Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-24 Thread George Christman
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Chris Mylonas wrote: > Tapestry Comedy Hour... > > > I hate the way he uses Thiago like a slave. > >> > > > > Don't let my wife know about that! She called dibs on my slavery! :D > > > > > > On a more sardonic note, is there a jumpstart site for Wicket? > As much

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-24 Thread Chris Mylonas
Tapestry Comedy Hour... I hate the way he uses Thiago like a slave. >> > > Don't let my wife know about that! She called dibs on my slavery! :D > > On a more sardonic note, is there a jumpstart site for Wicket? As much as this slave talk is arousing, I must return to something more Monday-mornin

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-22 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 17:28:22 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: What I know, for sure, is that Howard is a coward. He has a double agenda. He doesn't practise what he preaches. He preaches Tapestry to his cult members here but practises Wicket on his clients' projects. And admit that too in an

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-22 Thread George Christman
t; On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Peter Hvass > > wrote: > > > > > > > Wooow! What is this inane crap? :D This is hilarious in general on > all > > > > sides! > > > > > > > > > > > > The best bit was discovering this wiki p

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-22 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
ous in general on all > > > sides! > > > > > > > > > The best bit was discovering this wiki page; > > > http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls > > > > > > > > > Have been giggling with a colleague over thi

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-22 Thread Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira
gt; The best bit was discovering this wiki page; > > http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls > > > > > > Have been giggling with a colleague over this today. :) > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "ICE Ernesto Arteaga Zavala&q

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-21 Thread Muhammad Gelbana
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:03:04 AM > Subject: Re: Web frameworks > > Emmanuel, > > Then have sex with Wicket and let us work with the framework we > prefer... > > > 2013/11/20 Emmanuel Sowah > > > And let me clarify some more about live class

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-21 Thread Peter Hvass
teaga Zavala" To: "Tapestry users" Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:03:04 AM Subject: Re: Web frameworks Emmanuel, Then have sex with Wicket and let us work with the framework we prefer... 2013/11/20 Emmanuel Sowah > And let me clarify some more about live class relo

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread ICE Ernesto Arteaga Zavala
nuel Sowah > > wrote: > > > > Don't listen to Thiago, he is just blowing hot air. Tapestry is no more > >> relevant, as can be seen in the article: > >> http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision- > >> makers-guide-to-java-web-frame

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
So I think this is the best place to enlighten people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Jens Breitenstein < > > > > > mailingl...@j-b-s.de > > > > > > >wrote: > > >

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
> http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision- >> makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ >> As you may see, Tapestry is not mentioned anywhere in that article. >> > > A single article shouldn't be the single decision point of any decision. > Not to mention

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Boris Horvat
gt; > > > > > > > > > Emmanuel, > > > > > > > > > > > > please stop your spam. This is a mailing list for developers even > > > > stupid > > > > > > ones like us using tapestry. > > > > >

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
d a "I > > > > dislike > > > > > it too" button or something else and we all can continue with more > > > > serious > > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > > > Jens > > > > > > > >

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Boris Horvat
ly used on hobby projects at home. As we're > > > speaking > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> now, > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Howard is happily coding Wicket on a client's project.Leave this > > cult > > > >>>>&g

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
Emmanuel Sowah: > > > > > > Alexander, > > >> > > >> I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Tapestry cannot be revived. Tapestry > > has > > >> been in coma for too long. As you may know, people who have been in > coma > > >

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Boris Horvat
gt; > >> I'm sorry to disappoint you, but Tapestry cannot be revived. Tapestry > has > >> been in coma for too long. As you may know, people who have been in coma > >> for a very long time cannot be revived. They ultimately die, as Tapestry > >> is >

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
blowing hot air. Tapestry is no more >> relevant, as can be seen in the article: >> http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision- >> makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ >> As you may see, Tapestry is not mentioned anywhere in that article. >> > > A singl

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Lenny Primak
pestry is no more >> relevant, as can be seen in the article: >> http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ >> As you may see, Tapestry is not mentioned anywhere in that article. > > A single article shouldn't be the single dec

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
Sowah > wrote: > > Don't listen to Thiago, he is just blowing hot air. Tapestry is no more >> relevant, as can be seen in the article: >> http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision- >> makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ >> As you may see, Tapestry

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
; slowly dying now. Check the article found at >> http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision- >> makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/. >> Choose one of those frameworks mentioned there and you'll be fine. >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On Wed, Nov

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:04:30 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Don't listen to Thiago, he is just blowing hot air. Tapestry is no more relevant, as can be seen in the article: http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ As you may see, Tapest

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Jens Breitenstein
ng now. Check the article found at http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/. Choose one of those frameworks mentioned there and you'll be fine. Cheers On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexander Sommer < alexander.som...@gmail.com> wro

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
Really? Well, it's your problem then. I can't force you of course. Good luck though. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Alexander Sommer < alexander.som...@gmail.com> wrote: > no, i am just eager on updates! ;-) > > > > > 2013/11/20 Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo > > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:15:04

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Alexander Sommer
no, i am just eager on updates! ;-) 2013/11/20 Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:15:04 -0200, Alexander Sommer < > alexander.som...@gmail.com> wrote: > > tapestry would and will easily revive >> > > Are you saying it is dead? > > > if 5.4. would come out with full jQuery

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
gt; > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > > > Guys, > > > > Don't listen to Thiago, he is just blowing hot air. Tapestry is no more > > relevant, as can be seen in the article: > > > > > http://zeroturnaround.com/reb

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/. Choose one of those frameworks mentioned there and you'll be fine. Cheers On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Alexander Sommer < alexander.som...@gmail.com> wrote: > tapestry would and will easily revive

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Jon Williams
en in the article: > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > . > As you may see, Tapestry is not mentioned anywhere in that article. > Tapestry is just dying, no matter what Thiago would say. Again, even Howard > doesn't use Tap

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
Guys, Don't listen to Thiago, he is just blowing hot air. Tapestry is no more relevant, as can be seen in the article: http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ . As you may see, Tapestry is not mentioned anywhere in that article. Tapestry is

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:28:20 -0200, Alexander Sommer wrote: the only thing i am waiting for are better & easier documentations and better mobile support. Mobile support is basically HTML and CSS with a little bit of JavaScript, so I'd like to know what do you think Tapestry could do in th

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Az Madujibeya
Well said Thiago :-) Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo wrote: >On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:52:09 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah >wrote: > >> You Tapestry aficionados are just some radicals who are blind to see the >> reality. > >Says the guys who loved to post about Wicket in a Tape

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Alexander Sommer
i also need to add that my (it) knowledge is based on the help on tapestry. I dont *love* server-side programming but if i need to do it, i love to do it with tapestry. the only thing i am waiting for are better & easier documentations and better mobile support. 2013/11/20 Thiago H de Paula Figu

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:15:04 -0200, Alexander Sommer wrote: tapestry would and will easily revive Are you saying it is dead? if 5.4. would come out with full jQuery (and jQuery mobile) support ;-) Tapestry 5.4, which is in alpha right now but already quite stable, already comes with j

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:52:09 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: You Tapestry aficionados are just some radicals who are blind to see the reality. Says the guys who loved to post about Wicket in a Tapestry mailing list . . . :D Even Mr. Ship doesn't use Tapestry anymore in his projects. [ci

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Alexander Sommer
taining thousands of lines of evil > >> old incomprehensible JSP, has seen the promised land (Tapestry) and > feels > >> bad about it. (Like the guy who never gets invited to parties). > >>> - Original Message - > >>> From: Lance Java > &g

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Lenny Primak
gt;> >> >> >> On Nov 18, 2013, at 7:09 PM, John wrote: >> >>> Haha. Maybe it's someone who's maintaining thousands of lines of evil >> old incomprehensible JSP, has seen the promised land (Tapestry) and feels >> bad about it. (Like th

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-20 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
P, has seen the promised land (Tapestry) and feels > bad about it. (Like the guy who never gets invited to parties). > > - Original Message - > > From: Lance Java > > To: Tapestry users > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:38 PM > > Subject: Re: Web

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-19 Thread Norman Franke
> From: Lance Java > To: Tapestry users > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:38 PM > Subject: Re: Web frameworks > > > I'm not sure why... but for some reason a random user comes on this > tapestry list about once a year spreading FUD with a message si

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-18 Thread John
nt: Monday, November 18, 2013 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Web frameworks I'm not sure why... but for some reason a random user comes on this tapestry list about once a year spreading FUD with a message similar to this one. I've never really understood why... Please ignore this thread

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-18 Thread Lance Java
t; There is a great report that compares web frameworks and can be found here: > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > > To my surprise, Tapestry didn't make it to the list. This makes me very > nervous to even consider

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-18 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 17:49:38 -0200, Dmitry Gusev wrote: I think this is something that may need to be improved in T5. Like, adding new files to service interfaces, changing method signatures, adding/removing annotations to service methods/page/component classes, etc. For pages, componen

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-18 Thread Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 17:12:48 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: Hi guys, Hi! Long time, no see! :P There is a great report that compares web frameworks and can be found here: http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ To my surprise

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-18 Thread Dmitry Gusev
he same about any other framework that you probably like, >> and the answer would be the same. > > > > http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/#comment-1110981704 > > Tapestry is here for more than 10 years now, and as f

Re: Web frameworks

2013-11-18 Thread Dmitry Gusev
/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/#comment-1110981704 Tapestry is here for more than 10 years now, and as far as I know it doesn't going to disappear in the nearest future. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Emmanuel Sowah wrote: > Hi guys, > > There is a great r

Web frameworks

2013-11-18 Thread Emmanuel Sowah
Hi guys, There is a great report that compares web frameworks and can be found here: http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision-makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ To my surprise, Tapestry didn't make it to the list. This makes me very nervous to even consider Tapestry fo

Re: Quick results of my month-long 'battle of the web frameworks' research

2011-02-15 Thread Lenny Primak
Nope. Never heard of Vaadin On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Yohan Yudanara wrote: > Hi, > > My reply is OOT :). > But, I'm just curious, were you evaluating Vaadin for "GWT like" ? What is > your opinion about Vaadin? > > I love using Tapestry for page based web application and I love using Vaadi

Re: Quick results of my month-long 'battle of the web frameworks' research

2011-02-15 Thread Yohan Yudanara
Hi, My reply is OOT :). But, I'm just curious, were you evaluating Vaadin for "GWT like" ? What is your opinion about Vaadin? I love using Tapestry for page based web application and I love using Vaadin when building full Ajax web-application. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:27 AM, Lenny Primak wrot

Quick results of my month-long 'battle of the web frameworks' research

2011-02-15 Thread Lenny Primak
If anyone finds it useful, or a useful place to put it --- So here is a quick summary of what I found out in my lengthy research: It went down to 5 candidates, JSF, GWT, RIFE, Tapestry & Grails. I had a couple of must-have criteria: - A web designer has to be able to read/write the app via

Re: web site showing chart on web frameworks usage

2009-11-19 Thread Kalle Korhonen
Luberti wrote: > Someone posted in the past a web site with charts showing how much some > web frameworks are used around the world. > Can someone help me finding that link (maybe more than one link) > > TIA > > -- > == > dott. Iv

web site showing chart on web frameworks usage

2009-11-19 Thread Ivano Luberti
Someone posted in the past a web site with charts showing how much some web frameworks are used around the world. Can someone help me finding that link (maybe more than one link) TIA -- == dott. Ivano Mario Luberti Archimede Informatica societa

Re: Browser feature to better support web frameworks

2009-05-25 Thread Kalle Korhonen
Tapestry-conversations supports multiple simultaneous conversations with the same page on different tabs: http://docs.codehaus.org/display/TRAILS/Conversations+in+Trails. Kalle On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:57 AM, Sebastian Hennebrueder wrote: > Hello, > > an idea came across my brain and I would l

Browser feature to better support web frameworks

2009-05-22 Thread Sebastian Hennebrueder
Hello, an idea came across my brain and I would like to invite you to give some feedback on this. Basically it is a browser feature which is missing. In most applications we cannot use the session because multiple tabs in the browser would influence each other. I illustrated the idea here.