[Videolib] No more DVDs?

Dear Videolib friends As many of you know Icarus Films has been helping to build, and currently has over 300 titles on, Docuseek2, to provide colleges and universities streaming access to our collection over the internet. Yes, we continue to invest in producing and releasing DVDs of the same

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Dear Jonathan, We just ordered a DVD from your company last week. Recently, there has been discussion on this topic in this listserv. I can speak for my university only. We develop our collection in both formats. We do have some streaming and we also have a large collection of DVDs. Students

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We would never buy a title that is only available through streaming unless it came as some sort of package deal through the consortium we belong to. For instance, we do subscribe to the Films on Demand titles. In a similar way, we would never purchase an e-book unless it was some sort of a

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Dear Farhad Thank you = I appreciate the problem with having to license a big collection - that makes perfect sense. What if the title was available to stream individually, by itself, for the same, or lower price, than the DVD? Jonathan From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu

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Can you consider making dvds on demand (with the understanding that the turnaround may be longer than it is now)? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Jonathan Miller > wrote: Dear Videolib friends As many of you know

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I think it is very important to have physical copies. Rights change , contracts expire. I was literally discussing this last weekend with Nancy Gerstman of Zeitgeist who said they were not going to do a physical release of their new film COURT. I suggested that they make a DVD-R available without

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Well, speaking just for my institution-- as a person who devotes a significant amount of time to securing permission to make DVD copies and digital "preservation" copies of video content made freely available on the web-- I would be OK (and I say that with wincing, pained hesitation) with a

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Yes, there is the out of print/distribution issue. Another issue is preservation and interlibrary loan. With current streaming or download licensing, use is limited to your users for as long as the distributor has the right to distribute only. Several of us were discussing the importance of

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Michael! We agree! And actually, it's an idea I hadn't considered, so thank you. My sadness would be the bonus features. During production work, I get to discover so many cool things. For our current one, Losing Ground, I found the negative for the cinematographer's lost 7-minute student film

[Videolib] Streaming Media Collection Policy talk @ Charleston

Greetings everyone, In light of Jonathan Miller's query to the listserv and the many very interesting responses, I wanted to put in a shameless plug for a paper session I and my colleagues will be participating in this Thursday at Charleston. While it is largely about streaming media

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If there is no physical copy, then we lose certainty in being able to take advantage of exceptions to copyright like fair use, replacement/preservation (under section 108), etc., since digital copies that are not in physical form would always be licensed. Michael Brewer | Librarian | Head,

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This is an excellent discussion. Thank you all. Now I have a brief question and a comment. I am an independent filmmaker who also instructs other independents in DIY distribution, and have done well selling DVDs on my own--Worldcat lists the ownership of one of my films at over 250. Now that many

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For me, the only equivalent for a DVD purchase is a streaming video with in-perpetuity rights that we can host locally. We have many VHS tapes and DVDs from companies like Carousel, Films Inc., and LAVA that have gone out of business - but we can still use their titles because we own a tangible

Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

I honestly would be very, very disappointed if DVDs were discontinued by Icarus! I know that, as a small residential college, we are different than big universities and/or those with lots of distance ed and online courses. Still, I also know that we are not unique and that there are many

Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?

Hi Jonathan, The very issue of DVDs versus streamed video titles is an upcoming topic for a meeting here at Bobst Library, NYU, specifically with regard to the proposal to subscribe to Docuseek2. I am in favor of continuing to purchase DVDs, even if the titles are also provided as streaming

Re: [Videolib] Charleston session

Ill be there! let's grab a cup of coffee and have a good gab fest in Charleston! deg farrelly > > Greetings everyone, > > In light of Jonathan Miller's query to the listserv and the many very > interesting responses, I wanted to put in a shameless plug for a paper > session I and my

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We would also pass on the purchase. Not a fan of these limited streaming license periods. If I’m going to spend $250-350 on a video, I want a physical copy of it. We do have a subscription to Alexander Street Video, which is great, but that’s it on the streaming for us so far. Rick

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This is a very interesting discussion. I think it depends on the kind of library you are and the type of collecting you are doing. Our collection has very much been developed over the years in response to the needs of the teaching faculty. Most items have had some use, because most items were

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Speaking for myself, I live with what I can get. Not always happy about it but the vicissitudes of the marketplace kinda dictate it. If the price is too high or the terms too restrictive, we go without. On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Miller wrote: > My

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Suddenly I'm much less charming-- If you were to only offer a 1 or 3 year license, I would refuse to do business. If this were a faculty request, I would tell them to try to get their department to pay for it. Gisele Gisèle Tanasse Head, Media Resources Center 150 Moffitt Library #6000

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One factor that I haven't yet seen in this discussion is the continued existence of the digital divide. Working at an institution that has a high population of first generation college students, I'm well aware that our patrons don't always have robust enough home internet to watch streaming

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If we could not get a DVD? Honestly? I’d either encourage the use of a different film (though I’d hate it!) or ask if they can chip in departmental funds to pay for a portion of the cost. THEN I’d also encourage the (sure to be cranky and grumbling) faculty members to go advocate for a

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Another issue is that this seems all directed (understandably) and non fiction "educational media" For the most part feature films ( including many documentaries) are only not available with lifetime streaming and there is zero chance major studios would ever do it and in my mind little chance

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For UConn also, the only equivalent of a DVD purchase is streaming video with perpetual rights, or at the very least, life of file format. Chris’ comments on how DVDs are used is classes is the same here. The cost of licensing a stream for short terms is just too prohibitive. It limits the

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With our current policy we would pass on the purchase. We just wouldn’t buy it. Maybe, if it was really cheap we would but it’s also the labor cost of maintaining a teaching collection that one has to keep checking to see if the titles are still active is just too high, as well. Jo Ann Jo Ann

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Ditto to what Chris has stated. Mo From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:08 PM To: Videolib Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs? For me, the only

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Wow. Thanks to everyone for the great and interesting responses. I will read all the emails over again and try and digest it tonight and if I come up with something half way interesting I will give you some feedback tomorrow. Thanks again! Jonathan From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu

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​I concur with Jo Ann and Chris. Perpetuity for streaming or life of file format. DVDs for those titles we can't get streaming. Regards, Jane Hutchison William Paterson University From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu

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My question though is: What if you can’t get the DVD? And if we only offer a 1 or 3 year license (Say for the sake of argument), and professor wants to use a film – what do you do? JM From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of

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No – you’re always charming! JM From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Gisele Genevieve Tanasse Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:38 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs? Suddenly I'm much less

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And I forgot to add that I know individual titles are available in streaming format. But we never buy a title for a short period of time such as one year or three years. All individual titles in streaming are licensed for a short time only. Farhad Moshiri, MLS Post-Masters Advanced Study

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Not if they are sold (licensed) for a short time. In addition, for AV librarians it is very difficult to manage access to streaming video title by title in a variety of platforms. We mostly prefer managing large databases. Farhad Moshiri, MLS Post-Masters Advanced Study Certificate Audiovisual

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Jonathan, I echo what Farhad has said in regards to our buying power. We purchase streaming rights for our Distance Education program on a limited basis, and rarely purchase streaming for other individual titles. We do not currently have a streaming platform subscription but will be venturing

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Hi Jonathan, We have been fortunate to be able to subscribe to Docuseek2 and a number of other streaming platforms. I am definitely moving in the direction you are talking about. If I can possibly get a streaming license (subscription, one-off, 3 years, 5 years, perpetual ...) I will do it

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" ... so soon as it steps forth as a commodity, it is changed into something transcendent ..." A serious question and certainly something to think about. We are still purchasing DVDs because we don't yet have the streaming use to warrant a rental-type arrangement, which is essentially

Re: [Videolib] Volga Volga

Thanks, Dennis! Sounds like Volga Volga is a nyet from a practical standpoint. I did checkout the Linked in page for the vendor streaming on Amazon, though. Kinonation https://www.linkedin.com/company/kinonation Thanks for the list’s help! Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Media, Film Studies,

Re: [Videolib] Volga Volga

Hi Brian, Thanks for the reminder about the Mosfilm Channel! Unfortunately, age confirmation via sign-in is now required. I think this is something new. Regards, Laura Laura Jenemann Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian George Mason University 703-993-7593 ljene...@gmu.edu From: