Re: Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-24 Thread jdow
ced back with a 10.4 score. No clue why, there's no spam quotes here, only one URIBL listed domain mentioned in the body report. One domain alone shouldn't be >10, even if it's listed in every URIBL in the universe) Chad, based on the difference in hits on the two scores below

Re: Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-23 Thread Matt Kettler
y URIBL in the universe) Chad, based on the difference in hits on the two scores below, it sounds like you're double-scanning the email. Make sure you don't have an MTA integration that's scanning the mail before it gets to procmail. Also, try temporarily disabling both spamc

Fwd: Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-23 Thread Chad
Missed including the list on the return ;) -- Forwarded message -- From: Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Nov 23, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Inconsistent Spam scores? To: jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 11/23/05, jdow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You need to setup

Re: Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-23 Thread jdow
You need to setup your trusted_networks and internal_networks values to get rid of ALL_TRUSTED. These values are usually stored in the /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file. Read the wiki regarding the trusted_networks setup. Trusted_networks is merely a short list of mailers from when you directl

Inconsistent Spam scores?

2005-11-23 Thread Chad
Hello! I've been googling and searching this list for a little over 2 hours now and have yet to find this problem, or a fix for it. If there is something obvious I'm missing, feel free to point me in that direction, but here goes: I recieve Spam from "Doctor" with the subject "Ultimate Online Ph

Re: Relative Kill Scores, 2.63 to 3.1?

2005-10-17 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Montag, 17. Oktober 2005 16:52 Spam Admin wrote: > So, to temporarily resolve this, I bumped our kill_level to 5.9 and > am monitoring it; my false positives have pretty much disappeared. Of > course, I've seen a *slight* increase in fasle negatives versus 2.63, > so I'll be tuning. I use 5.0 (

RE: Relative Kill Scores, 2.63 to 3.1?

2005-10-17 Thread Bowie Bailey
ing v2.63), so any advice is > sincerely appreciated. I have been marking spam at the 5.0 level for our customers and at 4.0 on my personal account since SA 2.55. I have not had to make any changes as I upgraded. If anything, spam scores are a bit higher now. The first thing to check is if the

Re: Relative Kill Scores, 2.63 to 3.1?

2005-10-17 Thread Matt Kettler
box still running > v2.63), so any advice is sincerely appreciated. > > Great work guys, Realistically, every SA version is only tuned with consideration for what happens at the 5.0 score line. The 5.0 score level should yield approximately a 100:1 FN:FP ratio. The "linearity"

Relative Kill Scores, 2.63 to 3.1?

2005-10-17 Thread Spam Admin
I've been running SA as our main inbound SMTP gateway in front of our GroupWise system for about 18 months now. I process, filter, and quarantine for the whole enterprise and do not offer individual user control. I use postfix, amavisd, SA w/ Bayes, RDJ, Razor, some minimal SMTP-level RBLs, CA

Re: Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread mouss
Andy Hester a écrit : for the info. Since I really just want to block email with certain words is there a reason I shouldn't just put some rules in header_checks and body_checks in postfix? Would this be better or worse? - postfix checks apply to the raw body (no decoding) - they are "boole

Re: Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread jdow
arefully lest you wind up blocking emails talking about unrelated subjects. SA is for when you want to tally up scores and only block emails that reach a threshold. Yes, you can "force" it to block mail by setting the score of a rule really high, but it's generally more efficient an

Re: Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
ted subjects. SA is for when you want to tally up scores and only block emails that reach a threshold. Yes, you can "force" it to block mail by setting the score of a rule really high, but it's generally more efficient and easier to set this up at the mta layer.

Re: Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
nning sare rules including 70_sare_adult.cf. I have added in local.cf "score 70_sare_adult.cf 10.00" I checked some email that came through this am and found that they scored 1.792, 4.004, and 2.548. I am trying to avoid having to adjust the scores in the individual rules and want

RE: Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Andy Hester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > > I am trying to avoid having to adjust the scores in the > > > individual rules and want to completely block emails with > > > certain words. > > > > > > Does

Re: Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread Andy Hester
Bowie Bailey wrote: I am trying to avoid having to adjust the scores in the individual rules and want to completely block emails with certain words. Does the score option in local.cf have no affect when sa is called from amavisd? Any help/suggestions would be appreciated. The score

Re: Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 09:42:47AM -0500, Andy Hester wrote: > 70_sare_adult.cf. I have added in local.cf "score 70_sare_adult.cf > 10.00" I checked some email that came through this am and found that > they scored 1.792, 4.004, and 2.548. I am trying to avoid having to

RE: Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread Bowie Bailey
aughty words. I have rdj running sare rules including > 70_sare_adult.cf. I have added in local.cf "score 70_sare_adult.cf > 10.00" I checked some email that came through this am and found > that they scored 1.792, 4.004, and 2.548. I am trying to avoid > having to adjust

Question on adjusting scores

2005-10-13 Thread Andy Hester
f. I have added in local.cf "score 70_sare_adult.cf 10.00" I checked some email that came through this am and found that they scored 1.792, 4.004, and 2.548. I am trying to avoid having to adjust the scores in the individual rules and want to completely block emails with certain wor

SpamAssassin Rules/Scores groups

2005-10-05 Thread Mark Hennessy
I want to set up a general list of scores for many rules that can then be set as scores themselves. So for example, I want to have a rule called PORN_GROUP and then put a bunch of scores in for other rules: score INTERRUPTUS 4 score LIVE_PORN 1.5 score MALE_ENHANCE 4 . . . And then somehow set a

Re: Spamc, spamassassin, different scores

2005-09-06 Thread Miguel Angel Rasero Peral (TCOR)
Yeah this was my problems, Thanks. El mar, 06-09-2005 a las 12:00 -0400, Matt Kettler escribió: > Andy Jezierski wrote: > > > > > > Are you running the spamassassin command under the same userid as spamd > > is running under? Looks like spamd is using bayes that spamassassin did > > not have, an

Re: [sa-list] Re: Spamc, spamassassin, different scores

2005-09-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> >> Definitely not. >> >> Look at the prompts. Miguel is running spamassassin as root. >> >> Miguel is running spamc as root, but spamd will *NEVER* scan mail as >> root. It >> will setuid itself to nobody if it finds this situation. > > > At least, not on a rec

Re: [sa-list] Re: Spamc, spamassassin, different scores

2005-09-06 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Matt Kettler wrote: Andy Jezierski wrote: Are you running the spamassassin command under the same userid as spamd is running under? Looks like spamd is using bayes that spamassassin did not have, and spamassassin had a negative AWL score that spamd didn't have. Definite

Re: Spamc, spamassassin, different scores

2005-09-06 Thread Matt Kettler
Andy Jezierski wrote: > > > Are you running the spamassassin command under the same userid as spamd > is running under? Looks like spamd is using bayes that spamassassin did > not have, and spamassassin had a negative AWL score that spamd didn't > have. Definitely not. Look at the prompts. M

Re: Spamc, spamassassin, different scores

2005-09-06 Thread Tim Litwiller
procmail -t -m -p ./skuda/procmailrc I know that i would be launching spamc and not spamassassin perl script but i get different scores from the 2 programs. I have this in my .qmail file | /usr/bin/procmail ~/.procmailrc and then in .procmailrc I first sort out all my mailing lists by match

Re: Spamc, spamassassin, different scores

2005-09-06 Thread Andy Jezierski
to do it. > | spamassassin | preline procmail -t -m -p ./skuda/procmailrc > > I know that i would be launching spamc and not spamassassin perl script > but i get different scores from the 2 programs. > Are you running the spamassassin command under the same userid as spamd is r

Spamc, spamassassin, different scores

2005-09-06 Thread Miguel Angel Rasero Peral (TCOR)
quot;"" The problem that i have is that i only want to launch spamassassin in my account so i am using my .qmail-file to do it. | spamassassin | preline procmail -t -m -p ./skuda/procmailrc I know that i would be launching spamc and not spamassassin perl script but i get different scor

Re: SA doesn't use my scores from local.cf

2005-08-11 Thread ddaasd
graded to SpamAssassin version 3.0.3 running on Perl version >>5.8.0. I am using in conjunction with spamass-milter - Version 0.3.0 and >>Sendmail 8.12.11. The OS is RHEL 3. > > > >>1) It seams that my customized scores from >>/etc/mail/spamassasssin/local.cf

Scores problems

2005-08-10 Thread Juan Machado
Hello,   I've been using Spamassasin for years now and it seems to be that something happened after my last OS update.   OS: RH 4 Spamassasin ver 3.0.4 Invoking via Amavis-new   3 weeks ago when we did an OS and SA update, our users started getting 50-100 spam messages a day (we're droppi

Re: SA doesn't use my scores from local.cf

2005-08-10 Thread Matt Kettler
> Sendmail 8.12.11. The OS is RHEL 3. > > 1) It seams that my customized scores from > /etc/mail/spamassasssin/local.cf don’t work. Did you restart spamd after editing this file? In order to avoid wasting CPU time, spamd only reads /etc/mail/spamassassin/*.cf when it starts up.

SA doesn't use my scores from local.cf

2005-08-10 Thread ddaasd
: 1)  It seams that my customized scores from /etc/mail/spamassasssin/local.cf don’t work.   Local.cf:   required_hits 4.5 rewrite_header Subject [SPAM] report_safe 0 score DEAR_SOMETHING 4 score DEAR_FRIEND 4   This file is read by SA (I’ve seen that from spamassassin -D -u nobody). The

Re[2]: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Herb, Thursday, July 14, 2005, 12:12:26 AM, you wrote: >> Never place new scores or rules into the >> /usr/share/spamassassin directory. They WILL get deleted or >> replaced when you update. HM> Really? I didn't know that (obviously) although I have updated HM

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Matt Kettler
Debbie D wrote: I often want to alter the scores of already set filters in the SARE and other custom filter sets.. what/where is the proper places to do this without altering each individual set which will get over-written down the road thanks You want to add them to a .cf file in

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Loren Wilton
> Thanks.. I just wanted to also verify the format of the over rides.. The score override is exactly the same format as the original score line. The word "score", the identical rule name, and the new score or scores. > For instance.. if this is the rule I want to over

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread jdow
; > describe SARE_ADLTSUB6 Apparent spam seems to contain porn subject > > scoreSARE_ADLTSUB6 3.500 # type=obfu > > > > > > I simply add to my custom or create a new custom lets say called: > > 10_custom_scores.cf > > > > scoreSARE_ADLTSUB6 8.5

RE: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Bret Miller
SARE_ADLTSUB6 3.500 # type=obfu > > > I simply add to my custom or create a new custom lets say called: > 10_custom_scores.cf > > scoreSARE_ADLTSUB6 8.500 # type=obfu > > is that correct?? Just a list of the altered scores?? > > >From your response I take it that

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Debbie D
ortant, it just needs to be in /etc/mail/spamassassin > if this is your local config dir. > >> >> scoreSARE_ADLTSUB6 8.500 # type=obfu >> >> is that correct?? Just a list of the altered scores?? > > Yes. But you don't need the comment. And if you want to disable

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Kai Schaetzl
.500 # type=obfu > > is that correct?? Just a list of the altered scores?? Yes. But you don't need the comment. And if you want to disable a rule just set it to 0. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Cente

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread jdow
- Original Message - From: "Debbie D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 2005 July, 14, Thursday 06:20 Subject: Re: Proper way to override scores > I didn't cross post that I am aware of.. I know it is poor form!! According > to my SENT box it went to: gmane.mai

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Debbie D
I didn't cross post that I am aware of.. I know it is poor form!! According to my SENT box it went to: gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general only "jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Debbie D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Debbie D
=obfu I simply add to my custom or create a new custom lets say called: 10_custom_scores.cf scoreSARE_ADLTSUB6 8.500 # type=obfu is that correct?? Just a list of the altered scores?? >From your response I take it that SA will assign the highest found score?? Not: run thru the sets in or

RE: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-14 Thread Herb Martin
a good variation on the other two methods. > Never place new scores or rules into the > /usr/share/spamassassin directory. They WILL get deleted or > replaced when you update. Really? I didn't know that (obviously) although I have updated several (minor) versions of SpamAssassin

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-13 Thread jdow
From: "Debbie D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I often want to alter the scores of already set filters in the SARE and > other custom filter sets.. what/where is the proper places to do this > without altering each individual set which will get over-written down the > road By

Re: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-13 Thread jdow
From: "Herb Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -Original Message- > > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie D > > > > I often want to alter the scores of already set filters in > > the SARE and other custom filter sets.. w

RE: Proper way to override scores

2005-07-13 Thread Herb Martin
> -Original Message- > From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie D > > I often want to alter the scores of already set filters in > the SARE and other custom filter sets.. what/where is the > proper places to do this without altering each individual set

Proper way to override scores

2005-07-13 Thread Debbie D
I often want to alter the scores of already set filters in the SARE and other custom filter sets.. what/where is the proper places to do this without altering each individual set which will get over-written down the road thanks

Re: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 --> scores 3.9

2005-07-06 Thread Loren Wilton
Perhaps it is causing fps because of something else in your mail path. For instance, if you have a virus scanner that inserts oddly-formatted Received: headers this sort of rule will often end up triggering, since you have managed to reproduce a typical spammer indication, presumably unintentional

RE: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 --> scores 3.9

2005-07-06 Thread Philipp Snizek
> > pts rule name description > > -- > > -- > > [..snip..] > > 3.9 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS > > Outlook > > [..snip..] > > > > > > When changing X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlo

Re: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 --> scores 3.9

2005-07-06 Thread Christian Recktenwald
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 02:07:39PM +0200, Philipp Snizek wrote: > Hi > > > pts rule name description > -- > -- > [..snip..] > 3.9 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS > Outlook > [..sn

X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 --> scores 3.9

2005-07-06 Thread Philipp Snizek
Hi pts rule name description -- -- [..snip..] 3.9 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook [..snip..] When changing X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 to X-Mailer: Micr

Re: Spamassassin not assigning scores?

2005-07-05 Thread jdow
Not if your "vilter" strips off the markup and applies its own. At this point I'd ask the "vilter" experts. {o.o} - Original Message - From: "Mike Keller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After rebuilding my sendmail.cf with the following: INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`smtp-vilter', `S=unix:/var/smtp-vilter/sm

RE: Spamassassin not assigning scores?

2005-07-05 Thread Andy Jezierski
"Mike Keller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/05/2005 02:32:29 PM: > After rebuilding my sendmail.cf with the following: >   > INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`smtp-vilter', `S=unix:/var/smtp-vilter/smtp- > vilter.sock, F=T, T=C:15m;S:10m;R:10m;E:15m') >   > I am still getting some messages in that ha

RE: Spamassassin not assigning scores?

2005-07-05 Thread Mike Keller
amassassin 3.0.4 on Perl 5.8.6 on OpenBSD 3.7.  Overall, I am very happy running this on a production smtp gateway for our M$ Exchange Environment.  I do have a weird problem with scores and thresholds of 0.0 on about 10%-20% of mail.  It is intermittent, in that I can receive the same message thro

RE: Spamassassin not assigning scores?

2005-07-05 Thread Mike Keller
: Mike Keller Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Spamassassin not assigning scores?   "Mike Keller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/05/2005 11:29:41 AM: [snip] > Sendmail Milter Config: >   > INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`smtp-vilter', `S=unix:/var/smtp-vilter

Re: Spamassassin not assigning scores?

2005-07-05 Thread Andy Jezierski
"Mike Keller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 07/05/2005 11:29:41 AM: [snip] > Sendmail Milter Config: >   > INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`smtp-vilter', `S=unix:/var/smtp-vilter/smtp- > vilter.sock, F=T, T=C:15m;S:10m;R:10ms;E:15m')dnl >   > I have all timeouts for smtp-vilter backends (clamd, spamd) set at >

Spamassassin not assigning scores?

2005-07-05 Thread Mike Keller
First, let me apologize if this has been discussed before.  I just signed up today.   I am running Spamassassin 3.0.4 on Perl 5.8.6 on OpenBSD 3.7.  Overall, I am very happy running this on a production smtp gateway for our M$ Exchange Environment.  I do have a weird problem with scores

Re: Why do I get different scores from "spamd" than manually?

2005-06-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Greg Earle wrote on Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:24:44 -0700: > Why do I only get one SPAMCOP_URI_RBL_* hit when it's fed to "spamd" > as it comes in, yet I get 5 of them when I run it manually? Your spamd either uses different rules or gets a different message (from whatever feeds the message to it).

Re: Why do I get different scores from "spamd" than manually?

2005-06-22 Thread Matt Kettler
Greg Earle wrote: > (I'm still using 2.63 on my production mail server, btw. Please don't > shoot > me.) I'll avoid shooting you, but I will warn you that you have a DoS vulnerability. 2.64 and higher are immune to this particular DoS. 3.0.1-3.0.3 are also subject to a separate DoS that's fixe

RE: Why do I get different scores from "spamd" than manually?

2005-06-22 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Greg Earle wrote: > it finds > "Display:" and "none" just fine when it's in the body as Plain Text > ... so why doesn't it find them when they're inside HTML?) "body" rules don't look at HTML tags, they look at an html-to-text'ified version. You can look at the raw HTML by using "rawbody" r

Why do I get different scores from "spamd" than manually?

2005-06-22 Thread Greg Earle
I keep getting these Via*/Cial*/Val* "and many other" SPAMs (you know the ones, they start with "Hello, Welcome to " and have all those obfuscating "DISPLAY:" "none"s embedded in them). (I'm still using 2.63 on my production mail server, btw. Please don't shoot me.) What I don't understand

Re: Varying scores for same message ?

2005-06-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 12:57:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why does the same e-mail, when processed on the same machine, through > the same spamc, for differing users, have different values for > RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 (1,5, 0.1), RAZOR2_CHECK (0.1, 1.5), > PYZOR_CHECK (2.0, 3.5)? As fa

Re: Varying scores for same message ?

2005-06-21 Thread Loren Wilton
> pts rule name > -- > 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 > 0.1 HTML_30_40 > 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE > 1.5 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 > pts rule name > -- > 0.6 J_CHICKENPOX_72 > 0.0 HTML_30_40 > 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE > 0.1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 > 3.5 BAYES_99 > Wh

Varying scores for same message ?

2005-06-21 Thread rns . spamassassin . n . semba
c for filtering, are presented with significantly different scores, by scores which I would have assumed do NOT have any connection to Bayes or AWLs. For example, one mail might get the following list with one user: Content analysis details: (18.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule

Re: negative scores for internal mail

2005-06-14 Thread Nate Kroll
top "inter-domain" from having negative scores? Thanks. Nate

RE: negative scores for internal mail

2005-06-10 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Nate Kroll wrote: > something in spamassassin or amavis that sets a score lower since > it's from inside our own domain ALL_TRUSTED -- Matthew.van.Eerde (at) hbinc.com 805.964.4554 x902 Hispanic Business Inc./HireDiversity.com Software Engineer perl -e"map{y/a-z/l-za-k/;p

negative scores for internal mail

2005-06-10 Thread Nate Kroll
mail exchanger (where SA resides). However, the spam emails being sent to the lists addresses are being filtered but having very low negative scores, like in the -17 to -30 range. I've turned off bayesian filtering and auto learn to make sure they don't play a role. I'm just w

Re: 3.0.4 scores

2005-06-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:39:46AM +0200, wolfgang wrote: > thanks. I understand this > - was only a "labelling" problem > - has been fixed in 3.0.4. Yes. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: No, I do not know what the Schadenfreude is. Please tell me, because I'm dying to know. --

Re: 3.0.4 scores

2005-06-07 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Wednesday 08 June 2005 00:54), Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:50:59AM +0200, wolfgang wrote: > Per the Changes file, the full information is in Bugzilla bug 4367: > > http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4367 > > The short version is that the

Re: 3.0.4 scores

2005-06-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:50:59AM +0200, wolfgang wrote: > sorry, not being an native english speaker, Isimply don't understand what > this > is about, could someone re-phrase that? Per the Changes file, the full information is in Bugzilla bug 4367: http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/show_bug.cg

Re: 3.0.4 scores

2005-06-07 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Tuesday 07 June 2005 22:17), Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:13:48PM -0400, Pete O'Hara wrote: > > I ran a diff on the scores between 3.0.3 and 3.0.4 and it looks like > > RCVD_IN_SORBS_MISC, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SOCKS and RCVD_IN_SORBS_SMT

Re: 3.0.4 scores

2005-06-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:13:48PM -0400, Pete O'Hara wrote: > I ran a diff on the scores between 3.0.3 and 3.0.4 and it looks like > RCVD_IN_SORBS_MISC, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SOCKS and RCVD_IN_SORBS_SMTP scores > played some musical chairs or am I not seeing this correctly? Yes, they d

3.0.4 scores

2005-06-07 Thread Pete O'Hara
Hi, I ran a diff on the scores between 3.0.3 and 3.0.4 and it looks like RCVD_IN_SORBS_MISC, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SOCKS and RCVD_IN_SORBS_SMTP scores played some musical chairs or am I not seeing this correctly? Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED]> diff -u Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.3/rules/50_scores.cf M

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Maurice Lucas wrote: > > Now we have to wait for 3.0.4 before there will be any change in the > static score's I hate to say it, but 3.0.4 is unlikely to change any scores. Usually there's a new score set at the beginning of a major release, and one "tweak" score u

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-03 Thread Maurice Lucas
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 9:30 PM Kevin Sullivan wrote: On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: If one's wrong, they are ALL wrong. SA's rule scores are evolved based on a real-world test of a hand-sorted corpus

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Kevin Sullivan wrote: > On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: > >> If one's wrong, they are ALL wrong. >> >> SA's rule scores are evolved based on a real-world test of a >> hand-sorted corpus of fresh spam and ham. The whole scoreset is &

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-03 Thread Kevin Sullivan
On Jun 2, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Matt Kettler wrote: If one's wrong, they are ALL wrong. SA's rule scores are evolved based on a real-world test of a hand-sorted corpus of fresh spam and ham. The whole scoreset is evolved simultaneously to optimize the placement pattern. Of course,

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-02 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:41 PM 6/2/2005, Jason Haar wrote: If one's wrong, they are ALL wrong. By that do you mean that a false positive in one RBL tends to show up in them all? Probably too much sharing of data/same sources? No, I mean if one score in the ruleset is wrong, every score in the ruleset is wrong

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-02 Thread Jason Haar
ne's wrong, they are ALL wrong. By that do you mean that a false positive in one RBL tends to show up in them all? Probably too much sharing of data/same sources? SA's rule scores are evolved based on a real-world test of a hand-sorted corpus of fresh spam and ham. The whole

Re: Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-02 Thread Matt Kettler
x27;m guessing it was spam (;-) - even though it only got a score of 3/5. Obviously the default values are set that way as a way of implying "confidence" in what that means, it's just that I wonder if they need updating? I guess I'm referring to the scores in 50_scores.cf.

Are the RBL scores high enough?

2005-06-02 Thread Jason Haar
Hi there I'm finding a fair chunk of spam gets past SA-3.0.3 with scores of 3-4 out of 5 even though it got 2+ network test hits. e.g. spamd[18676]: result: . 3 - DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS,RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL scantime=4.4,size=143

Re: difference scores from 2 different methods

2005-05-31 Thread Michael Parker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > $message = > "/home/jradford/junk/1116571206-17961:1-j4K6dxup018217-046-mx2"; > > my $spamtest = Mail::SpamAssassin->new(); my $mail = > $spamtest->parse( $message ); > $message needs to contain the entire text of the msg,

Re: difference scores from 2 different methods

2005-05-31 Thread Loren Wilton
> pts rule name description > -- -- > 0.0 MISSING_DATE Missing Date: header > -2.8 ALL_TRUSTEDDid not pass through any untrusted hosts > 1.6 MISSING_SUBJECTMissing Subject: header

difference scores from 2 different methods

2005-05-31 Thread jasonml
I'm trying to figure out why I am getting 2 difference scores, and different hits from the same email. The first method is just a simple spamassassin -t < email 2nd is a small perl script invoking Mail::SpamAssassin. First result is (commandline): Content analysis details: (11.1 poi

Re: Different BAYES scores

2005-05-24 Thread Matt Kettler
> > Is there any documentation as to why the BAYES_XX scores have been > changed, and for what reason? Previously BAYES_00 was -4.9 and BAYES_99 > was 5.4, and they are now -2.5 and 3.5 respectively. Just curious as to > why. > Every major release has all the scores re-gener

Different BAYES scores

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Conn
BAYES_XX scores have been changed, and for what reason? Previously BAYES_00 was -4.9 and BAYES_99 was 5.4, and they are now -2.5 and 3.5 respectively. Just curious as to why. Thanks, Chris

Re: set all scores to 0?

2005-05-23 Thread Justin Mason
re is: default config goes in /usr/share/spamassassin, site > local in /etc/mail/spamassassin and user specific in ~/.spamassassin, so > the site administrator or user has no choice other than to modify > default config or copy all scores and set them to 0. or use -C, which will ove

Re: set all scores to 0?

2005-05-22 Thread Thomas Zehetbauer
er specific in ~/.spamassassin, so the site administrator or user has no choice other than to modify default config or copy all scores and set them to 0. Tom -- T h o m a s Z e h e t b a u e r ( TZ251 ) PGP encrypted mail preferred - KeyID 96FFCB89 finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for k

Re: randomly fluctuating scores

2005-05-22 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Raphael Clifford wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Actually, SpamAssassin 3.0.3 can't parse the first received header either, due to the @ in front of the IP. Even if you were to set trusted_networks all trusted would fire and there'd be no RBL lookups etc. Daryl I think that is exactly r

Re: randomly fluctuating scores

2005-05-22 Thread Raphael Clifford
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: Loren Wilton wrote: I am not NAT'ed so I can see no reason why it is ALL_TRUSTED I think I can: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 19588 invoked from network); 20 May 2005 22:45:07 +0100 Received: from 82-35-6-77.cable.ubr01.hari.blueyonder.co.uk (@

Re: set all scores to 0?

2005-05-21 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 03:39:28AM +0200, Thomas Zehetbauer wrote: > Is there a simple way to disable all default rules / scores? Move aside/delete the default rule files. There's no point in a config option to ignore other config options. ;) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Rock 

set all scores to 0?

2005-05-21 Thread Thomas Zehetbauer
Hi, Is there a simple way to disable all default rules / scores? I would like to group IP based blacklist as recommended in bug #4356 and more fine grained bayes and razor rules. I have now changed my scores to 100 so the default rules have less impact but I wonder if there is a better way

Re: randomly fluctuating scores

2005-05-21 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Loren Wilton wrote: I am not NAT'ed so I can see no reason why it is ALL_TRUSTED I think I can: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 19588 invoked from network); 20 May 2005 22:45:07 +0100 Received: from 82-35-6-77.cable.ubr01.hari.blueyonder.co.uk (@82.35.6.77) by secure.roshan.

Re: randomly fluctuating scores

2005-05-21 Thread Loren Wilton
I'm not sure why your score is changing, since the list of hit tests seems to be the same. Two points though: > (command "spamassassin spam.txt") I had always thought it was "spamassassin I am not NAT'ed so I can see no reason why it is ALL_TRUSTED I think I can: > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTEC

randomly fluctuating scores

2005-05-21 Thread Raphael Clifford
so I can see no reason why it is ALL_TRUSTED The second is that the score fluctuates randomly if I rerun this command despite the fact that autolearn is "unavailable" or "no" each time. For example (DCC seems to have started working since the first test but this doesn'

Re: URIDSNBL Scores

2005-05-18 Thread Stuart Johnston
raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=7 debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=7 debug: auto-learn: currently using scoreset 3, recomputing score based on scores et 1. debug: auto-learn: message score: 7, computed score for autolearn: 0 debug: auto-learn? ham=0.1, spam=12

Re: Whitelist and Blacklist default scores

2005-05-18 Thread James R
scores Jeffrey N. Miller wrote: How and where can I change the Manual Whitelist and/or Blacklist scores? score in your local.cf to override. in that case: score blacklist_to 10.0 -- Thanks, James

Re: Whitelist and Blacklist default scores

2005-05-18 Thread James R
Jeffrey N. Miller wrote: How and where can I change the Manual Whitelist and/or Blacklist scores? score in your local.cf to override. -- Thanks, James

Whitelist and Blacklist default scores

2005-05-18 Thread Jeffrey N. Miller
How and where can I change the Manual Whitelist and/or Blacklist scores?

Re: URIDNSBL Scores

2005-05-17 Thread Scott Schaffer
uri tests; score so far=7 debug: URIDNSBL: queries completed: 0 started: 0 debug: URIDNSBL: queries active: DNSBL=2 at Mon May 16 14:34:16 2005 debug: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=7 debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=7 debug: auto-learn: currently using scorese

URIDSNBL Scores

2005-05-17 Thread Scott Schaffer
uri tests; score so far=7 debug: URIDNSBL: queries completed: 0 started: 0 debug: URIDNSBL: queries active: DNSBL=2 at Mon May 16 14:34:16 2005 debug: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=7 debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=7 debug: auto-learn: currently using scorese

Re: URIDNSBL Scores

2005-05-17 Thread Scott Schaffer
uri tests; score so far=7 debug: URIDNSBL: queries completed: 0 started: 0 debug: URIDNSBL: queries active: DNSBL=2 at Mon May 16 14:34:16 2005 debug: running raw-body-text per-line regexp tests; score so far=7 debug: running full-text regexp tests; score so far=7 debug: auto-learn: currently using scorese

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