Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-11-01 Thread Peter Stavrinides
A released product needs to achieve 'true' stability in the code base, especially with regards to internals, I imagine that keeping tapestry as an Alpha/Beta allows more flexibility to modify the internals without causing waves in the community. I always have had the feeing that production

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-27 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
. Is this still realistic ? If not can you please provide a realistic date ? Petros -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-Roadmap-tf4439437.html#a12666499 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-26 Thread Alexander Lamb
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Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-25 Thread petros
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Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-25 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
of T5 is fall 2007. Is this still realistic ? If not can you please provide a realistic date ? Petros -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-Roadmap-tf4439437.html#a12666499 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-25 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:35:15 -0200, Howard Lewis Ship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, I'm going to only be working on Tapestry part time until Q1, when I finally (keep fingers crossed) will be working on Tapestry at least part of the time on salaried, not personal, time.

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-25 Thread petros
? If not can you please provide a realistic date ? Petros -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-Roadmap-tf4439437.html#a12666499 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-23 Thread Peter Stavrinides
, October 18, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap I'm not sure where incompatible releases comes in. No one releases 1.0 - 2.0 compatible releases except O/S vendors. That's typically what the large version number change means - these are incompatible. That's not a strike against Tapestry

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-23 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Tue, 23 Oct 2007 10:15:03 -0300, Peter Stavrinides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but Tapestry will die a quick death, no matter how good it is under the hood, if you slap devotees in the face again and again. Howard has stated very clearly that there will be no Tapestry 6 or, at least,

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-23 Thread kranga
Message - From: Christian Gruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap Egregious? That demands and answer and perhaps an apology. Firstly, try porting and app from Weblogic Portal 8 to Weblogic

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-23 Thread kranga
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap Ok, whatever. I give in. I'll go and use T4 and whine at Howard now. Oh wait, no I won't. I'll work on T5 and try to encourage it into as re-usable

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-23 Thread Christian Gruber
I am apparently a bit touchy this week, Kranga, et al. Please forgive. I also wasn't stating that lack of compatibility was an industry norm. I was saying, merely, that often (and demonstrably) a major version number implies a lack of complete backwards compatibility. That was all.

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-23 Thread Alex Shneyderman
On 10/23/07, Howard Lewis Ship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me repeat ... I have seven years of experience (in Tapestry) on how NOT to be backwards compatible. T5 is all about ensuring future backwards compatibility without compromising the ability to enhance the framework going forward. I

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-19 Thread kranga
. - Original Message - From: Christian Gruber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap I'm not sure where incompatible releases comes in. No one releases 1.0 - 2.0 compatible releases except O/S

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-19 Thread Christian Gruber
, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap I'm not sure where incompatible releases comes in. No one releases 1.0 - 2.0 compatible releases except O/S vendors. That's typically what the large version number change means - these are incompatible. That's not a strike against Tapestry

AW: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-19 Thread Maximilian Weißböck
Nachricht- Von: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Oktober 2007 13:00 An: Tapestry users Betreff: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap That is an incredible statement! There have been numerous discussions on this mailing list on the way T4 was made completely incompatible

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-18 Thread Alex Shneyderman
The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous was What happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus tomorrow I think the question is irrelevant. The question you should be answering: Is the current base usable enough to push through on the project?. A

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-18 Thread kranga
Message - From: Alex Shneyderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:22 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous was What happens to our multi-million dollar project

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-18 Thread petros
, 2007 3:22 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous was What happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus tomorrow I think the question is irrelevant. The question you should be answering: Is the current

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-18 Thread petros
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Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-18 Thread Christian Gruber
the competitive advantage is not clear cut. - Original Message - From: Alex Shneyderman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tapestry users users@tapestry.apache.org Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:22 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-18 Thread Christian Gruber
, October 18, 2007 3:22 AM Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap The one question I could not answer without looking ridiculous was What happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus tomorrow I think the question is irrelevant. The question you should be answering

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-18 Thread Angelo Chen
to market even factoring in learning-curve has improved over JSF or Struts 2. Christian. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-Roadmap-tf4439437.html#a13277462 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-17 Thread petros
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Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-17 Thread Daniel Jue
What happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus tomorrow Yes, please don't do that. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-17 Thread Yunhua Sang
2. Tapestry is an one man show. .. Actually, this is one advantage of Tapestry: guaranteed quality. On 10/17/07, Daniel Jue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus tomorrow Yes, please don't do that.

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-17 Thread Michael Kleen
You seriously recommending a framework in a alpha status for a multi-million dollar project ? Don't get me wrong, i like tapestry and i'am using version 4.1 in 2 projects, but i would never use alphas/betas framework without good documentation/books in production. michael petros wrote: I am

RE: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-17 Thread Mark Stang
Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap You seriously recommending a framework in a alpha status for a multi-million dollar project ? Don't get me wrong, i like tapestry and i'am using version 4.1 in 2 projects, but i would never use alphas/betas framework without good documentation/books

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-17 Thread andyhot
2007. Is this still realistic ? If not can you please provide a realistic date ? Petros -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-Roadmap-tf4439437.html#a12666499 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-17 Thread kranga
: Tapestry 5 Roadmap 2. Tapestry is an one man show. .. Actually, this is one advantage of Tapestry: guaranteed quality. On 10/17/07, Daniel Jue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happens to our multi-million dollar project if Howard is hit by a bus tomorrow Yes, please don't do

RE: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-10-17 Thread Jean-Philippe Steinmetz
-Original Message- From: kranga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:29 PM To: Tapestry users Subject: Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap Actually, this is one advantage of Tapestry: guaranteed quality. That flies in the face of the philosophy of open source

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-09-16 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
that the final release of T5 is fall 2007. Is this still realistic ? If not can you please provide a realistic date ? Petros -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-Roadmap-tf4439437.html#a12666499 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-09-16 Thread Fernando Padilla
. Is this still realistic ? If not can you please provide a realistic date ? Petros -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-Roadmap-tf4439437.html#a12666499 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Tapestry 5 Roadmap

2007-09-13 Thread petros
The tapestry 5 website says that the final release of T5 is fall 2007. Is this still realistic ? If not can you please provide a realistic date ? Petros -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-5-Roadmap-tf4439437.html#a12666499 Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list