actual account. Paul Shupak [EMAIL PROTECTED] pts rule name

Re: geocities rule?

2005-11-16 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User wrote: Of course, the originals transmogrify quite quickly and the '/?' was posted a couple of days ago. Actually it was posted a couple weeks ago. About two or three days later I started to get spams without the query string. The rule worked well for a few weeks

Re: Picture based spam

2005-11-16 Thread List Mail User
... Hi, I have setup SA 3.1 under FC4, which is working quite well. However, one type of message that still gets through is a series of mails that are made up of no text other than a varying subject, then a picture, which is black text on white, which looks exactly like an ordinary email.

Re: geocities rule?

2005-11-15 Thread List Mail User
... Unfortunately, I've had plenty of FPs with the basic *.geocities.com.. A lot of enthusiast websites of various sorts are hosted there and my users like to forward around links to them. I wonder what the effect of listing /\w\.\w\w\.geocities\.com\b/ would be? That would only catch the

Re: Blocking on tld and/or HELO with own domain

2005-11-14 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User a écrit : You're a lot more polite than I am. I prefer: my_domain.tld 550 You're lying - Trying to use my host .my_domain.tld550 You're lying - Trying to use my host I don't wanna risk being sued/beaten by some angry guy:) Its very

Re: geocities rule?

2005-11-13 Thread List Mail User
... Does anyone have a geocities rule that catches most of the spams and has few FPs? Cheers, Jeff C. -- Jeff Chan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.surbl.org/ Do you want to block the general drug spam, the SoftTab/ED spam, the porn, the penis enhancers or the stock pumpdumps (don't

Re: Blocking on tld and/or HELO with own domain

2005-11-13 Thread List Mail User
... Note that OUR domain is vlaamse-kern.com and that the sender pretends to be vlaamse-kern.com as well! you can add an SA rule, but it's easier to block this in the MTA. I don't use SM, but in postfix, this amounts to creatin a file containing things like: vlaamse-kern.com REJECT

Re: spamcop.net MIA?

2005-11-12 Thread List Mail User
... Hi All, This may not be the right forum, but I am unable to contact spamcop.nethttp://spamcop.netfolks by e-mail. I've noticed that spamcop.net http://spamcop.net is MIA, when attempting to surf to their site I receive an error message An error occurred while processing your

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-12 Thread List Mail User
... On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 10:56 -0500, Pierre Thomson wrote: A slightly more compact way to treat the final digit: bodyPROLO_LEO1 /85\,45|1\,2[12]/ bodyPROLO_LEO2 /69\,95|3\,3[23]/ New uri showed up today, so the updated rule I use is

RE: More spam getting through

2005-11-09 Thread List Mail User
... List Mail User wrote: ... I believe some people using the SARE rules report ~100 points for them (after half a day or so, they fail every net test, and very many small rules). Also, the typical ones are delivered by zombies, so often the DUL tests hit right away, and if you can afford

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