Another issue is that this seems all directed (understandably) and non
fiction "educational media" For the most part feature films ( including
many documentaries) are only not available with lifetime streaming and
there is zero chance major studios would ever do it and in my mind little
chance many
One factor that I haven't yet seen in this discussion is the continued
existence of the digital divide.
Working at an institution that has a high population of first generation
college students, I'm well aware that our patrons don't always have robust
enough home internet to watch streaming videos
If we could not get a DVD? Honestly? I’d either encourage the use of a
different film (though I’d hate it!) or ask if they can chip in departmental
funds to pay for a portion of the cost. THEN I’d also encourage the (sure to
be cranky and grumbling) faculty members to go advocate for a stream
This is a very interesting discussion. I think it depends on the kind of
library you are and the type of collecting you are doing.
Our collection has very much been developed over the years in response to the
needs of the teaching faculty. Most items have had some use, because most items
were b
We would also pass on the purchase. Not a fan of these limited streaming
license periods. If I’m going to spend $250-350 on a video, I want a physical
copy of it. We do have a subscription to Alexander Street Video, which is
great, but that’s it on the streaming for us so far.
Rick
[Descrip
No – you’re always charming!
JM
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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Gisele Genevieve
Tanasse
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:38 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?
Suddenly I'm much less ch
Suddenly I'm much less charming-- If you were to only offer a 1 or 3 year
license, I would refuse to do business.
If this were a faculty request, I would tell them to try to get their
department to pay for it.
Gisele
Gisèle Tanasse
Head, Media Resources Center
150 Moffitt Library #6000
Univers
Speaking for myself, I live with what I can get. Not always happy about it
but the vicissitudes of the marketplace kinda dictate it. If the price is
too high or the terms too restrictive, we go without.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Jonathan Miller
wrote:
> My question though is: What if you c
With our current policy we would pass on the purchase. We just wouldn’t buy it.
Maybe, if it was really cheap we would but it’s also the labor cost of
maintaining a teaching collection that one has to keep checking to see if the
titles are still active is just too high, as well.
Jo Ann
Jo Ann
My question though is: What if you can’t get the DVD?
And if we only offer a 1 or 3 year license (Say for the sake of argument), and
professor wants to use a film – what do you do?
JM
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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Hutchiso
I concur with Jo Ann and Chris. Perpetuity for streaming or life of file
format. DVDs for those titles we can't get streaming.
Regards, Jane Hutchison
William Paterson University
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
on behalf of Reynolds, Jo Ann
Sent
Wow. Thanks to everyone for the great and interesting responses.
I will read all the emails over again and try and digest it tonight and if I
come up with something half way interesting I will give you some feedback
tomorrow.
Thanks again!
Jonathan
From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu
For UConn also, the only equivalent of a DVD purchase is streaming video with
perpetual rights, or at the very least, life of file format. Chris’ comments on
how DVDs are used is classes is the same here.
The cost of licensing a stream for short terms is just too prohibitive. It
limits the amou
Ditto to what Chris has stated.
Mo
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[mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 12:08 PM
To: Videolib
Subject: Re: [Videolib] No more DVDs?
For me, the only equivalent for a DVD purchase is a str
Hi Jonathan,
The very issue of DVDs versus streamed video titles is an upcoming topic
for a meeting here at Bobst Library, NYU, specifically with regard to the
proposal to subscribe to Docuseek2. I am in favor of continuing to
purchase DVDs, even if the titles are also provided as streaming files
This is an excellent discussion. Thank you all. Now I have a brief question
and a comment.
I am an independent filmmaker who also instructs other independents in DIY
distribution, and have done well selling DVDs on my own--Worldcat lists the
ownership of one of my films at over 250. Now that many
Michael! We agree! And actually, it's an idea I hadn't considered, so thank
you.
My sadness would be the bonus features. During production work, I get to
discover so many cool things. For our current one, Losing Ground, I found
the negative for the cinematographer's lost 7-minute student film from
If there is no physical copy, then we lose certainty in being able to take
advantage of exceptions to copyright like fair use, replacement/preservation
(under section 108), etc., since digital copies that are not in physical form
would always be licensed.
Michael Brewer | Librarian | Head, Rese
I would be fine with no more DVDs if streaming was an option. I try to avoid
buying DVDs as I consider them to be nearly useless and prone to damage. We
have 4 dispersed campuses, lots of online classes, and lots of adjunct faculty
who cannot easily collect physical media. And faculty who want t
Well, speaking just for my institution-- as a person who devotes a
significant amount of time to securing permission to make DVD copies and
digital "preservation" copies of video content made freely available on the
web-- I would be OK (and I say that with wincing, pained hesitation) with a
digital
Yes, there is the out of print/distribution issue.
Another issue is preservation and interlibrary loan. With current
streaming or download licensing, use is limited to your users for as long
as the distributor has the right to distribute only.
Several of us were discussing the importance of purc
I honestly would be very, very disappointed if DVDs were discontinued by
Icarus! I know that, as a small residential college, we are different than big
universities and/or those with lots of distance ed and online courses. Still,
I also know that we are not unique and that there are many small
Ill be there!
let's grab a cup of coffee and have a good gab fest in Charleston!
deg farrelly
>
> Greetings everyone,
>
> In light of Jonathan Miller's query to the listserv and the many very
> interesting responses, I wanted to put in a shameless plug for a paper
> session I and my colleague
I think it is very important to have physical copies. Rights change ,
contracts expire. I was literally discussing this last weekend with Nancy
Gerstman of Zeitgeist who said they were not going to do a physical release
of their new film COURT. I suggested that they make a DVD-R available
without c
Greetings everyone,
In light of Jonathan Miller's query to the listserv and the many very
interesting responses, I wanted to put in a shameless plug for a paper session
I and my colleagues will be participating in this Thursday at Charleston. While
it is largely about streaming media collection
For me, the only equivalent for a DVD purchase is a streaming video with
in-perpetuity rights that we can host locally. We have many VHS tapes and
DVDs from companies like Carousel, Films Inc., and LAVA that have gone out
of business - but we can still use their titles because we own a tangible
ver
" ... so soon as it steps forth as a commodity, it is changed into something
transcendent ..."
A serious question and certainly something to think about.
We are still purchasing DVDs because we don't yet have the streaming use to
warrant a rental-type arrangement, which is essentially what
Primary Research Group (www.PrimaryResearch.com) issurveying academic libraries
of all nations about their policies in supplyingcommercially available
films/video and other film and video resources for usein class and for
scholarship and other educational uses. The study focuses on the emergin
Hi Jonathan,
We have been fortunate to be able to subscribe to Docuseek2 and a number of
other streaming platforms. I am definitely moving in the direction you are
talking about. If I can possibly get a streaming license (subscription,
one-off, 3 years, 5 years, perpetual ...) I will do it inst
Jonathan,
I echo what Farhad has said in regards to our buying power. We purchase
streaming rights for our Distance Education program on a limited basis, and
rarely purchase streaming for other individual titles. We do not currently
have a streaming platform subscription but will be venturing into
Not if they are sold (licensed) for a short time. In addition, for AV
librarians it is very difficult to manage access to streaming video title by
title in a variety of platforms. We mostly prefer managing large databases.
Farhad Moshiri, MLS
Post-Masters Advanced Study Certificate
Audiovisual
And I forgot to add that I know individual titles are available in streaming
format. But we never buy a title for a short period of time such as one year or
three years. All individual titles in streaming are licensed for a short time
only.
Farhad Moshiri, MLS
Post-Masters Advanced Study Certi
Can you consider making dvds on demand (with the understanding that the
turnaround may be longer than it is now)?
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 3, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Jonathan Miller
mailto:jmil...@icarusfilms.com>> wrote:
Dear Videolib friends
As many of you know Icarus Films has been helping t
We would never buy a title that is only available through streaming
unless it came as some sort of package deal through the consortium we
belong to. For instance, we do subscribe to the Films on Demand titles.
In a similar way, we would never purchase an e-book unless it was some
sort of a packag
Dear Farhad
Thank you = I appreciate the problem with having to license a big collection -
that makes perfect sense. What if the title was available to stream
individually, by itself, for the same, or lower price, than the DVD?
Jonathan
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[mailto:video
Dear Jonathan,
We just ordered a DVD from your company last week. Recently, there has been
discussion on this topic in this listserv. I can speak for my university only.
We develop our collection in both formats. We do have some streaming and we
also have a large collection of DVDs. Students wa
Dear Videolib friends
As many of you know Icarus Films has been helping to build, and currently has
over 300 titles on, Docuseek2, to provide colleges and universities streaming
access to our collection over the internet.
Yes, we continue to invest in producing and releasing DVDs of the same ti
Thanks, Dennis! Sounds like Volga Volga is a nyet from a practical standpoint.
I did checkout the Linked in page for the vendor streaming on Amazon, though.
Kinonation
https://www.linkedin.com/company/kinonation
Thanks for the list’s help!
Regards,
Laura
Laura Jenemann
Media, Film Studies, an
Hi Brian,
Thanks for the reminder about the Mosfilm Channel! Unfortunately, age
confirmation via sign-in is now required. I think this is something new.
Regards,
Laura
Laura Jenemann
Media, Film Studies, and Dance Librarian
George Mason University
703-993-7593
ljene...@gmu.edu
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