Hi - a newcomer to this group - I am restoring an SE30 which still works but
has a seized drive. Have found one recently and will be installing it soon. I
am concerned with notions of possible breakdown of capacitors etc. on board
some help to overcome this would be handy! I would like to
Just saved an SE30 from the landfill. I turned it on but got nothing.
I put in a System 6.0.7 StartUp Disk and got to the desktop. Looks
like this was a Print Server, and of course I have no admin key.
Presently I don't know much more about this old Mac - like RAM or Hard
Drive. How can I l
For old software nowhere beats Macintoshgarden.org.
Other listers have a better outlook on capacitor change outs. Good luck.
> Subject: SE30
> From: plw...@yahoo.com
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 08:53:10 +1000
> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
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> Hi - a newcomer to this grou
On Aug 30, 5:53 pm, Peter Williamson wrote:
> Hi - a newcomer to this group - I am restoring an SE30 which still works but
> has a seized drive. Have found one recently and will be installing it soon. I
> am concerned with notions of possible breakdown of capacitors etc. on board
&g
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Keith
On Thursday, 30 August 2012 23:53:10 UTC+1, Peter Williamson wrote:
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> Hi - a newcomer to this group - I am restoring an SE30 which still works
> but has a seized drive. Have found one recently and will be installing it
> soon. I am concerned with notions of possible
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> With the machine switched off, and left for any charge to dissipate:
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On Feb 14, 10:17 am, Richie Young wrote:
> That's actually not true in this case; the SE/30 has a bleeding resistor.
> That's not to say you still should not be careful, of course.
I strongly recommend against discharging the CRT.
The **only** time I've been shocked by a CRT was while I was
di
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Jeff Walther wrote:
> The **only** time I've been shocked by a CRT was while I was
> discharging it. All the times I didn't bother, things were fine.
I was thrown across the room by the coil on an operating SE/30 about
20 years ago. I hadn't though that I 'd lo
I've taken a few CTR's off. I ended up not discharging, just unplugging it
waiting a couple of hours and turning the power switch on and of afterwards.
I am not sure if it was the right thing to do after reading a lot of
arguments the do not discharge camp convinced me.
Abel
On Friday, February
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Abel Ortiz Monasterio
wrote:
> I am not sure if it was the right thing to do after reading a lot of
> arguments the do not discharge camp convinced me.
I'm in the "do not stick hand inside running machine to bend the eject
tab on the floppy" camp.
Which is how it
Hello all, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this.
I'm currently bidding on an SE30 on eBay with the intention of gutting
it and replacing it with a shiny mac mini and a 9" colour lcd screen.
I don't have a great deal of experience with these types of things,
but fixing my R
wrote:
> Just saved an SE30 from the landfill. I turned it on but got nothing.
> I put in a System 6.0.7 StartUp Disk and got to the desktop. Looks
> like this was a Print Server, and of course I have no admin key.
>
> Presently I don't know much more about this old Mac - like RAM o
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Abel Ortiz Monasterio
wrote:
> You can go up to 7.5 with out much work, check how much ram you have if you
> don't have enough it will run a bit slow. You can go up to 8 but that gets
> complicated you have to do a bunch of upgrades and some hacks.
Actually, the
He is right, I got mine at 128MB we no trouble at all, just using Mode 32
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Raymond Ingles wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Abel Ortiz Monasterio
> wrote:
> > You can go up to 7.5 with out much work, check how much ram you have if
> you
> > don't have eno
You should probably just stick with system 7. It'll run well on it,
and it works with lots of old stuff like MacPaint and 1980s era games.
Plus, I don't think you need to upgrade the memory on an SE30 to run
it. If you really want to go farther, you could try 8, but it won't be
as f
Hi,
I have System 7 on disk. When I put System 6 start-up disk into the SE30. It
booted up; ejected the disk; then loaded a print server. I need to get beyond
that point. Can anyone make a suggestion?
Best Wishes,
Bob
On Dec 21, 2009, at 10:17 AM, 128k wrote:
> You should probably just st
Hi!
On 12/21/09, Robert wrote:
> I have System 7 on disk. When I put System 6 start-up disk into the SE30. It
> booted up; ejected the disk; then loaded a print server. I need to get beyond
> that point. Can anyone make a suggestion?
Does the SE30 boot WITHOUT booting from a fl
Hi all,
Thanks for the help! I got it to load System 7.1 and found out I have
4MB RAM and an 80MB hard drive. I have an old version of ClarisWorks
so I will load that and see where the SE30 takes me. It has a finicky
floppy drive. It does not quite complete taking in a disk. You have to
line about 1/8 inch wide running from top left to lower right so I am
> assuming those pixels are failing or gone.
>
> Anyone got an idea for cleaning the floppy drive other than opening up
> the SE30?
You can bend the tab that the paperclip pushes. Only bend slightly!
It's bee
ube that can stay
around after the machine is turned off. It's not the 30,000 volts of a color
tube but at a tenth of that it can still shake you up.
>
>Anyone got an idea for cleaning the floppy drive other than opening up
>the SE30?
>
There are head-cleaning disks in capti
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Doug McNutt wrote:
> My personal tool is a torx tip made for use with a 1/4 inch hex socket
> handle. I silver soldered it onto a piece of steel rod that was once a plain
> old screwdriver.
Such torx tips will actually wedge very firmly into the case of a Bic
p
I have a security set, and I can open those ones with an extender I
got at Home Depot. It's really not that difficult to find an extension
that will fit. (I actually got that extension to pull the processors
out of a G5 tower - but it works equally as well with the compact Macs.)
-E
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Elliott Price wrote:
> I have a security set, and I can open those ones with an extender I
> got at Home Depot. It's really not that difficult to find an extension
> that will fit. (I actually got that extension to pull the processors
> out of a G5 tower - but it w
I've just got an SE30 Mac, however, I need software to make it work?
I can provide blank discs to copy…
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You could do that with an SE; the results would be the same, but an SE
*should* be less expensive.
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>
> Hello all, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this.
>
> I'm currently bidding on an SE30
might buy instead,
because first of all, they are also usually cheaper, and second of all, they
don't have anything in them that you would have to gut out of them.
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Subject: Re: SE30 mods
To: vintage-macs@googlegroup
Hello,
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> I'm currently bidding on an SE30 on eBay with the
> intention of gutting it and replacing it with a shiny mac mini and a 9"
> colour lcd screen.
I have to ask: why an SE/30 specifically? Is it simply beca
In short, people on this list generally do not like to see the
especially desirable classic Macs gutted and so destroyed. On the
other hand, a case or a machine definitely beyond redemption is fair
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On Mar 18, 8:13 am, "jacksonjh...@googlemail.com"
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> Hello all, sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this.
>
> I'm currently bidding on an SE30 on eBay with
r the scsi hard drive is blank , dead or both. I have a few
small drives I could put an OS on for you and send but not even worth the
effort until you repair the unit. For more help head over to 68kmla for info.
Good luck.
> From: ito...@gmail.com
> Subject: Discs for SE30
> Date:
Capacitors are usually the #1 discussion item, but simply cleaning the
motherboard provides HUGE rewards, a spider web is an electronics "jumper
cable", you'd be amazed how just one strand can temporarity short out the whole
shootin match...
Jaber
Seattle USA
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That is a true statement.
Oh and I guess I should drop my name and location from now on. Sorry bout that
all.
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Rainier, Or 97048
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Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:34:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Discs for SE30
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Capacitors are usually the #1
Hello,
--- On Sun, 2/24/13, Jason Johnson wrote:
> Oh and I guess I should drop my name and location from now
> on. Sorry bout that all.
If it's any help, listing your name and location isn't a requirement on this
list. :) Sure you can give them if you want, but it's not necessary.
(On LEM
onsidering how small a floppy is!), that's what I did.
On Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Yian wrote:
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> I've just got an SE30 Mac, however, I need software to make it work?
>
> I can provide blank discs to copy…
>
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>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2013 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Yian wrote:
>>
>> I've just got an SE30 Mac, however,
Yeah, there was a download I found, I think on 68kM (I'll have to look it up
once I get my new laptop), I make the disk from 19 files, then burned it. It
never booted my system. If someone can get it to work, please let me know.
In the end, it was technically a heck of a lot quicker and easier t
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Rick Karrer wrote:
> Yeah, there was a download I found, I think on 68kM (I'll have to look it up
> once I get my new laptop), I make the disk from 19 files, then burned it. It
> never booted my system. If someone can get it to work, please let me know.
>
> In th
But if the hard drive is failed, which is probably why it doesn't have one now.
Disks are not going to help you.
> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:36:04 +
> Subject: Re: Discs for SE30
> From: shouldbeq...@gmail.com
> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
>
> On Wed, Feb 27
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Jason Johnson wrote:
> But if the hard drive is failed, which is probably why it doesn't have one
> now. Disks are not going to help you.
>
I think we are at cross purposes.
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> You can download 7.5.3 and the upgrade to 7.5.5.directly
> from Apple,
> quicker than any floppies being sent by post
>
> http://support.apple.com/kb/TA48312?viewlocale=en_US#system
>
> I think I used an emulator to stitch the disks together.,
> this
We have vintage Mac SE 30.Need interface.Thanks.
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Hi all! I finally got a compact mac back in my collection! (I used to
have about 30 compact macs, but gave them all away after a flood did it's
worst on most of them. :(
I now have an SE/30, imo the prettiest of all of the compacts... It worked
okay when I got it, no sound though. I put a d
On 20 Jul 2013, at 14:20:37 PDT, Louise James wrote:
We have vintage Mac SE 30.Need interface.Thanks.
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ady. Then we can give him
the bad news on how much a pain in the neck it is to get or make disks without
another old make on a network.
Jason
Rainier, Or
> From: kadagg...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Interface for MAC SE30
> Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2013 06:21:13 -0700
> To: vintage
the neck it is to get or make
> disks without another old make on a network.
>
> Jason
> Rainier, Or
>
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> > Subject: Re: Interface for MAC SE30
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&
e other stuff.
Jeff
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To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: Interface for MAC SE30
Great Post Jason :)
- Charles
yeah those pram battery explosions can really be disappointing.
http://68kmla.org/forums/viewtopic.
Check to see if the drive is spinning?
Jeff
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To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 1:19 PM
Subject: SE30 SCSI Repair Questions
Hi all! I finally got a compact mac back in my collection! (I used to have
Yes. The drive is running. It does it's startup seek, same as if it were
unplugged or when it was plugged into the SE motherboard. It takes it a few
moments then it shows the ? Mac icon.
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Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: SE30 SCSI Repair Questions
Yes. The drive is running. It does it's startup seek, same as if it were
unplugged or when it was plugged into the SE motherboard. It t
tware-wise, AND format the drive with MHDD.
>
> This opens the door for the La CieSilverlining to take charge and make a
> working drive Mac-accessible, IF it's not toast.
>
> Jeff
>
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did a lot of refurbising, this was never the case.
Jeff
From: Scott Lawrence
To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
Cc: J.S. Garrison
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: SE30 SCSI Repair Questions
Well, like I said, I know the drive, scsi cab
rums/download/file.php?id=5440&mode=view
SE/30 has issues with leaking cap goo, causing via and trace rot.
so i would check lines going too the scsi chip before you assume its the
scsi I/C is bad.
SE30 Schematics.zip
Charles
MacCaps.com
On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:10 AM, J.S. Garrison wrote
On Friday, November 8, 2013 3:19:37 PM UTC-6, Scott Lawrence wrote:
>
>
> SCSI Drive does not function either on the internal or external chain
> connectors with appropriate terminaton
> (doesn't work without termination either... i had to try it. ;)
>
> SCSI probe complains that the chain is
At 7:44 -0800 11/11/13, Jeff Walther wrote:
>On Friday, November 8, 2013 3:19:37 PM UTC-6, Scott Lawrence wrote:
>
>SCSI Drive does not function either on the internal or external chain
>connectors with appropriate terminaton
>(doesn't work without termination either... i had to try it. ;)
>
>SCSI
Fuses check out okay. I get 4.x volts on the termination power line out to
the drive (tested with and without a drive on there.)
I didn't do a full cleaning of the board. I will look into that when my
tantalums arrive (I put in new electrolytics, but decided that was a bad
idea.)
I did clean a
>
> SE/30 has issues with leaking cap goo, causing via and trace rot.
> so i would check lines going too the scsi chip before you assume its the
> scsi I/C is bad.
>
> SE30
> Schematics.zip<http://maccaps.com/MacCAPS.COM/Schematics_Bonus_Info_files/SE30%20Schematics.zip>
>
nload/file.php?id=5438&mode=view
> http://68kmla.org/forums/download/file.php?id=5439&mode=view
> http://68kmla.org/forums/download/file.php?id=5440&mode=view
>
> SE/30 has issues with leaking cap goo, causing via and trace rot.
> so i would check lines going to
=view
>> http://68kmla.org/forums/download/file.php?id=5440&mode=view
>>
>> SE/30 has issues with leaking cap goo, causing via and trace rot.
>> so i would check lines going too the scsi chip before you assume its the
>> scsi I/C is bad.
>>
>> SE30
>
as seen here.
>>> and then your scsi will probably work.
>>>
>>> http://68kmla.org/forums/download/file.php?id=5438&mode=view
>>> http://68kmla.org/forums/download/file.php?id=5439&mode=view
>>> http://68kmla.org/forums/download/file.php?
UTC-5, Notgoing Totellyou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> check continuity between these 2 traces
>>>> if you don't get any, then run patch wires as seen here.
>>>> and then your scsi will probably work.
>>>>
>>>> http://68kmla.o
On 11/9/13 7:10 AM, J.S. Garrison wrote:
That's why I mentioned going with either another, newer Mac that takes a
SCSI drive, or the Pentium II or III PC with the advantage of being able
to use the bootable CD of MHDD and the Adaptec SCSI (50 pin) Card. I
have also used an external SCSI CD ROM ca
On 3/15/2014 12:00 AM, Charles Lenington wrote:
Does anyone remember if there was a problem using newer drives in the
SE/30? From OP description he is using a drive w/ jumpers. I believe
that the SE/30 had the resistor strips/chips originally .
No problem. No need to use interleave other than
Hi all, thanks for having me in your group! I have a few old SE's at
home and one of them has an issue with floppy disks. When I insert a
HD floppy (even a system disk from apple) I get the "this disk is
unreadable" dialogue. I have attached an external floppy drive but get
the same message. Now I
I have two MacSE's for sale and would entertain offers. Have
keyboards and some original software. If interested, send me an email
and I'll give specifics.
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DebB wrote:
> Hi all, thanks for having me in your group! I have a few old SE's at
> home and one of them has an issue with floppy disks. When I insert a
> HD floppy (even a system disk from apple) I get the "this disk is
> unreadable" dialogue. I have attached an external floppy drive but get
> t
DebB wrote:
> Hi all, thanks for having me in your group! I have a few old SE's at
> home and one of them has an issue with floppy disks. When I insert a
> HD floppy (even a system disk from apple) I get the "this disk is
> unreadable" dialogue. I have attached an external floppy drive but get
> t
I aquired a stack of Old macs, unsure what may happen to them, all drives
etc are working, let me know, If your near by you can come get some.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 12:40 AM, DebB wrote:
>
> Hi all, thanks for having me in your group! I have a few old SE's at
> home and one of them has an issu
> I aquired a stack of Old macs, unsure what may happen to them, all
> drives etc are working, let me know, If your near by you can come
> get some.
Can you provide a list of what you have?
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DebB wrote:
> Hi all, thanks for having me in your group! I have a few old SE's at
> home and one of them has an issue with floppy disks. When I insert a
> HD floppy (even a system disk from apple) I get the "this disk is
> unreadable" dialogue. I have attached an external floppy drive but get
> t
The FDHD and SE/30 both should have a 1.44Mb drive, but if it's a
basic SE it would have an 800Mb drive. Deb, you might check as to
which model it is, whether an SE, SE FDHD or SE/30. It should say
either on the back, or the front. The SE has no internal HD, and is a
68020, whereas the FDH
Thanks everyone... the particular machine is an SE. I tried an 800k
disk and it works fine!
On Jul 27, 4:40 am, Cyrus Griffin wrote:
> The FDHD and SE/30 both should have a 1.44Mb drive, but if it's a
> basic SE it would have an 800Mb drive. Deb, you might check as to
> which model it is, wh
Hey!
I'm in the UK, and I've had this old se30 knocking around under my bed for a
few years now, when I was a student I had the time to play with it... But alas
I no longer have the time or the inclination :-(
I upgraded the ram, got a network card, and tried unsuccessfully to
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Hi Robert,
You did say that they are SE/30 models?
Are they in good/great shape? Discoloration, scuffs, scrapes, cracks, etc.?
You said that you also have some original software? What title(s)? Full
boxes/instructions, etc.?
Have they had the capacitors changed out on the boards, yet? Any o
Lloyd,
I have had them in storage for many years and have not plugged them in for
quite some time. I believe they are in good working order and havenot had
any alterations to them since they were purchased new. no capacitors
changed on the boards that I know of. I believe they have 128 ram but
I am also interested once Lloyd's questions are answerd Robert.
Looking forward to your reply and your safe return to the States.
Thanks.
Troy
On May 4, 6:24 pm, Robert Crawford wrote:
> Lloyd,
>
> I have had them in storage for many years and have not plugged them in for
> quite some time. I b
Hi Dan, where are you. I repair Apple Macs & am developing the vintage &
obsolete side of my business. I could give your SE30 a good home & full service
in my vintage mac area. Regards, Keith
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> On 8 Jan 2015, at 20:38, Dan wrote:
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Hi Dan. I've been looking for an SE30 to use in a vintage Mac project for a
while, would be interested in giving her a home. I'm in Kent, where are you?
Happy to discuss postage if you're far flung!
Thanks, Steve
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> On 8 Jan 2015, at 20:38, Dan wrote:
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being
said, it's only fair that Keith get first choice, after all, he replied to
your offer before I have.
Kindest regards
Alex Santos
On Thursday, 8 January 2015 21:38:52 UTC+1, Dan wrote:
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> Hey!
>
> I'm in the UK, and I've had this old se30 knocking around under my
Hi guys, thanx for the interest, it is indeed first come first served basis!
I have messaged Keith about possibility of paying postage etc, if that
doesn't work out then next on the list :-)
Dan,
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i know of a young gentleman there in the UK
he is 17 years old just starting out.
he saved up his whole summers of lawn mowing just so he could do a run of hand
made Terminated SCA to 50 pin adaptors
and offer then to the vintage mac community...
I know he has been looking for an se/30 for like
Hi Dan
Thanks for the offer but just read about Max and suggest you supply to him.
Regards
Keith
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