[VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start?

2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Thanks for your thoughts, Monica. Eugene > -Original Message- > From: Monica Hall [mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:45 PM > To: Eugene C. Braig IV > Cc: Vihuelalist > Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? >

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2011-02-03 Thread Monica Hall
. Quite an interesting topic. Monica - Original Message - From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" To: "'Vihuelalist'" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:18 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? I like this thesis. Also, the music of these compo

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2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Monica Hall > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:11 PM > To: Eugene C. Braig IV > Cc: Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? > > I have just been reading part of the introduction to Alejandro Ver

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2011-02-03 Thread Monica Hall
-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Roman Turovsky Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:04 PM To: Alexander Batov Cc: Vihuelalist Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? 5 course/string guitars survived into the 19th century in Ukraine: http://polyhymnion.org/images/bandurka.jpg !

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2011-02-03 Thread Alexander Batov
They've been around in Russia too. There are two original 19th century 5-string bandurkas in the St-Petersburg collection; shallow-bodied, fairly small in size (the one on your link looks like a re-construction to me). By the way, I've never heard about 5-course bandurkas ... Also, I'm not sur

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2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
nder Batov > Cc: Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? > > 5 course/string guitars survived into the 19th century in Ukraine: > http://polyhymnion.org/images/bandurka.jpg ! > > RT > > > > - Original Message - > From: "

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2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
uth.edu] On > Behalf Of Alexander Batov > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:00 PM > Cc: Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? > > I don't think he ever did (the music just doesn't go lower than the open > A string) but I suppose there is a p

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2011-02-03 Thread Roman Turovsky
5 course/string guitars survived into the 19th century in Ukraine: http://polyhymnion.org/images/bandurka.jpg ! RT - Original Message - From: "Alexander Batov" Cc: "Vihuelalist" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar,

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2011-02-03 Thread Alexander Batov
I don't think he ever did (the music just doesn't go lower than the open A string) but I suppose there is a presumption that it was most likely for a 5-string (i.e. single strung) guitar. 5-string guitars did certainly exist at the time. Also, some original 5-course guitars were converted to 5-

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2011-02-03 Thread Monica Hall
- Original Message - From: "Eugene C. Braig IV" To: "'Vihuelalist'" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:45 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dar

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2011-02-03 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
> -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Chris Despopoulos > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:48 AM > To: Harlan Glotzer; Monica Hall > Cc: Vihuelalist > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where

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2011-02-03 Thread Chris Despopoulos
it opens up musical possibilities. cud __ From: Monica Hall To: Peter Kooiman Cc: Vihuelalist Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 5:32:29 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? Dear Everyone

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2011-02-03 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? Hello Franz, > but some quite odd with melodylines suddenly jumping an octave up or down. So > I suspected that these were not written for re-entrant tuning, or only the upper string > being re-entrant, but to

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2011-02-03 Thread Monica Hall
sner Cc: Vihuelalist ; Chris Despopoulos ; Harlan Glotzer ; Monica Hall Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? Hello Franz, but some quite odd with melodylines suddenly jumping an octave up or down. So I suspected that these wer

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2011-02-03 Thread Peter Kooiman
Hello Franz, > but some quite odd with melodylines suddenly jumping an octave up or down. So > I suspected that these were not written for re-entrant tuning, or only the upper string > being re-entrant, but to take it like this seems also not convincing either. I find that m

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2011-02-02 Thread Franz Mechsner
works. I'm just an amateur here. It's all great fun, and I hope you take it in that way! cud __ From: Harlan Glotzer To: Monica Hall Cc: Chris Despopoulos ; Vihuelalist

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2011-02-02 Thread Chris Despopoulos
#x27;m just an amateur here. It's all great fun, and I hope you take it in that way! cud __ From: Harlan Glotzer To: Monica Hall Cc: Chris Despopoulos ; Vihuelalist Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 9:01:1

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2011-02-02 Thread Harlan Glotzer
t; Cc: "Vihuelalist" > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:37 AM > Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? > > >> I definitely don't want to spark anything. I'm just looking for any >> obvious prohibitions to using a fully re-entran

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2011-02-01 Thread Monica Hall
That's it. do what you think works best. You have my blessing... Monica - Original Message - From: "Chris Despopoulos" To: "Monica Hall" Cc: "Vihuelalist" Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:37 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to

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2011-02-01 Thread Chris Despopoulos
ld go with what feels good. That makes me feel young again! cud __ From: Monica Hall To: Chris Despopoulos Cc: Vihuelalist Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011 3:25:16 AM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar,

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2011-02-01 Thread Monica Hall
on this topic. (But I have already done so). Monica - Original Message - From: [1]Chris Despopoulos To: [2]Monica Hall Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? Ha! I found this in my SPAM folde

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2011-01-21 Thread Monica Hall
Yes - I actually have a photocopy of it but it is nice to have the digital reference. Best Monica - Original Message - From: "A. J. Ness" To: "Monica Hall" ; "Vihuelalist" Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guit

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2011-01-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Yes, gauge your frets as on other gut strung plucked instruments: it enables the instrument to be set as fine as possible ie with strings as close to the fingerboard as possible but without excessive adjacent fret rattles. Use the 'French' (sometimes called the 'Corbetta') tuning w

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2011-01-20 Thread A. J. Ness
Did you see the guitar tablature Toshiaki linked us to? > > BSB Mus.ms.1522: Alfabeto/mixed guitar tablature (Bavarian provenance): "Tabulaturbuch fuer Guitarre" [ex-libris:] H. M. Adelaide di Sauoia, Ellettria di Bauaria http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/0005/bsb00050861/images/ The

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2011-01-20 Thread Monica Hall
constructed or fretted so you could try different methods as you wish. Hope you are not thoroughly confused by now. Monica - Original Message - From: "Chris Despopoulos" To: "Harlan Glotzer" ; Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:09 PM Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Baro

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2011-01-20 Thread Monica Hall
Despopoulos" Cc: "Monica Hall" ; "Vihuelalist" Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? Thank you both for you speedy and detailed replies! I guess I am wondering what the most universally useful stringing would

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2011-01-20 Thread Chris Despopoulos
y kind of perk up when they see a baroque one. __ From: Harlan Glotzer To: Chris Despopoulos Cc: Monica Hall ; Vihuelalist Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 5:11:42 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? Thank you both for you speedy and detaile

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2011-01-20 Thread Monica Hall
Vihuelalist Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 3:51:30 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? Well - it is a serious mis-nomer to call the re-entrant tuning "Spanish". The Spanish would turn in their graves. What dear old Sanz says is In stringin

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2011-01-20 Thread Harlan Glotzer
___ > > From: Monica Hall > To: Chris Despopoulos > Cc: Vihuelalist > Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 3:51:30 PM > Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to start? > Well - it is a serious mis-nomer t

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2011-01-20 Thread blair
Harlan, I have built and re-fretted a bunch of period instruments (romantic and renaissance guitars, and lutes) and it is likely you will need a few gauges of gut for the frets (gamut strings is the easiest place to get them). If the action is low the first three/four frets will need to be st

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2011-01-20 Thread Chris Despopoulos
up the history... Thanks for the clarification. cud __ From: Monica Hall To: Chris Despopoulos Cc: Vihuelalist Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 3:51:30 PM Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Baroque guitar, where to

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2011-01-20 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Hi Harlan... Some comments from an amateur... I believe I have seen some references to graduating the fret gut as you move up the neck, but I can't remember where. Nonetheless, my guitar uses the same size gut for all the frets, and it was made by a very reputable person who not on

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2011-01-20 Thread Monica Hall
Welcome! I can't really answer the first part of your question as I am not an instrument maker. In order to answer the second part we need to know what you mean by the "Spanish" tuning as this is not a recognised definition of any particlar tuning/stringing. And also which part of the Spanis