On 30 Dec 2015, at 8:37, RW wrote:
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:41:31 -0500
Bill Cole wrote:
On 29 Dec 2015, at 20:02, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
esired result.
Clearly you can do the su magic if needed.
Um, no.
Neither su nor sudo magically changes the permissions or ownership of
files.
No,
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 20:41:31 -0500
Bill Cole wrote:
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 20:02, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>
esired result.
> >
> > Clearly you can do the su magic if needed.
>
> Um, no.
>
> Neither su nor sudo magically changes the permissions or ownership of
> files.
No, but sudo allows
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:42:03 -0500
Bill Cole wrote:
> Using these facts, my learning script that runs as root and reads
> from multiple real users' Maildirs does this to learn ham:
>
>for AFILE in $HAMS ; do formail < $AFILE ; done| sudo -H -u
> $SAUSER sa-learn --ham --mbox
>
> Where
On 29 Dec 2015, at 20:02, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
On 2015-12-29 19:44 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
On 29 Dec 2015, at 18:54, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
In fact sa-learn accepts multiple named arguments on the command
line,
so the alternative I use is to go through the spambox N files at a
time
in a
On 2015-12-29 20:41 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> Neither su nor sudo magically changes the permissions or ownership of
> files. If you pass filenames as arguments they must be readable by the
> user actually running sa-learn, which is the *unprivileged* user
> handling the system-wide BayesDB
Am 30.12.2015 um 03:11 schrieb Ian Zimmerman:
On 2015-12-29 20:41 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
Neither su nor sudo magically changes the permissions or ownership of
files. If you pass filenames as arguments they must be readable by the
user actually running sa-learn, which is the *unprivileged*
On 2015-12-29 19:44 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> On 29 Dec 2015, at 18:54, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
>
> >In fact sa-learn accepts multiple named arguments on the command line,
> >so the alternative I use is to go through the spambox N files at a time
> >in a shell loop. (I have N=100 but obviously
On 29 Dec 2015, at 13:24, RW wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:42:03 -0500
Bill Cole wrote:
Using these facts, my learning script that runs as root and reads
from multiple real users' Maildirs does this to learn ham:
for AFILE in $HAMS ; do formail < $AFILE ; done| sudo -H -u
$SAUSER sa-learn
On 2015-12-29 17:50 -0500, Bill Cole wrote:
> Yes, with the advantage of using Mail::SpamAssassin::Util::secure_tmpfile()
> rather
> than whatever I happen to roll up in a bit of Q shell that I never get
> around to
> reviewing for edge cases...
>
> The main reason to do something like that is
On 29 Dec 2015, at 18:54, Ian Zimmerman wrote:
In fact sa-learn accepts multiple named arguments on the command line,
so the alternative I use is to go through the spambox N files at a
time
in a shell loop. (I have N=100 but obviously this depends.)
Which successfully ignores the original
On 29 Dec 2015, at 8:28, Jude DaShiell wrote:
With spamassassin, is it possible to have the filter show counts of
number of messages sent to spam, number of messages sent to ham, and
total number of messages processed that a user can check?
Since SpamAssassin is a suite of Perl modules and
, and total number of
> messages processed that a user can check?On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Bill Cole wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 23:42:03
>> From: Bill Cole <sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com>
>> Reply-To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
>> To: users@spam
Am 29.12.2015 um 05:42 schrieb Bill Cole:
On 28 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
The script that I use to pull the messages out of a
spam bucket invoking sa-learn runs as root which has permissions to read
from anywhere. The complication is the amavis does not have permissions
ers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com>
Reply-To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Is BAYES filtering working? Having doubts.
On 28 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
The script that I use to pull the messages out of a
spam bucket invoking sa-lear
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:38:17AM -0800, John Hardin wrote:
* you haven't also been training ham. Bayes needs sufficient examples of
both to be able to make a judgement.
Oh yes, been training ham too.
Good.
* you're somehow mistraining
Am 28.12.2015 um 23:54 schrieb Peter L. Berghold:
I think you might be on to something here. When I run
"sa-learn --dump magic"
as root and as amavis they are definitely different. Here is the result
as "root" again:
so this is going to complicate how I educate SpamAsssassin about what
I think you might be on to something here. When I run
"sa-learn --dump magic"
as root and as amavis they are definitely different. Here is the result
as "root" again:
# sa-learn --dump magic
0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version
0.000 0
I've been noticing a lot of SPAM emails coming to my account with
subject headers "Trump's Brain Secret" and similar, along with "Amazon
Gift Card" and other something for nothing sorts of emails. I keep
feeding them to sa-learn and yet they still keep popping up every other
fetch from my
On Monday 28 December 2015 at 20:27:32, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
> I've been noticing a lot of SPAM emails coming to my account
> How do I figure out where the issue is or if the learning is even
> working?
Show us the headers of the delivered email/s?
Antony.
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2015, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
I've been noticing a lot of SPAM emails coming to my account with subject
headers "Trump's Brain Secret" and similar, along with "Amazon Gift Card" and
other something for nothing sorts of emails. I keep feeding them to sa-learn
and yet they
Am 28.12.2015 um 20:27 schrieb Peter L. Berghold:
I've been noticing a lot of SPAM emails coming to my account with
subject headers "Trump's Brain Secret" and similar, along with "Amazon
Gift Card" and other something for nothing sorts of emails. I keep
feeding them to sa-learn and yet they
On 28 Dec 2015, at 17:54, Peter L. Berghold wrote:
The script that I use to pull the messages out of a
spam bucket invoking sa-learn runs as root which has permissions to
read
from anywhere. The complication is the amavis does not have
permissions
to read the Maildir files for trivial users
I have been using Mysql for bayes storage for quite some time very
successfully for quite some time. After seeing a lot of spam coming
through since upgrading I though I had better check the scoring to
see what was going on. Here's what I found:
Jan 27 10:16:27 yoda spamd[30357]: Issuing
On Wednesday January 27 2010 23:28:46 Ed Kasky wrote:
I have been using Mysql for bayes storage for quite some time very
successfully for quite some time. After seeing a lot of spam coming
through since upgrading I though I had better check the scoring to
see what was going on. Here's what I
At 03:37 PM Wednesday, 1/27/2010, Mark Martinec wrote -=
On Wednesday January 27 2010 23:28:46 Ed Kasky wrote:
I have been using Mysql for bayes storage for quite some time very
successfully for quite some time. After seeing a lot of spam coming
through since upgrading I though I had better
On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 20:53 -0500, Warren Togami wrote:
Bayes is working just fine for me on Fedora 12 with
spamassassin-3.3.0-*. What version of amavis is this?
Thats good toi know. Thanks Warren.
Martin
I recently updated my machine from Fedora 11 to Fedora 12 and I noticed
Bayes has stopped working. Couldn't get anything revealing from Spamassassin
-D -lint . I use Mysql based bayes. Any suggestions on where else to check
for problems?
Thomas E. Casartello, Jr.
Staff Assistant - Wireless
MySQL has changed. I think there's a script called mysql-upgrade that
you need to run.
Casartello, Thomas wrote:
I recently updated my machine from Fedora 11 to Fedora 12 and I
noticed Bayes has stopped working. Couldn't get anything revealing
from Spamassassin --D --lint . I use Mysql
Information Technology
Wilson 105A
Westfield State College
Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT)
From: Marc Perkel [mailto:m...@perkel.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 11:46 AM
To: Casartello, Thomas
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Bayes stopped working
MySQL has changed. I
@spamassassin.apache.org
*Subject:* Re: Bayes stopped working
MySQL has changed. I think there's a script called mysql-upgrade that
you need to run.
Casartello, Thomas wrote:
I recently updated my machine from Fedora 11 to Fedora 12 and I
noticed Bayes has stopped working. Couldn’t get anything revealing
from
- Wireless/Linux Administrator
Information Technology
Wilson 105A
Westfield State College
Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT)
-Original Message-
From: Marc Perkel [mailto:m...@perkel.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 12:05 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Bayes stopped working
To: 'Marc Perkel'; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Bayes stopped working
Yes it is working...Just found something new when running amavisd debug
plugin: eval failed: Can't call method tie_db_readonly on an undefined
value at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.0/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin
, Thomas
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 12:10 PM
To: 'Marc Perkel'; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Bayes stopped working
Any thoughts on that junk?
Thomas E. Casartello, Jr.
Staff Assistant - Wireless/Linux Administrator
Information Technology
Wilson 105A
Westfield State College
Red Hat
Thomas Casartello wrote on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:47:44 -0500:
spamassassin-3.3.0-0.26.rc1
That seems to be coming from Fedora/Rawhide? If so, I'd inquire there as
well.
Kai
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Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 2:11 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Bayes stopped working
Thomas Casartello wrote on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:47:44 -0500:
spamassassin-3.3.0-0.26.rc1
That seems to be coming from Fedora/Rawhide? If so
Thomas Casartello wrote on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:33:35 -0500:
Yes it happened immediately after upgrading to Fedora 12. I just inquired
there about this.
Yeah. Nobody really knows when this rpm was done, it may contain a bug
that's already fixed. It's also possible there's some issue with the
-
From: Kai Schaetzl [mailto:mailli...@conactive.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 3:31 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Bayes stopped working
Thomas Casartello wrote on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:33:35 -0500:
Yes it happened immediately after upgrading to Fedora 12. I just inquired
:54 PM
To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: RE: Bayes stopped working
Tried the rC3 unofficial version. Same issue. I'll try going back to 3.2.5
and see what happens.
Thomas E. Casartello, Jr.
Staff Assistant - Wireless/Linux Administrator
Information Technology
Wilson 105A
Westfield State
Thomas Casartello wrote on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:53:38 -0500:
Tried the rC3 unofficial version. Same issue.
I think you should then file a bug report at
https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/
Kai
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On Sun, 2010-01-17 at 15:57 -0500, Casartello, Thomas wrote:
Went back to 3.2.5 and that fixed it...
Thomas,
Please tell Fedora about it / add a bug on Fedora bugzilla.
I'm on Fedora 10 and, since updates dried up since the new year, need to
move to F12 Real Soon Now.
Martin
On 01/17/2010 03:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Thomas Casartello wrote on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 14:33:35 -0500:
Yes it happened immediately after upgrading to Fedora 12. I just inquired
there about this.
Yeah. Nobody really knows when this rpm was done, it may contain a bug
that's already fixed.
to
move to F12 Real Soon Now.
Martin
Bayes is working just fine for me on Fedora 12 with
spamassassin-3.3.0-*. What version of amavis is this?
Warren
the new year, need to
move to F12 Real Soon Now.
Martin
Bayes is working just fine for me on Fedora 12 with
spamassassin-3.3.0-*. What version of amavis is this?
Warren
Warren,
I believe Thomas is using amavisd-maia (from the Maia Mailguard suite),
which has not yet been updated
,
need to
move to F12 Real Soon Now.
Martin
Bayes is working just fine for me on Fedora 12 with
spamassassin-3.3.0-*. What version of amavis is this?
Warren
Warren,
I believe Thomas is using amavisd-maia (from the Maia Mailguard
suite),
which has not yet been updated for perl
/spamassassin
ENABLED=1
and /etc/spamassassin says
use_bayes 1
I don't know what else to do to get it working.
Thanks
Pat
Debian etch 32 bit
SpamAssassin version 3.2.3
running on Perl version 5.8.8
postfix
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Fishtop_records wrote:
I've got the rest of the rules based stuff working fine, but I can't seem to
get the bayesian stuff scoring.
When I run sa-learn --debug magic, you can see that there are lots of graded
messages
0.000 0 1224 0 non-token data: nspam
0.000
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I'm not sure if this is a SpamAssassin or a MIMEDefang problem. I set up MD and
SA on a new machine running CentOS, MD 2.64, SA 3.2.4. I backed up the Bayes
database on my old server, running FreeBSD, MD 2.51, SA 3.0.3, and restored it
to the new
machine. I can train it and sync it and so-on,
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On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:55:22PM -0800, jeff986 wrote:
It must be something about procmail, but.. I officially have no clue.
Comments?Ideas? Thanks.
You don't happen to have PERL5LIB or PERLLIB in your environment, do you?
Where is DB_File installed, and what's the output of perl
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl
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* Michael Parker [2007-11-27 18:10]:
On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Rene Caspari wrote:
In my case it is a bug :-)
Because I don't have any chance to get user specified bayes db working
which come from a SQL database.
Its actually a behavior change, at least for me. How are you running
nobody.
In my case it is a bug :-)
Because I don't have any chance to get user specified bayes db working
which come from a SQL database.
bye, rene
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· http://rene.ahrcas.net · Rene Caspari
On Nov 27, 2007, at 10:16 AM, Rene Caspari wrote:
In my case it is a bug :-)
Because I don't have any chance to get user specified bayes db working
which come from a SQL database.
Its actually a behavior change, at least for me. How are you running
spamd? If you are running with -q
Rene Caspari wrote:
Hi,
I'm using spamassassing 3.2.3 with userspecific rules from an SQL
database:
/etc/spamassassin/local.cf:
user_scores_dsn DBI:mysql:spamassassin:localhost
[...]
bayes_store_module Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::SQL
[...]
On Nov 19, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Andrew Hearn (AAISP) wrote:
Rene Caspari wrote:
Hi,
I'm using spamassassing 3.2.3 with userspecific rules from an SQL
database:
/etc/spamassassin/local.cf:
user_scores_dsn DBI:mysql:spamassassin:localhost
[...]
bayes_store_module
Hi,
I'm using spamassassing 3.2.3 with userspecific rules from an SQL
database:
/etc/spamassassin/local.cf:
user_scores_dsn DBI:mysql:spamassassin:localhost
[...]
bayes_store_module Mail::SpamAssassin::BayesStore::SQL
[...]
auto_whitelist_factory
Greetings,
It seems to be a common question but I haven't yet been able to figure out
what's wrong on my end with this. SpamAssassin itself is working, it's
detecting and flagging messages based on the built in rules, but Bayes seems
to be non-functioning.
I'm using SA 3.2.0, Perl 5.8.8,
Rob Wright wrote:
So far I've managed to run ~2500 messages through sa-learn over the course of
the last week or so, and I've yet to see a single log entry with a BAYES rule
match of any kind.
From your own logs:
[24761] dbg: bayes: not available for scanning, only 0 ham(s) in bayes
DB 100
Hi Rob,
At 10:23 18-06-2007, Rob Wright wrote:
[24761] dbg: bayes: DB journal sync: last sync: 1182182134
[24761] dbg: bayes: not available for scanning, only 0 ham(s) in bayes DB
100
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BayesNotWorking
Regards,
-sm
On Monday 18 June 2007 12:36, ian douglas wrote:
Rob Wright wrote:
So far I've managed to run ~2500 messages through sa-learn over the
course of the last week or so, and I've yet to see a single log entry
with a BAYES rule match of any kind.
From your own logs:
[24761] dbg: bayes: not
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 01:06:52PM -0500, Rob Wright wrote:
So, I went back to where my ham is and re-ran sa-learn on that with this
result (after first using --forget):
sa-learn --ham -C /etc/mail/spamassassin --showdots --spam --no-sync
Maildir/new
What's with the -C ?
sa-learn --dump
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Rob Wright wrote:
sa-learn --ham -C /etc/mail/spamassassin --showdots --spam --no-sync
Maildir/new
So, then, spamassassin isn't seeing the ham that I'm feeding it? Why would it
see the spam but not the ham?
--ham *and* --spam ?
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:06:52 +0200, Rob Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
sa-learn --ham -C /etc/mail/spamassassin --showdots --spam --no-sync
Maildir/new
Don't use the --spam flag when learning ham
On Monday 18 June 2007 13:15, John D. Hardin wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007, Rob Wright wrote:
sa-learn --ham -C /etc/mail/spamassassin --showdots --spam --no-sync
Maildir/new
So, then, spamassassin isn't seeing the ham that I'm feeding it? Why
would it see the spam but not the ham?
--ham
At 11:15 AM 6/18/2007, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
My guess is that you're learning into a different DB than the one you're
trying to scan from. Do a learn with -D and then a dump with -D and
compare.
I had this problem with the default install on OS X, Apple in their
infinite wisdom has two
user_awl_sql_password vscan
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I'm running amavisd-new with spamassassin and setup bayes and mysql earlier
today. It seems to connect to the db fine with user vscan when running
spamassassin -d. I ran sa-learn --spam/ham spam.txt (full email headers
too) a few times and those are the only entires in the db, the ones that I
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Gary V wrote:
I'm running amavisd-new with spamassassin and setup bayes and mysql
earlier
today. It seems to connect to the db fine with user vscan when running
spamassassin -d. I ran sa-learn --spam/ham spam.txt (full email headers
too) a few
already has that directive.
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Gary V-2 wrote:
I'm running amavisd-new with spamassassin and setup bayes and mysql
earlier
today. It seems to connect to the db fine with user vscan when running
spamassassin -d. I ran sa-learn --spam/ham spam.txt (full email
headers
too) a few times and those are the only entires in the db,
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I will try that, what exactly is the gtube string?
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I would run
amavisd stop
amavisd -d bayes debug-sa
then send a message containing the gtube string through it. Send the
message
from the outside world (smtp), not from the local machine. See what
amavisd-new thinks of Bayes.
I will try that, what exactly is the gtube string?
This is
On a new SA installation that's as identical to the other 3 we have
running as possible, bayes is not running.
spamassassin -D --lint indicates that all is normal. The test message
generates a Bayes score. sa-learn is able to talk to the mysql
database: We're able to update the database using
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Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:24 AM
To: Spamass
Subject: Bayes not working
On a new SA installation that's as identical to the other 3 we have
running as possible, bayes is not running.
spamassassin -D --lint indicates that all is normal. The test message
generates a Bayes score
[3320] dbg: bayes: corpus size: nspam = 178, nham = 168
Probably because your corpus is still too small.
man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf
...
bayes_min_ham_num(Default: 200)
bayes_min_spam_num (Default: 200)
To be accurate, the Bayes system does not activate
Andy Spiegl wrote:
[3320] dbg: bayes: corpus size: nspam = 178, nham = 168
Probably because your corpus is still too small.
man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf
...
bayes_min_ham_num(Default: 200)
bayes_min_spam_num (Default: 200)
To be accurate, the Bayes
On Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2006 16:01 Steven Stern wrote:
I imported a corpus of about 2 messages total and it wasn't
working. I blew it all away and started from scratch thinking that
was the problem. For now, local.cf has a minimum of 100 messages of
each type. The current database exceeds
Michael Monnerie wrote:
On Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2006 16:01 Steven Stern wrote:
I imported a corpus of about 2 messages total and it wasn't
working. I blew it all away and started from scratch thinking that
was the problem. For now, local.cf has a minimum of 100 messages of
each type. The
Steven Stern wrote:
Everything's tweaked to use root as the user. We do sitewide
processing since this sits on an MX server.
Do you use spamd? If so, it WILL NOT use root as the user. Ever. Period.
IS
labeled spam by spamassassin I have never noticed anything about the
rules that flagged it as being spam saying anything about a Bayes rule
being used. Is there anyway that I can test to see if Bayes is
working? Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
Charles Read
http
. But when an email IS labeled spam by
spamassassin I have never noticed anything about the rules that flagged
it as being spam saying anything about a Bayes rule being used. Is
there anyway that I can test to see if Bayes is working? Any help is
much appreciated!
If bayes is working, 90% or more
Matt Kettler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My guess is that your cron job is running as a different user than is used to
scan your mail. So you're training into one database, but scanning using a
different database.
Or the cron job is only learning spam and the auto-learn has not yet
learnt
Title: Bayes not working
I've deleted all my bayes databases and am trying to start the database from scratch.. I auto-learn..
For some reason SA sees 8 spams in the database but won't learn any more...
What files does bayes need? I have the bayes_toks and bayes_seen files, but nothing
At 01:49 PM 9/29/2004, Robert Leonard wrote:
I've deleted all my bayes databases and am trying to start the database
from scratch.. I auto-learn..
For some reason SA sees 8 spams in the database but won't learn any more...
What files does bayes need? I have the bayes_toks and bayes_seen files,
then change it.
Gary
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To: Robert Leonard; users@spamassassin.apache.org
Subject: Re: Bayes not working
At 01:49 PM 9/29/2004, Robert Leonard wrote:
I've deleted all my bayes
At 02:15 PM 9/29/2004, Gary Smith wrote:
BTW, something else to keep in mind. There is a gotcha for sa-learn.
If you happened to be logged in as root when training then the journal
file is owned by root and SA can no longer entries in bayes. Check the
ownership of the file. If it's not owned by
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